Hello,
Recently I bought Xperia Z Ultra to carry one device instead of two (Nexus 7 and Samsung S III Mini). Unfortunately I didn't know about different layouts and I didn't check before in which mode Z Ultra works. I though that application check resolution and shows its best. Now I know that it works in phone layout. I read also that after rooting I can switch to tablet layout. So my questions are:
1. Is it make a sense to root my Xperia and switch layout? If yes should I choose tablet or phablet layout? Is there any phablet layout for Z Ultra?
2. What's the difference between Phone, phablet and Tablet layout?
3. How many applications are written in double (triple) layouts?
4. Is it any difference in these layout for e.g. Angry Birds (all games), Amazon Kindle, Chrome, Flipboard, Google Maps, Pocket? Could anyone send me some pictures if there are differences? (I already sold Nexus 7 so I can't compare)
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1. If you want to, sure. It's nice to have tablet layout.
2. You already know how the phone layout looks like. It's dense so the UI elements fit properly on small screens. Phablet layout is what you see on the Nexus 7 and newer tablets that run KitKat. Google removed the tablet system UI layout in KitKat, but apps still run like they've always done. So there are two official layouts. Phone (Nexus 5) and "Phablet" (Nexus 7). The Z Ultra actually runs a strange mix of that. Pocket runs in tablet mode out of the box on the Ultra.
3. I don't know what this means.
4. Games won't have a different layout. Chrome, Flipboard, Maps and Pocket will. Note that it's the devs responsibility to support tablet layout, so don't really expect every app out there to support it.
I could take some screenshots of some apps in tablet mode, but I'm currently running the GPe ROM (KitKat) and I'm running it at 400 DPI, i.e phone UI.
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Thank you for so good answer. Thanks
Unfortunately, Kikat does not support layouts anymore. Even if you lower the density to 100 it does not switch to tablet layout like it used to.
Leechoonhwee said:
Unfortunately, Kikat does not support layouts anymore. Even if you lower the density to 100 it does not switch to tablet layout like it used to.
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Correct, but you will at one point get the "phablet" statusbar (split notification/quick settings) and the split Settings and other minor changes when you lower the DPI to a certain point (192 I think, but I don't really remember). But yeah, the old tablet UI is gone in KitKat.
Note that the 192 DPI detail above is something that I have only tested on AOSP ROMs and not on Sony ROMs, so I don't know if or how a stock ROM will react to a change like this.
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Correct, but you will at one point get the "phablet" statusbar (split notification/quick settings) and the split Settings and other minor changes when you lower the DPI to a certain point (192 I think, but I don't really remember). But yeah, the old tablet UI is gone in KitKat.
Note that the 192 DPI detail above is something that I have only tested on AOSP ROMs and not on Sony ROMs, so I don't know if or how a stock ROM will react to a change like this.
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Doesn't work. I've tested few months ago.
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Well I got myself an Epic 4G (OG) with AOKP/CM7/CM9 and a Chinese ICS tablet (I am a Chinese high school student myself...) so I'm easily fascinated by the tablet UI of ICS. Apart from that, once I testdrived CM7 on my tablet and the Honeycomb-style softkey really enlightened me...
So today I was wandering the net and came up with this:
rootzw i ki. com/topi c/20451-mod -9-roms-table t-mode/ [REMOVE SPACES - THE FORUM WON'T LET ME PUT LINKS...]
Well, there's support for tablet UI mod for 9 different ICS roms inside for Galaxy Nexus...
But then look at the version required - it seems that the packs are not just modded for a specific phone, a specific ROM but also for a specific version... So it's kinda useless to me... Tried more search and returned no more results except that someone mentioned that some mods could be done in /res/values/bools.xml of framework-res.apk (I'm no total noob and I know how)...
So question is, is there really a way as detailed as modding DPIs and framework-res.apk to enable tablet mode on ICS? To make it further, is it available for Gingerbread?(i.e. putting FULL CM7 Tablet Tweaks on ALL phones without compiling a new ROM) And for tablets, any way to disable tablet UI as well? (My tablet HAS capacitive keys designed for portrait use like a Galaxy Tab P1000 so I would like to disable Tablet UI for it)
EDIT: Modding DPI only doesn't seem to do it at least on my tablet - DPI from 120 to 240 but results are only bigger nav bar and buttons...
Bump... sinks so fast
I am coming from an S2 where I set LCD to 160 to simulate 720p display. GORGEOUS just what I wanted.
