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2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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Me?
Yeah I have been doing that since that fix was posted...it helps with life and awake times but it is still horrific compared to other phones...whether I reboot from power menu..power of/on...or whatever....it needs to be fixed...I don't understand why it does this...im about to delete the things that allow it to communicate with moto databases lol...
compare the battery capacity of other phones, most other phones come with at LEAST an 1800mAH battery, this thing is 1500mAH if you're lucky, couple that with 2.3.4's reporting bug and you end up thinking you're going dead much faster than you actually are.
I spend over half my days hovering at 15% or lower according to the phone, but I've also realized that it lies, alot... like my ex.
what does that actually do? =o
like what if you reboot a couple hours after unplugging?
... Christ what was 2.3.4 for if they didn't even get some of this stuff cleaned up
it prevents the idle process from "running away" when you plug it in it essentially disables the idle process, when it goes to re-enable it, it never stops, it takes up CPU cycles and burns the battery down for no reason and it will do it from the moment you unplug your charger/USB cable until you restart the phone.
why? beats me.
I thought you no longer needed to reboot after unplugging on 2.3.4? I did it every morning on 2.3.3, but stopped after updating to .4
I'm confused with this. Wouldn't a phone idle of 70% mean you the phone has been sitting there not being used?
As far as sleep, i use a cpu monitoring app from time to time and it shows my phone in "deep sleep" for multiple hrs when I'm not using the phone; my phone idle will show an equal high %, too.
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that list indicates power consumption. if I reboot my phone in the morning, idle stays around 10-15%, if I don't, that number skyrockets 40-45% and by 5 or 6 pm, I'm hunting for a place to plug in.
my biggest boosts in battery life came from turning on "data saver" disabling "background data", anytime you can make the 3g radio shut off, you're saving TONS of power
I also just upgraded to a BH6X battery, it was the ONLY way I could make it through a full day when I was working in Cheyenne, Wyoming (cell service there, not so great) I also use wifi as much as possible 'cause it seems to draw less current.
battery life and signal strength definitely have a correlation. the less signal you have the quicker that battery dies.
also, "SuperDim" (available on the market) is a HUGE battery saver, not to mention the fact that the automatic light sensor just doesn't make the screen dim enough, ever. I kinda miss the semi transreflective screen in my G1, I never had to crank the brightness way up to see that one in broad daylight, made the colors funny but at least it was legible. but that's the price you pay for pixel density
I've never had bad enough battery life to try Juice Defender but my roommate uses it on his bionic and it does pretty well. His only complaint is having to load facebook or his browser twice to get data to come back on.
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I am getting amazing battery life! Coming from a myTouch4G which would last maybe half of the day, its amazing!
I was at 51% when I plugged in my phone today. I have been using it all day and pretty extensively.
No juice defender either...
This is a mysterious problem for me also. I could have phone booted
up full charge everything that load's up is started. I could turn on airplane mode not do anything else for the day. (So No data no phones) And every-time I bring up screen I will see the amount of apps running go's up (ghost apps)
battery down & less & less ram available.
Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
What's This Phone Doing Behind My Back??
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ashclepdia said:
I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
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it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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Yep, it's a kernel bug, from what I understand. Ugh.
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Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
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If you manually tell your phone to go to sleep, you have to long-press the power button for like 6 seconds to wake it back up.
This bug happens on multiple Motorola phones (bionic and d3). I know for a fact that this has been brought up multiple times to Motorola thru customer complaints, Motorola feedback program and carrier complaints. But for some reason they don't care or feel its a big issue. For issues like this, I wish they would unlock the bootloader.
I just installed this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246822
Have just been running it for a little bit but what I can see is that it definitely has an impact on battery life (in the good way). My battery seems to be dropping slower.
Thanks to 0vermind two posts above me.
how is the BH6X battery for you?
how long does it kick for? =)
Watercycle said:
2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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That was me in "phone awake" thread.
What it solved for me was the chunks of time phone is awake(when screen has been off) are extremely reduced compared to when the setting is checked.
Only thing is that once in a while(mainly after bootstrapper use or a battery pull) the date/time is messed up. Easily fixed by turning the setting on for 5-15 seconds til it fixes itself and I turn it back off
Ash,
Yea discovered that today when I put in new class 10 16gb sdcard. No worries easy fix like you said super find been using your discovery for a week know working great.
