I am picking up my S5 tomorrow. I am use to AT&T's bloatware, so I am wondering what bloatware comes preinstalled on the TMobile Galaxy S5?
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dustintinsley said:
I am picking up my S5 tomorrow. I am use to AT&T's bloatware, so I am wondering what bloatware comes preinstalled on the TMobile Galaxy S5?
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A Lot unfortunately. Name ID; T-Mobile TV; and Your T-Mobile Account. They don't take use a lot of memory. But you can't remove and they can be intrusive.
sonji3 said:
A Lot unfortunately. Name ID; T-Mobile TV; and Your T-Mobile Account. They don't take use a lot of memory. But you can't remove and they can be intrusive.
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If you root it, why would you not be able to remove the apps?
dustintinsley said:
I am picking up my S5 tomorrow. I am use to AT&T's bloatware, so I am wondering what bloatware comes preinstalled on the TMobile Galaxy S5?
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It's actually pretty good compared to previous Galaxy phones. You have a few T-Mobile apps as mentioned and the usual random apps from Samsung, but other third party apps are limited to Amazon, Flipboard and Lookout Mobile Security (may or may not consider Lookout bloat). The latter three can be turned off. If you root you should be able to freeze or delete apps.
Even if you don't root you can just disable them. Google made it a lot easier to deal with boat ware since android 4.0. And yes, if you root you can delete or Uninstall them.
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Just wondering how much VZW bloatware comes installed on the G3 and can any of be uninstalled?
Thanks in advance!
As usual it has VZ crap and Amazon. You can disable but unable remove them unless you root.
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The usual high amount. I thought it was demo store software running, but it was the out of box bloat.
Definite debloat candidate like most VZW Android devices.
I miss root and was thinking that I should get the International version.
· Can someone tell me of any problems I should expect?
· How do I go about ordering one? (living in USA)
· Is it worth going through the trouble or should I just get the USA version?
Sorry about all the questions, I just don't want to screw mess this up.
Thanks
International is sweet for customization of your phone from unlocked bootloader and root, but you lose Samsung Pay, and probably other things due to tripping knox. USA version, all will work as it is unmodified from the factory, but root will take a long time to happen if at all. I hop back and forth over the years between an international one year and carrier USA phone the next year depending on carrier upgrades. I don't ever have any issues with international phone & just popping in the SIM card from prior phone and having things work on AT&T.
Derzicom said:
I miss root and was thinking that I should get the International version.
· Can someone tell me of any problems I should expect?
· How do I go about ordering one? (living in USA)
· Is it worth going through the trouble or should I just get the USA version?
Sorry about all the questions, I just don't want to screw mess this up.
Thanks
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First think about why you want/need root.
Substratum theming is rootless on Android 8.0, there are a few adblockers available, Adhell and Disconnect Pro, also rootless.
The phone will have Dolby Atmos as well. Root really isn't that necessary anymore.
If you want full compatibility with your carrier, Wi-Fi calling, VoLTE, the highest possible LTE speeds, then get the US version.
If you want to trip KNOX, lose any KNOX related features including Samsung Pay, give yourself a headache from trying to flash the CSC of your carrier on it, and convincing the customer support on your carrier to provision things like VoLTE and WiFi calling, then by all means get yourself the Exynos.
Just my opinion, buying a phone purely because you want root, is a bad choice. Get the US version and save yourself the hassle.
murtaza02 said:
Root really isn't that necessary anymore.
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It depends.
If you only use phone for Twitter/FB and to play some games - sure you don't need root. But you probably won't even frequent this forum, let alone know about it, if that was the case.
I'd like to be proven wrong though, but things like Tasker, Titanium Backup, SQLite Debugger, and of course Xposed, still need root. I haven't yet tried rootless ad blockers that you mentioned, so not sure how well they work.
I also like to have custom recovery, but this is more about unlocking bootloader, than rooting, but given that it's the reason why you can't root US variants, it falls into the same category.
