Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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This is not 100%, but just my understanding. The T-mobile version shouldn't have the radio frequencies , or even the same technology (gsm vs. CDMA) as the verizon S4. Dont think there is any amount of software modifications that an allow it either.
No, you cannot use it. It lacks the hardware radio.
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Damn. Didn't think so but was hoping so!
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It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
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It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
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Its possible but not probable because VZW is still using CDMA so is Sprint and I do not think the TMo/ATT/GE version have the baseband nor the radios to support CDMA. Once LTE band 4 is enabled and VoLTE is prevalent then the phone can be seemless across carriers.
I know it work the other way around
I put a prepaid att sim card in my ZVW s4 and it worked! As the vzw s4 comes stock as a world phone and can be used on gsm networks. Without unlocking. So if you unlock your TM s4 you should be able to pop in a vzw 4g sim and be OK?
I don't think you will have 4G though if you got a buddy with a vzw 4g phone grab his sim and try it after you unlock.
Att - gsm
T-Mobile - gsm
Sprint - cdma
Verizon - cdma / gsm 4g lte
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Samstealth7 said:
I know it work the other way around
I put a prepaid att sim card in my ZVW s4 and it worked! As the vzw s4 comes stock as a world phone and can be used on gsm networks. Without unlocking. So if you unlock your TM s4 you should be able to pop in a vzw 4g sim and be OK?
I don't think you will have 4G though if you got a buddy with a vzw 4g phone grab his sim and try it after you unlock.
Att - gsm
T-Mobile - gsm
Sprint - cdma
Verizon - cdma / gsm 4g lte
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Again the Tmo/ATT/GE do not support the LTE bands on VZW/SPRINT nor do they support CDMA/EVDO.
The VZW variant should work on any GSM network with a sim swap and APN switch but LTE will be limited or not available.
Right so he won't get 4g/4g lte
But should be OK on 3g after the apn settings are configured I believe. Hope this helps
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Is there any way to use an unlocked tmobile s4 on verizon???? Can you flash a certain modem to make it work?
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You CAN, but that does mean you'll want to.
T-Mobile utilizes 2 spectrums for HSPA+ and LTE. 1700/2100 for both. Without access to both spectrums the device will not receive data. Best you'll get is EDGE, which is only from interoperability with AT&T.
There are not interoperability standards for 4G LTE so you couldn't use this on AT&T LTE either.
So yes you can do it, but you won't like the service.
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Rebel908 said:
You CAN, but that does mean you'll want to.
T-Mobile utilizes 2 spectrums for HSPA+ and LTE. 1700/2100 for both. Without access to both spectrums the device will not receive data. Best you'll get is EDGE, which is only from interoperability with AT&T.
There are not interoperability standards for 4G LTE so you couldn't use this on AT&T LTE either.
So yes you can do it, but you won't like the service.
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You cannot use the T-Mobile S4 on Verizon, period. It doesn't support CDMA or LTE band 13 which are the only bands that Verizon currently offers service.
Now if you had a Verizon S4 you could use that on T-Mobile since it supports HSPA on the PCS band and LTE on band 4 which are both used by T-Mobile for 3G and 4G but that isn't what the original poster asked about.
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It's possible. %100. I'm going to start working on it now that I got my VZ S4 from work...(I have tmo for my personal phone). Please....PLEASE....PLEASE!!! let's not have anyone else say "it's not possible". I'm begging you. Before you spout off about this that or the other thing...read up on the phone. Learn about frequencies, modulation, SDRs...etc.
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The question is will a t-mobile S4 work on VZW. The answer is no, it will not. Not unless that MDM9215 spontaneously changes into an MDM9615.
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Can you guys please read the data sheets on the APQ8064T, MDM9215M, and WTR1605L...then come back and tell us how it won't work.
Edit: Hint....the 9215 is what is inside the Nexus 4....which I also own....running LTE on T-Mobile...
Yes, but can you use that Nexus 4 on any cdma carrier?
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Yes, but can you use that Nexus 4 on any cdma carrier?
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With the right hacks...yes. It's possible man.
This article (from QComm) states that the 9615 is capable of CDMA
This link shows very little difference between the 9615 and the 9215...
Again, I implore you all to be diligent when it comes to exploring new ideas...don't just dismiss something as not possible. There's no such thing.
Edit: Just incase the second link to the PDF doesn't work or is REALLY slow...I've attached the document to the post. Also, I took the time to spoon feed someone the info in another post linked here ....