In my case, after updating to new firmware and software my battery full capacity indicator has become sort of crazy (for the worst).
Before updating I got a solid 1390 mAh always. Now It depends on the day, but It never surpases the 1270 mAh. Barrier.
Today I´m getting a poor 1170 mAh.
Strange thing.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
luisillons said:
In my case, after updating to new firmware and software my battery full capacity indicator has become sort of crazy (for the worst).
Before updating I got a solid 1390 mAh always. Now It depends on the day, but It never surpases the 1270 mAh. Barrier.
Today I´m getting a poor 1170 mAh.
Strange thing.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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From my review, my battery seems to be getting better now, first week after the update, battery was dreadful, it seems to be a whole lot better now. Give it a week, if it continues, email Nokia support, since you hopefully have your warranty, they'll check and replace it if it's faulty, I'm suffering from some horrible notification bug, that's worse, getting your notification when you enter message/whatsapp...-_-
Have same problem. The last update have reduced full charge capacity from 1420 mA to 1303 mA and it's still decreasing every charge. Hope is's soft bug, otherwise nokia should exchange killed batteries phones.
Nokia says not to trust their diagnostics tool when it comes to degrading capacity. The battery should be fine anyway unless it reports less than 1000mAh.
Nokia's biggest mistake was making the Diagnostics available to every user. Now everybody thinks Nokia stole their precious mAh...
Note: It doesn't even matter the update gave us some hours in autonomy.
Yep. Without it most users would actually enjoy their phones.
So the Diagnostics tool gives a bad reading?
Today, when I plugged the charger off, the charge percent inmediately went down from 100% to 98%. Maybe there´s some kind of software bug thay doesn´t give the real battery performance.
P.S.: I actually enjoy my phone. Love it.
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So the Diagnostics tool gives a bad reading?
Today, when I plugged the charger off, the charge percent inmediately went down from 100% to 98%. Maybe there´s some kind of software bug thay doesn´t give the real battery performance.
P.S.: I actually enjoy my phone. Love it.
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This happened to me also this morning. Took my phone off charge, unlocked it and then was at 98% but going to keep an eye on it throughout the day. I got roughly 15 hours use yesterday and 5 hours of that was when i was at work.
I am getting terrible battery life after the update. 100 % at last mid night. By the morning it is at 85%. It seems the battery life got worsen by a 40 % decrease before the update.
Should I restore my Lumia 800?
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
dannejanne said:
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
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Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
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Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
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I have made a factory reset just for the heck of it. Also I have recently started rebooting my phone with the charger plugged after every charge and then unplug when it is booted again. So far no drain after doing so but too early to make any conclusions.
I reseted the phone on a charge cycle with drain and after the reset the drain stopped. So something weird is going on. Hadn't really installed apps etc... syncing/location etc off...
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Yup, you're right, I'm getting that, some days it's pretty good, and some days it's just damn awful.
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Unfortunately I do not even have the good days result. After I updated my Lumia to .11500 my battery drains really quick with doing nothing. Before going to sleep I had about 60%, waking up it was empty, in 6 hours! Before I could last about 1.5 days with my phone. Hardly 10 hours with normal use. 3G on but wifi and bt off.
Does anyone know how to change this or to change it back to the earlier version of software?
I love this phone and its OS, but the battery consumption is just wrong!
Thanks.
dannejanne said:
I get weird battery issue on my latest 800. About every second charge the battery drains very fast doing nothing. The next charge it is fine. Next after that it can drain. And so it goes. Something fishy with software indeed. It was preloaded with 11501 from factory so I have not updated myself.
Nokia need to take a detailed look at this. As it is now they fully think the issue is fixed when in face it is not. As the topic implies it actually made things worse compared to old firmware. Those 15% charge that were lost in old firmware it lasted longer anyway because it had no drain.
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Same issue with battery drain. Not that frequent though. Two times in two weeks. It´s random I think. Thing is that I´ve noticed that it has occurred when the phone shows maximum than my average battery capacity.
Normally phone shows 1170 mAh when fully charged. Strangely enough I get a very decent battery life. More than 24 hours with normal to heavy use.
But today it showed 1370 mAh fully charged and it´s not passed 12 hour barrier.
luisillons said:
Same issue with battery drain. Not that frequent though. Two times in two weeks. It´s random I think. Thing is that I´ve noticed that it has occurred when the phone shows maximum than my average battery capacity.
