Hi everyone. I have a very, very strange problem.
1) I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 running CyanogenMod 12.1, nightly 12.1-20150915-nightly-klte.
2) I have Android 5.1.1, therefore.
3) I use Gmail, and Yahoo! Mail.
4) My Yahoo! Mail account is accesssed via IMAP, but, weirdly, it appears with the Gmail accounts rather than in a freestanding Email account. I can't remember how I added it, but this is probably "deliberate" (I had more difficult fish to fry at the time!).
5) I changed my password for Yahoo! Mail at least twice on a completely different, and free-standing machine. I had to re-type the password in order to get back in on all other machines (e.g. browser access)
6) Despite this, the Gmail app on my Samsung S5 merrily continues to be able to access my Yahoo! account, even though there is no way it knows the password!!
7) This sounds like it should be impossible. Is it something to do with the frequency with which Yahoo! update IMAP passwords (i.e. maybe they only do it overnight) and so I have to wait 24 hours before my Gmail account / my Samsung s5 is blocked access?
8) When I log into Gmail online I see no evidence of any link to Yahoo!
9)The only clue I have is that when I go to CyanogenMod Accounts, I am not permitted to change the Yahoo! password (it says "Signed in with Yahoo!" and offers no password option in Accounts Settings >> [My Yahoo Account] >> Server Settings > Incoming Mail. The server is stated to be android.imap.mail.yahoo.com
Please help!
BlameTheMachines said:
Hi everyone. I have a very, very strange problem.
1) I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 running CyanogenMod 12.1, nightly 12.1-20150915-nightly-klte.
2) I have Android 5.1.1, therefore.
3) I use Gmail, and Yahoo! Mail.
4) My Yahoo! Mail account is accesssed via IMAP, but, weirdly, it appears with the Gmail accounts rather than in a freestanding Email account. I can't remember how I added it, but this is probably "deliberate" (I had more difficult fish to fry at the time!).
5) I changed my password for Yahoo! Mail at least twice on a completely different, and free-standing machine. I had to re-type the password in order to get back in on all other machines (e.g. browser access)
6) Despite this, the Gmail app on my Samsung S5 merrily continues to be able to access my Yahoo! account, even though there is no way it knows the password!!
7) This sounds like it should be impossible. Is it something to do with the frequency with which Yahoo! update IMAP passwords (i.e. maybe they only do it overnight) and so I have to wait 24 hours before my Gmail account / my Samsung s5 is blocked access?
8) When I log into Gmail online I see no evidence of any link to Yahoo!
9)The only clue I have is that when I go to CyanogenMod Accounts, I am not permitted to change the Yahoo! password (it says "Signed in with Yahoo!" and offers no password option in Accounts Settings >> [My Yahoo Account] >> Server Settings > Incoming Mail. The server is stated to be android.imap.mail.yahoo.com
Please help!
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I just tried the same thing on a near identically-configured Samsung s3 running CyanogenMod 12.1 and it gives me the option to type a password in in the Incoming email settings, so perhaps it is a feature of the version of CyanogenMod / Android 5.1.1 I am running on the S5?
Fascinating. It is a breach of Yahoo security though - I had to retype the password on the S3, and then it worked!
The S5 just accesses the Yahoo! Mail anyway (and refuses to let you type the password in, even though it has changed - see above).
Surely this exploses a big hole in Yahoo mail's security - no-one should be able to access Yahoo! Mail without a password, yet this configuration on the S5 can!
I have the answer! It is explained fully here on Yahoo! Answers: https://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20151101043604AAIClm6&ap=0&ans_success=1 (by me). Summary: -The problem is that Yahoo! Mail disabled any ability to click-through, in the Account Info screen, to "Manage App and Website Connections". Only there can you prevent the Gmail App in Android from accessing Yahoo! Mail via IMAP. The Gmail App is able to access Yahoo! Mail irrespective of whether or not you have changed the password. The solution is to use the link in your original email from Yahoo to access this, now hidden, page and then de-authorise Gmail if your phone is, for example, stolen.
