Do you think it's a possible that we will get a Google Play edition? I'm hoping yes, there's already a Google Play edition of the Z Ultra, but I think it hasn't sold well, so maybe Sony won't bother anymore? What do you guys think? Sony's skin is not bad per se but the only thing they do better than stock android is the camera app , which is horrible on nexus devices :crying:
It would be nice to have stock android and quick updates, sony is maybe the worst of all major android manufacturers when it comes to updates :/
Dude, phone isn't even released yet and one update is already certified. What more do you want? :silly:
Give them a chance, the update on Z1 Compact was rather quick too. Who knows, they must have done work on the software side too.
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Dude, phone isn't even released yet and one update is already certified. What more do you want? :silly:
Give them a chance, the update on Z1 Compact was rather quick too. Who knows, they must have done work on the software side too.
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But it's just bug fixes, they haven't proved they can bring android updates quick .
After I played around with a One (M8) , I gotta say I'm really impressed by sense 6 ,with the launcher being the exception I would say I like it more than stock android and that's saying a lot, it's cohesive and it looks modern ,unlike Sony's ui, it looks a bit dated :'( it's cohesive (unlike stock android ) but it's just me, the only thing that makes it look good are the comparisons with Touchwiz and LG's ui (they're both beyond ugly )
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Haven't used the Z2 but I did have a wee play about with the Z1 and it was pretty close to stock Android so can't see why Sony would bother releasing a Google Play edition.
I used CM on my S3 as I hated Touchwiz but don't think it will be necessary, for me at least, to do that with the Z2. Maybe root it to get xposed framework running but that'll probably be as far as I go.
There will most likely be a Google Play edition. But honestly, I think a google play edition of a Sony phone is pointless - you loose all the best features that make an Xperia device, well.. an Xperia. If you want a pure google experience, with no Walkman, Album, X-Reality, Bravia etc. - you'll probably be better off buying a Nexus 5.
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There will most likely be a Google Play edition. But honestly, I think a google play edition of a Sony phone is pointless - you loose all the best features that make an Xperia device, well.. an Xperia. If you want a pure google experience, with no Walkman, Album, X-Reality, Bravia etc. - you'll probably be better off buying a Nexus 5.
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I don't care about any of those things to be honest but I do care about the battery life (which with my use is terrible on the nexus 5) and the camera quality
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Akiainavas said:
There will most likely be a Google Play edition. But honestly, I think a google play edition of a Sony phone is pointless - you loose all the best features that make an Xperia device, well.. an Xperia. If you want a pure google experience, with no Walkman, Album, X-Reality, Bravia etc. - you'll probably be better off buying a Nexus 5.
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Not true ....they have released a Google play edition HTC M8 and it has most of its "special Features " are included the software,
see this video here from Armando Ferreira:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idzj12THBcQ
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=sony_z_ultra
So now there's a Z Ultra Google Play Edition with pure android 4.4.
How do we get that rom?
Brilliant! now to just wait for someone to buy it.
It´s a huge step forward for Sony and the community. Looking forward to see some nice ROMs!
I can't decide which to order. Will any of the Sony stuff be on the Google Play edition? "bravia engine" and the sort
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I can't decide which to order. Will any of the Sony stuff be on the Google Play edition? "bravia engine" and the sort
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X-Reality for Mobile should be available as long as you don't unlock the phone. And as far as I know it'll only be active for hardware accelerated video, not for photos.
Wow, did not see that coming!! This ROCKS. :good: Can't wait to get this rom on my phone.
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X-Reality for Mobile should be available as long as you don't unlock the phone. And as far as I know it'll only be active for hardware accelerated video, not for photos.
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Do you think the Playstation Mobile app will still come on the device? If it doesn't, do you think Sony would give some way to install like for that one HTC device? Hmm. Likewise for the Walkman app.
Shít only avalaible in the USA
Google should give us europeans some love too
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Other play editions are vanilla android, I think its a fair assumption this will be too - I doubt Sony will roll out both 4.3 and 4.4, with sony apps/engines at the same time. Pure Vanilla 4.4 or Sony 4.3 most likely the plan (in my humble opinion)
Stil great news for XZU 4.4 drivers, libs etc
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Do you think the Playstation Mobile app will still come on the device? If it doesn't, do you think Sony would give some way to install like for that one HTC device? Hmm. Likewise for the Walkman app.
