Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile)
the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
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Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. With the information Chazz posted, you should be able to identify which bands you need for the carrier you are going to use it on. If you are unsure, then post with carrier you are planing on using it on and one of us will specifically tell you which bands are needed and which model would be suit your needs on the available information. Some models so access more than what they are mentioned to support and others have very inaccurate information, like the H933 for the Canadian market.
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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ah, good idea.
jcsww said:
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
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Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case almost all the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
LG V30 V300K
Carrier: KT – South Korea
GSM: 850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS (HSPA: 2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE: 2100 (B1), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8)
TD-LTE: 2600 (B38), 2300 (B40)
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See, with that one, you would have only LTE band 7 for Argentina or Chile carriers. And if you are using WOM, which only has LTE band 4, then you would be out of luck. Unless that model has more bands than listed in official specs, which is possible.
ChazzMatt said:
ah, good idea.
Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
See, with that one, you would not have any Argentina or Chile LTE bands.
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Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
jcsww said:
Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
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Yeah. And after I posted I realized he would still have LTE band 7 -- but would only be out of luck if he used the carrier that only has LTE band 7. So, I edited my post slightly.
I am curious which LG V30 model is being sold. Because as far as I can tell, the phone has not yet launched in South America -- so any LG V30 models are being imported from another country by re-sellers. On the Chile LG website, the LG G6 is still the top phone and the V30 is not mentioned at all.
ChazzMatt said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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I believe that phones sold in Chile are ready for Chilean networks... I hope the seller is wrong.
I'm buying it from a small business that sells computers and phones. I suppose it is legal, because it has a shop in downtown and pays all taxes. The thing is that LG never brings the latest phones officially into my country (Argentina). I'm telling you that the latest and newest LG phone sold here by official LG stores is the G5 SE.
I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
Trompipan said:
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
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I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
jcsww said:
I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
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Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
Trompipan said:
Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
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I am not 100% sure as I do not own a V30 as of yet. In some Nexus devices, you can actually set a region, which have also been known to cause issues. I remember the Nexus 5 forum being full of people who selected USA when overseas and ended up losing their service. Changing the choice did not make a difference after that first selection. If I happen to pick up a V30 before yours arrives, I will definitely check and see. Otherwise, hopefully someone else will chime in and know.
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
ranahan said:
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
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What model V30+ do you have? "V30+" is not the answer. I have a US998 V30+ with band 4. Almost every V30+ has LTE band 4...
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
You have one of the Korean carrier variants? Ding ding ding.
You didn't research before you bought. Every LG V30+ models except for the Korean carrier variants has LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4. [/QUOTE]
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
ranahan said:
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
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Hmmmm... I thought all that H930DS had LTE band 4. I thought it was the Korean carrier variants didn't have band 4...
See here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AdW7Z/lg-h930ds-v30-dual-sim-td-lte-lg-joan
ChazzMatt said:
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
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How Can i convert it, Chazz?
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I'm interested in the straight up, non-carrier version of the North American model of the LG G5. Not the carrier version, that will surely come pre-loaded with useless carrier apps. I made that mistake with the Galaxy S6 last year, and yeah I got my free year of Netflix, at the cost of my sanity dealing with invasive pre-loaded apps.
This year I want to buy a LG G5 in it's simplified glory, unlocked.
Does anyone know specifically where I can buy what I'm looking for? I don't want to buy a random G5 on eBay, and then have it turn out to be like a T mobile version or something.
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
Canadian Model H831
LG website shows Canadian model: LGH831
Att us - h820
this is one thing I hate about LG, there is so many different models. Why cant they just slim the models?
billybob275 said:
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
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Do you know what the RS988 price is or if B&H accepts PayPal?
Chocolina said:
Do you know what the RS988 price is or if B&H accepts PayPal?
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Sorry, I'm not sure yet. They will probably post it on their site in the next week or so.
billybob275 said:
B&H is advertising an unlocked North America LG G5 (model: RS988) on their site: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
One caveat, they state that the phone's hardware supports North American carriers' GSM and CDMA networks, but they also state that its up to the carrier to allow activation of the device on their networks. Just because it supports Verizon's LTE bands and CDMA, doesn't mean they will let you use it.
Also, it's too early to tell whether or not the bootloader will be unlockable, which is a requirement to get root on Android 6.0/Marshmallow.
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i hope i can use on a verizon mvno and i also hope that the boot loader will be unlockable.
anyone know if i will be able to take advantage of the pre order deal if you ordered from them?
