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So I made the switch from my hyperdrive S3 to the s4 yesterday. Best buy did the update to me7... Am I understanding that I'm stuck with stock because it has an unlockable bootloader? I rooted it last night and it was fine but now what?
I can't stand a bloated stock phone anymore after my slimmed s3.
Everything I've read seems to indicate there's no way around the bootloader
As of right now, yes, you're stuck on stock. You do have root, so you can at least freeze the Samsung/carrier apps you don't want, but the bootloader is locked and nobody has figured out a way to bypass it yet. If you unroot you might be able to return it on the excuse that the phone is having performance issues, and tell them you've heard the new software update is to blame so you don't want it installed on the replacement.
Good Morning everyone. I need to flash back to 4.1.2 to get my phone looked at. Is it possible to re-root after I get my phone back? I see people are having problems using casual and getting a partition 60 missing? or something on that order any help would be greatly appreciated.
jimbo15482 said:
Good Morning everyone. I need to flash back to 4.1.2 to get my phone looked at. Is it possible to re-root after I get my phone back? I see people are having problems using casual and getting a partition 60 missing? or something on that order any help would be greatly appreciated.
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When you say "flash back to 4.1.2", do you mean just flash a stock 4.1.2 ROM, or use ODIN to restore your phone to factory locked condition?
As long as the phone does not accept the 4.3 OTA then casual will still work. If the 4.3 OTA gets installed on your phone, then you will not be able to unlock the bootloader again. You can still achieve root access, but not unlock, which will prevent you from being able to install custom roms.
I just want to make sure I've got this right. I've done the VRUEMJ9 4.3 OTA update. If I flash back to the stock VRAMC3 4.1.2 build using ODIN, I still won't be able to unlock my bootloader?
If so, I wish I'd known this before I took the OTA update. On my old phone, I could just sbf to an older build and that took care of any problems. I thought that it would be the same with this phone, but I guess not. Frustrating.
GreenRaccoon said:
I just want to make sure I've got this right. I've done the VRUEMJ9 4.3 OTA update. If I flash back to the stock VRAMC3 4.1.2 build using ODIN, I still won't be able to unlock my bootloader?
If so, I wish I'd known this before I took the OTA update. On my old phone, I could just sbf to an older build and that took care of any problems. I thought that it would be the same with this phone, but I guess not. Frustrating.
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That is the case, unfortunately. From the research I've done it would seem the bootloader on this device cannot be downgraded. The files we have available to flash via ODIN do not change the bootloader, they are not full images. And yes it is frustrating, several of my family members were not the happy with the 4.3 OTA and were ready to take the custom ROM plunge, too late.
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That is the case, unfortunately. From the research I've done it would seem the bootloader on this device cannot be downgraded. The files we have available to flash via ODIN do not change the bootloader, they are not full images. And yes it is frustrating, several of my family members were not the happy with the 4.3 OTA and were ready to take the custom ROM plunge, too late.
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Is there a way to track down the full bootloader img for older versions?
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Is there a way to track down the full bootloader img for older versions?
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Not that I know of.
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So, I dropped and cracked another screen, 4 but whose counting. I called Assurion and they said they'll send me a new i605 without updating it to OTA 4.3
Now my main question is how do I go about unlocking the bootloader, and rooting it from stock. It's been so long since I was on a bone stock rom. I know the last time I did it there was some "suck it verizon" file and a .pit file. Do I follow these direstions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636
Also, When I get it unlocked and Philz recovery on the phone can I restore a backup of Sophisticated rom, or do I have to reinstall from scratch?
crbnfbr said:
So, I dropped and cracked another screen, 4 but whose counting. I called Assurion and they said they'll send me a new i605 without updating it to OTA 4.3
Now my main question is how do I go about unlocking the bootloader, and rooting it from stock. It's been so long since I was on a bone stock rom. I know the last time I did it there was some "suck it verizon" file and a .pit file. Do I follow these direstions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636
Also, When I get it unlocked and Philz recovery on the phone can I restore a backup of Sophisticated rom, or do I have to reinstall from scratch?
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If its 4.1.2 go here to root, unlock bootloader and install custom recovery in 1 click.
Since u already have a backup, I think after you have custom recovery, you just can restore your backup.(cmiiw)
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If its 4.1.2 go here to root, unlock bootloader and install custom recovery in 1 click.
Since u already have a backup, I think after you have custom recovery, you just can restore your backup.(cmiiw)
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Thanks, that will be a lot easier than the original method I had to do over a year ago. I just really hope they send me a non upgraded phone. The guy said he would put a note in my claim not to do the 4.3 OTA upgrade, fingers crossed.
Bonkurei said:
If its 4.1.2 go here to root, unlock bootloader and install custom recovery in 1 click.
