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Hey guys,
I know how much noob questions piss everyone off, but I'm really confused after reading the threads about FreeGee, root, JB OTA and N4 conversion. I'm probably getting an AT&T Optimus G in a few weeks, so I need to get this stuff understood. So please, bear with me.
1. Should I update to the JB OTA? That is, if the phone has never been past official LG 4.0.4?
2. What are EFS partitions? I read the thread about how to make backups of them; does this complicate making nandroid backups on the LGOG?
3. How does one use LGNPST? Do I use this instead of normal update method when updating to JB OTA?
4. Is FreeGee revesible? Or is your phone permanently unlocked after using FreeGee?
5. Are there any ROMs that are JB, but can be flashed without updating to official 4.1.2 or unlocking with FreeGee?
Thanks.
1. Should I update to the JB OTA? That is, if the phone has never been past official LG 4.0.4?
No longer have to update to JB OTA. You can just LGNPST the TeenyBin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230994
This is what I did an hour or two right after I got my LGOG lol. Day of.
2. What are EFS partitions? I read the thread about how to make backups of them; does this complicate making nandroid backups on the LGOG?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278873
This is the main use of EFS partitions. People lose GPS from certain roms and backing up a working EFS helps. Nandroid backups are kind of like system restore points in terms of PC. You make a back up, do some new stuff and if it doesn't work, just restore the nandroid backup. Backing up the EFS is just so you don't have to back up the entire thing.
3. How does one use LGNPST? Do I use this instead of normal update method when updating to JB OTA?
Refer to the TeenyBin link I gave above. It has an LGNPST tutorial. It's similar to Odin if you've used a Samsung before.
4. Is FreeGee revesible? Or is your phone permanently unlocked after using FreeGee?
Yep. Basically the freegee app has like two buttons, Unlock and Restore lol. Unlock unlocks the bootloader, and Restore restores it. It's pretty simple, I love it.
5. Are there any ROMs that are JB, but can be flashed without updating to official 4.1.2 or unlocking with FreeGee?
You need an unlocked bootloader to flash roms so you need to be unlocked with FreeGee regardless. As far as having to deal without updating to official, you really just need to LGNPST the TeenyBin and you can flash any of the roms in the Original or Android Development forums.
Cheers.
Your order of business on your phone should be Root, Unlock, TeenyBin, flash whatever rom you feel. Constantly make backups when you know your phone is in perfect working condition before moving on to the next big step.
Just to add to the above post, teenybin unlocks boot loader and installs twrp recovery. No need to root and unlock beforehand. Also relocking a non stock ROM with FreeGee may cause security error soft brick.
Thanks for the quick replies. No offense to my other forummates from the Desire and Defy forums, but I can actually understand everything in the ATT LGOG forum because there aren't any people from Europe and Asia who have to use Google translate.
So just to clarify, I don't actually need to use Freegee, correct? Using the teenybins with LGNPST can unlock my bootloader and solve bootlooping problems, right?
I don't think I'll convert to N4 because there aren't any worthy ROMs for N4 in my opinion (purely my opinion, but there are not even any efforts to get Sense 4+ or 5 going) and CM10.1 which was originally for N4-converted LGOGs has another version for LGOG. It looks like the conversion is hard to reverse anyways...
Once again, thanks guys.
EDIT: oh yeah and one more thing. Can someone grab me a latest version of LGNPST? Apparently 1.3 is really old.
Yes exactly right. I came from Samsung (SGS2) and you know how easy stuff is there to the OG Triple OG and haven't really missed a beat. I used FreeGee myself but that's because I didn't find out about teenybin until a couple days ago.
Anyways you're good to go with what you've been told. Wham bam thank you ma'am.:thumbup:
I'm not sure where to get LGNPST from. Assuming a Google search would probably tell me. In all honesty there's really no need to mess with converting the LGOG to N4.
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Use links and guide in teenybin thread for lgnpst (additional info section).
Hi there, I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to post this.. I'm kind of a noob at this as I have just joined the XDA community.
I have a rooted Verizon LG G3 VS985 running android 5.1.1. Software version VS98535B
I have been recently trying new root apps, but I have noticed that some require busybox. I downloaded the installer, but was hesitant to install because of hearing rumors of soft-bricks and bootloops after installing BusyBox. I am curious if anyone has installed busybox with a similar phone and if they installed BusyBox successfully. I don't know if this a dumb question or not. I am just a bit hesitant to install busybox because my LG G3 is my daily driver, and if it gets screwed up, I'm screwed.