Until Android offers a proper "complete" backup, I don't even view non-rootable phones as a consideration, solely because of Titanium. I actually switched from iPhone just recently, bought a locked-bootloader USA phone, & was baffled by the inability to do a complete device backup. I'm not at all a fan of iPhone, but full device backup is something it's offered since...forever. So after spending a few days trying every non-root Android backup solution I could find, I eventually gave in & returned the phone, to be replaced with one that could be rooted....& thus, properly backed up.
/tldr: I'd definitely go international
metal450 said:
Until Android offers a proper "complete" backup, I don't even view non-rootable phones as a consideration, solely because of Titanium. I actually switched from iPhone just recently, bought a locked-bootloader USA phone, & was baffled by the inability to do a complete device backup. I'm not at all a fan of iPhone, but full device backup is something it's offered since...forever. So after spending a few days trying every non-root Android backup solution I could find, I eventually gave in & returned the phone, to be replaced with one that could be rooted....& thus, properly backed up.
/tldr: I'd definitely go international
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Never had an issue backing up the entire device Smart Switch.
Smart switch only backs up apps and not appdata. It does backup and restore SMS though which is nice but that's it.
murtaza02 said:
First think about why you want/need root.
Substratum theming is rootless on Android 8.0, there are a few adblockers available, Adhell and Disconnect Pro, also rootless.
The phone will have Dolby Atmos as well. Root really isn't that necessary anymore.
If you want full compatibility with your carrier, Wi-Fi calling, VoLTE, the highest possible LTE speeds, then get the US version.
If you want to trip KNOX, lose any KNOX related features including Samsung Pay, give yourself a headache from trying to flash the CSC of your carrier on it, and convincing the customer support on your carrier to provision things like VoLTE and WiFi calling, then by all means get yourself the Exynos.
Just my opinion, buying a phone purely because you want root, is a bad choice. Get the US version and save yourself the hassle.
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I second this. Also, don't forget about T-Mobile's 600Mhz, LTE Band 71. Only the U.S. version has it.
varcor said:
Never had an issue backing up the entire device Smart Switch.
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...I find that highly unlikely. You're saying that if you backup with Smart Switch & restore to a fresh phone, it will contain all your WhatsApp messages, LINE message, Viber messages, & all the data in each app you use? If not, then it's not backing up the 'entire device.'
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...I find that highly unlikely. You're saying that if you backup with Smart Switch & restore to a fresh phone, it will contain all your WhatsApp messages, LINE message, Viber messages, & all the data in each app you use? If not, then it's not backing up the 'entire device.'
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Yes, it backs up everything, apps included but I'm not sure if it's compatible with a non Samsung device.
varcor said:
Yes, it backs up everything, apps included but I'm not sure if it's compatible with a non Samsung device.
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I had an S7, and as of about 6 months ago, it definitely didn't backup any app data. My experience also corresponds with everything I've ever read about SmartSwitch. Examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-note-7/help/samsung-smart-switch-transfer-apps-app-t3444585
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/6afk66/does_the_smart_switch_desktop_program_backup_app
If it's actually backing up your app DATA (not apps, but app data), then either it's a new feature they just added within the last ~6 months, or you're mistaken.
I just restored S8 backup to S9 from the Smartswitch app and it did not restore my app data. I had to re-login to all my apps. Android has no backup solution unfortunately. Titanium backup is the best, Samsung needs to allow OEM unlocking on "Unlocked" model you buy from their website.
Are any of these versions free of carrier branding or bloatware ? I remember a while back purchasing a unlocked samsung phone at bestbuy and they sold me a verizon version stating it was the unlocked version.
Wondering if the bestbuy version or microsoft store version both of which are suppose to be unlocked variants have any carrier branding or bloatware.
As always thank you in advance.
I bought my unlocked one from Bestbuy and I can confirm there is no carrier apps on it whatsoever so you should be okay!!
thank you!
I just got one of these from Best Buy as well. There are some things that I am finding that are missing from the unlocked versus the carrier branded version such as no support for AT&T wifi calling, HD Voice, & Visual voicemail. The only thing I would like to get is native support for visual voicemail and I did find a workaround by side loading the AT&T Visual Voicemail APK since the official version from the play store says it is not compatible with my phone.
