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I got a clarification on root.
If I just unlock the bootloader from htcdev, can I use adb tools to push the supersuer.apk into /system/app?. Does this method require a stock ATT boot.img?
I know there is no recovery for ATT, so don't want to brick the phone, but I wanted to know if unlocking the bootloader will give R/W on system partition or does a insecure boot.img needs to be flashed?
Any help?
pradeepd said:
I got a clarification on root.
If I just unlock the bootloader from htcdev, can I use adb tools to push the supersuer.apk into /system/app?. Does this method require a stock ATT boot.img?
I know there is no recovery for ATT, so don't want to brick the phone, but I wanted to know if unlocking the bootloader will give R/W on system partition or does a insecure boot.img needs to be flashed?
Any help?
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TWRP has a revocery up for the ATT HOX+
I dont believe there are any ATT safe roms yet though.
I plan on only unlocking the bootloader from HTCdev (in fear that att might stop that over the air) and then just wait around a bit until a safe rom shows up.
pradeepd said:
I got a clarification on root.
If I just unlock the bootloader from htcdev, can I use adb tools to push the supersuer.apk into /system/app?. Does this method require a stock ATT boot.img?
I know there is no recovery for ATT, so don't want to brick the phone, but I wanted to know if unlocking the bootloader will give R/W on system partition or does a insecure boot.img needs to be flashed?
Any help?
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There is a recovery.....
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So which one of these superuser zips should I flash? http://androidsu.com/superuser/
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So which one of these superuser zips should I flash? http://androidsu.com/superuser/
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I just flashed the su binary for arm from that page, and I can see it on the file system, yet all apps say I don't have root.
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OK, just flashed the newer RC one that includes Superuser and it worked. You're safe to do so.
So what root guide should I use?? And I refuse to have s-on
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I used this and it worked fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
And there's no known way currently to have S-off, so you're stuck with it for now.
gewbert3 said:
I used this and it worked fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
And there's no known way currently to have S-off, so you're stuck with it for now.
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I'll second that, I was able to root my AT&T HOX+ with the All-in-one. I'm a newbie at this, and am having trouble flashing ROMS on, but I'll try and figure it out at some point. Over in the "Android Development" section, a couple of people posted ROMs that should work with the AT&T and Telus versions. I'm not sure what S-off is, but is this keeping me from flashing ROMS?
Without flashing a custom kernel for that Rom first yes. This is why I hate having b new phone after the initial launch. All the good stuff is still in alpha and beta. Waited 6 months to get the inspire then a year to root it. Just for those reasons but I was late to the party as devs moved on. Sick twisted games we play
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when the update was released i couldn't wait and i returned to stock and updated. is there any ways i can root the phone on ICS? and flash the rooted version? I am on locked s-boot.
UPDATE:
Thanks for posting the answer. for everyone else, here it is.
disconnecktie said:
Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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Not yet.
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jareddlc said:
when the update was released i couldn't wait and i returned to stock and updated. is there any ways i can root the phone on ICS? and flash the rooted version? I am on locked s-boot.
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If you are unrooted and s-on right now, you may never be able to root.
Someone will have to spend time finding an exploit. How many devs are working on the TB now?
But if you have S-off still, then you could possibly install an alternate recovery, like clockwork, then install su from inside cwm and obtain root that way.
KidJoe said:
If you are unrooted and s-on right now, you may never be able to root.
Someone will have to spend time finding an exploit. How many devs are working on the TB now?
But if you have S-off still, then you could possibly install an alternate recovery, like clockwork, then install su from inside cwm and obtain root that way.
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He would need to be unlocked as well. If you were able to take the ota and remain unlocked and s on then yes you can download the flash able recovery and superuser and flash them both in recovery to root again.
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Anyone tried OTA ROOTKEEPER?
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could i reflash the stock ruu 2.3 and then root from there?
No, it won't let you downgrade your OS.
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He would need to be unlocked as well. If you were able to take the ota and remain unlocked and s on then yes you can download the flash able recovery and superuser and flash them both in recovery to root again.
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Thanks. For some reason when I typed that I was thinking all the S-OFF boot loaders out there were all "unlocked" which is why I didn't call that out, that is not the case is it?
I had applied the unlocked, s-off, "permanent" hboot back before revolutionary, so my memory is fuzzy on this stuff.
You can root, but you cannot S-OFF.
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You can root, but you cannot S-OFF.
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How?
DROID RAZR MAXX
I would like to know the answer to this too. I want to try to root stock ICS OTA, but I can't find a definitive solution.
joenforcer said:
I would like to know the answer to this too. I want to try to root stock ICS OTA, but I can't find a definitive solution.