Since u already have a backup, I think after you have custom recovery, you just can restore your backup.(cmiiw)
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Thanks, that will be a lot easier than the original method I had to do over a year ago. I just really hope they send me a non upgraded phone. The guy said he would put a note in my claim not to do the 4.3 OTA upgrade, fingers crossed.
Turns out to be a moot point. New phonrle came with 4.3. Even though the Assurion guy I talked to yesterday said it wouldn't. Now they say they "have" to update to the newest firmware, or it won't work with the network. What a bunch of BS.
So, I'm sort of confused right now. I'm getting "internet unstable messages" on 4.3, and I only got those was from Beans 4.3 leak.
Could it be that my phone was flashed with a leaked 4.3 then sent in to the insurance company, and never updated because it'd already be running 4.3?
The wife wants to update to new phone. Can the verizon LG G3 as of right now 01-25-15, be rooted and bootloader unlocked or is a lost cause being verizon? Thanks for any tips.
kgirlx said:
The wife wants to update to new phone. Can the verizon LG G3 as of right now 01-25-15, be rooted and bootloader unlocked or is a lost cause being verizon? Thanks for any tips.
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You are still good to go. Depending on which firmware it has you might have to downgrade to root and unlock, but there are some pretty good guides on how to do that in this forum.
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You are still good to go. Depending on which firmware it has you might have to downgrade to root and unlock, but there are some pretty good guides on how to do that in this forum.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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10b is what you want to be on. Once you root that and installed the bumped twrp its easy to flash an updated stock and an updated modem to get back on the latest update.
I got mine back in December and it was still on 10b. I didn't have to downgrade.
I am running 12b right now via Eclipse ROM. Fantastic!
kgirlx said:
OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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Once you are rooted, you can retain root through the updates. So you can root, update, then install twrp if you like. From there you can backup your stock abd mess around with whatever custom roms you like.
read my post under general and flash tool thread last week w links
its easy, I was in your shoes 2 or 3 weeks ago. read my post under general and the flash tool thread = basically 10 minutes total = If I remember correctly just instal LG drivers onto Windows, open flash tool folder, click and drag 10b file to flash folder, run, Root w stump via hard method when it says phone not ssupported/ use hard crack method or whatever is says (forgot) or ioroot, supersu & twrp via play store apps is easy on LG g3. Save twrp restore state on sd, then use 12b file I linked, I love it! My wife will not get a Samsung next time, this thing is awesome due to less big brother and more friendly focus on hardware vs locking u out. Fyi the screen is not dim in the Sun as reviews always said.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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I got mine a week ago and it came with 10b
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I don't mean to beat a dead horse, as I'm sure it's been brought up. But every search I've done just brings up how to update to OC1 without losing root. All the way back to the original Motorola Droid, I've always rooted and added a custom recovery and ROM to every phone I've had. I was running Hyperdrive RLS20 and loved it. I've been using Hyperdrive since my Galaxy S3. Then I saw Hyperdrive RLS21 came out and decided I wanted to give it a shot. And although I've flashed over a few hundred ROMs no problem, this time really screwed my phone. I could only get into DL mode. I tried about 25 different ways until I had Kies fix it, which put it on 5.0.1. Can I revert down with Odin? Or is there anything I can do to get root and SU back. Any help would be much, MUCH appreciated
Nope, by taking the latest OTA (or in this case Kies) you've locked yourself into the latest version, for which there is currently no Root
That sucks. No way to use Odin in order to downgrade or anything? This is the first time since I've ever owned an android phone that I've been stuck without root
52brandon said:
That sucks. No way to use Odin in order to downgrade or anything? This is the first time since I've ever owned an android phone that I've been stuck without root
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Nope. Locked Bootloader sucks.
Every single time there is an update these individuals always end up in this situation! !! No matter how many times they're told to wait and just not update!!!
Charlie115 said:
Every single time there is an update these individuals always end up in this situation! !! No matter how many times they're told to wait and just not update!!!
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Don't lump me In with that crowd. I had no intention on going to 5.0.1. If you read my original post, I was upgrading to Hyperdrive KK21 from KK20 (and yes, I followed every single instruction to the T. My only guess is that the USB connection got messed up and only flashed a portion causing the problems) and it **** the bed mid-update. I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed. So I used Kies to try to repair it and ended up ****ed on 5.0.1. The one solution I didn't want. I've NEVER had an android since the D1 that wasn't rooted running a custom ROM. Which is why I'm so desperately trying to get back to rooted. While 5.0.1 is actually a very nice OS, not having all the root options is killing me. And since its now 2 generations old, my hopes that a root exploit will be found, or that people even care enough to try to find one are extremely low. But, I sure hope I'm wrong, and that an exploit for one of the newer generations Galaxies will work on this one too. I'm OCD about having root and this is killing me
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I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed.