Given that it took me over a month to find an answer, I hope that this summary will help someone else out in my predicament in the future. Do post and let me know if it has helped you - it will make me feel all warm and fuzzy!
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Please can anyone help, I have just changed from a HTC Desire to a Galaxy S2. I use Exchange server email, syncing Email,Contacts and calendar. Yesterday I put a new appiontment in the calendar and it never appeared on my PC Outlook account. After having a good look I noticed that in the calendar it has a G (for Google) next to the entry.
Please can anyone let me know how to stop anything to do with Contacts,Email and calendar going to Google.
I know I have to have a Google account for the Market, but that is the only reason I wish to use it, and even then I have google mail redirected automaticaly to my Outlook account.
Thanks
Sam
In fact things are worse than I thought, I turn off the Google Calendar and enter an appiontment it does not appear! However if I turn on the Google calendar it does!!!!
Please please let me know how to have only Exchnage as my primary source of Calendar!
When you create a task or an appointment on the phone, it should ask you where you want to create it - be sure to select your Exchange account.
Personally, in a similar position to you, I chose to pay for Touchdown for Exchange. There is a free trial so you'll get the chance to test it thoroughly. You have to keep some elements syncing with the default client in the background - contacts, if memory serves - but you can set Touchdown to be the default for calendar, email, tasks, etc, so it is a pretty seamless experience. I'd recommend it.
Thanks Gustopher, prblem sorted and will try Touchdown
Sam
Hello,
I only have one email account set up to sync email. It is my MS Exchange account. I have it set for push.
Yet for some reason the icon on my home screen is almost always showing an incorrect number of new messages. If I open up outlook - then it seems to sync - not always synced even during key work hours - 8-8 (when I have it set for push).
I'm not sure if this is a glitch with the 3D or android something I'm doing wrong or if there is a work around. I know 3 other people with the 3D and they all have the same issue.
I'm new to android so I'll give you what info I think might be important.
I have both background and autosync checked.
I have mail, contacts, calendar, update when opened checked. I have update schedule set for push between 8-8 every day.
I tried making both peak and off hours push - unfortunately that doesn't help either.
Weird, I've been using my gmail account on exchange (I like the HTC Mail application better than the gmail one) and have yet to have any issues. Hope you get it resolved since my gmail is working fine though I'm thinking it might be something on the ms exchange server's end.
lchupacabras said:
Weird, I've been using my gmail account on exchange (
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You use your gmail account on exchange? You forward your gmail email to microsoft exchange? Then have your business exchange server forwad to the 3D instead of just going direct from gmail to your 3D mail app?
I have multiple email accounts, most are gmail. I chose to access them through exchange because that allows me to use HTC mail, which has a unified mail box.
Regarding your initial problem, how many aspects of your email account are you syncing. For example, is it Inbox only or do you also sync outbox, sent, trash, deleted, etc. If you do the latter, I have noticed that the new mail count is off, because the app, after initial set up at least, will count mail synced in other folders that have at, some point be marked unread.
Going through the various folders and marking everything as read fixed the problem for me.
Hope this helps.
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I am confused by those saying you are using exchange - I'm talking about using an MS Exchange SERVER. Are you sending your gmail to a microsoft exchange SERVER? I'm not talking about a gmail server or hotmail server but an actual server set up for a company that runs Microsoft Exchange. A server that when you access it from the web it says Microsoft Outlook Web Access or Microsoft Web App- Connected to Microsoft Exchange
I have only one email account I'm syncing which is on an MS exchange server. The only folders I sync are inbox and sent items. The only unread mail items I'll ever have on the server are items in my inbox. I'd like to have the icont on the home screen for mail messages show me the number of unread messages I have which are on an MS exchange email server (not forwarded from gmail or hotmail). I know other people using exchange servers that also have the incorrect number of items showing on their EVO 3D. My guess is people using gmail (direct from gmail servers) won't have this issue so I'm asking people who use MS Exchange servers. WM devices, WP7 devices and iphones from the same exchange servers show the correct number of messages.
i think it has something to do with the number of days you sync.
in outlook, mark all of your email as read (if you can do this).
hit refresh on your phone. it should say 0 unread for both.
from here you can figure out what is going on.