Edit 2: Nevermind, the PDF is 2.5MB...won't let me attach it.
You may want to do a bit more research on the MDM9215. It does NOT support CDMA. It is only used in UMTS/GSM + LTE devices. CDMA support is what differentiates the MDM9615 from its sibling. This was explicitly noted by Qualcomm at UPLINQ 2012 as part of their QCMB API presentation.
So once again I will reiterate that a T-Mobile S4 lacks the necessary hardware to operate on Big Red. Furthermore, it is a simple matter to note that the MDM9215's commercial availability is limited to UMTS/GSM + LTE devices.
No amount of mad hacking skillz can overcome that hardware limitation. It would be necessary to replace the MDM9215 with a MDM9615, which is far from being a simple plug and play operation.
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Crap..my retarded ass read it as VZ S4 on Tmo...not the other way around...in that case, you're right...my apologies...I've been researching getting the VZ S4 working on Tmo....since that's what I'm going to be doing.
Again...my apologies.
I have the Verizon galaxy S4 running Loki'd Hyperdrive rom and I'm on T-mobile, but I only get 2G (AKA edge and too slow for mms) how can I get T-Mobiles HSPA+?
I was using AT&T's AIRVOICE and got HSPA+ but always got redirected tot he GoPhone account empty screen. so HSPA+ worked but AT&T wasn't fond of my s4 being verizon branded. So I switched to T-Mobile and I HATE Edge. but it's better than nothing.
You can't get a device on Verizon that was not part of the Verizon database to work.
Look at the new Nexus 7, even with the correct frequencies, people are having a hell of a time trying to get a device with the right LTE bands to activate.
If it's not sold as a Verizon device, sell it and buy something else.
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Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Both white and black are the same, yes you will get 3G and 4G coverage on at&t since 4G is hspa and at&t supports hspa.
No this phone doesn't have lte and just a heads up, though you will get 4G, it might not be as fast t-mobile from what I've heard, their HSPA isn't that fast but still pretty decent.
I appreciate that.
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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It has the 1900 band, at&t's HSPA network runs on that band.
What about 3g?
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What about 3g?
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HSPA is 3G, HSPA+ is 4G, the iPhone has both HSPA and HSPA+, which works on the iPhone's 1900 band, get where I'm going with this?
I'm using my Amaze on at&t through straight talk and it's 4g.
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Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
Dark Ellipse said:
Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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Two people made this claim, doubt they would both be lying.
Dark Ellipse said:
Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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ST does support 4G but right now my tower is under a full noon load.
12 noon speed is awful but 12 midnight speed is great.
At&t doesn't keep up on maintenance with these towers.
Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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I didnt know that, wow ATT sucks
That's hot I didn't now we could do all these things to a device. I had idea until my friend mentioned it sweet.
Biohazard0289 said:
I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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DO NOT CALL to ask..... as they won't know the answer, and might put a note on your account to force a data plan(well, you could call and ask on someone else's phone without giving your account number)
the primary way (so far that I've seen) that AT&T detects your smartphone is via IMEI. Secondary might be you using >100GB/month, connecting to their 4G APN settings, going to a store for help and letting the customer rep see that you have a smartphone
does AT&T have your IMEI? probably not.... AT&T has IMEI of all of their smartphones, so you can't use an AT&T smartphone. You can try using an (unlocked) t-mobile phone, but might not support the right 3G/4G bands that AT&T use. You can try international phones, canda phones(from Bell, Telus...). WARNING>>>. AT&T might have your IMEI because the manufacture gave them the IMEI(See Google Nexus phones), inference from branded phones that they carry(eg Phone is sold/branded by AT&T and t-mobile... AT&T gets a list of their phone IMEIs that might include t-mobile's IMEIs), screwups(Samsung Note overseas was misentered as a tablet on AT&T's network, white i9100 Galaxy SII is misentered as a Blackberry on AT&T's network)
The link at the end of this post gives a guide to what phones are 100% compatible(3G/4G on 850/1900) on AT&T's network.
According to this, the T-Mobile Amaze 4G is compatible with AT&T 3G/4G, but I have some confusion on the 850/1900 mhz band for the 3G/4G data, trying to sort it out(last few posts on that thread)
Guide to what phones are 100% compatible with AT&T's network
anyways, quick update
got a T-mobile Amaze 4G to play with
(with unlocked bootloader, S-Off, Super CID and SIM unlock, all available on this forum), works on AT&T 4G (HSDPA)
speeds right now ~ 1000 kbits/s up/down, hard to test because my location is spotty
Here is my issue. I am currently in the US. I might teach ESL overseas in Korea in January. I am not sure which phone to get. Will the USA one work over in Korea? Will thew international one work in the US?