Normally phone shows 1170 mAh when fully charged. Strangely enough I get a very decent battery life. More than 24 hours with normal to heavy use.
But today it showed 1370 mAh fully charged and it´s not passed 12 hour barrier.
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Since I made that factory reset the drain has not come back so far. Now I get good battery life and it's usually at 70% when I go to sleep at nights with moderate use throughout the day.
Is this what everyone is doing for best battery or is it just me?
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
Schilkeplayer said:
Unfortunately I do not even have the good days result. After I updated my Lumia to .11500 my battery drains really quick with doing nothing. Before going to sleep I had about 60%, waking up it was empty, in 6 hours! Before I could last about 1.5 days with my phone. Hardly 10 hours with normal use. 3G on but wifi and bt off.
Does anyone know how to change this or to change it back to the earlier version of software?
I love this phone and its OS, but the battery consumption is just wrong!
Thanks.
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Just restore your backup in Zune. Connect the phone, go to the phone tab. Settings -> updates -> restore. Good luck!
devildevel said:
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
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Unnecessary restriction..
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Unnecessary restriction..
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What to do. Now a days all smart phones come with great features and poor battery life.
By the way, anybody knows how to turn off fast dormancy in our lumia 800? I used to get much better battery life by turning off fast dormancy in android phones ( obviously my network is not supporting the feature though)
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devildevel said:
Used to get heavy drain when I get the mobile:
I had to do below:
1) Location services off - i use very low though.
2) Removing people tile
3) Display brightness - LOW
4) Settings->Applications->Games->Connect to Xbox LIVE-> OFF
(with ON, used to drain battery alot atleast for me)
5) Settings->Background tasks->Weather->Off
(not sure of this, but I don't use it so I switched off)
6) Removing XBox Live Tile (In fact all live tiles like App Highlights etc...)
7) Date+time -> Set automatically -> OFFFF (I don't think we need it unless we go to other country)
8) Phone Update -> Turn off notifications
By the way,
I use push email outlook on always
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So you're limiting the phones key features for a battery problem? Why not contact Nokia? I must be honest, if Nokia were to tell me to switch off so many features of my phone, I would tell them to kindly p*** off, as I've had many phones before it that didn't pose a problem like this, if it's a fault, they should act to it, not make you rectify their mistakes. At the end of the day, if you broke your phone accidently, would they fix it for you? So why should you?
Hi everyone
So I recently got a S2, upgraded it from stock Gingerbread to stock ICS via Kies, then flashed CM9. CM9 was great, but I quickly noticed worse battery drain than that of GB. I sorted out all wakelocks, now facebook is the top one in better battery stats list and it's only 10mins in a day so I don't think that's a problem. When charging, vbus_present shows up and keeps the phone from sleeping, but that's a normal thing when the phone is plugged, right? CPUspy shows the phone is in deep sleep the majority of time I don't use it, so I assume I have no wakelock problem.
But even then, the battery still seems a bit bad. When in deep sleep with wifi and mobile data off, it would lose around 1.5% per hour; and with moderate/high use (internet with wifi or gaming), I'd be lucky to have it last 3 hours. Charging to 100% from zero takes about 3 hours.
I also tried recalibrating the battery through BC, but haven't noticed too much of a difference.
Recently I found a guide on disabling fast dormancy via the build.prop file. Still waiting for results though.
So, my questions
1, My battery usage seems normal, doesn't it? 1.5% per deep sleep hour is acceptable I guess, but 3 hours of usage seems a bit short. Too short.
2, What effects does fast dormancy have?
1) Totally unacceptable. Mine lasts at least 7-8 hours with high use..
Does your phone heat up while the heavy use ???
What brightness level do you use for the display ???
How many apps do you have that can gain internet access ???
2) By default, the Samsung Galaxy S II has Fast Dormancy support enabled. One of the goals of Fast Dormancy is to increase the battery life of a device, by limiting the amount of signaling between the phone and the cell network. But, when Fast Dormancy it is not enabled in the network and is enabled on the phone it ironically works the other way around, and actually drains more battery than before.
Luckily, Fast Dormancy can be disabled on the phone. For the Galaxy S II, do the following:
Dial *#9900#
Press “Disable Fast Dormancy“
Press “Exit“.
Easy as that!