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Great question, I actually have both versions on the way. Gonna play with both of em and decide which one I want. If I can't use the the dual shock 3 natively I might go with the Sony version.
Sony: Pure class. Kitkat AOSP so fast
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Guys brace yourselves for the influx of custom roms
you could very easily convert the HTC One from the Sense version to a GPE one, once the ROM is out, anyone will be able to move theirs to the GPE version!
This is the best news! Yet one more positive point about my decision to get the ultra over the note 3!
This is great news! My Ultra LTE C6806 from the Sony Store is on the Fedex truck for delivery today. I really wanted as-close-to-ASOP phablet as I could get, and the Ultra fit the bill. Hopefully I will be able to turn this into a Google Edition device!
Better start researching how to root this baby!
I'm so excited but this is soooo weird... I thought this massive massive phone was a niche device. Why didnt they do the Z1? I guess I understand why though, they already have the N5, the S4 And the ONE, so instead of adding another 5 inch google play phone, or a slightly larger note 3, they figure why not go with the biggest.
I'm not complaining it just seems so random.
So how does this help us? and It won't really be helping for a few weeks/ months no?
I like I want the gpe rom.
mottyengel said:
I'm so excited but this is soooo weird... I thought this massive massive phone was a niche device. Why didnt they do the Z1? I guess I understand why though, they already have the N5, the S4 And the ONE, so instead of adding another 5 inch google play phone, or a slightly larger note 3, they figure why not go with the biggest.
I'm not complaining it just seems so random.
So how does this help us? and It won't really be helping for a few weeks/ months no?
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It will help us as soon as Google releases the factory images. When? It could happen an hour from now or a week. We don't know.
Wow this is fantastic news, i really wanted stock android in a phablet....since i already own xperia z ultra C6802, does anybody knw how complicated it would be to flash stock android form the Google edition phone?
trellva25 said:
Wow this is fantastic news, i really wanted stock android in a phablet....since i already own xperia z ultra C6802, does anybody knw how complicated it would be to flash stock android form the Google edition phone?
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It's as easy as walking (god, i hope you're not in a wheelchair). We just need Google to release the factory images, which can take everything between now and a week or so. We don't know.
My Sony Xperia Z Ultra C6806 was just updated to KitKat 4.4.4. I enabled Developer Mode but could fine any place to enable ART mode.
Is it my oversight or there is simply no the ability to enable ART on this device?
Your eyes are good. SONY and other companies decided to not give us the oportunity to enable ART. Dunno why. If you really want to try ART try GPe ROMs.
You can read about this here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1-Z1s/ART-runtime-on-z1-4-4-2/td-p/614709
I use art I feel its smoother nice.
Aaaah, count me in too. I was so looking to configure ART on my ZU that I just received last week. Sony has been great in releasing updates quickly but they must have something that is incompatible with the new run time.
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I use art I feel its smoother nice.
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Indeed. All the microlag is gone on ART, so it looks like it's working as it should. It'll get even better with Android L though, according to a graph at I/O, so we're not getting the full effect quite yet.
i like sony stock rom actually, but is it worth it to go to GPE just for the ART?
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i like sony stock rom actually, but is it worth it to go to GPE just for the ART?
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Nah, I wouldn't jump ship for ART alone, but the GPe ROM is very good and stable, so I recommend the ROM if you feel like trying it, but ART alone isn't worth jumping ship for, no.
Anyone tried to flash this from Recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707841
UPDATE: Forget it, no libart.so in /system/lib if I didn't missed it there.
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Anyone tried to flash this from Recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707841
UPDATE: Forget it, no libart.so in /system/lib if I didn't missed it there.
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Doesn't work for Xperia Z Ultra aosb 1.3.6 Rom 4.4.4 kitkat. I have the correct lib files. It freezes in bootloader animation.
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A little off topic since this isn't about the Ultra, but I flashed CM11 on my old Desire HD and it was running as expected - laggy like hell, so I thought "I should enable ART and see if that does anything". Results? It's far from the fastest device out there, but it's all smooth now. It's a god damn miracle!
Yes on CM ART workes well. But there are no performance boosts like on the old DHD of course.