I think Samsung has a visual voice mail app included with the phone. I also believe att uses this app but they require the phone be provisioned with them. Basically on their system they need the imei and they make it a smartphone plan, unlike an iphone where they make it an iphone provision for facetime etc. Worth a shot to give them a call. I had to do this when switching from my iphone to my old N8. I wonder if enhanced msging works the same.
r0ck09 said:
I think Samsung has a visual voice mail app included with the phone. I also believe att uses this app but they require the phone be provisioned with them. .
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I would hope, but I've already talked with with AT&T Tech support regarding this. Currently this option is not available on factory unlocked S9/S9+ but is being looked into for a possible future firmware update. Not sure exactly when this will happen but they say it's up to Samsung to update. So how long it will be or even if it will be done is anybody's guess. Perhaps there might be a way to load the Carrier (SM-G965U) firmware to the unlocked (SM-G965U1) model. I've seen it's possible to go the other way but I'm not of the reverse.
It must work well with prepaid service and be easy to root. I am in USA.
Just need one for a month or two, then it will go into a drawer.
I have Verizon branded Samsung Galaxy Note3 and S5 but neither will work due to the VoLTE.
Thanks in advance!
steve1308 said:
It must work well with prepaid service and be easy to root. I am in USA.
Just need one for a month or two, then it will go into a drawer.
I have Verizon branded Samsung Galaxy Note3 and S5 but neither will work due to the VoLTE.
Thanks in advance!
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Look on swappa or eBay and look for bands compatible with the Sim card or service you use. Then search the device here to see if root is available before you but etc. No one here is going to research every phone for you, or will know the bands of the prepaid service you are going to use
What's the trick on T-Mobile LG V60 to get visual voicemail on the stock Android App? I even have the beta Google Phone app installed and no luck.
BlackKnight23 said:
What's the trick on T-Mobile LG V60 to get visual voicemail on the stock Android App? I even have the beta Google Phone app installed and no luck.
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Whoa I didn't know it was s thing. I gotta look more into this.
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Whoa I didn't know it was s thing. I gotta look more into this.
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https://www.change.org/p/t-mobile-c...mpaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition
Feel free to sign.
I use Google's Phone app/dialer on AT&T and don't have access to the native AOSP VVM app.
Hell, AT&T's own VVM app "isn't compatible" which this phone, according to the Google Play Store. And I bought the phone from AT&T. This isn't an unbranded or open-market model.
For now, I just installed the most recent AT&T VVM app from APKMirror, and that seems to be working fine. I'd love to be able to replace it with the stock Android VVM just to compare features and out of curiosity, if nothing else.
But alas, it seems as if its been AT&T's policy to force users to use their own VVM app a stock default (even if they don't actually start supporting their newest devices until weeks or months after release)!
I would guess there's a similar policy in place with T-Mo.
Mejilan said:
I use Google's Phone app/dialer on AT&T and don't have access to the native AOSP VVM app.
Hell, AT&T's own VVM app "isn't compatible" which this phone, according to the Google Play Store. And I bought the phone from AT&T. This isn't an unbranded or open-market model.
For now, I just installed the most recent AT&T VVM app from APKMirror, and that seems to be working fine. I'd love to be able to replace it with the stock Android VVM just to compare features and out of curiosity, if nothing else.
But alas, it seems as if its been AT&T's policy to force users to use their own VVM app a stock default (even if they don't actually start supporting their newest devices until weeks or months after release)!
I would guess there's a similar policy in place with T-Mo.
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What device? Google Pixel and OnePlus doesn't have this issue. I have beta Google Phone App and it won't work with my LG V60 at all
BlackKnight23 said:
What device? Google Pixel and OnePlus doesn't have this issue. I have beta Google Phone App and it won't work with my LG V60 at all
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I don't understand your question. I'm talking about my AT&T-bought LG V60.
It doesn't support AT&T's own VVM app (according to the Google Play Store, "device incompatible").
And it's AT&T's general policy to not allow the stock ASOP VVM on most Android devices (iPhones are completely exempt).