I figured going to S3 it would "BE" 720p all set. no. they blew everything up larger so it looks like the S2 stock. IE everything too big.
I was reading that lowest safe value is 240 so I set that. lcd density did not work so I modded the build prop in rom toobox
phone reboots screen LOOKS AMAZING for about 10 second then it freezes on me and is unresponsive. eventually it reboots.
in the process of using adb to reset builb prop back to 320
suggestions? I am on the leaked JB rom using Nova launcher. How do I get a lower LCD density to work ?
ok I ended up just reflashing the rom took 2 tries but that did it reset it. I tried 260 and it almost froze up again but then I got a samsung keyboard crashed.
AHA that must be what was freezing it so while it was responsive I jumped in and changed to swype. problem solved. tried 240 again works GREAT !! and wow soo soo much nicer now at 240
only problem is for some reason the swype keyboard LACKS a MIC icon to enable speech typing. anyone have any idea's how to fix that? the swype keyboard on my l2 has the mic icon ??
Just edit the build.prop file and change the value to 240,it works perfectly fine. And by the way I always use 240 dpi
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i first have to gain access to the build prop file which i could not do done thevSamsung keyboard kept crashing the device
reinstalle rom tried 260 itworked keyboard still failed but did not kill the system so i changed it then i was able to set 240
itmight be because i am using jelly bean leak. Swype in jb sucks does not auto space and no microphone icon to invoke speech recognition
boy the s3 is so much nicer at 240
Can I change the DPI for sammy based ROMs? or is it only for AOSP ROMs?
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Can I change the DPI for sammy based ROMs? or is it only for AOSP ROMs?
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You can change DPI for any ROM.
..out of curiosity, the S3 has a 720p display no? Is 240 a more true resolution for 720p on this phone? .. a little confused
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not sure about "true" resolution. but 240 is what I "expected" going from 800x480 to 1280x720
instead what they did was to "enlarge" all the objects in scale so relative to physical phone dimensions the screen objects remains the same size IE consumed more pixels.
my problem now is that the samsung keyboard is not compatible with resolution 240 (SO MAKE SURE you change keyboards before you change screen density)
but the swype keyboard that is baked in is HORRIBLE. it does not auto space and has no MIC button for speech.
not sure what AOSP roms means (certain dev group??) I am using the "stock" leaked JB rom. you can NOT USE Touchwiz !! you must use an alternative launcher from what I am reading. I do anyway (nova) ie be warned.
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not sure about "true" resolution. but 240 is what I "expected" going from 800x480 to 1280x720
instead what they did was to "enlarge" all the objects in scale so relative to physical phone dimensions the screen objects remains the same size IE consumed more pixels.
my problem now is that the samsung keyboard is not compatible with resolution 240 (SO MAKE SURE you change keyboards before you change screen density)
but the swype keyboard that is baked in is HORRIBLE. it does not auto space and has no MIC button for speech.
not sure what AOSP roms means (certain dev group??) I am using the "stock" leaked JB rom. you can NOT USE Touchwiz !! you must use an alternative launcher from what I am reading. I do anyway (nova) ie be warned.
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Hmm. May try it. On my previous phones. S1 and S2 the default DPI was 240 and I always lowered it to 180. But since having the S3 and phone size I've just let it be. Can't stand TW launcher so that's been replaced with HOLO and I use the stock JB keyboard. So hopefully I won't run into any issues if I decide to change it up
Oh and AOSP- stands for Android Open Source Project. Its pure vanilla android. No skins, tweaks, ... its pure android from source. CM is built off of AOSP..
AOKP- Android Open Kang Project. Built from AOSP with a lot more bells and whistles.
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what S2 did you use. the difference is important since sprint got the larger 4.5" screen (ie almost same size as S3)
I set my S2 to 160. I set te S3 to 240 because it was suggested that any lower would cause issue since that moves into "tablet" resolutions.
I am VERY satisfied at 240 on the S3. it feels "right" now and not "tonka toy larger"
Paranoid Android for the win.
You set DPI's per-app and it's built on the CM10 base.
WOH I need that !!! (set dpi per app) I just discovered the CAMERA app does not scale. so its using half the screen now hehe but at least it works
is there a paranoid android rom for the S3? is it JB based? and if available for the S3 any functionality issues ?
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WOH I need that !!! (set dpi per app) I just discovered the CAMERA app does not scale. so its using half the screen now hehe but at least it works
is there a paranoid android rom for the S3? is it JB based? and if available for the S3 any functionality issues ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003
I'm actually currently running PA 2.18.1 and a stock sammy too for some testing, using Siyah's dual boot kernel.