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If you're ever in this situation again, give up on retaining your current root, flash back to true stock (with a re-partition .pit file as well), and re-root. If you had flashed the nc5 full-wipe with the .pit file and just restored root from a clean system, you would have been fine.
52brandon said:
Don't lump me In with that crowd. I had no intention on going to 5.0.1. If you read my original post, I was upgrading to Hyperdrive KK21 from KK20 (and yes, I followed every single instruction to the T. My only guess is that the USB connection got messed up and only flashed a portion causing the problems) and it **** the bed mid-update. I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed. So I used Kies to try to repair it and ended up ****ed on 5.0.1. The one solution I didn't want. I've NEVER had an android since the D1 that wasn't rooted running a custom ROM. Which is why I'm so desperately trying to get back to rooted. While 5.0.1 is actually a very nice OS, not having all the root options is killing me. And since its now 2 generations old, my hopes that a root exploit will be found, or that people even care enough to try to find one are extremely low. But, I sure hope I'm wrong, and that an exploit for one of the newer generations Galaxies will work on this one too. I'm OCD about having root and this is killing me
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Well, you should have known better than to use kies...
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Honestly I don't even think that devlopers will make much effort to even find out how to root this version as its says that this is one of two updates before getting lollypop.
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52brandon said:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, as I'm sure it's been brought up. But every search I've done just brings up how to update to OC1 without losing root. All the way back to the original Motorola Droid, I've always rooted and added a custom recovery and ROM to every phone I've had. I was running Hyperdrive RLS20 and loved it. I've been using Hyperdrive since my Galaxy S3. Then I saw Hyperdrive RLS21 came out and decided I wanted to give it a shot. And although I've flashed over a few hundred ROMs no problem, this time really screwed my phone. I could only get into DL mode. I tried about 25 different ways until I had Kies fix it, which put it on 5.0.1. Can I revert down with Odin? Or is there anything I can do to get root and SU back. Any help would be much, MUCH appreciated
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KingRoot 4.1 rooted my galaxy s4 on oc1....and try flashing an nc5 tar in flashfire
You cannot flash anything with flashfire. If you flash that tar, you WILL brick.
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Just wondering, i have rooted my OC1 with Kingroot 4.1, now, can someone make a guide showing how to downgrade from OC1?
PD:. Sorry for my horrible english.
Epiphany^ said:
Just wondering, i have rooted my OC1 with Kingroot 4.1, now, can someone make a guide showing how to downgrade from OC1?
PD:. Sorry for my horrible english.
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You can't downgrade from OC1.
Downgrade isn't a root issue, it is a bootloader issue. Unless the bootloader gets unlocked, we're stuck on OC1
kingroot does work
I had done the dumb thing and was impatient and did the oc1 update to later find out you can not downgrade and im on Verizon Samsung galaxy s4 (sch-i545) which even on kit kat is very limited to rooting it.. but on a whim I seen a post about king root and it mentioned that and I did see this myself but it will say not supported like it did on mine. but I figured what the hell.. whats the worst that could happen... well im rooted now and only tried because I had seen others make that comment.. well kingroot works for s4 Verizon with locked bootloader.. no need to downgrade from oc1.. just get the app and click... took less than 10 mins if I rememner right.. and I have had no pronlems in 3 days.. it oddly even fixed some of the bugs I was having with oc1 like incoming calls not ringing
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I had done the dumb thing and was impatient and did the oc1 update to later find out you can not downgrade and im on Verizon Samsung galaxy s4 (sch-i545) which even on kit kat is very limited to rooting it.. but on a whim I seen a post about king root and it mentioned that and I did see this myself but it will say not supported like it did on mine. but I figured what the hell.. whats the worst that could happen... well im rooted now and only tried because I had seen others make that comment.. well kingroot works for s4 Verizon with locked bootloader.. no need to downgrade from oc1.. just get the app and click... took less than 10 mins if I rememner right.. and I have had no pronlems in 3 days.. it oddly even fixed some of the bugs I was having with oc1 like incoming calls not ringing
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You have root. But you have a much lower chance of getting an unlocked Bootloader than anyone on NC5/NK1/NK4. They have root, module loading, and a potential for kexec to run custom kernels.
Don't upgrade to OC1 via OTA if you haven't already everyone! Use Muniz_ri's keeproot upgrade method!
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bigg6987 said:
Downgrade isn't a root issue, it is a bootloader issue. Unless the bootloader gets unlocked, we're stuck on OC1
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Even then you're stuck. Rollback has little to do with the BL. Rollback is set at a much lower level (physically).
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