Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
NerdPad said:
Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
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Hello, did you try the hidden menu (whatever is the code) to check bands ?
Hi, any update on this topic? I have the same phone (H930DS) and will move to the US in the next months.
If not T-Mobile, will I be able to use LTE from any of the other big providers?
The code to access the hidden menus for the 930DS is: *#546368#*930# Isn't there an EU version of the 930DS as well?
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
NerdPad said:
So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
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You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
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It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
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You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
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I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
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Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
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Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
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If the bands are there and enabled, then yes. The only thing that limits which bands can be used is the software and firmware in the device. The issues with T-Mobile might be related to WCDMA/UMTS being locked out in that model. VoLTE though should be possible on bands 2, 4, and 12 though and T-Mobile's WiFi Calling should also work. Canada is similar but also depends on the carrier. Freedom would have the WCDMA/UMTS issues that T-Mobile users are probably having issues with. Rogers/Fido/Chatr however would more than likely be the best fit. Bell/Virgin and Telus/Koodo should be fine as well, but the Rogers network still has GSM service.
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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You get 3G, but no 4G/LTE?
Are you in an urban or rural area?
Did you access the hidden menu and clicked on one of T-Mobile's bands (B4 or B12) for testing purposes?
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
jcsww said:
What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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It works well. I haven't really had any time to compare it to the H933 because it is back in the box ready to be exchanged. In and around Scarborough-Guildwood, signal strength is in and around 91db.
From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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Understandable. I haven't been able to find any locally in Canada or in western Virginia. Then again, western Virginia is fairly rural and I don't want to purchase one online. The screens are too much of an issue on these devices to risk buying one from Ebay, Swappa, Kijiji, and other online sites.
I know Amazon.com has them but I am up in Canada right now and don't want to pay import fees and taxes to bring it to Canada. Amazon may also have a great return policy but I would hate to have to send it back because of screen banding and color uniformity issues. In Toronto, band 2 and 4 are very common and would be easily enough to test with my T-Mobile USA SIM while roaming. Any of the stores I have been in at Pacific Mall don't carry them.
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Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
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Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile)
the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G. I have no problems in living with a 3G connection since there are no unlimited internet plans in my country. My question is: Is it harmful for the phone not working in all of the bands? Will I face any problem in the future?
Thanks!!!
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Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. With the information Chazz posted, you should be able to identify which bands you need for the carrier you are going to use it on. If you are unsure, then post with carrier you are planing on using it on and one of us will specifically tell you which bands are needed and which model would be suit your needs on the available information. Some models so access more than what they are mentioned to support and others have very inaccurate information, like the H933 for the Canadian market.
Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
jcsww said:
Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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ah, good idea.
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Edit: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"]This is usually the list I use to reference carrier and band info[/URL] which I just noticed Chazz had posted under the image.
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Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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Ask them for the model number of the unit they are selling, just in case they are importing them from somewhere other than normal sources. .
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Trompipan said:
Hello everybody,
I'm about to buy an unlocked V30 (I live in Argentina and the seller brings them from Chile) and the seller said LTE bands are not the same as in my country, so that I won't be able to use 4G (LTE).
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case almost all the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
LG V30 V300K
Carrier: KT – South Korea
GSM: 850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS (HSPA: 2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE: 2100 (B1), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8)
TD-LTE: 2600 (B38), 2300 (B40)
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See, with that one, you would have only LTE band 7 for Argentina or Chile carriers. And if you are using WOM, which only has LTE band 4, then you would be out of luck. Unless that model has more bands than listed in official specs, which is possible.
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ah, good idea.
Yeah, that's my go-to list also and it's been pretty accurate for South American countries. I've visited Brazil six times in the past 10 years, so I'm familiar with the carriers and bands in that part of the world...
I just edited my post to put that link above the screenshot, instead of below. I meant to do that in the first place. I did include the link, as you noticed -- but I didn't mean to bury it at the bottom of the post. That screenshot is just Paint copy and paste from that Wikipedia page, of Argentina and Chile carriers and the LTE bands they use.
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The only way that story makes sense is if they are importing one of the South Korean LG V30 models and re-selling them in Argentina and Chile. In which case the LTE bands are not even the same for Argentina!
For instance:
See, with that one, you would not have any Argentina or Chile LTE bands.
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Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
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Mexico and some other places around the world have a massive black market for stolen cell phones where carriers don't blacklist IMEI's. Whether that might be the case or not, the model number should hopefully help a lot. I also know way too many people who think just because a carrier says it should work, doesn't make it 100% compatible and vice versa.
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Yeah. And after I posted I realized he would still have LTE band 7 -- but would only be out of luck if he used the carrier that only has LTE band 7. So, I edited my post slightly.
I am curious which LG V30 model is being sold. Because as far as I can tell, the phone has not yet launched in South America -- so any LG V30 models are being imported from another country by re-sellers. On the Chile LG website, the LG G6 is still the top phone and the V30 is not mentioned at all.
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He doesn't know what he's talking about -- IF the phone is FOR Chile and being used in Argentina. Here's the list of 4G LTE bands used in Argentina and Chile below. Show me any difference?