I changed the dpi to 240 but barely didn't notice any difference?
what I did:
-edit the system/build.prop (thru root browser)
-change this "ro.sf.lcd_density = 320"
-to this "ro.sf.lcd_density = 240"
my default setting even before editing the build.prop
-Nova launcher
-7x7 desktop grid
rom at sig
huh the difference was INSTANT and HUGE for me as soon as it finshed booting. everything got smaller and more detailed.
I am also using the max grid size (7x6 I think in nova) huge improvement.
yeah 240 deforms the stock dialer too. pitty I LOVE the stock dialer. its actually the first stock dialer where I don't want to change anything at all. gorgeous.
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yeah 240 deforms the stock dialer too...
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[MOD] 240 DPI stock Dialer for all jellybean roms[Universal Flasher]
Nice exactly what I need alas it does not appear to work gonna try flashing again and post in that thread. thank you for the link!
Mod does work, try clearing Dalvik cache.
By the way, do stock Clock app FC for you too?
I can not get it to work. neither the 240 or the restore worked for me.
the nandroid backup worked to get me "back" so Iwill try again and clear dalvik and see what happens.
yes clock crashes for me too. Grrr got to find a replacement for that too now.
have you found a swype keyboard that has the MIC icon so I can do speech? my s2 has it but the S3 does not
I tried it again. mod DOES NOT WORK on my phone. once again contacts has stopped and it crashes.
contacts itself works fine as long as I don't touch the "dialer" phone tab.
I cleared cache and delvik fixed permissions still no joy. does not work and neither does restore.
is this for ICS or JB ? that might be why it does not work.
This mod should work on all firmwares. I tested it on Omega 27.2, which is based on latest - DLIB - firmware. Not sure if mod will work on odexed rom, you should ask the author about it.
The only thing stopping us from releasing Themer on other resolutions is that we don't have the resources to re-build each theme for the ones we'd like to support, including: 480x854 (lots of devices), 800x1280 (Galaxy Note 1), 768 x 1280 (Optimus G), and any other phone you might have.
If anyone would like to help out, let us know. This requires extreme attention to detail, skills with Photoshop, and deep familiarity with the Themer design tools (including Everything Widget). Obviously you also need to have a device with one of the above (currently unsupported) resolutions.
Please note that when we talk about resolutions, we are referring to the out-of-the-box available screen resolution, excluding any space taken up by softkeys/navigation bar.
If you want to work on this, PM me. Please explain why you'd be a good candidate (examples of themes you've built, proof of Photoshop expertise, etc.)
Thanks!
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The only thing stopping us from releasing Themer on other resolutions is that we don't have the resources to re-build each theme for the ones we'd like to support, including: 480x854 (lots of devices), 800x1280 (Galaxy Note 1), 768 x 1280 (Optimus G), and any other phone you might have.
If anyone would like to help out, let us know. This requires extreme attention to detail, skills with Photoshop, and deep familiarity with the Themer design tools (including Everything Widget). Obviously you also need to have a device with one of the above (currently unsupported) resolutions.
Please note that when we talk about resolutions, we are referring to the out-of-the-box available screen resolution, excluding any space taken up by softkeys/navigation bar.
If you want to work on this, PM me. Please explain why you'd be a good candidate (examples of themes you've built, proof of Photoshop expertise, etc.)
Thanks!
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Just guessing...
Most of the modders - like me - uses different DPI resolutions. For example I modded my downloaded theme to match my 190 dpi setting, moving icons, shadows, and so on. Would not be a nice idea if the elements should be placed relative to screen, instead of fixed-pixel-based position ?
leandrocn said:
Just guessing...
Most of the modders - like me - uses different DPI resolutions. For example I modded my downloaded theme to match my 190 dpi setting, moving icons, shadows, and so on. Would not be a nice idea if the elements should be placed relative to screen, instead of fixed-pixel-based position ?
