What's the difference between them?
(GPe, HTC Unlocked, HTC Developer)
I got regular AT&T version. Amber gold.
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GPe is stock vanilla android. It is running what the nexus devices would run without Sense software on top of it.
The Dev model is basically the same as carrier models except it is SIM unlocked and you already have unrestricted access to the phone to develop or flash roms. Still has sense on it.
Good thing about having the M8 on at&t means we can easily turn our carrier versions into a developer version or GPe.
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dtblair24 said:
GPe is stock vanilla android.
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Not true.
Mysteriouskk said:
What's the difference between them?
(GPe, HTC Unlocked, HTC Developer)
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with soff, it doesn't matter which one you get. You can unlock the phone and once ruu's become available, you can truly convert to any variant. I would not convert to gpe because of partition size. Just flash gpe roms if you want to use it.
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with soff, it doesn't matter which one you get. You can unlock the phone and once ruu's become available, you can truly convert to any variant. I would not convert to gpe because of partition size. Just flash gpe roms if you want to use it.
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Once the sense RUU become available moving back to sense won't be an issue as the RUU will restore the sense partition size.
I purchased the developer edition because I was not due for an upgrade and it was the same price at the time. I also like the fact that it is not branded. All I had to do was flash recovery, super user and then S-Off. It won't be long until a ruu and fuu becomes available. Along with a recovery switcher that is in the works.
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GPE is stock Android and will receive updates ASAP (the M7 GPE got 4.4 10 days after release)
HTC Unlock is just sim free. Use it on any GSM network.
HTC Developer editor has the bootloader unlocked from the factory and doesn't void your warranty if you root etc. It's also sim unlock
I have a AT&T branded M8 because I knew it would be dev friendly and I can easily convert to GPE if wanted. Plus I don't plan on leaving AT&T anytime soon so sim unlock isn't important to me. I can always unlock it myself later
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I picked up the ATT branded version because I was eligible for Next so it was convenient. I'll probably pay it off soon anyway. So far I'm pretty happy with my purchase.
I picked up an at&t model and just s-off'ed the device so when the dev ruu drops I will convert to that
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Yeah GPE is not stock vanilla android (read: aosp like the nexus comes with and who's source code is out to build on from google), it is HTC's senseless android build for a stock vanilla "feel".
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I have developer edition.
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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lololol, not this **** again.
This is why I got the Dev edition
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Not surprised by this at all its att it sucks i wish i could have bought the development edition but I have faith the people here will crack it
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess.
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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This is why I got the Dev edition
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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Really though, the amount of modders who need SOFF to do what they want is like less than 5% of the mod community. Root typically handles most issues. Unlocked bootloader is just that barrier above root.
Though, I'm kind of mad that HTC isn't sticking it to ATT on this and telling them to bugger off. Tmobiles is unlocked...
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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I don't know much about the typical bootloader unlocking methods, but saw this recent article about unlocking newer Qualcomm-based Motorola phones. Not that this method will work on the AT&T One, but hopefully a similar method can be found if none of the current tricks work.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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My comment had to do more with informing the previous poster what actually happened on the One X (that he seemed to mostly only know about 2nd hand), rather than speculating on what HTC has done on this upcoming phone. As we know, HTC is a tricky bugger, and I won't even begin to try to guess what security enhancements they have up their sleeve this time around!
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whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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You can root, install custom recovery, and flash custom ROMs with an unlocked bootloader.
S-off allows some other things, such as modding hboot, and flashing radios. But its not needed for flashing custom ROMs.
you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
tian105 said:
you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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Aha! gotcha, Well. I tried to order the Dev edition but it got out of stock.. so i have no choice but to get one from ATT and hope for the best : D
Yeah you can flash roms etc..
But who wants to manually flash the kernel every time you want to update a rom?
