[Q] Utilizing Android device w/o a Google account - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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Hello:
I currently am a BlackBerry user (9930 and Playbook). My carrier, Sprint, has not provided a viable upgrade path for me, so I am looking into alternatives to BlackBerry. The upcoming HTC One has my attention and I am hoping to answer a few questions about my ability to use an Android phone while maintaining local control over my PIM data. I should stress here that I am at the very beginning of my exploration of Android OS, so hopefully you can tolerate what I expect will be some basic questions.
1) Is it possible to fully use the phone while preventing it from storing my PIM data on Google's servers?
-- My understanding is that you must create, or link to, a gmail account in order to access the Google Play store (and possibly do other things on the phone). Doing so creates a means for Google to back up your calendar, email and potentially other data to its servers. If I must establish a Gmail account, then can I do so strictly as a means to access the Play Store, while preventing the non-Gmail email accounts (and their associated calendars) that I will actively be using, from getting backed up to the cloud, but still enabling those (non-Gmail) accounts to automatically pull down mail periodically?
2) Can direct, local syncs between the phone and MS Outlook on my computer be performed (via wifi/ bluetooth/ USB)?
3) Does the native calendar app accept and properly process incoming iCal invites (especially those which would be sent by a BlackBerry), and can invites for events be sent from the calendar when the events are created?
4) Assuming I can get away with not registering a Gmail account, what are some of the best non-Play Store options for obtaining apps?
Thank you

Updates to my questions from earlier: From reading I have done, it appears that I can avoid having my calendar and contacts data synced to Google, by simply turning that (sync) feature off, and not establishing a Gmail account. Also, there are options like the Amazon App Store, Getjar and Aptoide from which I can obtain apps without needing a Google account.
What remains unclear is whether I can set up a non-Gmail account to automatically pull down mail on a schedule, when I have Google sync turned off (in other words, are the sync settings "one size fits all" or can sync settings be different for various accounts).
What I am also a little fuzzy about is whether the native email client is vendor agnostic, or somehow tied into Google. This relates to my question about turning off "Google sync"
Bottom line: if I do not establish a Google account for the phone, am I safe from having email, calendar and contact info uploaded to Google servers?
GuerillaMoves said:
MODS: I realized this is in the wrong forum. Please move as necessary, thanks
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Hello:
I currently am a BlackBerry user (9930 and Playbook). My carrier, Sprint, has not provided a viable upgrade path for me, so I am looking into alternatives to BlackBerry. The upcoming HTC One has my attention and I am hoping to answer a few questions about my ability to use an Android phone while maintaining local control over my PIM data. I should stress here that I am at the very beginning of my exploration of Android OS, so hopefully you can tolerate what I expect will be some basic questions.
1) Is it possible to fully use the phone while preventing it from storing my PIM data on Google's servers?
-- My understanding is that you must create, or link to, a gmail account in order to access the Google Play store (and possibly do other things on the phone). Doing so creates a means for Google to back up your calendar, email and potentially other data to its servers. If I must establish a Gmail account, then can I do so strictly as a means to access the Play Store, while preventing the non-Gmail email accounts (and their associated calendars) that I will actively be using, from getting backed up to the cloud, but still enabling those (non-Gmail) accounts to automatically pull down mail periodically?
2) Can direct, local syncs between the phone and MS Outlook on my computer be performed (via wifi/ bluetooth/ USB)?
3) Does the native calendar app accept and properly process incoming iCal invites (especially those which would be sent by a BlackBerry), and can invites for events be sent from the calendar when the events are created?
4) Assuming I can get away with not registering a Gmail account, what are some of the best non-Play Store options for obtaining apps?
Thank you
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[Q] Exchange and Google

