[QA] DELL VENUE 7/8 Intel General Discussion: - Dell Venue

[QA] DELL VENUE 7/8 Intel General Discussion:
I am forking the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520166
I have desided to take it upon myself to start a new thread for the general Q&A of the these two devices:
Dell Venue 7 and Dell Venue 8 Intel Atom Devices fell free to post question and general topics here but please before posting read or search the whole thread your question or topic might of been covered already.
General: Venue 7 = V7 ; Venue 8 = V8
if something was covered already in the old thread please quote or link the post in this thread for everyone to see and be sure to credit the original poster.
Please don't ask about rooting in this thread there is no public root method for the V7 on either 4.2.2 or 4.3 or V8 4.3 yet, rooting and development discussion has been moved here:
rooting and development discussion no root yet
this is my final warning do not update yet Dell could change the update at anytime and break my root method.
sucessfully rooted Kitkat i know what additions i have to add / change in the toolKIT to root it so its off to bed really glad i didn't release the toolKIT yet would of sucked to of had to have everyone re-download after a week or have dell fix my root method better that they did lol.... please stay tuned.
my daughter will be out at her biological fathers this weekend so i'm going to do my best to get everything updated and uploaded by the end of the weekend.
this is my final warning do not update yet Dell could change the update at anytime and break my root method.
i am working on capturing the ota for the v8 so i can provide everything needed for a rooted Venue KitKat.
so please be patient as of now the Venue 7 KitKat has successfully been rooted on KitKat.
less than 24 ours after the ota dropped i say that's pretty good for being just a hobbyist......
this is my final warning do not update yet Dell could change the update at anytime and break my root method.
As always please follow all XDA rules and PLEASE RESPECT other users.
my post to Dell's facebook page Dell Venue 7/8 Intel Unlock Request like, share comment, maybe with enough support Dell will unlock these devices.
XDA:DevDB Information
[TOOL KIT] myKIT_BATCHV1.1.x, ROM for the Dell Venue
Contributors
social-design-concepts
ROM OS Version: 2.3.x Gingerbread
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2016-05-28
Last Updated 2016-05-27

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None of the Skype versions work on the Android 4.3 rooted image
I also try the modded one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
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joanthanmajh said:
None of the Skype versions work on the Android 4.3 rooted image
I also try the modded one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
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Works for me, what's the problem you are having.
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hunterk11 said:
Works for me, what's the problem you are having.
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the app wont open, it just crashes

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joanthanmajh said:
the app wont open, it just crashes
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Ah, not sure wipe cache maybe.
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joanthanmajh said:
None of the Skype versions work on the Android 4.3 rooted image
I also try the modded one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
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I had this problem with the Root Dev edition... i flash back the 4.3 Standard root image from Jcase and Skype working back... Something wrong in the Dev rom edition with skype...

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Tornade69 said:
I had this problem with the Root Dev edition... i flash back the 4.3 Standard root image from Jcase and Skype working back... Something wrong in the Dev rom edition with skype...
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I too am on the stock root image.
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hunterk11 said:
I too am on the stock root image.
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it's weird... opposite for me. My skype problems start right after installing the Dev edition and everything went back to normal when i flashed the root stock rom... but right now, because i flashed first the Dev Edition... my kernel is dev edition and System partition is standard edition.. a kinda of hybrid ...lol!!!

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Tornade69 said:
it's weird... opposite for me. My skype problems start right after installing the Dev edition and everything went back to normal when i flashed the root stock rom... but right now, because i flashed first the Dev Edition... my kernel is dev edition and System partition is standard edition.. a kinda of hybrid ...lol!!!
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Lol, not opposite. That's what we said.
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hunterk11 said:
Lol, not opposite. That's what we said.
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Sorry misunderstood... my bad english... So you should try to flash the other image from jcase and your skype should works again!!!

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full flash for stock should be up soon.
so you can flash back the stock boot, recovery, droidboot images also will have a unrooted system image.
soon after images with the updates applied will come.
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Are there any plans for a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP) for the Venue? It really enstringes me that the Venue series all have unlocked bootloaders yet there are no recoveries to flash.
All the best,