Verizon G5 = VS987
PROcede said:
Verizon G5 = VS987
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Some models are: F700K/L/S, H820, H830, H831, H850, H860, H868, LS992, US992, RS988 and VS987
Full list of models and bands each phone supports can be found in my "General Thread" here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/info-autos-g5-thread-t3350648
T-Mobile USA is identified as LG-H830.
Does anyone who has a dual SIM version H860 or H860N or any other knows if when using only 1 SIM you have the no SIM icon on top (because of the second SIM empty slot)?
Thanks
gsanches said:
Does anyone who has a dual SIM version H860 or H860N or any other knows if when using only 1 SIM you have the no SIM icon on top (because of the second SIM empty slot)?
Thanks
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I have the H860N. I only use the SIM1 slot and there's no such empty SIM icon at the top.
Sent from my LG-H860 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Not sure if RS988 is equal to US992.
I just want to double confirm before my order from B&H ships.... the unlocked V30 fully supports all Verizon bands and I'll have no issues activating, correct?
I live in an area that still heavily swtiches between CDMA bands and LTE bands which is also one of the only reasons I stay with Verizon. I thought I was good to go, but noticed on the Best Buy unlocked V30 sales page they specifically call out support for GSM, but make no mention of Verzion support.
If the unlocked V30 doesn't have all the bands, then I'll need to buy a bloated locked down version from Verizon instead.
thanks for any insight.
yes, it has all the CDMA and Verizon bands.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
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ChazzMatt said:
yes, it has all the CDMA and Verizon bands.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
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I think you're stalking me, lol.
thank you... I read through this entire thread too and it didn't help much.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/lg-lacking-frequency-bands-compared-to-t3704491
That puts my mind at more ease about the order.
teknomedic said:
I think you're stalking me, lol.
thank you... I read through this entire thread too and it didn't help much.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/lg-lacking-frequency-bands-compared-to-t3704491
That puts my mind at more ease about the order.
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Yeah and the B&H Photo website isn't too helpful either - if you're looking at their carrier specific compatibility columns.
I mean, they're a retailer, not tech support. But their LG V30 page says it supports T-Mobile bands 2 and 4 -- even though in another section it clearly lists EVERY T-Mobile HSPA and LTE band except for LTE band 71 (which possibly be enabled via the hidden menu with root). But someone was complaining this unlocked LG V30 only had LTE T-Mobile bands 2 & 4, when the article they were commenting on (RIGHT ABOVE THEIR COMMENTS) clearly listed ALL the bands I show in that screenshot in the post above.
Somehow they were obsessing over the incomplete "T-Mobile" listing on the B&H Photo website (a link to B&H Photo was in the article), and they had missed not only the bands listed in the article, but even the complete listing of bands on B&H Photo website.
Another guy said "it doesn't even have all the AT&T LTE bands."
YES, it does! They're missing the forest trying to look at the trees.
RE: LG V30 - US998 Model - US Cellular on box
ChazzMatt said:
yes, it has all the CDMA and Verizon bands.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
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Just wanted to confirm that an LG V30 model US998 (which has US Cellular listed on the box near the IMEI number) will work on Verizon? US Cellular model is same as unlocked version of the V30?
koozer said:
Just wanted to confirm that an LG V30 model US998 (which has US Cellular listed on the box near the IMEI number) will work on Verizon? US Cellular model is same as unlocked version of the V30?
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Yes, exact same band specs -- including being carrier unlocked -- except U.S.Cellular model won't be eligible for LG official bootloader unlock.
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teknomedic said:
I just want to double confirm before my order from B&H ships.... the unlocked V30 fully supports all Verizon bands and I'll have no issues activating, correct?
I live in an area that still heavily swtiches between CDMA bands and LTE bands which is also one of the only reasons I stay with Verizon. I thought I was good to go, but noticed on the Best Buy unlocked V30 sales page they specifically call out support for GSM, but make no mention of Verzion support.
If the unlocked V30 doesn't have all the bands, then I'll need to buy a bloated locked down version from Verizon instead.
thanks for any insight.
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The one thing Verizon gets prickly about is "activating" a non-Verizon branded phone (i.e. giving you a new SIM card). Simple workaround is using an already activated SIM card from current Verizon phone. Everyone does that. THEN, inform Verizon of your new purchase. So, they can update your provisioning.
If it's not the same size SIM card, there's cheap SIM card cutters on eBay that work well. (But every phone for the past three years now use the small nano SIM cards.)
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, exact same band specs -- including being carrier unlocked -- except U.S.Cellular model won't be eligible for LG official bootloader unlock.
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The one thing Verizon gets prickly about is "activating" a non-Verizon branded phone (i.e. giving you a new SIM card). Simple workaround is using an already activated SIM card from current Verizon phone. Everyone does that. THEN, inform Verizon of your new purchase. So, they can update your provisioning.