Thanks for the suggestion I have brightness manual and at around 20%. Wifi is disabled when not used, and mobile data is always turned off unless I need it, so basically apps only get internet access when I want them to. I have also disabled sync for both google and facebook, but fb still pushes notifications to me while it's connected. Is that a major battery drain, and if yes, how to disable it?
Anyways, facebook, instagram, youtube are the only apps than can access the internet. No messengers or anything that may keep a wakelock.
My phone doesn't heat up during normal use, maybe a bit when I do some gaming (Max Payne?)
Also, *#9900# doesn't do anything on my phone. It doesn't bring up a menu or anything like that.
Bump. Guys?
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Install BetterBatteryStats (search for it on here/Google Play), might help you nail what's causing the drain.
Yes I did, as said in my original post. After a night the highest wakelock are just around 10 minutes, and that one was facebook. Uninstalling it however had no effect.
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Thinking logically, there's got to be something else in those stats (partial wakelocks in particular) that's causing that drain. There's no way having fast dormancy enabled/disabled is either going to cause/fix the drain you've mentioned getting '3 hours of usage'; (I can get 5 & a bit hours screen on with CM9 & variable usage/mostly 'moderate' use) given everything else you say you've tried.
Post BBS logs here if you want someone to have a look.
Edit to add - Also post a screenshot of the 2nd screen in settings/battery, the one that has history 'details' at the top, with the 'mobile network signal' bar underneath the main battery graph.
Here you go: pastebin.com/1UwicChJ
I just registered half a day ago and don't have enough posts yet to paste links, so sorry the phone was only on battery for nearly 2 hours with some light browsing and facebook, but I hope it works.
Anyway, I looked through my running processes, and dsp manager is the only non-OS process running, besides facebook. I got CM9 so it came by default. Could dspmanager be the culprit?
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It's a new phone he's got there and I doubt it could be anything battery related itself.
I'm using CM9 nightlies and I get around 9 hours moderate use. It has been said though that a lot of these CM9 builds have battery drain and heat issues.
I use Juicedefender to help with the battery life which seems to work.
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Edit to add - Also post a screenshot of the 2nd screen in settings/battery, the one that has history 'details' at the top, with the 'mobile network signal' bar underneath the main battery graph.
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About 1/3 of this time was on wifi browsing. The drop is much more drastic if I play games.
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A couple of observations. There's nothing that stands right out in the BBS log. The other one is, looking at that graph you've lost ~15% over a bit under 2 hrs. The screen has been on most of the time the phone has been awake (confirmed by the BBS log) if you look at the respective bars. You've also been using WiFi for most of the time the screen has been on/phone has been awake.
Roughly speaking, going by the screenshot, you'd get ~5hrs+/- screen on time if you kept using the phone in the same way you had during that just under 2 hrs, and this is pretty much normal. I haven't had drain issues for ages, so I double checked my details on the 2nd screen of settings/battery to make sure CM9 is reporting these details accurately (screenshot attached). Certainly in my case, this screenshot reflects what my phone had been doing for the just under 5 hrs it had been off charge/since last reboot; that is, >90% of the time in idle/deep sleep. So it probably isn't CM9 reporting these details inaccurately in your case either.
The BBS log & screenshot don't illustrate the problem you talked about in your OP. Now, if I had to take a stab in the dark at what's causing problems when you do have them (and FWIW, I do believe you're having the problems you mentioned in your OP at times), in the absence of any other info, maybe your WiFi router is constantly sending the phone packets (what's been referred to as a 'dirty router' on here before) when you're connected to WiFi & not actually using it. This scenario has been known to cause relatively high levels of drain.
So to be honest with you, based on that screenshot & the BBS log, I'm not really seeing a problem.
Now, if you want to post the same again when you actually have a problem with drain similar to what you described in your OP, happy to have a look at them. But for that ~2hrs covered by the BBS log & screenshot you posted, that's pretty much normal.
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A couple of observations. There's nothing that stands right out in the BBS log. The other one is, looking at that graph you've lost ~15% over a bit under 2 hrs. The screen has been on most of the time the phone has been awake (confirmed by the BBS log) if you look at the respective bars. You've also been using WiFi for most of the time the screen has been on/phone has been awake.