Thanks, I should be clear. It can be temporarily correct. FOr example if I open email on the phone and it syncs, and I open emails etc and go back to the home page and it shows no new messages which is correct.
But if I get a new email, then I open it on my computer and delete it. Hours later it will still show 1 new message on my home screen on the phone. I'd expect that sort of half assed issue if I was using pop but this appears to be something not implemented with sense or android.
That is normal for Android. Your phone notification will still show that you haven't read the e-mail from Exchange until you open e-mail on the phone and it refreshes. Annoying, I know, but it's like the notification function just isn't integrated as well as it should be.
boe said:
I'm not sure if this is a glitch with the 3D or android something I'm doing wrong or if there is a work around. I know 3 other people with the 3D and they all have the same issue.
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Ok, first off, I don't have a 3D. I've got a Sensation on Tmo but I think they're pretty much the same phone.
I also had a few glitches when I tried out the Android Exchange client. But mainly I didn't like the draconian way it implemented my company's security policies and I said "screw it". I found a different client called Touchdown and gave it a whirl. I liked it so eventually I bought it. I'm not used to paying quite that much for an app when most of the others I use are cheap or free. But I use it a *lot* and it works very well. It's *much* better than the Android client imho.
Jye75 said:
That is normal for Android. Your phone notification will still show that you haven't read the e-mail from Exchange until you open e-mail on the phone and it refreshes. Annoying, I know, but it's like the notification function just isn't integrated as well as it should be.
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Thanks for letting me know this is normal for Android. I hope they fix it as it is one of my ONLY major issue with Android. This is my first Android phone and I like Android a lot. The phone as a phone sucks but that isn't Android's fault.
Hi all,
Recently purchased a Samsung Nexus S. The stock email client (not the GMail app), using POP3 will delete mails once they have been downloaded, or when I next sync. Occasionally it will not delete all mails, just some. The option to delete from the server is not ticked and no other clients are pulling from the server, so its not the case that another app is deleting them. To confirm, emails aren't being deleted after say 10 days, they are being deleted within minutes, and I'm only downloading a handful of mails.
Any help much appreciated- all forum posts seem to relate to other clients consuming from the server and deleting mails, which isnt my issue. Cheers.
Andy
If I remember correctly, POP email servers are linked between the mobile device and the regular computer. If you delete something on the computer it will be deleted on the phone and vice versa. If this isn't the case, are you sure they're being deleted and not hidden do to being marked as read? Check the trash to see if they've been sent there.
Thanks for the reply.
Messages are not being moved to any visible folders, and no other client (ie Outlook) are accessing this mail server.
Thanks.
OK, I kind of resolved this, if it helps anyone.
Firstly, I tried a different POP3 and also an IMPA provider with the mail client - both work fine, no problems. Then I recalled that my mail provider (Virgin Media UK) have recently advised that it is necessary to put 'recent:' ahead of the POP3 username, making it 'recent:[email protected]'. Now the default mail client won't allow this format of username, presumably some internal validation on the client side does not permit it.
So I tried K9 Mail - this behaves the same way with the standard POP3 username, but with the 'recent:' prefix (which it allows) my mails aren't deleted every time I pull from the server. My thoughts are that without the 'recent:' prefix, Virgin Media only returns the new mails - as the default mail client syncs with the server on a 1:1 relationship, it then deletes all old messages (even if they are only a few seconds old). With 'recent:' I think Virgin Media supplies a whole chunk of recent emails, not just the new ones, and the client app essentially doesn't delete the older mails until the time I happen to sync and they are no longer classed as 'recent'.
So in summary, there is no fix for the built-in client - but a workaround is to use K9, which seems a better client anyway. What's most ironic is that Virgin Media's email service uses Google Mail. Oh dear...
Greets all,
Was wondering if anyone might have this issue. I setup my phone to grab my emails, I set it up as an IMAP so that this way I could get the emails but keep it on the server, so this way I can download it on my computer into outlook later on. Up until the One max, I never had an issue and always set it up the same way, I recently just noticed that after I read a email and if I delete it from the phone it seems to delete it off the server as well. I tested this out by sending myself an email and then deleting it, then going into outlook to receive the email but it wasnt there. If I got into the server its in the deleted folder and not in the inbox as it should be.