I would like to just put my rom on my phone and flash it. Simple as that
Regardless this is XDA and i trust the devs here will do something to get AT&T users rooted.
mine will be going back so fast if its not unlockable
Sprint and tmobile versions are unlockable
There is no surprise about ATT locking the boot loader. Why do you think HTC is selling a developer edition that is using ATT bands. They solved it because there are a few of us who root our phones etc. Most people who buy phones don't do any of this XDA stuff
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I see it this way, with the $100 rebate and the HDMI device I am getting from HTC and ATT the one will be pretty much free. I am switching from Sprint which I had originally switched to with hopes of buying the Nexus 4. Since they stopped doing Nexus on CDMA this is my move back. The One will turn into a backup phone and the next Nexus will become my main. If a Nexus doesn't come out in the next 4 months I'll just buy a Nexus 4 for now. I'll just never do OTAs on the One until a root is found or just sell the thing when I get a Nexus.
Btw, who is this Steven Bell guy? Does he have an HTC One from ATT that he tried to unlock?
Im glad i got the dev edition. I canceled ATT pre order day after i ordered. My Dev edition says backorder now but says shipment scheduled Tomorrow the 10th.
Either some lazy people here.. Or trolls.. It only takes an additional few seconds to flash a kernel if you need it. Those few seconds certainly wouldn't keep me from owning this device. This phone looks like it'll have a lot of Dev presence. S-off might not be far off. :victory:
I dont know who Steve bell is (guy paul obrien quoted) And how he would know The ATT is locked since its not out yet. I guess he's credible somewhat if Paul is repeating it.
Hmmm....im really starting to second guess this phone....im confused why att locks down HTC phones but not other android phones like Samsung? Sorry really new to HTC phones....
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I'd like to purchase a Developer Edition HTC One, but I also really want Stealth Black so AT&T is my only option.
Is it possible to flash the Developer Edition ROM and "Google Play Edition" ROMs to the AT&T version or are they different variants?
sofakng said:
I'd like to purchase a Developer Edition HTC One, but I also really want Stealth Black so AT&T is my only option.
Is it possible to flash the Developer Edition ROM and "Google Play Edition" ROMs to the AT&T version or are they different variants?
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You have the ability to do both :thumbup: Most of the action happens in the international thread and hopefully these two threads become one.
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You have the ability to do both :thumbup: Most of the action happens in the international thread and hopefully these two threads become one.
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Thanks!
Is there really any benefit to buying the Developer Edition (or Google Play Edition) then?
AT&T has the same price, plus the option to buy subsidized, etc. (and they have the black version, heh)
sofakng said:
Thanks!
Is there really any benefit to buying the Developer Edition (or Google Play Edition) then?
AT&T has the same price, plus the option to buy subsidized, etc. (and they have the black version, heh)
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Besides the carrier branding ,that's about it. :thumbup:
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godfirst said:
Besides the carrier branding ,that's about it. :thumbup:
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Sorry for my noobness, but I noticed a general lack of ROM selection in the AT&T One development thread vs. the unlocked one. Just wanted to confirm that those roms work without issue as well? Shattered the back of my fourth Optimus G and I'm sick of it so I'm just going to bite the bullet and pony up for an off contract One tomorrow. :crying:
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Sorry for my noobness, but I noticed a general lack of ROM selection in the AT&T One development thread vs. the unlocked one. Just wanted to confirm that those roms work without issue as well? Shattered the back of my fourth Optimus G and I'm sick of it so I'm just going to bite the bullet and pony up for an off contract One tomorrow. :crying:
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Yes, I'm running an international rom and firmware on a att branded phone.
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godfirst said:
Yes, I'm running an international room and firmware on a att branded phone.
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how did you do it?
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how did you do it?
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By unlocking bootloader, rooting, flashing recovery, s-off, supercid. I was only unlocked and rooted when I first started flashing international roms, but as time went on I did the rest.
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By unlocking bootloader, rooting, flashing recovery, s-off, supercid. I was only unlocked and rooted when I first started flashing international roms, but as time went on I did the rest.
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supercid?
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supercid?
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Here's an explanation of supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42348174
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sofakng said:
Thanks!
Is there really any benefit to buying the Developer Edition (or Google Play Edition) then?
AT&T has the same price, plus the option to buy subsidized, etc. (and they have the black version, heh)
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I personally believe the "Google Play Editions" are a rip-off. You lose 90% of the functionality (especially with the S4) that the phone was originally intended for. I had the same dilemma when I was in the market for my One. I ended up going with the AT&T black one. Its a great phone (almost futureproof) and the fact that there is the option to go back to Sense from Vanilla sweetens the deal
Hope this helps!