Roughly speaking, going by the screenshot, you'd get ~5hrs+/- screen on time if you kept using the phone in the same way you had during that just under 2 hrs, and this is pretty much normal. I haven't had drain issues for ages, so I double checked my details on the 2nd screen of settings/battery to make sure CM9 is reporting these details accurately (screenshot attached). Certainly in my case, this screenshot reflects what my phone had been doing for the just under 5 hrs it had been off charge/since last reboot; that is, >90% of the time in idle/deep sleep. So it probably isn't CM9 reporting these details inaccurately in your case either.
The BBS log & screenshot don't illustrate the problem you talked about in your OP. Now, if I had to take a stab in the dark at what's causing problems when you do have them (and FWIW, I do believe you're having the problems you mentioned in your OP at times), in the absence of any other info, maybe your WiFi router is constantly sending the phone packets (what's been referred to as a 'dirty router' on here before) when you're connected to WiFi & not actually using it. This scenario has been known to cause relatively high levels of drain.
So to be honest with you, based on that screenshot & the BBS log, I'm not really seeing a problem.
Now, if you want to post the same again when you actually have a problem with drain similar to what you described in your OP, happy to have a look at them. But for that ~2hrs covered by the BBS log & screenshot you posted, that's pretty much normal.
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Okay, much appreciated so I guess I'll take it from your reply that 5 hours with wifi browsing isn't too bad. Seems okay, but I still find it a bit strange that (in my case) wifi browsing uses just as much battery as games do. I always thought it was a light activity!
Or maybe it wasn't the battery that had a problem, but that I set my expectations a bit too high. I came to this S2 from a BlackBerry 9700, whose battery would last half a week with very frequent use. But anyway, I just got this phone for a week, so I consider myself a pretty heavy user. Probably when I get familiar with it, I won't feel the need to play with it every five minutes and battery will last a bit longer then! xD
Nah. Anything with screen on is far from 'light activity'. Screen consumes far & away the most juice. In saying that, I've seen some people on here say they can get 8-9 hrs screen on with 2000mAh battery. How they do it I have absolutely no idea.
But if yeah, 5 hrs with the screen on most of the time whether browsing or playing games (games in particular are very CPU/GPU intensive & thus use a lot of zzzzs; unless they're really basic games like chess or similar), or anything else isn't too bad. Can you do better ? Obviously, if people say they can get 8-9 hrs. But it's not a matter of doing A, B & C and you'll magically end up with massive screen on times. Every phone is setup & used differently, and getting the absolute max out of every charge takes a lot of trial & error and experimenting with settings/setup.
There are tons of threads about the subject on here if you feel like going down that path. For me, I'm happy with the battery life I get these days because you can really obsess over it & spend a lot of time stressing over it/trying to maximise it for often very little gain. I'd rather simply use my phone a lot during the day & charge it at night.
Yeah Crackberries are like Japanese cars, they can run on fumes pretty much ;-) Having a dual core processor, a decent GPU & a huge screen kinda changes things.
There is one thing you can do fairly easily tho. And that's to make sure the phone spends as much time as possible in deep sleep when you're not using it. That will ensure that you have enough juice to get you by when you do want to use it. Simple ways to help achieve that is to turn off data/WiFi completely when you're not using it (tho many people don't like to do this for different reasons; which is perfectly OK if you're happy to live with the resultant drain), and make sure you've got no apps that are doing things they shouldn't be doing (like syncing, for example) while the phone should be sleeping. Again, there are lots of threads about same if you ever feel like a bit of light reading ;-)
So yeah, if you do find you experience drain that's not normal/outside the usual pattern you have, definitely post details & people can have a look for you. And as you said, you'll get to know what really is normal with regard to drain & so on is as you use the phone more (I tended to use it constantly for that first couple of weeks as well).
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Okay, much appreciated so I guess I'll take it from your reply that 5 hours with wifi browsing isn't too bad. Seems okay, but I still find it a bit strange that (in my case) wifi browsing uses just as much battery as games do. I always thought it was a light activity!
Or maybe it wasn't the battery that had a problem, but that I set my expectations a bit too high. I came to this S2 from a BlackBerry 9700, whose battery would last half a week with very frequent use. But anyway, I just got this phone for a week, so I consider myself a pretty heavy user. Probably when I get familiar with it, I won't feel the need to play with it every five minutes and battery will last a bit longer then! xD
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Already took such measures. Wakelocks killed my battery over my first night with the phone, and I woke up after 7 hours to find a ~50% battery completely empty. Now things are alright, I clear CPUSpy stats before I sleep and wake up to around 95% of deep sleep time. Overnight drain varies between 5 and 10%.