Please can anyone help, I have just changed from a HTC Desire to a Galaxy S2. I use Exchange server email, syncing Email,Contacts and calendar. Yesterday I put a new appiontment in the calendar and it never appeared on my PC Outlook account. After having a good look I noticed that in the calendar it has a G (for Google) next to the entry.
Please can anyone let me know how to stop anything to do with Contacts,Email and calendar going to Google.
I know I have to have a Google account for the Market, but that is the only reason I wish to use it, and even then I have google mail redirected automaticaly to my Outlook account.
Thanks
Sam
In fact things are worse than I thought, I turn off the Google Calendar and enter an appiontment it does not appear! However if I turn on the Google calendar it does!!!!
Please please let me know how to have only Exchnage as my primary source of Calendar!
When you create a task or an appointment on the phone, it should ask you where you want to create it - be sure to select your Exchange account.
Personally, in a similar position to you, I chose to pay for Touchdown for Exchange. There is a free trial so you'll get the chance to test it thoroughly. You have to keep some elements syncing with the default client in the background - contacts, if memory serves - but you can set Touchdown to be the default for calendar, email, tasks, etc, so it is a pretty seamless experience. I'd recommend it.
Thanks Gustopher, prblem sorted and will try Touchdown
Sam

[Q] Syncing multiple Exchange calendars

Does anyone know way to sync multiple calendars on one MS Exchange account?
I have couple of calendars (personal and for work) on my Exchange account. After I add the exchange account from settings it only shows the "main" calendar on my account. I'm using the Samsung EMAIL app that came with the phone.
Tried searching google but no avail. So I wonder if this is possible with the default app or some other app?
i would like to know the answer as well, i am looking for the same solution. any help would be appreciated
+1. I think I could probably sync my hotmail calendar with my Gmail calendar as a workaround to get my secondary calendar to my phone, but on all my Moto droids, I always had the option to sync all of my corporate & hotmail activesync calendars - not just the primary calendar. On the GS3, I only have an option to sync the primary calendar.
+1. Just can't believe how bad the Exchange (or ActiveSync) sync support is, even with 4.1 (JellyBean).
One idea: with OWA, you can "publish" each of your calendars with an URL ending in .ics. However, I have not found an app yet that successfully subscribes to that ical-Files. With other systems, it is easily possible to use those .ics URLs...
the RAZR supposedly has a better Exchange support. Can someone port that?
one workaround for the multiple calendar sync from Exchange:
1. in Outlook Web Access (OWA) goto Calendars. Share your desired Calendar(s) to the Internet (but not publically)
2. Install the app ICSSYNC
3. feed the URL(s) from the shared-OWA-calendar to ICSSYNC.
Done. Nuff said.
parkhaus said:
one workaround for the multiple calendar sync from Exchange:
1. in Outlook Web Access (OWA) goto Calendars. Share your desired Calendar(s) to the Internet (but not publically)
2. Install the app ICSSYNC
3. feed the URL(s) from the shared-OWA-calendar to ICSSYNC.
Done. Nuff said.
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This is only an option if your Exchange Admin will allow calendars to be shared. Is there another option? What amazes me is that iOS handled this without any issues for the past few years, but somehow, this has not made it in to Android yet? It makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
I've got two Exchange accounts set up and working on my SGS3. Everything syncs as it should, though I had to add them twice to get them working.
JB isn't impressing me much so far - slow, buggy, drains the battery, has wifi issues, crashes without any apparent reason every now and then... but Exchange sync works (for now, at least).
Unfortunately, this is not implemented in Android: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=52270. Vote for the issue!
Another option is to load the app Touchdown by Nitrodesk. I am syncing multiple outlook calendars using it.
Joe
parkhaus said:
one workaround for the multiple calendar sync from Exchange:
1. in Outlook Web Access (OWA) goto Calendars. Share your desired Calendar(s) to the Internet (but not publically)
2. Install the app ICSSYNC
3. feed the URL(s) from the shared-OWA-calendar to ICSSYNC.
Done. Nuff said.
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There is another workaround which I have not tested yet.
It is from the code.google.com bugtracker above:
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Use outlook.com app.
The Outlook.com app does sync the calendars but it does nothing for tasks. I have tasks assigned to two calendars in the same account. Calendars sync but tasks do not. In fact no tasks are synced with this method. It must be just pure calendar functionality.
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Give it a try guys. I am pretty sure Android 4.3 won't be better in terms of Exchange calendar and tasks support!
To sync all of the calendars in your Exchange-type account, you have to use CALDAV (what iPhone uses as a successful workaround to Microsoft's bloaty-buggy ActiveSync which is what Android uses)
CalDAV-Sync Beta is one such CALDAV enabler. It will sync all of your calendars to the default calendar app. There are other CALDAV apps, but I have not used them.
You will almost certainly have to ask your IT rep what the correct URL is for your CALDAV access.
You'll have to add shared calendars using yet another URL, which will be unique to your installation. Ask your IT rep what the URL is.
This way, you can avoid paying Microsoft for an ActiveSync license. That's $3 / seat this year. In other words, Apple provides a better sync experience by going the cheap route (and avoiding Microsoft's trash).
For Kerio email servers, the shared calendar URL is https://domainname.com/caldav/users/domainname.com/user-name/
for resource calendars it's:
https://domainname.com/caldav/users/domainname.com/resourcename
and for all of YOUR calendars:
https://domainname.com/caldav
Those are kinda standard URLs...
You can find domainname.com by looking up your MX records in DNS.
To set up an Android device the same way that iOS devices do "Sync":
1. Set up email using IMAP (not "Exchange")
2. Set up calendar sync using CALDAV
3. Set up Contact sync using CARDDAV
I'm kind of surprised that no one has created an account settings app that sets those up for you... It is certainly possible to do this in software.
What you gain by going w/ the Apple method: multiple calendar sync + multiple contact folder sync.
What you lose: Tasks, Notes, and Categories.
Things might have changed with android 4.4: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/android-4-4-now-can-sync-multiple-calendars-via-activesync/
Does rooting give me any access to be able to sync multiple calendars?
multiple Exchange calendars under 4.4?
How is it with multiple Exchange calendars under 4.4?
I tried to use them on my Note2 with 4.4, but it looks like it does not work.
Even with Android 6.0, there doesn't seem to be multiple calendar support using Outlook.com/EAS. Meanwhile, iOS and, of course, Windows Phone handle them just fine without using third-party apps.
My Note 3 with cyanogenmod 12.1 / android 6.01 does sync all my exchange calendars. I used open gapps, and that came with Google Exchange Services 6.4.123892212.
I also have a brand new Huawei 7 Lite with Android 6.0. I installed Google Calendar on this one, and only the main calendar is synced. I installed the same Google Exchange Services version via APK, to no avail. Only the main calendar is visible.
What other components are there that are involved?
Sorry for the necroupping