If it's not the same size SIM card, there's cheap SIM card cutters on eBay that work well. (But every phone for the past three years now use the small nano SIM cards.)
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Running a Verizon Droid Turbo and iirc it uses a nano size sim.
Is there any benefit to buying a new sim... like with provisioning or security or faster speeds?
teknomedic said:
Running a Verizon Droid Turbo and iirc it uses a nano size sim.
Is there any benefit to buying a new sim... like with provisioning or security or faster speeds?
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OK, I also have a Quark, the Moto XT1225, the "international" version of the Droid Turbo.
A new SIM card won't necessarily give you any benefits, but Verizon knowing what phone you have for provisioning will.
You'll get all the bands, all the speed you're supposed you get. For instance, this phone has a gigabit modem. If Verizon still thinks you have a 2014 Motorola phone, instead of 2017 LG cutting edge phone you may limited.
I know I had to tell AT&T I had a "Nexus 6". I didn't, but it was the closest thing they had in their device database to the Moto Maxx XT1225, and it ensured I got their then-new LTE band 5, which my previous LG Nexus 5 couldn't receive.
I'll do the same with AT&T next week. I'll again have a non AT&T branded phone, and using it on AT&T. But this time they have a V30 in their database.
People who buy from carriers don't have to worry about this, it gets done by the rep when they buy the phone. But when you buy a carrier unlocked version, non carrier branded version, yes.
If I end up with the US Cellular one how would I bring it over to Verizon assuming I have no existing active sim with them?
Nevermind, found your post.
How do I tell the difference between the US Cellular US998 and open market one when buying?
Found that too.
sneak310 said:
If I end up with the US Cellular one how would I bring it over to Verizon assuming I have no existing active sim with them?
Nevermind, found your post.
How do I tell the difference between the US Cellular US998 and open market one when buying?
Found that too.
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One of those was written last January 2018 and is outdated. Now you can easily convert Sprint LS998 to almost any other North America V30 variant, including Verizon VS996 or US998
I've bought two LS998 V30+ and converted them to US998 V30+.
It's best to have an existing Verizon SIM for converted phones, if you see using Verizon.
The WTF INSTRUCTIONS are current.
There's NO difference in US CELLULAR and Open Market US998 -- except eligibility for official LG bootloader unlock, which we do not need. We can unlock our bootloader at will, don't need LG permission.
ChazzMatt said:
One of those was written last January and is outdated. Now you can easily convert LS998 to almost any other North America V30 variant.
I've bought two LS998 V30+ and converted them to US998 V30+.
It's best to have an existing Verizon SIM for converted phones, if you see using Verizon.
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Thanks but they cost more. I was considering this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-GSM-Unlocked-Smartphone-Silver-Mint
Well, there's an LS998 on eBay for $360 which is not bad considering the price of a US998 V30+ but I'm not sure it will be around when I can afford it. Would there be ANY differences at all (besides storage space) by converting an LS998?
Actually considering the space addition I could skip for now or entirely avoid buying an SD by converting the LS998 so for the price difference of $40 that's not bad, considering it would cost $60 for a 256GB Samsung EVO SD. I presume whatever storage is included in the phone is adequate for all forms of video capture since it's a video capture focused phone, but I'm not that concerned about pictures and videos anyway. I just like the phone for it's overall value and power.
I'm currently on ATT with a Nexus 5 and have nobody with a Verizon SIM.
sneak310 said:
Thanks but they cost more. I was considering this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-GSM-Unlocked-Smartphone-Silver-Mint
I'm currently on ATT with a Nexus 5 and have nobody with a Verizon SIM.
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I'm on AT&T. You want to switch to Verizon?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
I'm on AT&T. You want to switch to Verizon?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Considering it because 13 years ago I had Verizon and they had nice customer support and service. ATT service seems fine but when there are occasional issues and I do need to contact them to have them resolve it because there's nothing I can do on my end, they could be better. I know historically that Verizon has better coverage than ATT too so I don't see a big deal in at least giving them a shot considering I can go back to ATT whenever I want (using prepaid at ATT and will be using prepaid at Verizon). I dislike Sprint and T-Mobile.
Would there be ANY differences at all (besides storage space) by converting an LS998?
sneak310 said:
Thanks but they cost more. I was considering this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-GSM-Unlocked-Smartphone-Silver-Mint
Well, there's an LS998 on eBay for $360 which is not bad considering the price of a US998 V30+ but I'm not sure it will be around when I can afford it. Would there be ANY differences at all (besides storage space) by converting an LS998?