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Would be but the best but probably a hard nut
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Guys,
There is no need to individually create themes at each DPI. There are plenty, CM Theme chooser and Buzz Launcher that both are DPI independent. Maybe dig around in there code to learn how, but having a theme for each DPI might be a mistake, as people will use other launchers if the theme they want isn't usable
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Guys,
There is no need to individually create themes at each DPI. There are plenty, CM Theme chooser and Buzz Launcher that both are DPI independent. Maybe dig around in there code to learn how, but having a theme for each DPI might be a mistake, as people will use other launchers if the theme they want isn't usable
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I agree that it is a misstake. I wan't my navigation at 70% or 36 DPI and this means that I can't see any theme in this launcher, but if I change to stock layout and apply a theme and then change back to navbar at 70% the themes still work great. Is there a way to see and apply themes if you don't have stock dpi and navbar? If not it's a dumb move by the developers sense the themes seems to work fine.
It seems like it could be a great launcher if it worked "like it should", but I uninstalled it after a few mins and wen't back to Nova.
Hope you fix the launcher so people can change rom, dpi, navbar etc without the app complaning about it and not showing any themes...
If you are including tablets is galaxy gab 3 then count me in
I've got a Chinese phablet - THL T200. It has a 1920x1080 screen with 480 dpi resolution. Its CPU is 8-core MTK6592 and has 2GB of RAM. It runs almost stock Android 4.2.2.
However Themer says that the device is incompatible. What exactly is the reason of this and is there any way to override? I'm certain that Themer would run perfectly well on my device.
Thank you.
Root it and put a real 4. 2.2 instead of an almost
It's a real stock 4.2.2 with minor framework adjustments for the dual sim module. TouchWiz Samsung devices are much more modified, yet they are completely supported.
Don't forget that Themer is just a launcher, not a framework replacement. Any device with a standard resolution should be compatible, however it appears that there is a whitelist of allowed devices, not a blacklist of disallowed.
LOL, this is retarded. I managed to get it working.
The only thing I had to do was to enable Expanded Desktop that was configured to hide both status bar and navigation bar, and the homescreens appeared.
The thread now changes from Question to Bug report.
I received my Galaxy Tab S7+ and much to my dismay - Galaxy Themes doesn't work. Hell, it doesn't even exist on our tablets. I did not know this prior to purchasing the tablet.
I have grown very fond of using Hex themes to modify my OneUI to have AOSP icons and what not on my Samsung phones and was hoping to do the same to my Tab S7+. When I download the actual .apk file from Sammobile and installed it, I pretty much got nowhere as when I click on the app it just takes me to the apps permissions.
Now, I had no real intention of rooting this tablet as I just didn't need to, but this would legitimately qualify as a reason to obtain root. Thus, my question being - is it possible to somehow install Samsung's Galaxy Themes app and have it work via root? Has anyone had success in somehow theming their Samsung tablet?
I'm loving the tablet, but absolutely despise the boring blue theme and certain aspects of the notification shade that I change with hex themes/galaxy themes.
Cheers!
I use the Nova Launcher instead. So I can use the icon set of my choice.
I'll believe, that root doesn't help in this case
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I use the Nova Launcher instead. So I can use the icon set of my choice.
I'll believe, that root doesn't help in this case
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It's not the stock launcher icons that bother me, oddly enough, it's the quick setting icons, quick settings colour, notification divider, etc. things that can't be changed with a launcher.
I tried using the app named One Shade by TreyDev but there are bugs so its none too enjoyable.
I am no expert, but rooting will not help. You need to have a Galaxy phone ROM ported over that supports theming. I own the Note Pro 12.2 LTE and I am running the ported Note 7 ROM with theme support and I am loving it. Relax, it is a new device and someone will surely port a ROM over that supports theming.
Use Goodlock to change things like the quick settings.
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Use Goodlock to change things like the quick settings.
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I've just discovered goodlock and wow! It's like xposed for Samsung devices.
AhsanU said:
I received my Galaxy Tab S7+ and much to my dismay - Galaxy Themes doesn't work. Hell, it doesn't even exist on our tablets. I did not know this prior to purchasing the tablet.
I have grown very fond of using Hex themes to modify my OneUI to have AOSP icons and what not on my Samsung phones and was hoping to do the same to my Tab S7+. When I download the actual .apk file from Sammobile and installed it, I pretty much got nowhere as when I click on the app it just takes me to the apps permissions.
Now, I had no real intention of rooting this tablet as I just didn't need to, but this would legitimately qualify as a reason to obtain root. Thus, my question being - is it possible to somehow install Samsung's Galaxy Themes app and have it work via root? Has anyone had success in somehow theming their Samsung tablet?
I'm loving the tablet, but absolutely despise the boring blue theme and certain aspects of the notification shade that I change with hex themes/galaxy themes.
Cheers!
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In developer options, you can change icon shape and quick setting accent color.