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aarongillion63 said:
Are there any plans for a custom recovery (CWM, TWRP) for the Venue? It really enstringes me that the Venue series all have unlocked bootloaders yet there are no recoveries to flash.
All the best,
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I plan on attempting twrp after I finish the toolKIT and updating the factory images for both devices.
That is a miss conception the bootloaders are in fact locked the v8 dev conversion comes with a dev signing tool to sign the kernel, modules, and boot.img it also only comes with the boot stub for boot not one for recovery or fastboot though it might be possible to sign images repacked with the Intel packing tools that turl originally supplied.
But we will see.
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social-design-concepts said:
I plan on attempting twrp after I finish the toolKIT and updating the factory images for both devices.
That is a miss conception the bootloaders are in fact locked the v8 dev conversion comes with a dev signing tool to sign the kernel, modules, and boot.img it also only comes with the boot stub for boot not one for recovery or fastboot though it might be possible to sign images repacked with the Intel packing tools that turl originally supplied.
But we will see.
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Thank you. Another thing worth noting is that I can't get a lot of root apps to work on the JC stock rooted 4.3 flash. Firstly, I cannot modify iptables, which is the basis of DroidWall and Orbot Privoxy, both important apps to me. This appears to be a kernel incapability... Specifically the netfilter command.
Another major problem I'm having is that I can't install Xposed. It writes/installs properly but my V8 goes into bootloop, not fixable until I disable Xposed.
I also installed Busybox, manually mounted /system rw, and tried everything one more time hoping it would fix it, nothing changed.
Also worth noting is when I flashed the JC ROM, SuperSU did not come with it and I had to install it manually. Not sure if this is normal.
Any help is appreciated,
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aarongillion63 said:
Thank you. Another thing worth noting is that I can't get a lot of root apps to work on the JC stock rooted 4.3 flash. Firstly, I cannot modify iptables, which is the basis of DroidWall and Orbot Privoxy, both important apps to me. This appears to be a kernel incapability... Specifically the netfilter command.
Another major problem I'm having is that I can't install Xposed. It writes/installs properly but my V8 goes into bootloop, not fixable until I disable Xposed.
I also installed Busybox, manually mounted /system rw, and tried everything one more time hoping it would fix it, nothing changed.
Also worth noting is when I flashed the JC ROM, SuperSU did not come with it and I had to install it manually. Not sure if this is normal.
Any help is appreciated,
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I have a venue 7 personally so I have never used the case root image. I haven't tested I was working on obtaining the remaining images for the factory v8. and a simple toolKIT to make flashing for the average user as easy as possible. If you look back through the root thread there is a version of exposed that was beta for the Asus Intel tablet that works just don't update it, in the tool kit I hope to have finalized tmrw I included an installer for the working exposed few.
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Update: I got Xposed installed using the Asus/Intel beta mentioned above (thank you!). I'm finding myself pretty happy with my tablet now. Even though it was stock, there were just some obvious things missing, one of them annoying as heck: lack of a restart button (really?). I installed Gravity Box and everything seems to be working fine on this beta. I even got XHaloWindows working! Screenshots attached. I was definitely not gonna be able to live without multitasking, and I had a feeling it wasn't gonna work with our x86 tablet. So just so everyone knows, everything Xposed related is working, and I included pics of my current setup.
It's still driving me nuts that nothing iptables related will function. I am aware that this can be fixed simply via ticking a setting in the kernel configuration file. Netfilter to be exact. I'm hoping that can be fixed. (I'm not smart enough to mess with kernels yet lol).
I hope this inspires someone!
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Did root break encryption making for anyone else? I can start the process but then the tablet just reboots.
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Edit:Fixed it
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justmpm said:
Hi,
I am a little confused about this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681793...why is it in the General forum and not in one of the Dell Venue subforums? It really doesn't belong in the main General forum, so I need to move it somewhere more appropriate and I don't want to just blindly move it into the Venue forums, if there was a reason for it to be elsewhere.
Thanks
justmpm
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Thank you it is much appreciated that you didn't just blindly move the thread without asking first.
I don't feel the Venue forums located under the legacy / low activity devices is the proper place for these devices, the venue device covered under that is the old failed DEll Venue Phone and not the New Intel Mobile Internet Class Device that these tablets are, there were a few threads created by other users for these device under that heading but it seemed to have been causing confusion for both users of the Venue Phone and New users with the Venue 7 / 8 and was hard for new users to find...
The other issue was the original thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520166 was becoming a very toxic environment users getting upset about people posting general questions in a root thread so i felt the need to separate rooting and general device discussion into two threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681793 the forum you inquired about located under General discussion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681783 my other forum also located under General discussion.
While i understand that both these threads are misplaced under the General discussion > General > heading i feel that if they need to be moved a new device should be created for them to keep the seperate from the older Dell Venue Phone. Honestly i fell XDA needs to create a new category to house all Intel Mobile Internet Class Device as this is an emerging market.
thank you for your time and please please please on behalf of the Dell Venue Intel Mobile Internet Class Device users i beg you not to move our device to the dead section.

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We have a large system update, any info on what it is?
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