Actually considering the space addition I could skip for now or entirely avoid buying an SD by converting the LS998 so for the price difference of $40 that's not bad, considering it would cost $60 for a 256GB Samsung EVO SD. I presume whatever storage is included in the phone is adequate for all forms of video capture since it's a video capture focused phone, but I'm not that concerned about pictures and videos anyway. I just like the phone for it's overall value and power.
I'm currently on ATT with a Nexus 5 and have nobody with a Verizon SIM.
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Most US998 on eBay are converted LS998. Dealers are selling mint LS998/US998 V30+ for less than $300. They often convert them to US998, as those are carrier unlock and more popular.
"New" US998 are often factory refurbished, but after in pristine condition.
I just bought "new" US998 V30+ from online Walmart ($380) -- and it's a former LS998 V30+, now on US998 Nougat. I'm confused, but at least it comes with two year warranty.
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Would there be ANY differences at all (besides storage space) by converting an LS998?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS998-128GB-Titan-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-A-Mint-/192609345150
Converting to US998 gives you full US998. I've used these on ATT and others have used on Verizon.
ChazzMatt said:
Most US998 on eBay are converted LS998. Dealers are selling mint LS998/US998 V30+ for less than $300. They often convert them to US998, as those are carrier unlock and more popular.
"New" US998 are often factory refurbished, but after in pristine condition.
I just bought "new" US998 V30+ from online Walmart ($380) -- and it's a former LS998 V30+, now on US998 Nougat. I'm confused, but at least it comes with two year warranty.
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It's not allowed on eBay to sell a refurb as new. If they scam like that, the seller and eBay will both be harassed endlessly until they make up for their scam by, at the very least, providing a full refund and paying for the return shipping.
When you say you bought a US998 "and it's a former LS998 V30+" do you mean that you bought it as an LS998 V30+ and converted it yourself or that it was sold to you as a US998 V30+ which you know was converted before being sold? If the latter, how do you know?
Also, regarding LS998 V30+ and US998 V30, there are none new for under $300. Only used listings exist and don't even come with the official charger. Items listed as new aren't allowed to come with the charger that isn't normally provided, but some sellers are wrongly listing those as "new" instead of "new (other)" as they should be. Even if they came with the charger, the fact that they're used means I'd much rather spend $20-60 more for a US998 V30 or LS998 V30+ if it's going to be new. I expect used products of this price to have more of a discount than $20-60 (which again, is actually less than that since the charger is often not included).
I've only really been checking Amazon and eBay.
Amazon V30+ LS998
Amazon V30 US998
eBay V30+ LS998
eBay V30 US998
ChazzMatt said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS998-128GB-Titan-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-A-Mint-/192609345150
Converting to US998 gives you full US998. I've used these on ATT and others have used on Verizon.
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Thanks, I wanted to be sure there aren't any drawbacks.
sneak310 said:
When you say you bought a US998 "and it's a former LS998 V30+" do you mean that you bought it as an LS998 V30+ and converted it yourself or that it was sold to you as a US998 V30+ which you know was converted before being sold? If the latter, how do you know?
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Because the box from Walmart says LS998 on the side, the phone has the same IMEI as on the box, but the firmware on the phone is Nougat US998.
No, I didn't come convert it.
Walmart is selling these as new, carrier unlocked V30+.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-128GB-Unlocked-GSM-4G-LTE-Android-Phone-Aurora-Black/272122892
ChazzMatt said:
Because the box from Walmart says LS998 on the side, the phone has the same IMEI as in the box, but the firmware on the phone is Nougat US998.
No, I didn't come convert it.
Walmart is selling these as new, carrier unlocked V30+.
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Yeah, only seeing it for $399 at Walmart.
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Yeah, only seeing it for $399 at Walmart.
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It was $380 a couple of weeks ago. They've raised the price back.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
It was $380 a couple of weeks ago. They've raised the price back.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Is the reason there are missing bands on the LS998 version because they're hidden by the ROM or does the radio actually lack some bands compared to the US998?
sneak310 said:
Is the reason there are missing bands on the LS998 version because they're hidden by the ROM or does the radio actually lack some bands compared to the US998?
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The hardware is identical, the firmware is different.
When you convert (Frankenstein) the North America phones to another North America phone, it totally becomes the phone, with all the bands. You gain/lose bands based on the variant you are flashing. For instance, flashing AT&T H931 to US998, you lose a couple minor AT&T bands but gain CDMA bands and unlocked carrier status, as well as fastboot flash commands.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
If you have"H930" (either actual or converted), you will either have these bands:
2G GSM: 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G (HSPA): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/8/12/17/20/28/38
Flashing LS998 to US998, you lose a couple of Sprint bands but gain others, as well as carrier unlock status, and fastboot flash commands.