GMAIL and MS Exchange simultaneously sync

Hello guys,
I have a common quesiton about synchronising my gmail and Exchange (work) account with my HTC Desire HD Android Version 2.3.5
At the moment I synchronise my gmail accoutn with mail, calender, tasks and phone directory.
For future use I want to synchronise with Exchange from work, even the same functions like gmail.
For gmail I use the given gmail-mail program which is implemented with Android.
For Exchange I'd like to use the "Mail" function which is also a standard tool from Android.
My question:
1. I've seen that there is the possibility to show or not show different calenders, phone books etc. When I creat the Exchange additionally to the gmail account, is there a complete new calender built with the Exchange rules or does it use my gmail calender? The same for phone directory.
I want to avoid that the two accounts will be fully mashed in the future. So, if I quit my workplace I want to delete the Exchange account and all work information will be lost but not my personal gmail account, settings and personal data like calender, phone directory etc.
2. Is the Exchange completely separated to the gmail account?
I'm a littel bit frightend to configure the Exchange accoutn because I don' want to mix up the two accounts.
I hope I wrote it in a understandable way and not redundant to an existing article.
Thanks a lot and regards
The email app and the gmail app are different, are independent one of the other. You'll have no problem, nor with the contacts.
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thanks a lot for your support.
Cheers
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Multiple Accounts?

So since the latest google voice update, instead of selecting a different account for google voice, it now forces you to add the account. Now i'm wondering a) am i the only one sharing a google voice mailbox between 2 phones and b) should i perhaps go to a multi-account setup?
pre update:
my wife had a google account and used my google voice account
i had my own google account, so anytime a message was left for either of us, no matter who's phone we had we could get the message. Now if i had my account to her phone she also gets my gtalk, gmail, etc, unless i set them not to sync, but it's very easy to accidentally start gtalk with the wrong id, etc. It got me thinking, maybe I should create a new gmail account for things we like to mutually have i.e. a voice mail box , calendar and contacts and then we each have our own accounts for gmail, gtalk, etc
Having never used 2 accounts on one phone will this be pretty seamless? Anyone using this method? Anyone have ideas what some of the problems might be with this issue?