It could work but Sprint has the radios locked.
Would developers be able to get them unlocked?
Buy international set
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Would developers be able to get them unlocked?
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They propably can but the intl one supports more radio frequensies and is assembled to work worldwide so I'd buy it in any case rather than us version.
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The international one works in the US flawless... just not on all carriers... it works the best on AT&T if you want to use it in the US and get 4G(HSPA+)
You can use it on T-Mobile but you will have to settle for EDGE(2G)
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It would work on most carriers which uses the international frequencies.
Not just AT&T for US. Works with Rogers, Fido, Telus, and Bell Mobility in Canada for instance.
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The international one works in the US flawless... just not on all carriers... it works the best on AT&T if you want to use it in the US and get 4G(HSPA+)
You can use it on T-Mobile but you will have to settle for EDGE(2G)
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Just a side note, HSPA+ is not 4G. It's still 3G. LTE/WiMax is 4G.
so which companies will it work with 4g/lte? Will it not work with Sprint? Anyone know any deals for the international version?
Sprint (and Verizon) is on an old CDMA network while the majority of the world is on GSM, you know, operating with a SIM card. If you're set on travelling, it's better to get any of the GSM-variant, that way, you can just pop in any sim card from any major carriers all over the world.
I currently have a photon which has a sim card slot in it. So the Galaxy s international wont work on Sprint? Damn I want to keep my SERO plan lol. So where can I get an international verison from? Also would I have to pay full price for it?
Does the photon has an active sim card in it? I'm assuming no. I've never used a dual-mode phone before (nor am I familiar with how they operate on different networks), so I dont know the ins-and-outs on how to get it activate for a GSM carrier.
Damn, now i have a headache just trying to figure out how it works to have an intl GSM phone on a network that is predominantly CDMA whom happens to offer a dual-mode phone on their network
Call sprint problem solved
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Chaos Residue said:
Just a side note, HSPA+ is not 4G. It's still 3G. LTE/WiMax is 4G.
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In 2010 the International Telecommunications Union redefined 4G to include HSPA+.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374564,00.asp
thegameksk said:
I currently have a photon which has a sim card slot in it. So the Galaxy s international wont work on Sprint? Damn I want to keep my SERO plan lol. So where can I get an international verison from? Also would I have to pay full price for it?
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The SIM in the Photon is just for roaming. Sprint does not use SIM cards - even their LTE phones have them embedded rather than user-accessible.
As the Sprint Galaxy S III is not a 'global' phone - i.e. does not have both GSM/UMTS and CDMA radios - do not purchase it if you have any intention of using it outside the US. CDMA is no longer a global technology.
Confuses me a little that people spend so much on devices without checking what networks they support. Ho-hum.
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I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
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Sorry, don't know where to post this..?
I'm told one of the few Verizon/cdma carrier neutral smartphones is incredible II.. (should work on sprint, at&t, tmobile and various resellers) I'm just wondering if you guys know any more that preferably have more modern hardware.. ?? I prefer plug n' play type stuff.. and ability to use with MVNO's and android
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Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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Well, CDMA to CDMA will be a little work, is also a legal grey area. But there have been many posts saying that this phone (Droid DNA) works on domestic gsm carriers as well.
People report getting HSPA+ speeds on AT&T and TMo(where refarmed to 1900MHz). You'll only get edge speeds on TMo where they haven't refarmed to 1900MHz yet. So any MVNO based on those carriers should work just fine. You'll obviously have to fiddle with APN settings to get data and MMS to work, but it shouldn't be too hard.
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If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
Oh, I don't think the Incredible II will work on domestic GSM carriers, only European/foreign. At least I haven't ever heard of it working. You might want to verify that if you go that route. My parents are in Europe right now, however, and using their Incredible II's successfully, including APN changes for MMS.
Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
~Hoovie
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Hi,
As stated, CDMA to CDMA takes a little bit of work. But carriers in the Philly area, like Cricket, allow you to bring some Sprint or Verizon devices over, with a reprogramming fee. I have heard of people reprogramming CDMA devices for Virgin Mobile.
The Droid DNA is a good choice.
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
What carrier are you waiting to use ?