Similarly, flashing LS998 to VS996, it becomes VS996 with all VS996 bands. But if you want root, you first have to convert to US998 at least temporarily, to get fastboot flash commands. Then after bootloader unlock and TWRP installation, you can convert to VS996.
But the caveat is Verizon may not accept a former Sprint phone converted to US998 or VS996 for new SIM card activation, as the IMEI database will show the the original status. Whereas, 0tthers have gotten Verizon MNVOs to activate former LS998 just fine. But with Verizon mothership you probably need an already activated SIM card.
Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
NerdPad said:
Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
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Hello, did you try the hidden menu (whatever is the code) to check bands ?
Hi, any update on this topic? I have the same phone (H930DS) and will move to the US in the next months.
If not T-Mobile, will I be able to use LTE from any of the other big providers?
The code to access the hidden menus for the 930DS is: *#546368#*930# Isn't there an EU version of the 930DS as well?
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
NerdPad said:
So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
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You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
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It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
Septfox said:
You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
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I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
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Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
sundoggy said:
Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
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If the bands are there and enabled, then yes. The only thing that limits which bands can be used is the software and firmware in the device. The issues with T-Mobile might be related to WCDMA/UMTS being locked out in that model. VoLTE though should be possible on bands 2, 4, and 12 though and T-Mobile's WiFi Calling should also work. Canada is similar but also depends on the carrier. Freedom would have the WCDMA/UMTS issues that T-Mobile users are probably having issues with. Rogers/Fido/Chatr however would more than likely be the best fit. Bell/Virgin and Telus/Koodo should be fine as well, but the Rogers network still has GSM service.
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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You get 3G, but no 4G/LTE?
Are you in an urban or rural area?
Did you access the hidden menu and clicked on one of T-Mobile's bands (B4 or B12) for testing purposes?
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
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What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
sundoggy said:
by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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It works well. I haven't really had any time to compare it to the H933 because it is back in the box ready to be exchanged. In and around Scarborough-Guildwood, signal strength is in and around 91db.
From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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Understandable. I haven't been able to find any locally in Canada or in western Virginia. Then again, western Virginia is fairly rural and I don't want to purchase one online. The screens are too much of an issue on these devices to risk buying one from Ebay, Swappa, Kijiji, and other online sites.
I know Amazon.com has them but I am up in Canada right now and don't want to pay import fees and taxes to bring it to Canada. Amazon may also have a great return policy but I would hate to have to send it back because of screen banding and color uniformity issues. In Toronto, band 2 and 4 are very common and would be easily enough to test with my T-Mobile USA SIM while roaming. Any of the stores I have been in at Pacific Mall don't carry them.
Hey first thankyou for you amazing website !
So im looking for lg v30 or 30+ second hand.
How I can be sure that it will work back in Brazil
I get a hardtime to figure out you guys look like u know what u doing thans for the help appreciate!
Baltou said:
Hey first thankyou for you amazing website !
So im looking for lg v30 or 30+ second hand.
How I can be sure that it will work back in Brazil
I get a hardtime to figure out you guys look like u know what u doing thans for the help appreciate!
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I've been to Brazil six times since 2007.
Yes, LG V30 will work in Brazil, especially if you
1) get one of the North America variants listed below OR
2) even better buy H930DS.... (If you only need in Brazil)
You mostly need LTE bands 3 & 7 for Claro, Vivo, Oi, TIM, Nextel, etc.. But as of 2016, some Brazilian carriers have also started using newer LTE band 28.
If you buy any North America variant (except for T-MOBILE H932, stay away from that), you can convert to carrier unlocked US998 via Frankenstein method and have bands 3 & 7. Or to keep it simple, buy US998 (which is carrier unlocked and has fastboot flash commands, if you ever need them).
LS998, H931, H933, VS996, AS998, US998 are ones you want to look for.
You will be converting to US998, if not already US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
OR even better buy H930DS (DUAL SIM V30+), if you can find it -- if it's for Brazil and not for U.S. use. It has LTE bands 3, 7 and 28 -- and you can use dual SIM cards, which is popular in Brazil. Plus, it has fastboot flash commands, if you ever need them. IF you buy that, make sure it has "DS" in the name. Because there's also plain H930, H930G, etc.
H930DS:
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz +TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G LTE: 1/3/5/7/8/20/28 + TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE1900 (B39), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
However, H939DS -- while perfect for Brazil -- is missing major LTE bands for U.S. Does NOT have LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12.
Lg v30+ us998 no working Brazil ?
Hey i come to you again i got the LG v30+ us998 someone flash it for me from Sprint . so im arrived in Brazil I got a vivo 4g chip but its sadly not working any idea to fix that ?