Which carrier in Chile is he buying from? OR is he BRINGING them from Chile, but the phone is for European market or something?
What carrier in Argentina do you use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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I believe that phones sold in Chile are ready for Chilean networks... I hope the seller is wrong.
I'm buying it from a small business that sells computers and phones. I suppose it is legal, because it has a shop in downtown and pays all taxes. The thing is that LG never brings the latest phones officially into my country (Argentina). I'm telling you that the latest and newest LG phone sold here by official LG stores is the G5 SE.
I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I can't even find a mention of the V30 on any of the carriers for Chile or Argentina. I checked Claro, Entel, and Movistar and the closest thing I could find was the G6. With carriers in Chile and Argentina all using one of the following: 4, 7, and or 28. The H933 from Canada and H932SV from T-Mobile, as well as possibly other variants would be fine in your region. I mentioned those two specifically because I know all of those bands mentioned are supported by those models. In most cases, the Canadian version comes unlocked.
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I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
Trompipan said:
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive. As soon as the seller tells me which model he's bringing, I'll post.
I also thought that it was strange that the 4G wouldn't be compatible.
Now I'm using an LG G5 H860 from Korea and it always worked like a charm.
We'll see this week.
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I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
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I am hoping the seller you are dealing with is just going on what is posted and not what actually has been verified through the engineering menu. T-Mobile's model does more bands than officially mentioned by T-Mobile. I am guessing the Canadian model does as well, although no one has verified that and I don't have one to verify it personally.
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Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
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Does this menu allow you to choose bands?
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I am not 100% sure as I do not own a V30 as of yet. In some Nexus devices, you can actually set a region, which have also been known to cause issues. I remember the Nexus 5 forum being full of people who selected USA when overseas and ended up losing their service. Changing the choice did not make a difference after that first selection. If I happen to pick up a V30 before yours arrives, I will definitely check and see. Otherwise, hopefully someone else will chime in and know.
Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
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Im a V30+ owner in Argentina, using Claro network, and unable to work with Lte/ 4g... that is, lack of Band 4 in the device.
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What model V30+ do you have? "V30+" is not the answer. I have a US998 V30+ with band 4. Almost every V30+ has LTE band 4...
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
You have one of the Korean carrier variants? Ding ding ding.
You didn't research before you bought. Every LG V30+ models except for the Korean carrier variants has LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
What model V30+ do you have? H930G? LS998? US998? H932? H930D? H930DS? I actually know you do NOT have any of those LG V30+ models or you would have LTE band 4.
The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4. [/QUOTE]
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
ranahan said:
Ok, i m going crazy...
I bought it by Amazon... nothing about Korea in the descriptionnn... well.
Its H930DS... and band 4 isnt working and is always a FAIL, when trying to select by Hidden Menu....
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Hmmmm... I thought all that H930DS had LTE band 4. I thought it was the Korean carrier variants didn't have band 4...
See here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AdW7Z/lg-h930ds-v30-dual-sim-td-lte-lg-joan
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The good news is you can convert your Korean carrier variant V30+ to a V30+ with LTE band 4.
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How Can i convert it, Chazz?
So I stumbled upon a link that had supposed band support list for the unlocked v30 and I didn't see 71 on there, I'm really leaning towards the v30 so that once T-Mobile rolls out 600mhz more I can potentially make use of it, I drive truck so more dependability is a major plus, but if the unlocked version doesn't support it then I'll prob get something else until I find a phone that I want that does support it on the unlocked version pops up so all in all does anyone have a clue as to whether or not the unlocked version supports 600mhz band 71
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So I stumbled upon a link that had supposed band support list for the unlocked v30 and I didn't see 71 on there, I'm really leaning towards the v30 so that once T-Mobile rolls out 600mhz more I can potentially make use of it, I drive truck so more dependability is a major plus, but if the unlocked version doesn't support it then I'll prob get something else until I find a phone that I want that does support it on the unlocked version pops up so all in all does anyone have a clue as to whether or not the unlocked version supports 600mhz band 71
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1) There's already a thread to discuss this, started back in September :
T-mobile 600 MHz LTE band 71 on U.S. carrier unlocked LG V30 US998
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
2) There's a hidden menu on the US998 that may have band 71. It even says "T-mobile". The phone just got released yesterday, so no one has had time to mess with it.
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3) Root may enable band 71 by flashing T-mobile radio over it or you may need root to access that T-mobile hidden menu.
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Here's the LTE bands it does come with enabled -- but since all the North America LG V30 variants all have the same FCC ID, then that means they all have the same hardware (antennas). (If I'm wrong about them all having the same FCC ID, someone please provide proof. Because I've researched and only saw one instance of ONE phone being submitted to the FCC -- with all carrier variants using that same assigned FCC ID.) This means ALL the carrier variants (including U.S. Cellular US998) all CAN receive LTE band 71, but only T-mobile H932 has it currently enabled via firmware. Root can take care of that. Either through enabling that hidden menu above or through flashing the T-mobile radio over this phone.