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Hello guys,
I recently got enough money for buying a new phone so I looked on the web and I founded the Xperia SP and the S3 and I might think that they should be good for my needness. Well the only thing I personally don't know is which device to choose... I don't know if I should go for more community and bugfree CM11 and a camera but with the "laggy" Touchwiz UI (or at least, many people are saying that) and a slower CPU and GPU or should I go for more speed, more premium materials but for the snappy but ugly Xperias Timescape and a little bit buggy CM11... Well I hope You guys can help me which to decide
The most thing I only do is playing Clash Of Clans, listening to music, use social networks and sometime play Asphalt 8 and ofc, experiment with ROMs
Thanks to everyone
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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I own both the devices and Xperia SP beats S3 anytime anyday.
Xperia's UI is finesse but the things I like the most about this devices are the Walkman App, urm the ligh bands at the bottom, the way coc runs (Like butter).
The Things i like about S3, AMOLED screen, rest of it, poop!
How come there isn't even basic ROMs for Z2 yet? No PA, No VanirAOSP and all.
I am thinking to buy this device but the dev support got me worried.
From my experience on here dev support usually takes a while on sony devices. If custom roms is your thing you should have a look at htc's phones or wait and see what progress is made with the z2.
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Official CM development has already begun, (on par with the Z) which is much sooner than happened with the Z1.
Z1 had issues with unlocking the bootloader which was only resolved a few months after launch. Z2 does not have this problem.
Once CM completes the bring up other roms will follow.
pratyush997 said:
How come there isn't even basic ROMs for Z2 yet? No PA, No VanirAOSP and all.
I am thinking to buy this device but the dev support got me worried.
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I must admit, I'd like to see a completely pure AOSP ROM myself. (With one possible exception: the camera. I wouldn't want to lose any hardware features in terms of capture resolution, capture rate, full / half press shutter button, focus speed, or image quality. Couldn't care less about 4K video, but I don't know if there's a third-party app that can provide all of the above.)
I find my Xperia Z2 incredibly bloated, and while I've disabled as much as I can, there's a lot that can't be disabled without root. (And I am uncertain whether I can safely root this and change much without losing my warranty or the ability to install subsequent OTA updates without risking bricking the phone.)
nobby00900 said:
From my experience on here dev support usually takes a while on sony devices. If custom roms is your thing you should have a look at htc's phones or wait and see what progress is made with the z2.
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M8 has way more dev support than Z2
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M8 has way more dev support than Z2
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Well it's a more popular phone. Not sure about somewhere else, but in Adelaide (Australia), htc is everywhere, but you can barely bump into someone with a Sony phone.
I for one would love a purer android experience, but I don't want to lose the active noise cancelling and answering machine. The thing irritates me the most on Z2 is that 'what's new' button when you long press home. Google now is not in the middle as it should.
Sure ROMs will have support when the phone is widely available, the trees are quite stable now and ready for daily driver.
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Sure ROMs will have support when the phone is widely available, the trees are quite stable now and ready for daily driver.
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I think I'll just get Z1 because it's almost similar to Z2 and has more support.
In case anyone is intrested: I currently work on a pure AOSP device tree for 4.4.4. i also planned to have some fun with L-preview but I don't know if I am able to do this.
You'll hear from me.
Greetings
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knoxploration said:
I must admit, I'd like to see a completely pure AOSP ROM myself. (With one possible exception: the camera. I wouldn't want to lose any hardware features in terms of capture resolution, capture rate, full / half press shutter button, focus speed, or image quality. Couldn't care less about 4K video, but I don't know if there's a third-party app that can provide all of the above.)
I find my Xperia Z2 incredibly bloated, and while I've disabled as much as I can, there's a lot that can't be disabled without root. (And I am uncertain whether I can safely root this and change much without losing my warranty or the ability to install subsequent OTA updates without risking bricking the phone.)
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That's the holy grail of android. AOSP with some pumped up feature rich camera. It doesn't exist, on any device!
I ran CM11 today just to try it out. I really like the ROM but the camera is just garbage compared to Sony's software. Plus you can't start the camera from the shutter button (a huge benefit for me personally). The smoothness and customization is great, but the camera never will be.