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Since the bootloader is locked it isn't possible. We don't have an exploit for it and the htc dev method doesn't work either. Until an exploit is found any new bolt owners are sol. It is unlikely an exploit will be found since there aren't any devs interested in finding an exploit.
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I have access to the stock recovery, android system recovery <3e> can i flash a rooted tom here? it gives me these options:
reboot system
apply update from sdcard
wipe data/factory
wipe cache partition
could i rename a rooted rom and name it update.zip or something? or should i avoid doing this?
jareddlc said:
I have access to the stock recovery, android system recovery <3e> can i flash a rooted tom here?
could i rename a rooted rom and name it update.zip or something? or should i avoid doing this?
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Definitely avoid doing this. You will brick your phone.
There are a number of people exploring options at this point. If one of them is successful, a guide will be posted soon after.
arizonaomnia said:
Definitely avoid doing this. You will brick your phone.
There are a number of people exploring options at this point. If one of them is successful, a guide will be posted soon after.
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thanks!
Don't do this method people. I can confirm that we have a method to unlock root and s off stock ics. It isn't easy to do but it works and requires downgrading using an ruu.
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Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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disconnecktie said:
Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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Can you copy/past? No feeling the whole sign up to read thing.
DROID RAZR MAXX
Topsnake said:
Can you copy/past? No feeling the whole sign up to read thing.
DROID RAZR MAXX
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It's not something that should really be pasted willy nilly across the web.
There are people there to help if you get stuck.
Translating back and forth from there to here isn't really any easier then you signing up.
If you wanna just wait, it will be incorporated into the All In One Tool fairly soon.
thanks im 90% done. Seems to work so far no issues yet. currently downgrading
I thought I would start a thread to help people that sent there DNA out to get JTAG s-off and now are trying to flash a custom Rom.
If anybody want to put there experience on here so people know the steps and the correct way to handle the bootloader.
I think it would be helpful. I am still waiting for mine to come back from mobiletechvideos so it would be helpful for me to.
Thanks to anyone who contributes.
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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CharliesTheMan said:
Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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I agree, good topic for sure.
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Forum move
Thanks for moving my forum, whoever did. I'm kinda new to the posting in the forums thing...
I should have my DNA back from MobileTech on Thursday. I cant wait but i've seen so many posts of people that got it back and werent sure what to do. Anyways I hope this forum helps out some people.
You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
orangechoochoo said:
You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
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The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
iOSh8er said:
The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
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How did you know I'm part Philippino? Utensils are banned in that country.
s-off dna
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
smokeinluke said:
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
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You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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sweet
LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought but there are people are posting that u need to downgrade via ruu and then use the beups exploit to supercid and then htcdev unlock and I was calling bullswack on that. Lol thanks again
LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
orangechoochoo said:
The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
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I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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LakerStar25 said:
I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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c5satellite2 said:
Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Bigandrewgold said:
The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Why would you try to so your device after you have s-offed it
Where do I find the non-eng hboot? I'm paranoid that if I ever need to s-on my phone I'll further I have eng h-boot and brick it so I kind of want to go back.
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LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Just got my phone back from the JTAG service and this was the exact procedure. Flashed the ENG boot and then flashed recovery. Bootloader still says 'LOCKED' but allowed me to flash.
I've JTAGG'd 18 DNA devices so far on the OTA update (I do this on the downlow due to specific "developer" who can't understand how to get all phones to take the RIFF JTAG flash software.
Flash ENG Hboot if you want the options available to it, though not mandatory. Install a root program (SuperSU is my recommendation), then flash a recovery.
Immediately backup your current setup, then go for any ROM you see fit. Profit.
What does it mean to the S-OFF and root?
If your s off it doesn't effect you the only way that can change is if you turn it back on by yourself. As for root it shouldn't be a problem I don't think the update will block it as most of us s off are running custom roms anyways
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S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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xlxcrossing said:
S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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times_infinity said:
He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
xlxcrossing said:
Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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Thank you, at the least this can help someone doing a google search in the future. :good: More information is never a bad thing.
Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
xlxcrossing said:
Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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I'm not an expert or developer but any update coming from Verizon will likely have the potential to disable the most current root and S-OFF methods. So if you're already S-OFF, then you should be fine. If you have to get your phone replaced with a non-S-OFF model, you will likely not able to re-root and S-OFF that new device. At least until someone is able to find a new root / S-OFF method.
Just my two cents,
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Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
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Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
xlxcrossing said:
Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I understood it the way you did too.