Anyone else notice this?
Well I just tried something else, I just set it up as a POP account, and it works as IMAP, Hmmm I wonder if they messed up and named them wrong, where Imap is suppose to be pop and pop is suppose to be IMAP.
Still curious to see others responses.
When i click Add account, it shows Other(POP/IMAP)
Screen shot attached for your reference, what do you get?
Same thing except I dont have Gmail or Yahoo in the list, just the other three, but thats not where the problem is, its after you pick Other/pop3. Long story short: I have my own email, I set it up through aol a long time ago when they were giving away domain names for free, then they dropped it and I had to get it registered through another place to keep it, but I still can use aol's mail settings in outlook to get me mail. The problem is I can see the email on aol's site, and download it to my outlook, but the first way I set it up on the phone I would see it on the phone and then delete it, when I go into outlook it would say no mail, but if I went to aol's site and looked in the trash it was in there where its not suppose to be, its suppose to be in the inbox to be downloaded to my outlook. But when I changed the setting to pop setting, it is working as Imap should.
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Same thing except I dont have Gmail or Yahoo in the list, just the other three, but thats not where the problem is, its after you pick Other/pop3. Long story short: I have my own email, I set it up through aol a long time ago when they were giving away domain names for free, then they dropped it and I had to get it registered through another place to keep it, but I still can use aol's mail settings in outlook to get me mail. The problem is I can see the email on aol's site, and download it to my outlook, but the first way I set it up on the phone I would see it on the phone and then delete it, when I go into outlook it would say no mail, but if I went to aol's site and looked in the trash it was in there where its not suppose to be, its suppose to be in the inbox to be downloaded to my outlook. But when I changed the setting to pop setting, it is working as Imap should.
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Ah okay, i got your problem... i don't know why imagined that you PC was missing IMAP, but was that not the IMAP was supposed to work..., 2 way communication = IMAP
POP vs IMAP
If you're trying to decide between using POP and IMAP, we encourage you to use IMAP.
Unlike POP, IMAP offers two-way communication between your web Gmail and your email client. This means when you log in to Gmail using a web browser, actions you perform on email clients and mobile devices (ex: putting mail in a 'work' folder) will instantly and automatically appear in Gmail (ex: it will already have a 'work' label on that email the next time you sign in).
IMAP also provides a better method to access your mail from multiple devices. If you check your email at work, on your mobile phone, and again at home, IMAP ensures that new mail is accessible from any device at any given time.
Finally, IMAP offers a more stable experience overall. Whereas POP is prone to losing messages or downloading the same messages multiple times, IMAP avoids this through two-way syncing capabilities between your mail clients and your web Gmail.
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pradeepvizz said:
Ah okay, i got your problem... i don't know why imagined that you PC was missing IMAP, but was that not the IMAP was supposed to work..., 2 way communication = IMAP
POP vs IMAP
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Okay you missed the whole point here. When I chose IMAP with my email on my phone, and then delete it from the inbox (select and hit trash can) its suppose to delete from the phone inbox, but should show up as new in my outlook 2010 on my pc as new. It doesnt show up at all. If I go to a web browser and login into my email, its in my trash folder and not in my inbox as it should be.
Now if I change the setting on the phone FROM IMAP to POP, THEN is works correctly as IMAP.
they way i have always thought of imap to work is , as the other poster mentioned: 2 way communication.
if i delete mail on the phone (imap), then on my web based email, that same email will be deleted there.
if i move an email from , say, inbox to some other folder on my phone, then on the server it too will get moved there.
this is how imap is supposed to work? at least that is how it has worked for me over the years...
i have 4 email accounts on my own email server. i use gmail to fetch that mail and i also use my web based interface to access it. the mail is synced everywhere its supposed to be.
i have the all set to imap, not pop.
marctronixx said:
they way i have always thought of imap to work is , as the other poster mentioned: 2 way communication.
if i delete mail on the phone (imap), then on my web based email, that same email will be deleted there.
if i move an email from , say, inbox to some other folder on my phone, then on the server it too will get moved there.
this is how imap is supposed to work? at least that is how it has worked for me over the years...
i have 4 email accounts on my own email server. i use gmail to fetch that mail and i also use my web based interface to access it. the mail is synced everywhere its supposed to be.
i have the all set to imap, not pop.