Baltou said:
Hey i come to you again i got the LG v30+ us998 someone flash it for me from Sprint . so im arrived in Brazil I got a vivo 4g chip but its sadly not working any idea to fix that ?
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Does this 4G SIM card also allow HSPA?
You're not getting anything, or just not getting LTE?
What LTE band(s) are they using in your area?
They don't make you buy their own phone, do they? Is it Vivo Prepaid or contract?
You tried contacting customer service? Maybe they have to activate something on their end.
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no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
Baltou said:
no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
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customer service well the sim working and the other phone I got here
Baltou said:
no idea if allow HSPA
The phone read the chip( writing vivo on screen) but no service, no lte
Apparently the band is 50. In bahia after a quick search
I got a prepaid and a contract one both not working.. thank you
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Hmmm... I not seeing any mention of LTE band 50. Just 3, 7, 28 -- and you're not going to get 28 with US998.
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Okay só i have to go for 3 or 7 I was surfing in the hidden menu clicking on lte band selection is saying sucess but nothing happened
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Okay só i have to go for 3 or 7 I was surfing in the hidden menu clicking on lte band selection is saying sucess but nothing happened
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Be careful of the hidden menu on US998 for LTE bands. Choosing one will LOCK you onto that band and it can't change. I had to factory reset mine one time after doing that. There's also another fix, which I can't remember right now.
Okay so any idea. What can I do.
I bought it off ebay last year and I do remember looking up the serial and finding out it was originally from sprint.
I use it on Cricket which uses the majority of AT&T's bands, however I feel that signal is always low almost everywhere I go and I am wondering if the signal is simply worst due to missing certain bands.
Cricket LTE uses B2/B4/B17(B12)/B30
Does the flashed version have all of those bands?
Thanks!
Crimson Flam3s said:
I bought it off ebay last year and I do remember looking up the serial and finding out it was originally from sprint.
I use it on Cricket which uses the majority of AT&T's bands, however I feel that signal is always low almost everywhere I go and I am wondering if the signal is simply worst due to missing certain bands.
Cricket LTE uses B2/B4/B17(B12)/B30
Does the flashed version have all of those bands?
Thanks!
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Answer is in the Frankenstein instructions.
Here you go:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/(17)/20/25/66
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ChazzMatt said:
Answer is in the Frankenstein instructions.
Here you go:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/(17)/20/25/66
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That helps, thanks!
I see I am only missing band30.
Wonder how much of a difference that would make around Atlanta, which is a shame because otherwise this is an excellent phone!
Crimson Flam3s said:
That helps, thanks!
I see I am only missing band30.
Wonder how much of a difference that would make around Atlanta, which is a shame because otherwise this is an excellent phone!
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I'm in Atlanta, I use AT&T Prepaid and I don't lose anything by not having band 30.
Besides, Cricket speed is capped by owner AT&T at 8mbps, and even 3mbps for some plans. From Cricket website:
Cricket caps download speeds on all its rate plans at 8Mbps (LTE)/4Mbps (4G) except for the Unlimited Plan which is capped at 3 Mbps (LTE/4G) and the Unlimited Extra Plan and data only plans.
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Screenshot below isn't even the fastest speed I've gotten, it's just the one I could easily find right now.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm in Atlanta, I use AT&T Prepaid and I don't lose anything by not having band 30.
Besides, Cricket speed is capped by owner AT&T at 8mbps, and even 3mbps for some plans:
From Cricket website:
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My main problem has been more about how many bars I am getting rather than the actual speed, which is just fine for my uses.
Since I am a Field Technician and travel outside Atlanta often, I get to experience this a bit more often, so it would depend if band 30 covers areas outside Atlanta better.
Just gonna have to suck it up for now lol
Real US998 supports all those bands... I'm not sure about LS998 converted to US998 since LS998 originally doesn't support band 30...
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Real US998 supports all those bands... I'm not sure about LS998 converted to US998 since LS998 originally doesn't support band 30...
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Uh, no it doesn't. I quoted the US998 bands from the LG website. See attached screenshot. Band 30 is not listed while all those other bands are.
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/(17)/20/25/66
(There's a reason LTE band 17 is in parenthesis, but I've explained it before and don't feel like going into it right now. Short answer, it's there as part of LTE band 12.)
Now the Canada H933 has LTE band 30 and also AT&T H931. The US998 is the official North American carrier unlocked variant, but it doesn't support ALL the minor bands of ALL the carriers.
* It's missing LTE band 71 (while the T-mobile H932 has that),
* it's missing a couple of Sprint bands (which LS998 has, of course), and
* it's missing both LTE band 29 and 30, which AT&T use (and which the H931 have).