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I personally believe the "Google Play Editions" are a rip-off. You lose 90% of the functionality (especially with the S4) that the phone was originally intended for. I had the same dilemma when I was in the market for my One. I ended up going with the AT&T black one. Its a great phone (almost futureproof) and the fact that there is the option to go back to Sense from Vanilla sweetens the deal
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AT&T HTC One
Unlocked
Rooted
TWRP
S-OFF
I ran the Dev Edition RUU (BrightStar US_WWE-1.29.1540.16) or I think its the Dev Edition. on my At&T HTC One, no problems , works good. Only thing is battery life does not seem as good when I was on the RayGlobe rom.
Liskrig said:
I personally believe the "Google Play Editions" are a rip-off. You lose 90% of the functionality (especially with the S4) that the phone was originally intended for. I had the same dilemma when I was in the market for my One. I ended up going with the AT&T black one. Its a great phone (almost futureproof) and the fact that there is the option to go back to Sense from Vanilla sweetens the deal
Hope this helps!
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With S-OFF you can do anything. I've gone from stock to GPE to ARHD and back again several times. You can do it all with AT&T (and cheaper with contract).
sofakng said:
I'd like to purchase a Developer Edition HTC One, but I also really want Stealth Black so AT&T is my only option.
Is it possible to flash the Developer Edition ROM and "Google Play Edition" ROMs to the AT&T version or are they different variants?
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As others have said, Yes you can install the different ROMs in the AT&T HTC One but it depends on the experience that you want with your phone whether it is Sense or pure Google. I personally like the Sense experience and if there are any features that you want from the Google edition you can probably add it. I like the Zoe camera app but also wanted to try Google's photosphere so I just installed photosphere now I have both.
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Update Details: http://www.htc.com/us/software/software-updates/htc-one-x-sense-5-update/
AT&T RUU: https://s.basketbuild.com/filedl/de...5_18.27.11.35L_release_341689_signed_0220.exe
Sense 5 ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36091570&postcount=1
Q&A
I am on the stock ROM, but my bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted. Can I accept the OTA update?
No, you must relock your bootloader before taking the update. Otherwise, it will do nothing.
Can I accept the OTA update while on a custom ROM like Viper, Elegancia, Blackout, etc?
No, because the OTA checks to see if any files have been tampered with from stock, so your phone will refuse to update. You will have to go back to a stock ROM or flash the RUU to get the update.
Will the Telus One X+ be getting the OTA update?
It looks like Telus isn't getting the update according to this update schedule, which lacks any mention of the X+.
How do I get said update if I am not on the AT&T network?
Your only options at the moment are to flash a custom ROM based on Sense 5 or flash the RUU, as you cannot receive the OTA from AT&T while on another network.
Is there a way to get the update without updating the bootloader?
Yes, flashing a custom ROM based on Sense 5 will give you the update without updating your bootloader.
I tried updating, but it downloaded a 13 MB update and I'm still on Sense 4+. What gives?
The Sense 5 update is a two-part update. The first small update gets the phone ready for the larger and fully Sense 5 update.
But now I have to wait another 24 hours before I can check for updates again! What if I want it NOW?
You can go to Settings > Date and Time and uncheck Automatic Date/Time, then manually set the day ahead by one. This will allow you to check for updates again.
If you still have some unanswered questions or want something clarified leave a reply and I'll see what I can do. :fingers-crossed:
Good to know but I might be moving on to the One.
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It could have been a good phone if the development crew behind the OTA updates didn't **** around.
Now everything's been shifted towards newer tech. What a waste, and what I don't get is why were there two different versions of this phone to begin with? I'm sure AT&T is outside the US, and I'm sure the wireless communications are just the same everywhere else. Just plain stupidity in the development chain.
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It could have been a good phone if the development crew behind the OTA updates didn't **** around.
Now everything's been shifted towards newer tech. What a waste, and what I don't get is why were there two different versions of this phone to begin with? I'm sure AT&T is outside the US, and I'm sure the wireless communications are just the same everywhere else. Just plain stupidity in the development chain.