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me too... yes that's how IMAP works, i am guessing OP has some little confusion on it..
I do understand this, but coming from a samsung galaxy note, this wasnt the case. On computers it did work this way, but every phone I've had and including the Note did not work this way, this is the first time its functioning this way, which I thought was odd.
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Hello:
I currently am a BlackBerry user (9930 and Playbook). My carrier, Sprint, has not provided a viable upgrade path for me, so I am looking into alternatives to BlackBerry. The upcoming HTC One has my attention and I am hoping to answer a few questions about my ability to use an Android phone while maintaining local control over my PIM data. I should stress here that I am at the very beginning of my exploration of Android OS, so hopefully you can tolerate what I expect will be some basic questions.
1) Is it possible to fully use the phone while preventing it from storing my PIM data on Google's servers?
-- My understanding is that you must create, or link to, a gmail account in order to access the Google Play store (and possibly do other things on the phone). Doing so creates a means for Google to back up your calendar, email and potentially other data to its servers. If I must establish a Gmail account, then can I do so strictly as a means to access the Play Store, while preventing the non-Gmail email accounts (and their associated calendars) that I will actively be using, from getting backed up to the cloud, but still enabling those (non-Gmail) accounts to automatically pull down mail periodically?
2) Can direct, local syncs between the phone and MS Outlook on my computer be performed (via wifi/ bluetooth/ USB)?
3) Does the native calendar app accept and properly process incoming iCal invites (especially those which would be sent by a BlackBerry), and can invites for events be sent from the calendar when the events are created?
4) Assuming I can get away with not registering a Gmail account, what are some of the best non-Play Store options for obtaining apps?
Thank you
Updates to my questions from earlier: From reading I have done, it appears that I can avoid having my calendar and contacts data synced to Google, by simply turning that (sync) feature off, and not establishing a Gmail account. Also, there are options like the Amazon App Store, Getjar and Aptoide from which I can obtain apps without needing a Google account.
What remains unclear is whether I can set up a non-Gmail account to automatically pull down mail on a schedule, when I have Google sync turned off (in other words, are the sync settings "one size fits all" or can sync settings be different for various accounts).
What I am also a little fuzzy about is whether the native email client is vendor agnostic, or somehow tied into Google. This relates to my question about turning off "Google sync"
Bottom line: if I do not establish a Google account for the phone, am I safe from having email, calendar and contact info uploaded to Google servers?
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Hello:
I currently am a BlackBerry user (9930 and Playbook). My carrier, Sprint, has not provided a viable upgrade path for me, so I am looking into alternatives to BlackBerry. The upcoming HTC One has my attention and I am hoping to answer a few questions about my ability to use an Android phone while maintaining local control over my PIM data. I should stress here that I am at the very beginning of my exploration of Android OS, so hopefully you can tolerate what I expect will be some basic questions.
1) Is it possible to fully use the phone while preventing it from storing my PIM data on Google's servers?
-- My understanding is that you must create, or link to, a gmail account in order to access the Google Play store (and possibly do other things on the phone). Doing so creates a means for Google to back up your calendar, email and potentially other data to its servers. If I must establish a Gmail account, then can I do so strictly as a means to access the Play Store, while preventing the non-Gmail email accounts (and their associated calendars) that I will actively be using, from getting backed up to the cloud, but still enabling those (non-Gmail) accounts to automatically pull down mail periodically?
2) Can direct, local syncs between the phone and MS Outlook on my computer be performed (via wifi/ bluetooth/ USB)?
3) Does the native calendar app accept and properly process incoming iCal invites (especially those which would be sent by a BlackBerry), and can invites for events be sent from the calendar when the events are created?
4) Assuming I can get away with not registering a Gmail account, what are some of the best non-Play Store options for obtaining apps?
Thank you
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