Anyone know the difference, or where can we check all the LG V10 variations?
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LG V10 H961N - Frequency Bands and Network Compatibility
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/O2JwO/lg-v10-h961n
LG V10 H962 - Frequency Bands and Network Compatibility
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/A3pwO/lg-v10-h962
LG V10 H968 - Frequency Bands and Network Compatibility
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/OemXO/lg-v10-h968
Thanks for short but important thread. Really useful.
Any difference in software?
From GSMarena:
I just got the H962 model. Allow me to compare and contrast it to the H961N:
1.The H962 comes with a charger that has an American plug. The H961N comes with an asian plug and will require a special adapter if you use it in the United States. So the H962 has what you need to charge it right out of the box in the US.
2. The default language on the H962 is in english. The default language on the H961N is some asian language(probably Korean) and so when you boot the H961n up the first time the setup screen wont be in english.
3. The H962 is not tied to any phone carrier. And so it has absolutely zero carrier bloatware apps and it also has absolutely no carrier tramp stamp on it. The H961N is tied to a Korean carrier (LG's Uplus carrier) and so you will see the Uplus stamp on the back of the phone, you will also see it on the boot up screen, and you will see plenty of korean language Uplus bloatware apps that will take an hour to uninstall. The H962 is the pure clean carrier free version and only shows the LG logo on bootup and has the LG logo stamp on the back.
4. The H962 has an fm radio and comes with an fm Radio app installed on it. The H961N also has an fm radio with the radio app.
5. Both the H962 and H961n provide the same band support in the United States. Neither will support 4G in the US.
6. Both H962 and H961N have 64GB internal storage.
So with this, you can see that the H962 is the better variant to have over the H961n. NewEgg.com sells the H962 (they have it incorrectly listed as H961n, but it is actually H962). You can probably find the H962 at other online retailers as well.
melorib said:
From GSMarena:
I just got the H962 model. Allow me to compare and contrast it to the H961N:
1.The H962 comes with a charger that has an American plug. The H961N comes with an asian plug and will require a special adapter if you use it in the United States. So the H962 has what you need to charge it right out of the box in the US.
2. The default language on the H962 is in english. The default language on the H961N is some asian language(probably Korean) and so when you boot the H961n up the first time the setup screen wont be in english.
3. The H962 is not tied to any phone carrier. And so it has absolutely zero carrier bloatware apps and it also has absolutely no carrier tramp stamp on it. The H961N is tied to a Korean carrier (LG's Uplus carrier) and so you will see the Uplus stamp on the back of the phone, you will also see it on the boot up screen, and you will see plenty of korean language Uplus bloatware apps that will take an hour to uninstall. The H962 is the pure clean carrier free version and only shows the LG logo on bootup and has the LG logo stamp on the back.
4. The H962 has an fm radio and comes with an fm Radio app installed on it. The H961N also has an fm radio with the radio app.
5. Both the H962 and H961n provide the same band support in the United States. Neither will support 4G in the US.
6. Both H962 and H961N have 64GB internal storage.
So with this, you can see that the H962 is the better variant to have over the H961n. NewEgg.com sells the H962 (they have it incorrectly listed as H961n, but it is actually H962). You can probably find the H962 at other online retailers as well.
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Some of the information you have mention are incorrect, the H961N is sold within asian, and hong kong, all hong kong version are unlocked and are not linked to any carrier, and has no bloatware, and it's available in both 32GB and 64GB.
The default language for the N961N is chinese, and I think the H962 is for the taiwan market.
kms108 said:
Some of the information you have mention are incorrect, the H961N is sold within asian, and hong kong, all hong kong version are unlocked and are not linked to any carrier, and has no bloatware, and it's available in both 32GB and 64GB.
The default language for the N961N is chinese, and I think the H962 is for the taiwan market.
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I don't understand why they release two separate unlocked versions for Taiwan and Hong Kong.
tempurastyle said:
I don't understand why they release two separate unlocked versions for Taiwan and Hong Kong.
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There are minor differences in the frequency band, but I agree, they can just add the extra bands in one version instead of have two phone version, or to save all the trouble have one single sim and dual sim phone with all the bands available is much better, but I think it's to keep a record of all the phones distributed within each countries.
so it cant be used in the states for 4g networks?
pato2015 said:
so it cant be used in the states for 4g networks?