Android 5.1.1 Yahoo! Mail IMAP security problem with Gmail

Hi everyone. I have a very, very strange problem.
1) I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 running CyanogenMod 12.1, nightly 12.1-20150915-nightly-klte.
2) I have Android 5.1.1, therefore.
3) I use Gmail, and Yahoo! Mail.
4) My Yahoo! Mail account is accesssed via IMAP, but, weirdly, it appears with the Gmail accounts rather than in a freestanding Email account. I can't remember how I added it, but this is probably "deliberate" (I had more difficult fish to fry at the time!).
5) I changed my password for Yahoo! Mail at least twice on a completely different, and free-standing machine. I had to re-type the password in order to get back in on all other machines (e.g. browser access)
6) Despite this, the Gmail app on my Samsung S5 merrily continues to be able to access my Yahoo! account, even though there is no way it knows the password!!
7) This sounds like it should be impossible. Is it something to do with the frequency with which Yahoo! update IMAP passwords (i.e. maybe they only do it overnight) and so I have to wait 24 hours before my Gmail account / my Samsung s5 is blocked access?
8) When I log into Gmail online I see no evidence of any link to Yahoo!
9)The only clue I have is that when I go to CyanogenMod Accounts, I am not permitted to change the Yahoo! password (it says "Signed in with Yahoo!" and offers no password option in Accounts Settings >> [My Yahoo Account] >> Server Settings > Incoming Mail. The server is stated to be android.imap.mail.yahoo.com
Please help!
BlameTheMachines said:
Hi everyone. I have a very, very strange problem.
1) I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 running CyanogenMod 12.1, nightly 12.1-20150915-nightly-klte.
2) I have Android 5.1.1, therefore.
3) I use Gmail, and Yahoo! Mail.
4) My Yahoo! Mail account is accesssed via IMAP, but, weirdly, it appears with the Gmail accounts rather than in a freestanding Email account. I can't remember how I added it, but this is probably "deliberate" (I had more difficult fish to fry at the time!).
5) I changed my password for Yahoo! Mail at least twice on a completely different, and free-standing machine. I had to re-type the password in order to get back in on all other machines (e.g. browser access)
6) Despite this, the Gmail app on my Samsung S5 merrily continues to be able to access my Yahoo! account, even though there is no way it knows the password!!
7) This sounds like it should be impossible. Is it something to do with the frequency with which Yahoo! update IMAP passwords (i.e. maybe they only do it overnight) and so I have to wait 24 hours before my Gmail account / my Samsung s5 is blocked access?
8) When I log into Gmail online I see no evidence of any link to Yahoo!
9)The only clue I have is that when I go to CyanogenMod Accounts, I am not permitted to change the Yahoo! password (it says "Signed in with Yahoo!" and offers no password option in Accounts Settings >> [My Yahoo Account] >> Server Settings > Incoming Mail. The server is stated to be android.imap.mail.yahoo.com
Please help!
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I just tried the same thing on a near identically-configured Samsung s3 running CyanogenMod 12.1 and it gives me the option to type a password in in the Incoming email settings, so perhaps it is a feature of the version of CyanogenMod / Android 5.1.1 I am running on the S5?
Fascinating. It is a breach of Yahoo security though - I had to retype the password on the S3, and then it worked!
The S5 just accesses the Yahoo! Mail anyway (and refuses to let you type the password in, even though it has changed - see above).
Surely this exploses a big hole in Yahoo mail's security - no-one should be able to access Yahoo! Mail without a password, yet this configuration on the S5 can!
I have the answer! It is explained fully here on Yahoo! Answers: https://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20151101043604AAIClm6&ap=0&ans_success=1 (by me). Summary: -The problem is that Yahoo! Mail disabled any ability to click-through, in the Account Info screen, to "Manage App and Website Connections". Only there can you prevent the Gmail App in Android from accessing Yahoo! Mail via IMAP. The Gmail App is able to access Yahoo! Mail irrespective of whether or not you have changed the password. The solution is to use the link in your original email from Yahoo to access this, now hidden, page and then de-authorise Gmail if your phone is, for example, stolen.
Given that it took me over a month to find an answer, I hope that this summary will help someone else out in my predicament in the future. Do post and let me know if it has helped you - it will make me feel all warm and fuzzy!
BlameTheMachines
Yahoo mail access from an android email client app
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