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That's the holy grail of android. AOSP with some pumped up feature rich camera. It doesn't exist, on any device!
I ran CM11 today just to try it out. I really like the ROM but the camera is just garbage compared to Sony's software. Plus you can't start the camera from the shutter button (a huge benefit for me personally). The smoothness and customization is great, but the camera never will be.
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The camera is on par with Sony's ROM when it comes to photo quality, it doesn't support 4k but apart from that it
s pretty okay?
farfromovin said:
That's the holy grail of android. AOSP with some pumped up feature rich camera. It doesn't exist, on any device!
I ran CM11 today just to try it out. I really like the ROM but the camera is just garbage compared to Sony's software. Plus you can't start the camera from the shutter button (a huge benefit for me personally). The smoothness and customization is great, but the camera never will be.
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Press the button on the 2nd step (the one which is more inside) for like 2 seconds. Starts fine here on Carbon (which uses CM Camera).
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I think I'll just get Z1 because it's almost similar to Z2 and has more support.
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Screen is much better on Z2.
Plus, aosp been avail on z1 much longer and to get camera to work properly you have to install a camera fix app.
Z2 has only had fully working aosp for a few weeks. You will find new developers and ROMs appearing each month so don't worry.
And on my previous phones, I rarely run pure CM but on Z2 I'm totally happy with it. Fast, smooth and with an Android L theme it looks great too.
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furrypotato said:
Screen is much better on Z2.
Plus, aosp been avail on z1 much longer and to get camera to work properly you have to install a camera fix app.
Z2 has only had fully working aosp for a few weeks. You will find new developers and ROMs appearing each month so don't worry.
And on my previous phones, I rarely run pure CM but on Z2 I'm totally happy with it. Fast, smooth and with an Android L theme it looks great too.
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I also have an OnePlus One invite but even that device doesn't have decent dev support
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The camera is on par with Sony's ROM when it comes to photo quality, it doesn't support 4k but apart from that it
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For just a point and shoot it may be on part with OEM. One of Sony's best features might be the 120fps 720p mode. Much better than iphone5s or OPPO find7. No such option with AOSP derived third party roms.
pratyush997 said:
How come there isn't even basic ROMs for Z2 yet? No PA, No VanirAOSP and all.
I am thinking to buy this device but the dev support got me worried.
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It has Cyanogenmod and AOKP. Those are arguably the 2 most basic.
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It has Cyanogenmod and AOKP. Those are arguably the 2 most basic.
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Check M8's forums and compare it to Z2
farfromovin said:
That's the holy grail of android. AOSP with some pumped up feature rich camera. It doesn't exist, on any device!
I ran CM11 today just to try it out. I really like the ROM but the camera is just garbage compared to Sony's software. Plus you can't start the camera from the shutter button (a huge benefit for me personally). The smoothness and customization is great, but the camera never will be.
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if you install the oneplusone camera app, it will start when the phone is unlocked with the camera button. and you get a little bit of customisation.
From the looks of things though android L will bring use closer to the gold of having support for advanced camera features, rather than oems having to build there own.
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Yeah I switched to Carbon for a few days and found that the general photo quality in the stock camera was pretty close, but I still missed the Sony app enough that I loaded my RomAur backup.
Honestly I could have dealt with the camera, but I had a lot of issues with AndroidWear and my Gear Live not working correctly on it... Not sure how support is on other Z2 supporting AOSP-ish ROMs at the moment but it wasn't particularly reliable there.
I definitely did like the overall experience though minus the minor issues.
farfromovin said:
That's the holy grail of android. AOSP with some pumped up feature rich camera. It doesn't exist, on any device!
I ran CM11 today just to try it out. I really like the ROM but the camera is just garbage compared to Sony's software. Plus you can't start the camera from the shutter button (a huge benefit for me personally). The smoothness and customization is great, but the camera never will be.
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I'm not asking for a pumped-up, feature-rich camera, just one that can do what the hardware is capable of. Full resolution, full burst rate, and a working shutter button. I'd prefer not to have all Sony's extra bunk like ar modes etc, to be honest.
We should let SONY know that the current Android 9 Pie is the worst lazy treatment since the SONY upgrade system.
