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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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connordroid said:
Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
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I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
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I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
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thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
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I'm still using an htc inspire, and I've tried att latest and greatest like the note and one x and they haven't been perfect or lack of Rom support that made me run. I just want to be able to flash cm 7 or 9 roms, any other roms I may wish and this att device dev support seems to be going strong. This device is probably considered older now and with the sgs3 coming soon, well by the time it reaches att who knows. Does this device lag with its older processor??
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I'm still using an htc inspire, and I've tried att latest and greatest like the note and one x and they haven't been perfect or lack of Rom support that made me run. I just want to be able to flash cm 7 or 9 roms, any other roms I may wish and this att device dev support seems to be going strong. This device is probably considered older now and with the sgs3 coming soon, well by the time it reaches att who knows. Does this device lag with its older processor??
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One word. Yes.
The device is amazing, I highly reccomend.
What answer do you really expect us to give you other than "yes"? Do you really think people in this forum is going to tell you no? Sounds to me like you already made up your mind to get this phone if you didnt like the Note or the OneX.
How about bln support, is that compatible with most roms? Say cm custom builds whether built in or not?
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What answer do you really expect us to give you other than "yes"? Do you really think people in this forum is going to tell you no? Sounds to me like you already made up your mind to get this phone if you didnt like the Note or the OneX.
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Well people here could also say,just wait for the sgs3....etc etc...just curious to see if it's still highly recommended at this point.
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I'm still using an htc inspire, and I've tried att latest and greatest like the note and one x and they haven't been perfect or lack of Rom support that made me run. I just want to be able to flash cm 7 or 9 roms, any other roms I may wish and this att device dev support seems to be going strong. This device is probably considered older now and with the sgs3 coming soon, well by the time it reaches att who knows. Does this device lag with its older processor??
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I would absolutely recommend this device. It may be considered last year's technology, but the dual core Exynos is still a great processor. The phone doesn't lag on stock firmware, and on the better custom firmwares, it flies. Rom support is unparalleled for a US based phone, partially because of the commonality between the i777 and the international i9100.
It is true that the S3 is on the horizon, but I would honestly rather have my S2 than that monstrosity.
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How about bln support, is that compatible with most roms? Say cm custom builds whether built in or not?
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Sort of. I'm running AOKP right now, which is a purely Google-based rom, and BLN works flawlessly for me(with the right kernel, of course). However, if you run a Samsung based rom, BLN will not natively work for SMS messages. There are workarounds using Tasker profiles, but theyre usually pretty sketchy. Short answer...yes, if you're running the right rom and kernel, BLN is supported.
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How about bln support, is that compatible with most roms? Say cm custom builds whether built in or not?
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Depends on the rom and kernel... But really, is BLN going to make or break your decision?
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Depends on the rom and kernel... But really, is BLN going to make or break your decision?
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Not a deal breaker but a handy feature when you lack an led notification light, I'm using the BlackICE Rom which uses it.
@mattdm that is a good point,dev support seems huge compared to other att android devices.
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Depends on the rom and kernel... But really, is BLN going to make or break your decision?
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BLN can be pretty important to some people. I came from a BlackBerry, so it's almost essential to me to be able to see if I have a text from across the room.
Yes, I still like this phone. Hell the original Galaxy S is still going strong development wise and this one should do the same.
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BLN can be pretty important to some people. I came from a BlackBerry, so it's almost essential to me to be able to see if I have a text from across the room.
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Agreed, that's the only thing I miss from my blackberry
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Red5 said:
What answer do you really expect us to give you other than "yes"? Do you really think people in this forum is going to tell you no? Sounds to me like you already made up your mind to get this phone if you didnt like the Note or the OneX.
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Btw, you seem to have a one x as well. What do you think when compared to your sgs2?