At least it was. If something's changed in the past year or two, I certainly don't see it reflected on my phone.
I had to go to APKMirror to get AT&T's VVM app on this phone, which is ridiculous, but not unusual.
I had to do the same for my old LG V30 until AT&T finally released a new version of their VVM app on the Google Play Store that worked on the V30.
As for the Google Phone app, I have it installed on my V60 and set up as my primary phone app/dialer, and it works fine. It just doesn't have the VVM component.
Mejilan said:
I don't understand your question. I'm talking about my AT&T-bought LG V60.
It doesn't support AT&T's own VVM app (according to the Google Play Store, "device incompatible").
And it's AT&T's general policy to not allow the stock ASOP VVM on most Android devices (iPhones are completely exempt).
At least it was. If something's changed in the past year or two, I certainly don't see it reflected on my phone.
I had to go to APKMirror to get AT&T's VVM app on this phone, which is ridiculous, but not unusual.
I had to do the same for my old LG V30 until AT&T finally released a new version of their VVM app on the Google Play Store that worked on the V30.
As for the Google Phone app, I have it installed on my V60 and set up as my primary phone app/dialer, and it works fine. It just doesn't have the VVM component.
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That is what I'm referring to that carriers block or LG and Samsung block. I have always been able to utilize Google phone app and get visual voicemail on Pixels and OnePlus even on carrier versions without issues.
I'm sick if seeing that error message from T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app. On my carrier Pixel or OnePlus using Google phone app it doesn't have issues at all. I have jump on demand and have since it came out. I have had over 30+ Android models with various Android versions and various T-Mobile Visual Voicemail apps and have seen this message on every device. I'm extremely annoyed, we should not be forced to utilize a third party app when stock Android has this feature.
BlackKnight23 said:
That is what I'm referring to that carriers block or LG and Samsung block. I have always been able to utilize Google phone app and get visual voicemail on Pixels and OnePlus even on carrier versions without issues.
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It's the U.S. carriers, not the OEMs. And it's been known about for years.
Hell, I could never get my open-market LG V30 to utilized AT&T's VoLTE hi-fi calling. My phone supported all the right bands.
Then, why? Because I didn't buy my phone from AT&T. My phone's open-market IMEI was on a blacklist.
Or perhaps, since I didn't buy my V30 from AT&T, it's simply that my phone's IMEI wasn't on a sanctioned white-list.
I know for sure that a few years ago, a Pixel with an AT&T SIM couldn't access Android's stock VVM app.
Slip in a Verizon SIM, and you could. It was, and remains, ridiculous.
Now, it could be that AT&T and Google (and, I suppose, OnePlus) struck deals in the last year or two.
But that's only for their phones. Phones made by other OEMs are typically SOL.
I mean, you can Google the issue for most big (and minor) devices out there and find pages of AT&T forum results complaining about the situation.
It's sadly well documented.
With the work around I have always been able to get this working on a lot of devices. The work around is to install the T-Mobile app, allow to fully setup, uninstall, reboot and wait a few minutes it's there. The LG and Samsungs don't work even with the work around. I am hoping if I get enough signatures the carriers will be forced to change.
BlackKnight23 said:
With the work around I have always been able to get this working on a lot of devices. The work around is to install the T-Mobile app, allow to fully setup, uninstall, reboot and wait a few minutes it's there. The LG and Samsungs don't work even with the work around. I am hoping if I get enough signatures the carriers will be forced to change.
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Need root to do it.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Need root to do it.
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Are there ADB/Fastboot equivalents that could also get the job done, absent a root solution?
Just curious. Thank you.
Mejilan said:
Are there ADB/Fastboot equivalents that could also get the job done, absent a root solution?
Just curious. Thank you.
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No, you need to edit XML files
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BROKEN1981 said:
No, you need to edit XML files
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Would you please be more specific on what XML files to mod for those that are willing to perform the modifications?
Ascii3 said:
Would you please be more specific on what XML files to mod for those that are willing to perform the modifications?
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Sorry man, I don't remember
BROKEN1981 said:
Sorry man, I don't remember
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That is unfortunate.