Please help me....
P.S. Sorry again if this is the wrong place to post this thread...
I never had a problem installing it on any device. That said, it's always wise to make a TWRP backup to the MicroSD card before any major changes especially root related.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I never had a problem installing it on any device. That said, it's always wise to make a TWRP backup to the MicroSD card before any major changes especially root related.
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The thing is, I don't want to risk bricking by installing TWRP
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The thing is, I don't want to risk bricking by installing TWRP
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I don't know what to tell you then.
When we root, and what we do with our phones after we root, is not according to how the manufacturer meant for us to use our devices. There's always some chance of something not going according to plan. The chance of that is usually somewhat slim when following (reliable) directions exactly, but there's always going to be a chance. You can brick your device without even rooting. No one can give you any 100% assurances, although some may try, but nothing is ever 100%, you know what I mean?
No matter what you're likely to do, there's hardly any chance that you won't be able to recover your phone. If you have your Android O/S and apps configured just right for you, at least use the built-in LG Backup in Settings/Backup. Backup to MicroSD and copy anything you don't want to lose from your internal storage to your MicroSD card. If you ever have to Factory Reset or reflash the completely stock unrooted ROM in a way that'll cause your internal storage to be wiped, then you'll be happy you made that backup.
There are both unofficial and official tools to recover your phone to complete stock just like from the factory.
If you weren't at least open to some kind of possibility of bricking, you probably wouldn't have rooted to begin with. Or at least, I should say, if you're going to root you have to be prepared for the possibility of things happening in a way you didn't mean to.
Using a custom recovery like TWRP is the easiest way to get your phone back to a known good state while keeping root.
I'm not trying to convince you to put TWRP on your device, but I will always recommend making a backup in TWRP before making major changes. If you don't and things go wrong enough, then you have to accept the fact that you'll effectively do the work you would've had to do to put TWRP on in the first place, to recover your phone to a usable state.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I don't intend it that way.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know what to tell you then.
When we root, and what we do with our phones after we root, is not according to how the manufacturer meant for us to use our devices. There's always some chance of something not going according to plan. The chance of that is usually somewhat slim when following (reliable) directions exactly, but there's always going to be a chance. You can brick your device without even rooting. No one can give you any 100% assurances, although some may try, but nothing is ever 100%, you know what I mean?
No matter what you're likely to do, there's hardly any chance that you won't be able to recover your phone. If you have your Android O/S and apps configured just right for you, at least use the built-in LG Backup in Settings/Backup. Backup to MicroSD and copy anything you don't want to lose from your internal storage to your MicroSD card. If you ever have to Factory Reset or reflash the completely stock unrooted ROM in a way that'll cause your internal storage to be wiped, then you'll be happy you made that backup.
There are both unofficial and official tools to recover your phone to complete stock just like from the factory.
If you weren't at least open to some kind of possibility of bricking, you probably wouldn't have rooted to begin with. Or at least, I should say, if you're going to root you have to be prepared for the possibility of things happening in a way you didn't mean to.
Using a custom recovery like TWRP is the easiest way to get your phone back to a known good state while keeping root.
I'm not trying to convince you to put TWRP on your device, but I will always recommend making a backup in TWRP before making major changes. If you don't and things go wrong enough, then you have to accept the fact that you'll effectively do the work you would've had to do to put TWRP on in the first place, to recover your phone to a usable state.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I don't intend it that way.
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Thank you. It didn't sound like a rant at all, more like an honest answer. Now, my question is.. is TWRP or CWM even compatible with my phone? I've heard rumors of TWRP not working on 35B
zebereeh7 said:
Thank you. It didn't sound like a rant at all, more like an honest answer. Now, my question is.. is TWRP or CWM even compatible with my phone? I've heard rumors of TWRP not working on 35B
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You're welcome!
Yes. As far as I know, TWRP is the only one actively maintained for the VS985. The way I recommend installing it is downgrading to 10B temporarily. Since you're on 35B you'll likely have to use the TOT method with the new .DLL gotten from the 35B KDZ, which you can find toward the bottom of a post in the General section by @hokiealumnus.