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Agreed, that's the only thing I miss from my blackberry
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I miss the keyboard too. It was the one thing that made me choose a BlackBerry over an iPhone four years ago. I still hate the iPhone keyboard because of the lack of haptic feedback and the complete lack of customization options. Android is better though...with so many options for keyboards and setups, it almost makes up for not having physically keys...but I still miss them occasionally.
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Btw, you seem to have a one x as well. What do you think when compared to your sgs2?
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Honestly? Out of the box, the OneX works great. Even though the bootloader is currently locked, the phone works just fine the way it is and nothing really needs to be added to it. However, the OneX does have root and so you can install customs roms, just nor kernels or radios. Several tweaks, mods and roms have been created and flashes successfully.
On the flipside, the GSII is completely unlocked and there are several rom/kernel choices. There is some of the best Dev work done on XDA right here in this forum, so if your really interested in Dev support and choices, this is the phone to get.
Both phones are great. You just have to look at hardware specs, Dev support and see which road you want to take.
A yes from me as well.
For future, up-coming device such sgs3, if it will be released next week or two, then it might worth waiting but in this case, just a rumor, no officially released date yet, it could be months from now and even if released, what happen if it gets locked bootloader? It's not worth waiting if you're ROM-flashaholics.
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A yes from me as well.
For future, up-coming device such sgs3, if it will be released next week or two, then it might worth waiting but in this case, just a rumor, no officially released date yet, it could be months from now and even if released, what happen if it gets locked bootloader? It's not worth waiting if you're ROM-flashaholics.
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Take a look through this thread. No locked bootloaders. I think the dev support on the S3 is going to be huge.
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Take a look through this thread. No locked bootloaders. I think the dev support on the S3 is going to be huge.
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Oh geez, I'm so behind, honestly I don't have time looking elsewhere but the i777 , thanks m8
I picked up the SGSII a month ago and absolutely love it. A huge upgrade from the previous generation (captivate).
I suspect that, much like desktop computers, going from one to two cores is significant, but you get diminishing returns after that.
Only downside is if you want true 4G. I spend so much time with wifi that I don't care.
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Honestly? Out of the box, the OneX works great. Even though the bootloader is currently locked, the phone works just fine the way it is and nothing really needs to be added to it. However, the OneX does have root and so you can install customs roms, just nor kernels or radios. Several tweaks, mods and roms have been created and flashes successfully.
On the flipside, the GSII is completely unlocked and there are several rom/kernel choices. There is some of the best Dev work done on XDA right here in this forum, so if your really interested in Dev support and choices, this is the phone to get.
Both phones are great. You just have to look at hardware specs, Dev support and see which road you want to take.
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I'm definitely taking the dev support road. Thanks.
One of my last concerns is battery life. More of it having to do with charging time. I think I remember with the stock Rom charging times were slow from a wall charger if I remember reading this. Have charging times improved with custom roms/kernels?
I think Samsung devices in general have a bad rep with charging times?
I haven't seen any issues with charge times, but my expectations may be low. I have not timed it, but I would estimate under 3 hours to charge from less than 20% to full.
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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So your asking about root on a phone you may own 11 months from now?
lol right now i understand why people get so frustrated on here why u askin questions about it if u aint getting it until next year lol
surely this had to be a Typo...{Handing you the Benefit of the doubt}
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Lay off the kid!!!! Yes it has full root now.
How to root and yes its very easy
Rooted!
Thanks, that was easy. I just wanted wifi tether, so this is perfect
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Yes it has root. However, we do not currently have S-Off for the phones. Hopefully that will come pretty soon. And I am optimistic that it will be available by next April.
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lol right now i understand why people get so frustrated on here why u askin questions about it if u aint getting it until next year lol
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Actually, I get frustrated by people who have no clue what punctuation is and completely butcher the English language while simultaneously flaming another user about his/her ridiculousness. He may not be getting the phone for almost a year but his post, unlike yours, is still a valid one.
Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Youre welcome Dont forget to hit the "Thanks" button at the bottom of our posts.
oops.....oh yea ........ my bad I totally forgot (again) doing it now
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Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Don't mind the people who want to flame others. Some people just can't help flaming others for something they do not understand or agree with.
If you have a question just type it in the search bar at the top of the forum to see if someone else has already asked, and subsequently received an answer. If you don't find anything there that fits your specific situation then don't be afraid to start a new thread. If you do find an answer that works for you, even if it is within someone else's thread, then be sure to hit the thanks button at the bottom of that person's post.
Now THAT feature of the search bar I didn't know, but being on an Epic currently I haven't had to use that since Uber taught me how to root an epic LOL.
I watched the root videos on the HTC and apparently I won't be needing odin anymore when I upgrade, but since I don't have one yet I do have to ask, at all stock is that thing as good as what I read it is? I know the main reason I root is to have control of my phone, and add and remove junk apps and Sprint bloat ware that runs down the battery.
Also around here the only place that has 34g is a one block section in one part of the city and I think the courthouse has 4g, dunno I can't legally use a phone in there LOL. So after I root I'll be asking you guys what rom is best, I knwo better than to ask now cause somebody is currently making one that isn't out yet.
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Now THAT feature of the search bar I didn't know, but being on an Epic currently I haven't had to use that since Uber taught me how to root an epic LOL.
I watched the root videos on the HTC and apparently I won't be needing odin anymore when I upgrade, but since I don't have one yet I do have to ask, at all stock is that thing as good as what I read it is? I know the main reason I root is to have control of my phone, and add and remove junk apps and Sprint bloat ware that runs down the battery.
Also around here the only place that has 34g is a one block section in one part of the city and I think the courthouse has 4g, dunno I can't legally use a phone in there LOL. So after I root I'll be asking you guys what rom is best, I knwo better than to ask now cause somebody is currently making one that isn't out yet.
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By the time you have an upgrade there will be a better phone out I'm sure. But if you want a sweet phone with a ton of development on it, this will be the phone to get once you upgrade. My suggestion is to follow root instructions word for word when you do it, that way you don't mess up your phone. Good luck...in the future. Lol
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Thats what I hate about this world, At first I got the Samsung Moment, well when I got that there were 5 different kernels and so many roms I couldn't count them all LOL, So I FINALLY upgrade to an Epic, the first thing I have trouble with is deciding which Kernel I want to use and what rom will go best with it LOL.
When I upgrade I hope this one is still being produced cause by then you guys will probably have windows Vista ported over to it, and I have gotten used to having a variety of stuff to choose from to put on my phone
I would just go with whatever phone is newest then... not what's out right now. For all you know the next galaxy phone will be out. I know for sure the next nexus devices will be out and they will be better than this phone because they will be newer.
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Not necessarily I have YET to have a Samsung that works right without being rooted, Maybe its just me, but something just doesn't seem right with Samsung phones.
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Not necessarily I have YET to have a Samsung that works right without being rooted, Maybe its just me, but something just doesn't seem right with Samsung phones.
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Um, the nexus is not running toichwiz. It runs stock android. Will have faster upgrades and will work fine unrooted. My nexus right now would work fine unrooted but I don't like how stock looks. That's why I'm a themer . Trust me, the next nexus will be your phone if you don't like Samsung touchwiz. It will be your best bet of an upgrade. IMO however its your money and your choice I just thought I'd help you make the smarter decision.
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Really a Nexus works? THAT I( never knew, as for touchwiz....not me I'm more a Go launcher guy, I like the stock Gingerbread look , but Emotionless beast is pretty cool too. But my wife and youngest both have evo3d's and even unrooted those work as fast as my epic rooted.
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Really a Nexus works? THAT I( never knew, as for touchwiz....not me I'm more a Go launcher guy, I like the stock Gingerbread look , but Emotionless beast is pretty cool too. But my wife and youngest both have evo3d's and even unrooted those work as fast as my epic rooted.