And yes, yes you are right. Maybe I should stop going nuts. I'm checking BBS and CPUSpy every hour, reading every XDA thread on battery, and calculating my battery drainage every morning I wake up :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Re: dirty/'noisy' WiFi networks, have a look at this post as an example of what I was talking about above.
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Re: dirty/'noisy' WiFi networks, have a look at this post as an example of what I was talking about above.
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Umm...so I just woke up, and noticed a wakelock in the kernel category. It was PowerManagerService, and it occupied around half an hour. Overnight, aftet I've slept 10 hours (got a day off ), my battery came from 24% down to 13%. That's a rate of roughly 1% per hour. Is that normal? And also, what is that PowetManagerService wakelock?
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Fantastic. Looks like you got your 10 posts That tip is about as useful as "don't plant cauliflowers in concrete".
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Turn off wifi and dont play games and your batter will last longer
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Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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I also use Accubattery, and I add the screenshot as an attachment,
but I don't understand why the battery drains when I use the 3G / 4G connection or the wifi,
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if I do not deactivate the 4g or the wifi at night I lose 15% to 20% easy, I do not know what to do even when the phone is on us998 it is the same thing
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I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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i was on us998 oreo, it was the same thing no diferance it was even worse, that's why I follow part on h933 oreo then pie to see if it's the same thing, but nothing is change
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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Hello
Here I did what you told me, I deleted facebook and I took screenshots for daily use and then I deactivate the dark mode and nothing is the same thing
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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for the images I have hosted them other by it's good
and for the little story, my v30 was on h93120a
I converted it to us99810b then us99820h with the ChazzMatt method, but the battery was not terrible, but I follow it stayed like its about 6 months, well when pie came out I tried to update I blocked on the logo lg then I follow back on h99820h, then I saw that some person converted their us998 to h93330k I did the same thing with the ChazzMatt method through nougat and then pie
by the way that its could improve but nothing, in the end the discharge during the night is better
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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for the brightness it is automatic I do not touch it, and for the SOT I have never exceeded 4:30 (and it is very rare that I am a SOT that exceeds 4 hours) I voice people who say that it s arrives to have 8 hours of SOT "even 9h to 10h" for some, I told myself that my phone had a real problem of autonomy
Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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thank you very much for your help i will try advised calf and return the answer to you
jassim0104 said:
Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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the problem is that with oreo it was worse than on pie, the battery did not even hold the day, it is for this that I passed pie
How are people finding this huge 5000mah battery?
In all honesty, I was expecting a little better performance. Perhaps it's still too early to tell but I'm on my 3rd battery cycle, have "balanced" battery mode active, power saving feature applied to most apps other than essentials, don't have Facebook installed etc. Have rooted and also Universal Doze for magisk installed.
I'm currently on 10% with 5hr30min SOT. Granted, I have been listening to Spotify today but over WiFi.
Just doesn't seem to be blowing me away and not feeling like my battery is 25% bigger than my previous Xperia 1 ii, with the exact same setup/general usage. If anything feels the same size, maybe even less?!
Used BetterBatteryStats and nothing seems out of place there.
Will continue to monitor. Still extremely happy with this phone.
Hmm so quick update, I had Dual WiFi (blend of 2g/5ghz network) enabled previously however today it's now disabled.
I'm currently on 45 mins SOT and still at 97% battery!!
Anyone else any experience with this? I haven't changed any apps but seems this setting may have been the cause of high drain for me....
Will continue to monitor....
My battery life has been pretty good after a few cycles
Not bad. I keep it on mobile data most of the time. And i charge it only to 90% with a 500mAh charger. And i do have Facebook app, a Garmin smart watch and many synced accounts that run in the background
Not bad at all IMO. Received the phone today and it was at around 40 percent. Haven't charged yet. Refresh rate is on auto.
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How are people finding this huge 5000mah battery?
In all honesty, I was expecting a little better performance. Perhaps it's still too early to tell but I'm on my 3rd battery cycle, have "balanced" battery mode active, power saving feature applied to most apps other than essentials, don't have Facebook installed etc. Have rooted and also Universal Doze for magisk installed.