Just because it's in the Hidden Menu doesn't mean it's supported. LTE band 71 is also in the US998 hidden menu, but you can't actually receive it.
I have an "original" US998, I run LTE Discovery app often, I live in Atlanta, and there's no LTE band 30 in any of my logs -- because US998 doesn't support it.
jptV30 said:
I'm not sure about LS998 converted to US998 since LS998 originally doesn't support band 30...
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Cross flashed to Frankenstein it becomes a full US998 with US998 modems. That is the difference in the North American V30 variants. They all have the same hardware, but the modems/firmware regulate the frequencies received. When an H931 is flashed to LS998 -- suddenly it has CDMA and all the Sprint LTE bands, etc. When US998 is rooted and flashed to H931 firmware it would have LTE bands 29 and 30, but not have those on US998.
Crimson Flam3s said:
I bought it off ebay last year and I do remember looking up the serial and finding out it was originally from sprint.
I use it on Cricket which uses the majority of AT&T's bands, however I feel that signal is always low almost everywhere I go and I am wondering if the signal is simply worst due to missing certain bands.
Cricket LTE uses B2/B4/B17(B12)/B30
Does the flashed version have all of those bands?
Thanks!
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If you feel you need Band 30, there's two ways of getting it:
1) Frankenstein to Canada H933 firmware. It has LTE band 30.
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2) root your current US998 and flash the TWRP-flashable zip for AT&T H931. It has LTE band 30.
ChazzMatt said:
Uh, no it doesn't. I quoted the US998 bands from the LG website. See attached screenshot. Band 30 is not listed while all those other bands are.
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/(17)/20/25/66
(There's a reason LTE band 17 is in parenthesis, but I've explained it before and don't feel like going into it right now. Short answer, it's there as part of LTE band 12.)
Now the Canada H933 has LTE band 30 and also AT&T H931. The US998 is the official North American carrier unlocked variant, but it doesn't support ALL the minor bands of ALL the carriers.
* It's missing LTE band 71 (while the T-mobile H932 has that),
* it's missing a couple of Sprint bands (which LS998 has, of course), and
* it's missing both LTE band 29 and 30, which AT&T use (and which the H931 have).
Just because it's in the Hidden Menu doesn't mean it's supported. LTE band 71 is also in the US998 hidden menu, but you can't actually receive it.
I have an "original" US998, I run LTE Discovery app often, I live in Atlanta, and there's no LTE band 30 in any of my logs -- because US998 doesn't support it.
Cross flashed to Frankenstein it becomes a full US998 with US998 modems. That is the difference in the North American V30 variants. They all have the same hardware, but the modems/firmware regulate the frequencies received. When an H931 is flashed to LS998 -- suddenly it has CDMA and all the Sprint LTE bands, etc. When US998 is rooted and flashed to H931 firmware it would have LTE bands 29 and 30, but not have those on US998.
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More than half the things have nothing to do with my statement. This is the second time someone has said... US998 doesn't have band 71... H932 has it... when I didn't even say anything about band 71 or H932... that's amazing...
How did you even come to the ridiculous conclusion that all north american variants have the same hardware?
jptV30 said:
More than half the things have nothing to do with my statement. This is the second time someone has said... US998 doesn't have band 71... H932 has it... when I didn't even say anything about band 71 or H932... that's amazing...
How did you even come to the ridiculous conclusion that all north american variants have the same hardware?
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OK, I can see you're a troll and I'm reporting you. YOU said it.
jptV30 said:
H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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jptV30 said:
but like I've said... the four models I listed all have the exact same hardware...
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(Add AS998 and T-Mobile H932 to the list. Those are all the North American variants.)
YOU said it, but I don't need you to say it since it's been proven over and over the past two years.
It's how Frankenstein works (which I wrote the guide for) to add or remove various bands, depending on firmware flashed.
Example, as I posted above (for some reason you don't understand "supporting evidence") LS998 has all the Sprint LTE bands. Flashing to US998, then the phone loses some of the Sprint LTE bands. Flashing back to Sprint firmware, the device regains all Sprint LTE bands.
My post was showing the differences in firmware modems, while all North American hardware is the same. H933 and H931 has LTE band 30, while US998 does not.
US998 has the major North American variants bands, but NOT ALL bands. My post detailed relevant examples.
ChazzMatt said:
OK, I can see you're a troll and I'm reporting you. YOU said it.
(Add AS998 and T-Mobile H932 to the list. Those are all the North American variants.)
YOU said it, but I don't need you to say it since it's been proven over and over the past two years.