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LOL, you know that GO launcher works like CIQ right? It collects way more data than it needs to. Also stock android 4.0.4 is just as nice and sleek as stock android 2.3.7 like on older nexus devices. Its the same deal just upgraded. Yeah evo3d's are a disgrace... IMO but some people liked them. Like i said if you looking for a great stock non bloated phone right out of the box a nexus device is for you. There has been word that nexus's next year might be manufactored by multiple companies and not just Samsung. So if you really need an HTC this will be the best of both worlds. Im just saying, dont make your decision so soon especially since this phone will be old by the time your upgrade comes....
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
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yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
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Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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akarol said:
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.
I'll probably be replacing the Rezound this year and, since I'm not "in the know" on a lot of phones out there maybe you can help me pick a good replacement. I'm on Verizon and plan to root the phone and install custom ROMs. I like the HTC One and HTC One Max (mostly for the removable SD). The Samsung Galaxy 4 looks alright, but I'd definitely have to wipe that thing...can't stand the Samsung interface and crapware.
Anyway, please tell me what phone(s) you would upgrade to from the Rezound and why. Thanks.
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I'll probably be replacing the Rezound this year and, since I'm not "in the know" on a lot of phones out there maybe you can help me pick a good replacement. I'm on Verizon and plan to root the phone and install custom ROMs. I like the HTC One and HTC One Max (mostly for the removable SD). The Samsung Galaxy 4 looks alright, but I'd definitely have to wipe that thing...can't stand the Samsung interface and crapware.
Anyway, please tell me what phone(s) you would upgrade to from the Rezound and why. Thanks.
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Right now the only phone I would go with is the LG G2. Decent size, amazing battery life, minimal skin... It is my #1 choice right now.
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Right now the only phone I would go with is the LG G2. Decent size, amazing battery life, minimal skin... It is my #1 choice right now.
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Hmmm...hadn't considered that one. Just compared it to HTC One and Galaxy S4 at VZW and I'd say I'll have to seriously consider the G2. Thanks! Any idea if there is a lot of ROM development for it? I'm on Tachyon on the Rezound and love it. Anything like that for the G2?
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Hmmm...hadn't considered that one. Just compared it to HTC One and Galaxy S4 at VZW and I'd say I'll have to seriously consider the G2. Thanks! Any idea if there is a lot of ROM development for it? I'm on Tachyon on the Rezound and love it. Anything like that for the G2?
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Yeah, lots of ROMs, LOTS, and many devs have moved to it (I see @Snuzzo just mentioned he is getting the G2 very soon for one). I am up for new work phone Monday, pretty sure I'm getting the G2 next week as well.
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Just a question. With the lg g2. I've had my eye on it. I see with Verizon you get that crappy locked bootloader like every single other device on Verizon.... -,,,- but with that locked boot loader I've seen people say easy to unlock, not easy to unlock. Simple to add twrp. Pain in the butt to add it. I've read a lot on it. But cant seem to figure out :$ I see there's the Loki flash tool which is supposed to supposedly help "bypass" or help unlock the phones boot loader? Still very confused on that. As I said I've looked j to the g2 whenever I upgrade.... Although going to keep the Rezound and just flash stuff like crazy on it but with the rooting usually don't root my phones till latter (my means of root means going all the way with everything.....) I mean yeah just adding su is all fine and dandy. But I usually don't root and add twrp and a custom ROM till a year- year and a half or completely getting tired of it. Because after getting a phone because I have terrible luck with electronics sometimes..... I end up screwing up and having to get either a new one. Or get it fixed. Almost all the time. Soooo...... Any ideas on that? Sorry for the long drawn out question..... :$ and kinda being off topic :$
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Loki is a patch exploit to flash a custom kernel and recovery. The G2 can be downgraded firmware/rom-wise, so even if VZW patches it there will always be a way to root/flash.
Thanks for explaining that. I was a little confused. Makes sense of all of what I've read now. Thanks @Snuzzo
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