Breaking up the sentence and having the first part as the thread title and the second part as the post is confusing.
xlxcrossing said:
Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I thought you answered the question. I certaintly was curious what they were. I'm chicken and haven't rooted yet. I had no idea what s off was.
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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I don't know what that is but rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
xlxcrossing said:
rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
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I'm pretty sure the root method for the DNA (pretty much all HTC phones) does require s-off and is more involved than just installing and running the superuser app.
Also I wouldn't update to 4.2 it sucks it has blinkfeed which I hate.
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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Rooting the phone is NOT possible without S-OFF.
Running an app as superuser is NOT the same as having a device rooted. In the simplest terms, a rooted phone means you can access and modify system files. The most common use of rooting is running custom ROMs. There are several good ones for DNA in the development section.
You can currently S-OFF and root your phone with a tool called Moonshine, and it is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314771
The only rooting I've ever done has involved flashing super user and I didn't know s-off was required. The other day I rooted a phone without doing s-off so I stand corrected.
You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
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You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
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Root has no function without soff
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Dri94 said:
Root has no function without soff
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Hmmmm no. I don't have S off and I have running a custom Rom.
I can't post or leave a comment in development thread cause I'm a "newer member" (lower than 10 posts) so I create a thread in this category.
Consider my post cause it could help us to reach S-OFF.
Does Firewater S-OFF method help us?
I think yes cause it talks about "qualcomm-based" devices. Anyone tried it? I will try in a few hours!
Tell me or consider this post.
Great find.
Unfortunately closed-source but supposedly works on all Qualcomm-based HTC devices. In theory it should work on our device. Please let us know if you achieve S-OFF without the boot vibrations that happens with Rumrunner S-OFF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630531
exit 1 status
I tried but when i had to confirm with "Yes" or "No" the agree terms of condition It returns "1".
I think I get an error and in fact I have S-ON.
EDIT: This is what i get.
Do you understand the implications of these warnings?
(Yes/No)
Y
Y
Type 'Yes' or 'No'
(Yes/No)
Yes
Yes
hmm....why are you here exactly?
1|[email protected]:/ # /data/local/tmp/firewater
Don't know this one yet, can't check right now. I'll wait for official rumrunner S-OFF for our device, which will come in the next days.
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Yeah it doesn't work.
It returns ''hmm....why are you here exactly?'' and does nothing.
I talked to him on freenode#firewater and che said that desire isn't modern, so its method doesn't work.
Sgamez96 said:
I talked to him on freenode#firewater and che said that desire isn't modern, so its method doesn't work.
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But his talking about desire (bravo) or desire x (protou)?
HTC Desire X || Android 4.1.2 || mySENSEdx5 RC4.0
I: "It doesn't work on HTC Desire X rooted and with unlocked boot loader."
He: "Correct. Desire x != modern"
This is the little conversation.
Anyone try the JuopunutBear S-Off on DesireX
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Anyone try the JuopunutBear S-Off on DesireX
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DX is not supported.
Guys you should try Rumrunner S-OFF. There is a dedicated thread in Desire X Android development section.
Rumrunner S-OFF
Now that we have a working S-OFF for the Desire X, is this likely to help improve the development situation as far as getting a fully working CM 10.1/CM 10.2 goes?
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Now that we have a working S-OFF for the Desire X, is this likely to help improve the development situation as far as getting a fully working CM 10.1/CM 10.2 goes?
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No. S-off doesn't help in any development, but kernel & recovery flashing would become much easier as we can flash kernels & recoveries directly from recovery, no need of pc
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No. S-off doesn't help in any development, but kernel & recovery flashing would become much easier as we can flash kernels & recoveries directly from recovery, no need of pc
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And you can also change the size of partitions and bootup logo.
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And you can also change the size of partitions and bootup logo.
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Size of partitions?? What do u mean by it? I didn't understand it.
It means changing the size of partitions.
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Size of partitions?? What do u mean by it? I didn't understand it.
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Like you can split an hdd in partitions and set them a size, name etc. also android has its partitions to work on: one for bootloader, one for kernel, one for system, etc.
Changing the size it means you can set to which partition you want custom size, for ex. you can change /system partition size to 1mb and you will not be never able to boot a rom, for example..
xpirt
There's an app to do this? Or from recovery?
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There's an app to do this? Or from recovery?
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It has to be done outside the phone on a PC. You have to extract the hboot, modify the image, and flash it back to the phone. Back at my old phone, the HTC Aria, we got someone in our forums who wrote a tool for that. But I doubt that it'll be much use for us. For the HTC Aria, it was important to get CM greater or equal 9 running because system partition was too small.