There are instructions multiple places, one is here http://lgflashtool.net/index.php/tot-method/, with the exception of using the new .DLL I mentioned instead.
After downgrading to 10B, which will wipe all user data and your internal storage, root with the Stump app, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to install the latest TWRP. Both rooting and putting TWRP get more complicated after 10B.
There may be other ways of getting TWRP working on 35B but this is the way I recommend and in my opinion is most foolproof and easiest.
If you do this just remember that you can use the built in LG Backup on what you have now, then you can restore it when you're back on 35B, or if you choose to flash the 46A ROM.
I'm sure it's possible to put TWRP directly on 35B by flashing the right partitions - the 12B aboot.img (bootloader) and laf.img (Download mode). If you would rather use a terminal emulator with superuser permissions and use the commands and partitions found in @bweN diorD 's stickied thread in the General section, you can go about it that way instead. I copy/paste the commands from a text file. If you type them manually and you type something wrong there's a greater chance something will be flashed wrong.
The way people temporarily brick their device on 35B trying to put TWRP on is using Flashify or TWRP Manager or terminal commands without having downgraded the bootloader and download partitions. Or I've seen users use @bender_007 's autorec TWRP app made for either 23C or 24B on 35B.
The fortune is - it´s easy fixable
I´ll work on one for 35b for sure
Bit of a silly question - I'm still on an old version of Jasmine (4.0, KitKat), and I'm getting the itch to move to xdabbeb's v47a. While I believe I'm fine to simply update my TWRP and go from there with the standard wipe/bootstack/flash, I want to ensure I have all my ducks in a row in case of emergency and I need to drop back to 10B.
I'm aware of the relevant threads that explain the .tot method, but looking through my archives I've discovered that I did a full 10B TWRP nandroid backup (system, boot, data, and efs) immediately after first rooting/installing TWRP a couple of years ago.
So the question is, how "clean" would my restore be going to this backup, vs. going through the full .tot method? Obviously, this wouldn't be true stock as I assume it would retain root and recovery but for the moment I'm not aiming for pristine (ie., warranty return), just clean enough to not affect a new ROM install.
daagar said:
Bit of a silly question - I'm still on an old version of Jasmine (4.0, KitKat), and I'm getting the itch to move to xdabbeb's v47a. While I believe I'm fine to simply update my TWRP and go from there with the standard wipe/bootstack/flash, I want to ensure I have all my ducks in a row in case of emergency and I need to drop back to 10B.
I'm aware of the relevant threads that explain the .tot method, but looking through my archives I've discovered that I did a full 10B TWRP nandroid backup (system, boot, data, and efs) immediately after first rooting/installing TWRP a couple of years ago.
So the question is, how "clean" would my restore be going to this backup, vs. going through the full .tot method? Obviously, this wouldn't be true stock as I assume it would retain root and recovery but for the moment I'm not aiming for pristine (ie., warranty return), just clean enough to not affect a new ROM install.
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Restoring the TWRP backup shouldn't be any cleaner than just updating TWRP, wiping Cache, Dalvik, and Data and flashing @xdabbeb 's 47A firmware ROM and appropriate Bootstack (35B).
Nothing is as clean as actually flashing the TOT. KDZs and TWRP backups don't contain all the partitions that TOTs do. Root is easy to be regained on 10B worth the Stump app and then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to put TWRP on, if you decide to go that route. Root is more complicated after 10B, and putting TWRP on is more complicated after 12B.
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In the future, please post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread.
Thanks, sir. I wasn't sure just how "complete" a TWRP backup was, and that answers it.
Updating TWRP via TWRP Manager was a piece of cake, now I merely have to backup and/or clean up two years worth of apps and crap so I can do this! I truly had no intention of bothering to upgrade again, but your posts and help all over XDA LG G3-land have eased things considerably.
EDIT: Doh, and apologies for misplacing the thread Dangit.
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
jamesvmccann said:
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5
jamesvmccann said:
I am on tmobile lg g5, twrp installed, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running fulmics. I am returning the phone since the gps issues are becoming worse, and it has even started dropping cell service almost hourly which requires me to reboot. Can I completely restore to stock via flashing in twrp? Trying to avoid having to drive somewhere and use LGUP on a windows PC as I don't own one. Will the bootloader automatically relock if I flash the stock rom without flashing SU along with it? Appreciate any help.