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Certainly not as shipped. Turns out though that the radio chips used appear to be more capable than LG promised. If you root there is then a well known procedure for unlocking extra bands on both the H961N and H962. This is not guaranteed to work, but there aren't many reports of it not working and lots of it working. Once done generally you do get LTE coverage for at least some of the US carriers.
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile)
the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
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Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. With the information Chazz posted, you should be able to identify which bands you need for the carrier you are going to use it on. If you are unsure, then post with carrier you are planing on using it on and one of us will specifically tell you which bands are needed and which model would be suit your needs on the available information. Some models so access more than what they are mentioned to support and others have very inaccurate information, like the H933 for the Canadian market.
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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ah, good idea.
jcsww said:
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
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Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case almost all the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
LG V30 V300K
Carrier: KT – South Korea
GSM: 850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS (HSPA: 2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE: 2100 (B1), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8)
TD-LTE: 2600 (B38), 2300 (B40)
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See, with that one, you would have only LTE band 7 for Argentina or Chile carriers. And if you are using WOM, which only has LTE band 4, then you would be out of luck. Unless that model has more bands than listed in official specs, which is possible.
ChazzMatt said:
ah, good idea.
Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
See, with that one, you would not have any Argentina or Chile LTE bands.
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Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
jcsww said:
Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
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Yeah. And after I posted I realized he would still have LTE band 7 -- but would only be out of luck if he used the carrier that only has LTE band 7. So, I edited my post slightly.
I am curious which LG V30 model is being sold. Because as far as I can tell, the phone has not yet launched in South America -- so any LG V30 models are being imported from another country by re-sellers. On the Chile LG website, the LG G6 is still the top phone and the V30 is not mentioned at all.
ChazzMatt said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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I believe that phones sold in Chile are ready for Chilean networks... I hope the seller is wrong.
I'm buying it from a small business that sells computers and phones. I suppose it is legal, because it has a shop in downtown and pays all taxes. The thing is that LG never brings the latest phones officially into my country (Argentina). I'm telling you that the latest and newest LG phone sold here by official LG stores is the G5 SE.
I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
Trompipan said:
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
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I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
jcsww said:
I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
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Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
Trompipan said:
Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
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I am not 100% sure as I do not own a V30 as of yet. In some Nexus devices, you can actually set a region, which have also been known to cause issues. I remember the Nexus 5 forum being full of people who selected USA when overseas and ended up losing their service. Changing the choice did not make a difference after that first selection. If I happen to pick up a V30 before yours arrives, I will definitely check and see. Otherwise, hopefully someone else will chime in and know.
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
ranahan said:
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
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What model V30+ do you have? "V30+" is not the answer. I have a US998 V30+ with band 4. Almost every V30+ has LTE band 4...
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
You have one of the Korean carrier variants? Ding ding ding.
You didn't research before you bought. Every LG V30+ models except for the Korean carrier variants has LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4. [/QUOTE]
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
ranahan said:
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
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Hmmmm... I thought all that H930DS had LTE band 4. I thought it was the Korean carrier variants didn't have band 4...
See here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AdW7Z/lg-h930ds-v30-dual-sim-td-lte-lg-joan
ChazzMatt said:
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
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How Can i convert it, Chazz?
Hi, someone have an SM-G9650 from Amazon working in Latin America? im in Panama and i want to know if the LTE icon will show up on the network area.
By my mistake i ordered a SM-G965F and doesnt worked correctly, so i returned it.
Thanks!
lemc0117 said:
Hi, someone have an SM-G9650 from Amazon working in Latin America? im in Panama and i want to know if the LTE icon will show up on the network area.
By my mistake i ordered a SM-G965F and doesnt worked correctly, so i returned it.
Thanks!
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What's the country of manufacturer, Latin American or Hong Kong? If it's Latin America, maybe. If it's Hong Kong, no.
Yes, the SM-G9650/DS is the model that Samsung is selling in Latin American countries, it has the SD845 and Dual-Sim with SD Card slot.
I also have this device in Ecuador and LTE works.