It's how Frankenstein works (which I wrote the guide for) to add or remove various bands, depending on firmware flashed.
Example, as I posted above (for some reason you don't understand "supporting evidence") LS998 has all the Sprint LTE bands. Flashing to US998, then the phone loses some of the Sprint LTE bands. Flashing back to Sprint firmware, the device regains all Sprint LTE bands.
My post was showing the differences in firmware modems, while all North American hardware is the same. H933 and H931 has LTE band 30, while US998 does not.
US998 has the major North American variants bands, but NOT ALL bands. My post detailed relevant examples.
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You are kidding right... how is saying 'H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...' same as saying ALL NORTH AMERICAN VARIANTS have the same hardware...
This is too funny...
jptV30 said:
You are kidding right... how is saying 'H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...' same as saying ALL NORTH AMERICAN VARIANTS have the same hardware...
This is too funny...
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Doesn't matter. They do have the same hardware. You listed 4 of the 6 (edit, 7) North American variants. You just forgot to list the other 2... (edit, 3) AS998 ("regional carrier" version of the US998) and T-Mobile H932, (and of course Sprint LS998). I'm including those two (edit, three). All North American V30 variants have the same hardware.
(We're not talking about options like internal memory or RAM -- because there's US998, US998U, US998R. But we just call them "US998". Same with H932 and H932U.)
It's not "ridiculous" as you described it. That fact has been been proven repeatedly by many people ever since Frankenstein was discovered to cross flash other V30 North American variant FIRMWARE and change bands to that variant, to transform one variant to another.
Anyway, you've been reported for your disparaging language. I'm tired of arguing with you in various threads.
I've told the OP how to get LTE band 30 on his phone, if he wants it. I've corrected your misinformation about US998 LTE bands, and provided proof.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Doesn't matter. They do have the same hardware. You listed 4 of the 6 North American variants. You just forgot to list the other 2... AS998 ("regional carrier" version of the US998) and T-Mobile H932. I'm including those two. All North American V30 variants have the same hardware.
(We're not talking about options like internal memory or RAM -- because there's US998, US998U, US998R. But we just call them "US998". Same with H932 and H932U.)
It's not "ridiculous" as you described it. That fact has been been proven repeatedly by many people ever since Frankenstein was discovered to cross flash other V30 North American variant FIRMWARE and change bands to that variant, to transform one variant to another.
Anyway, you've been reported for your disparaging language. I'm tired of arguing with you in various threads.
I've told the OP how to get LTE band 30 on his phone, if he wants it. I've corrected your misinformation about US998 LTE bands, and provided proof.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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They don't have the same hardware... I listed those four because I know those four have the same hardware... and not ALL NORTH AMERICAN VARIANTS have the same hardware... I didn't 'forget' the other variants... they just don't have the same hardware as the four I listed... and there are 7 north american variants not 6.... AS998 is not a version of the US998... AS998 has the same hardware as LS998...
So your ridiculous conclusion came from the fact that you can Frankenstein... that means they all have the same hardware... being able to put firmware on a device does not necessarily mean they have the same hardware...
Go ask anybody with H932 or LS998 running their respective firmware... and ask them for the FCC ID on their device... and then compare it to your US998 FCC ID...
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They don't have the same hardware... I listed those four because I know those four have the same hardware... and not ALL NORTH AMERICAN VARIANTS have the same hardware... I didn't 'forget' the other variants... they just don't have the same hardware as the four I listed... and there are 7 north american variants not 6.... AS998 is not a version of the US998... AS998 has the same hardware as LS998...
So your ridiculous conclusion came from the fact that you can Frankenstein... that means they all have the same hardware... being able to put firmware on a device does not necessarily mean they have the same hardware...
Go ask anybody with H932 or LS998 running their respective firmware... and ask them for the FCC ID on their device... and then compare it to your US998 FCC ID...
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Same hardware doesn't always mean same FCC ID. Same FCC ID means same hardware AND typically same bands -- like Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 and Moto Maxx XT1250 which were clones of each other and have same FCC ID. It was how I proved the Droid Turbo was not exclusive to Verizon, even here in the U.S. You could run Verizon SIM card in Moto Maxx XT1250 because it was "Droid Turbo" under another model name.
But there may be cases where there's same FCC ID, but yet different bands...
I reiterate same hardware does not automatically mean same FCC ID. There are many reasons an OEM would file for different FCC IDs when dealing with different major carriers. For instance, if a carrier wanted a change it could impact all carriers if they all shared the same FCC ID. Especially with the requirements for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), where electronic devices have to work in guaranteed manner for people with handicaps -- or companies can be fined or lose to class action lawsuits.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+