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Specifically as I stated.. Verizon and tmobile are the top 2 I wish to use.. I wish to use the resellers page plus/lycamobile
A person who uses page plus and has used lycamobile assures me that the incredible II will swap with ease back n' forth after unlocked sim, (I think he means Verizon incredible 2) I would just like to find some newer hardware like the bionic.. or something made in late 2011 or early 2012.. but the information on bionic is it requires custom roms or certain configurations to run on either platform (aka it's not like you can just do a sim swap)
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If you take a DNA to a GSM based carrier, you may need to root/reflash with a ROM that is customized for GSM in order to get the APN settings to stick for MMS to work. The phone is SIM unlocked out of the box, I made a phone call using my DNA after popping in a T-Mobile card, without any changes at all.
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This. Stupid stock Verizon ROM uses an APN whitelist, the MMS apn type is not included since it is not needed on Verizon's network.
I recommend the NOS M7 ROM or the NOS Google Play Edition ROM, both have a GSM base and work much better on GSM carriers.
The DNA may be fully SIM unlocked out of the box, unfortunately; the stock OS ruins some of the fun.
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thehoovie said:
Hi,
As far as GSM goes, I have used a Verizon s3 on t mobile, rooted with custom APN. The radio's are different and the VZW s3 on t mobile only gets HSPA+ . I would just get a GSM version.
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Isn't the GSM version ALSO going to get HSPA+?
You'd need a version that supports T-Mobile's LTE frequencies to do better than HSPA+
I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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I get 1900mhz hspap on an att SIM with my droid Dna on a gsm Rom everything works great
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What speeds?
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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I know the Moto X has more bands for Tmobile's version vs. AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the LG G2 as well
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
this doesn't answer the OP's question, but, i have a sim unlocked att G2 and i can get 4G and 4G LTE service with my T-Mobile sim/account. coverage is not as good as at&t in my location.
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Hmm. So you have Tmo plan and the ATT model didn't get you any LTE at all?
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I have AT&T and im using the t-mobile G2
I get 100% LTE everywhere I go. no problems whatsoever. havnt seen my phone display anything lower than 4G (and 4G LTE)
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leony74 said:
I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Not sure of the truth to that. Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t all support LTE band 4 which is AWS 1700. It might be more likely a carrier lock that prevents you from getting full coverage?
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From Wikipedia:
D800ZNFD800AT&T850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801ZNFD801T-mobile850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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mrbungle999 said:
Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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I'm in AZ and actually purchased LG on day one that AT&T sold it. They did not want to sell out-right so I got a prepaid service and told them I would not activate until next month...Manager looked at me like I was a terrorist. Went outside and on my then GS4 went to an unlocker site and SIM UNLOCKED LG in about 25 mins. I tried two different APNs and one seems to be best as I have LTE mostly all over the valley!
SUMMERY
-Got phone before anyone else on TMObile
-Got phone at least $60+ cheaper W/taxes
-I can use the WIFI free hotspots of AT&T, always on the road...
-At work my LTE is 27-36mb down compared to 12on att co-workers, and Verizons 17MB on a different co-worker!
-At home my signal is a tiny bit spotty, oddly is only in my room ge 1-2 bars H+
kyler13 said:
LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Oh I totally forgot about the wifi thing...is that an ATT service that works with our ATT plan, or will it know I'm using a Tmo phone and not let me connect? Not a big deal since I have 2 GB and always come under each month but itd be nice to have.
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ergoautumn said:
Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Well, since t-mobile's 3g/umts is predominantly on the AWS 1700 band, utilizing a t-mobile SIM on the at&t model will result in sparse coverage for 3g, short of roaming. I understand t-mobile has built out some of their 3g on 1900 as well so that would work for you. Based off of frequency support, I would say the t-mobile version is the better one to unlock and potentially use between at&t and t-mobile networks. LTE band 5 support doesn't buy you anything domestically.
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Thank you everyone for your input . Guess Tmo it is.
Though...One wonders what their software support is like...I read that since they do wifi calling they're updates have to go through extra approval above and beyond the othercarriers because they have to deal with the FCC?