Xperia XZ3,Xperia XZ2, XZ2 Premium, XZ2 Compact, Xperia XZ Premium, XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, XA2, XA2 Ultra and XA2 Plus, which can be upgraded to Android 9 Pie, should be displayed to tell SONY about the Android 9 Pie experience.
For details, please go to the Xperia Support Forum.
XPERIA XZ3 Discussion - Article title: SONY Bad Android 9 Pie
Let the user wait for a long time, Pie is finally updated.
The update found that it is very different from the Android 9 Pie we know.
SONY's Android 9 Pie seems to be android oreo 8.1 experience
We lack many important features
No New-System-Navigation & Digital Wellbeing & Slice & actions
There is no change in the Setting UI.
Perhaps SONY developers should refer to what is Android 9 Pie
This is just a waste of time for the XPERIA XZ2 participating in the Android 9 Pie test.
Other complaints
1.Always on display Why not do a unified drop to all Android 9 models only XZ2 series
2.No. There is still no port Systemui with new clock (XZ Premium, XZ1, XZ1 Compact)
3.GOOGLE active marketing developers should have a dark theme
The dark theme that our sony music APP and Sony Album APP already have.
But should the apps used by Sony Phone, Sony Contacts, and Sony Mobile SupportXperia keyboards also include the dark theme option?
I don't want the "new" navigation that is in Google's launcher. It looks awful and less usable than the "old" one.
Auto super slow-mo
All I wanted from this dumb update was AUTO SUPER SLOW-MO...nope.
It's xmas so a little gift like an S9 would do me good right now
This update has has been terrible, for the sake of simplicity sony is just doing nothing and calling it stock experience. This is the laziest iteration of an update and it hasnt even come to canda yet. 2 months of update and nothing yet here in canada.
The phone seems slower than that of oreo, the phone heats up more than ususal even when doing simple things like browsing and listeniung to music. The camera application is slower, touch is sometimes unresponsive. This update is very buggy in my opinion and sony f******up big time. All samsung fans will be treated to something new and all sony fans have been using the same **** ui from xperia z1 with minor changes
OP, you're an idiot. Android 9 (or any other major update) isn't about a new UI. It's the technology in the background that makes it worthwhile.
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OP, you're an idiot. Android 9 (or any other major update) isn't about a new UI. It's the technology in the background that makes it worthwhile.
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Lubomir63 said:
All I wanted from this dumb update was AUTO SUPER SLOW-MO...nope.
It's xmas so a little gift like an S9 would do me good right now
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what do you mean by auto super slow-mo ?
Does anyone have wifi issues with android 9? I use to have to reboot my phone at some point because it won't take any wifi communication any more (on oreo)
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what do you mean by auto super slow-mo ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MvkBcpl3R4 That's what I mean
No, change in UI for an update is stupid in a consumer sense.
I am sure 90% of the users will find it confusing, one day when you wake up, the whole UI has changed and you have to learn again. If I were a developer, I would hold the UI until I release a new phone. However, I think they should have include an option to enable the new navigation though, as well as the dark theme.
Overall, I like the new pie update. Its smooth and responsive.
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No, change in UI for an update is stupid in a consumer sense.
I am sure 90% of the users will find it confusing, one day when you wake up, the whole UI has changed and you have to learn again. If I were a developer, I would hold the UI until I release a new phone. However, I think they should have include an option to enable the new navigation though, as well as the dark theme.
Overall, I like the new pie update. Its smooth and responsive.
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The ui changes with almost every update. That's life
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How many have this update installed?
My gf got the update on her phone and wifi is really acting up.
It seems like when connecting it works for a few seconds, speedy like it should be and suddenly the wifi connection speed is down to 2mb no matter how close to the ap the phone is, and I'm running Cisco AP's so the network is not the issue.
I REALLY hope someone has some clue how to perhaps fix this without rooting the phone.
I have my own rooted and still on oreo and it seems that I will stick with oreo for now on my phone.
For me its very important, battery drain its really great, on oreo battery drain fast, new system ui looks very good, settings has been changed in many sections, and super slowmo in full hd..
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I think what the OP is saying is the lack of Elegance in the UI. Looks blocky and almost like Android 6.1. They could at least implemented the rounded edges in the notification shade. Little things like that go a long way.
Does it drain battery lesser than it used to in 8.1? Is it worth upgrading?