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Ok. If you're wanting to do 100% stock, download the complete zip for 20c from http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5/H830/H83020c/LG-H83020c-Flashable.COMPLETE-ARB01.zip there. Put it on your extsd card. Backup everything that is on your internal sd (phone memory) like pictures, videos, SMS, etc. Once you've done that, boot to TWRP. Once in TWRP wipe everything except externalsd card, I also recommend using the format option to format the internal sd. Once you've wiped and preferably formatted data go to install and install the 20c complete zip you put on your extsd card. After it's done installing just reboot. This will overwrite TWRP and you will NOT have root. Your bootloader will still be unlocked though, so you still need a PC to relock your bootloader. Also I don't think encryption will be re enabled unless you flash the kdz though. Anyways that's your best way to return to stock without using PC.
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There are stock ROMs (H83020a and H83020c) available to flash from twrp. You will not lock your bootloader nor lose twrp; but in order to get root again(in case you want), you will need to flash su. It worked for me perfectly and I have no issues with anything on my phone. The only thing that does not work (check screenshot for details) is google pay because since the phone is rooted "it does not meet the google's security standards." Now if you want to return the phone to factory state I believe there are threads here for that. If you still want to keep the phone just flash the appropriate zip and enjoy removing tmobile bloatware if you wish.
LG G5 Downloads:
Important!!!Do not flash H83010a. I read that it can brick your phone.
TMobile model is H830.
Android 6.0.1 is H83010i
Android 7.0 is H83020a and the latest version is H83020c. Find the zip of your choice.
http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G5
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Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
Sent from my LGE LG-H830 using XDA Labs
Nick216ohio said:
Just curious what type of brick? Hard or soft? Just wanna know for future safety
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I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
Update:
I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505
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I don't remember very well; but I believe it's hard brick. When I was researching to root my phone y read that somewhere, maybe here. I'll try to find the info on my PC when I get home.
Update:
I found the link. The advice is in the FAQ. Not sure if that would happen in your case since you have a custom ROM. The danger is when downgrading from H83010D to H83010A.
Here is the link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-10d-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3406505
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Thanks bro. I totally believe it because past phones had exact issue.
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Just for clarification, if you're on Android 7, you can not downgrade to Android 6 without first downgrading your bootloader as it won't flash correctly. Also just something to always keep in mind with LG phone's at least, is that LG uses a antirollback system. Never attempt to downgrade from a higher ARB # to a lower ARB #, if you're somehow successful it will lead to a hard brick. Every firmware that autoprime has posted states what antirollback number it is on, so always check that. On h830, every firmware since 10D has been ARB01, only 10A or earlier was ARB0. While lgup shouldn't allow you to flash (should error out), no reason to take that chance. Hopefully that helps clarify
Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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I am just getting back to messing around with phones after about 5 years. So many things have changed and I am trying to get answers here as well.
I used TWRP and Magisk to root my phone. Installing TWRP will not wipe your data as it is flashed to a different partition but to install TWRP you have to unlock the bootloader and that will wipe your userdata. And no, I don't believe there is any possibility of rooting without unlocking the bootloader. If you decide you want to go back to stock, there are stock roms available and you can re-lock the bootloader on the N10 so you should be able to set it back to just like it was when you first bought it. I say should because I have never done it, just read that it can be done when I unlocked and flashed mine.
I wish I could be of more help but so many things have changed in the years since I've been away from doing this stuff I feel like a total noob again.
animenote said:
Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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No I do not believe there's a way to gain root without flashing anything. There's no need to backup anything you can always use the MSM download tool to restore your device. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...l-to-restore-your-device-to-oxygenos.4204445/ You should be able to find most of the stock imgs on here already if you'd really need to flash back. I'm no expert either, just my experience with this phone in particular has been pretty straightforward. I never backed up anything lol.
Twrp is iffy i made a backup I'll never use, check out the post about flashing international rom to tmo and metro devices, that's my backup. Also you can run 11.0.3/2 firmware and boot 11 gsi's the post about lir rom has the info. Flash the product_gsi.img referenced there, I have never deleted my product partition and I only leave oos ten installed long enough to take ota's. There are more roms in the source forge page referenced with lir rom post. Flash magisk via recovery, either side load or twrp, pay attention that it flashes partition sda14(super image) or wifi breaks.