I'm currently on 10% with 5hr30min SOT. Granted, I have been listening to Spotify today but over WiFi.
Just doesn't seem to be blowing me away and not feeling like my battery is 25% bigger than my previous Xperia 1 ii, with the exact same setup/general usage. If anything feels the same size, maybe even less?!
Used BetterBatteryStats and nothing seems out of place there.
Will continue to monitor. Still extremely happy with this phone.
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Are you more satisfied with the ZenFone 7 than with the Xperia 1 II?
How does the loudspeaker compares?
Im in doubt between the two.
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Are you more satisfied with the ZenFone 7 than with the Xperia 1 II?
How does the loudspeaker compares?
Im in doubt between the two.
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Overall, yeah I'm very happy with this phone.
Comparing the two:
- the speakers were better on the Xperia, front facing always wins as avoids you accidentally covering the bottom firing one up on the Zenfone plus the top earpiece one isn't great. But, it's still good enough and they sound decent to keep me happy
- the less wider feel on the Xperia was also very nice but I really don't mind the feel of the zenfonr
- the camera on the Xperia was very good, but I just didn't feel like I was amazed by the point and click usage. Which I know it was really aimed for Pro users, but still....
- for the Zenfone I love the feel of it. A very fast phone, great camera, I'm a big fan of the flip camera, very good selfies (more concerned about video calls as the Xperia has a horrible smoothening effect which they didn't fix)
-the led on the Xperia was very nice whereas there's not as many colours on the Zenfone
Ultimately one of the biggest factors for me is rom and gcam development. It was virtually non existent for the Xperia but I enjoy it too much to sacrifice it. Already there is a decent gcam for zenfone and havoc & omnirom are being worked on
So I guess it boils down to what matters the most to you. Both very good options to be honest!
My first cycle from 100% down to 0% (won't be doing this often). Auto refresh, mainly on wifi (95%), AOD off, balanced profile. Not bad > 7 hour SOT.
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My first cycle from 100% down to 0% (won't be doing this often). Auto refresh, mainly on wifi (95%), AOD off, balanced profile. Not bad > 7 hour SOT.
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On 90hz?
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On 90hz?
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Auto refresh rate as I said.
I'm gonna try turning wifi off and see how long the SOT is from 100%-0% using just 4G (5G is off as my carrier doesn't support it).
Might try forcing 90Hz on a separate occasion too.
5 hr 53 min SOT ON dual sim 4G only.
battery life is good. not as good as zen 6. However its a all day phone. Charges really fast. Fastest charge so far.
90Hz is noticeable.. Keep your NFC , Bluetooth and especially Location off to save allot more battery..
Overal the phone is a winner .. only major peoblem.. I cant seem find ANY info to get 4g or even 5g here in USA> I thin this phone is NOT compatible for USA cell bands.. I even brought it to att store and they couldnt ge it to work past 3g.
This battery could be better, Asus need optimize better the kernel. I have bad performance on game Genshin impact (drop frames) and bad standby, 6h it goes 3,5%, on my motorola edge plus it goes 1% with the same condition.
I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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Are you on Balanced profile still? And is Adaptive Battery enabled or disabled? Optiflex is meant to "saves battery on standby" too lol
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I had pretty bad standby at first but then I disabled all battery optimizations and got great standby. I think "Optiflex" was the cause of it. Just turn it off.
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Just disable optiflex ?
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Are you on Balanced profile still? And is Adaptive Battery enabled or disabled? Optiflex is meant to "saves battery on standby" too lol
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Just disable optiflex ?
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The only battery saving setting I still have enabled is "hibernate apps" under battery settings. Optiflex, adaptive battery, detect battery-draining apps all off. Using balanced power settings but I'm mostly on 90Hz.
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The only battery saving setting I still have enabled is "hibernate apps" under battery settings. Optiflex, adaptive battery, detect battery-draining apps all off. Using balanced power settings but I'm mostly on 90Hz.
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How much you feel the stand by battery conservation ?
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How much you feel the stand by battery conservation ?
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From using about 1% per hour to about 2% in 8 hours sleep. Check your APN also, I've seen some mention the phone does not use the right one automatically.
Going from the Zenfone 6 to this Zenfone 7, there is certainly a slight drop in battery endurance. The better chipset/hardware etc I don't feel explains the difference but it won't put me off the phone.
Just wish phone batteries would massively improve!