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Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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Here in the Bahamas we don't have LTE yet, but we're planning on covering the same spectrum as AT&T, bands as well.
no AT&T LTE on T-mo G2
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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x714x said:
Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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Incorrect. T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.
don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
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don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
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I am running Goldeneye's I9505 rom with T-Mobile on my SCH-I545 now as we speak
Our s4 is able to connect to all available networks but the sim cards have created the limitations...if you have tmo sim + correct APN installed it will work on that network... Should be about the same across the board...that's why its sim unlocked...with the right info and tools it should work on any network
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Our s4 is able to connect to all available networks but the sim cards have created the limitations...if you have tmo sim + correct APN installed it will work on that network... Should be about the same across the board...that's why its sim unlocked...with the right info and tools it should work on any network
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ya i get that part, but the funny thing is my old s4 that broke had the same apn settings. as this new one and could not get lte from tmo or att,
i know i can get voice signal from other cell providers,
but is picking up LTE from att/tMobile/verizon. normal for 1 device cause my old one definitely did not get LTE from anyone but Verizon
thanks for the info guys.
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ya i get that part, but the funny thing is my old s4 that broke had the same apn settings. as this new one and could not get lte from tmo or att,
i know i can get voice signal from other cell providers,
but is picking up LTE from att/tMobile/verizon. normal for 1 device cause my old one definitely did not get LTE from anyone but Verizon
thanks for the info guys.
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Was your old s4 on pre mj7 firmware?
Samstealth7 said:
don't get me wrong I'm not complaining or anything, but i was told rightly by numerous forum members,
that a verizon wireless galaxy s4 was not capable of receiving any other LTE Bands aside from verizon wireless LTE,
and that it was an actual hardware limitation of the device which does sound logical,
so my question is do I have a special device.?
one thing I will say about this new GS4 is it's a refurbished model,
it was a replacement through my insurance program at Best Buy.
it's running 4.3 mk2, I'm receiving AT&T LTE via prepaid net10 sim, and also
T-Mobile LTE through a postpaid account sim.
so I'm thinking this was possibly a GSM model and was configured to run on Verizon's network when it got refurbished?
or do all S4's built after a certain date have the capability of receiving LTE from multiple carriers..?¿?
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what are your apn settings?
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Was your old s4 on pre mj7 firmware?
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yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
cmlucht said:
what are your apn settings?
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tmo apn settings
Samstealth7 said:
yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
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As of mj7 global mode was enabled on our s4s...until that I believe our radios were vzw only as far as LTE goes...also our radios I believe are of the first gen to be CDMA and GSM capable
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what are your apn settings?
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att LTE via - net10
jamesd1085 said:
As of mj7 global mode was enabled on our s4s...until that I believe our radios were vzw only as far as LTE goes...also our radios I believe are of the first gen to be CDMA and GSM capable
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cool thanks buddy
Samstealth7 said:
att LTE via - net10
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ok I have those settings but I only get h+
cmlucht said:
ok I have those settings but I only get h+
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What's your firmware version?
jamesd1085 said:
What's your firmware version?
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im running hyperdrive
Samstealth7 said:
yes sir mdk.
so are you saying these newer devices that are running 4.3 out of the box should be capable of using all of the LTE bands used in the United States.
if that's the case I'm definitely happy for the community ,and then kinda bummed out because I'm not special
lol j/k
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Mj7 modem unlocked new LTE bands
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joshm.1219 said:
Mj7 modem unlocked new LTE bands
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good deal man,
that rocks on so many levels,
I was always telling my friends if you was going to buy a phone used or outright to go with a Verizon model,
just because of it being sim unlocked,
and now with this news about the LTE radios it seems like Verizon would be your best choice for an all-around device.
I wonder if a new T-Mobile or AT&T s4, would get LTE from Verizon?
Samstealth7 said:
good deal man,
that rocks on so many levels,
I was always telling my friends if you was going to buy a phone used or outright to go with a Verizon model,
just because of it being sim unlocked,
and now with this news about the LTE radios it seems like Verizon would be your best choice for an all-around device.
I wonder if a new T-Mobile or AT&T s4, would get LTE from Verizon?
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A T-Mobile device might get VZW's new LTE, it's AWS like T-Mobile's. VZW hasn't turned it on everywhere though.
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joshm.1219 said:
A T-Mobile device might get VZW's new LTE, it's AWS like T-Mobile's. VZW hasn't turned it on everywhere though.
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My friend just got that One Max your on.... Jeeeez that thing is huge!!! He told me so far his battery life has been great too.. although the phone is only a month old so we'll have to see after more time passes.
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My friend just got that One Max your on.... Jeeeez that thing is huge!!! He told me so far his battery life has been great too.. although the phone is only a month old so we'll have to see after more time passes.
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Lol tell him to get on viper rom it's like hyper drive on steroids and synthol
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im running hyperdrive
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That's your rom not your firmware...mdk mj7 mk2?its under about phone