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AT&T may also be outside the US, but most international carriers and countries haven't fully taken advantage of LTE as of yet, so that kind of difference is more understandable. Hopefully once the new update comes out development will pick up again. I know I'll be looking into ROM development once the new update releases. :good:
OMG best news ive read this morning!
WindyCityRockr said:
After tweeting a few higher-ups from HTC on Twitter, I got confirmation here that the Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5 update will be arriving in Quarter 4, which is the time frame between October and December. According to him, it is still going through the carrier certification and approval process, but it looks like we haven't been forgotten after all! :highfive:
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Awesome, so because most of the roms are AT&T and telus are pretty much the same, that means the telus people are going to get the update to with custom roms?
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Awesome, so because most of the roms are AT&T and telus are pretty much the same, that means the telus people are going to get the update to with custom roms?
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Yup. The AT&T and Telus HOX+ have the same hardware, so if either carriers release the update, both get ROMs.
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lets hope that we dont have to wait til the end of Q4!
Time to continue the waiting game! But at least we know it will come eventually.. once AT&T rebloats it with their crapware...
WindyCityRockr said:
After tweeting a few higher-ups from HTC on Twitter, I got confirmation here that the Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5 update will be arriving in Quarter 4, which is the time frame between October and December. According to him, it is still going through the carrier certification and approval process, but it looks like we haven't been forgotten after all! :highfive:
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Bieber loves you man :thumbup:
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Does sense 5 have photosphere because that would be sweet.
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jabbathebum said:
Does sense 5 have photosphere because that would be sweet.
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From what I have read, it does not
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i wonder after this update if this phone can use different roms like the international version of this software. ive been reading through this form and i cant understand why this phone cant get roms. is it because of the bootloader?
las23 said:
i wonder after this update if this phone can use different roms like the international version of this software. ive been reading through this form and i cant understand why this phone cant get roms. is it because of the bootloader?
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The AT&T version has different radio hardware to the international version. Because of this the devices require different kernels amongst other things. This is why the different roms are not compatible nor will they ever be. This has been explained many times on the forums.
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Anyone think that with this update there might be some hope with new ROMs? Or will it not matter
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So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
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So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
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From AT&T? Doubt it. But like some say: times shows everything.
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WindyCityRockr said:
So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
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I think HTC are going to stop supporting older devices even more now. They made a massive quarterly loss this previous quarter. And in fact no smartphone manufacturer that has made this kind of loss has ever survived in one piece. The last two companies to do it was Blackberry and Nokia. Sucks really as HTC are the only smartphones i've ever really liked.
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Woo!.. just in time for the Nexus 5...
Hi all, I'm now back to an Android and HTC device after a while. I picked up an HTC One X + from eBay and it's an Telus unlocked handset. I did a fastboot and it showed CID 111111 and S-Off. My question is can I flash international Custom Roms on this? Or am I just limited to AT&T ones. (I believe as it's S-Off, I can install Int. Roms) Do I lose out on anything if I flash an international ROM.
Please help me out. I'm starting from scratch and the existence of 2 variants of this model has confused me.
Thanks in advance,
Jude
Yep you will loose something flashing an international rom ..... Your phone! ,lol
The NA HOX+ and the international one have diffrent radio hardware and are not compatible in any way.
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AndroHero said:
Yep you will loose something flashing an international rom ..... Your phone! ,lol
The NA HOX+ and the international one have diffrent radio hardware and are not compatible in any way.
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Great, thanks. Is there anyway I can get sense 5 and 4.2 on my NA HOX+?
Not untill one of the NA networks release a Sense 5 OTA.
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Not untill one of the NA networks release a Sense 5 OTA.
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I believe there's something coming up early Jan! Even the AT&T Rom would be fine right?
judebrent87 said:
I believe there's something coming up early Jan! Even the AT&T Rom would be fine right?
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i too have a unlockrd HTC ONE X + from telus, but i am using this phone in india. will i get an update OTA ( if a update ever happens) ?? and how about custom ROMs
I'm tired of waiting or AT&T and I want to convert my phone.
1. Get sunshine so you can s-off
2. Google the one million guides on how to do it
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CaptainNexus said:
I'm tired of waiting or AT&T and I want to convert my phone.
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You realize the Lollipop OTA started rolling out yesterday, and the RUU is posted?