ChazzMatt said:
1) There's a hidden menu on the US998 that may have band 71. It even says "T-mobile". The phone just got released yesterday, so no one has had time to mess with it.
2) Root may enable band 71 by flashing T-mobile radio over it or you may need root to access that T-mobile hidden menu.
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Thanks for the thoughts, I hope it does work out somewhere, hopefully soon cuz I was thinking about getting one as soon as I saw the unlocked go for sale but now if it turns out I won't even get that support I might just get the one plus 5t ( I know it doesn't include it but that was the main thing drawing me to the v30, wouldn't mind trying something else been on my nexus 6 for ages now lol)
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Thanks for the thoughts, I hope it does work out somewhere, hopefully soon cuz I was thinking about getting one as soon as I saw the unlocked go for sale but now if it turns out I won't even get that support I might just get the one plus 5t ( I know it doesn't include it but that was the main thing drawing me to the v30, wouldn't mind trying something else been on my nexus 6 for ages now lol)
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See the screenshot I posted probably after you posted. There's also already a thread to discuss this, started back in September when T-mobile SEEMED to say the unlocked US998 would support band 71, then they backed off.
But we got screenshots of the US998 hidden menu and there's hope.
ChazzMatt said:
...but since all the North America LG V30 variants all have the same FCC ID, then that means they all have the same hardware (antennas). (If I'm wrong about them all having the same FCC ID, someone please provide proof. Because I've researched and only saw one instance of ONE phone being submitted to the FCC -- with all carrier variants using that same assigned FCC ID.) This means ALL the carrier variants (including U.S. Cellular US998) all CAN receive LTE band 71, but only T-mobile H932 has it currently enabled via firmware. Root can take care of that. Either through enabling that hidden menu above or through flashing the T-mobile radio over this phone.
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They don't. Each of the variants have their own FCC filing under LG's mobile division FCC code (ZNF), you can search them up with this page;
VS998 (Verizon)
H932 (T-Mobile)
LS998 (Sprint?)
H930 (Korea)
V30A (US Cellular)
There's also the V300V, not sure what that's all about. There's a user manual here, it's in English and French, which might provide a clue.
There's no separate entry for the unlocked/base handset that I've seen.
Anyway, that's why I've been waiting with bated breath for a class II permissive change to the V30A, to "add" band 71 officially; it hasn't happened.
That's not to say that the hardware isn't the same, but it's disheartening to not see a C2PC filed. It makes no business sense for them to not file, since the unlocked variant would be pure profit for them...unless they were paid a hefty sum by T-Mobile to not do so for a time/at all, thus keeping the band carrier-exclusive.
If it's the latter - just a temporary exclusivity thing - they could claim later to have heard the voice of the people, and release an update that "adds" band 71, reaping the bit of positive publicity that comes with it. A bit scumbaggy, but eh, it's nothing compared to some of the blatantly anti-consumer crap that certain other manufacturers not only get away with, but seem to thrive while doing. I'm looking at you, Samsung.
I would be interested to see what FCCID is listed in the unlocked V30's menu (Settings > General > Regulatory & Safety). It's possible, even probable that it's V30A, same as the US Cellular one...but then the US Cellular handset is at least superficially slightly different (no bootloader unlock and/or likely neutered fastboot). They might have been sneaky and filed the unlocked one's stuff under a non-obvious FCCID.
Septfox said:
They don't. Each of the variants have their own FCC filing under LG's mobile division FCC code (ZNF), you can search them up with this page;
VS998 (Verizon)
H932 (T-Mobile)
LS998 (Sprint?)
H930 (Korea)
V30A (US Cellular)
There's also the V300V, not sure what that's all about. There's a user manual here, it's in English and French, which might provide a clue.
There's no separate entry for the unlocked/base handset that I've seen.
Anyway, that's why I've been waiting with bated breath for a class II permissive change to the V30A, to "add" band 71 officially; it hasn't happened.
That's not to say that the hardware isn't the same, but it's disheartening to not see a C2PC filed. It makes no business sense for them to not file, since the unlocked variant would be pure profit for them...unless they were paid a hefty sum by T-Mobile to not do so for a time/at all, thus keeping the band carrier-exclusive.
If it's the latter - just a temporary exclusivity thing - they could claim later to have heard the voice of the people, and release an update that "adds" band 71, reaping the bit of positive publicity that comes with it. A bit scumbaggy, but eh, it's nothing compared to some of the blatantly anti-consumer crap that certain other manufacturers not only get away with, but seem to thrive while doing. I'm looking at you, Samsung.
I would be interested to see what FCCID is listed in the unlocked V30's menu (Settings > General > Regulatory & Safety). It's possible, even probable that it's V30A, same as the US Cellular one...but then the US Cellular handset is at least superficially slightly different (no bootloader unlock and/or likely neutered fastboot). They might have been sneaky and filed the unlocked one's stuff under a non-obvious FCCID.
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@Septfox, THANK YOU for the info! Glad to hear your voice on this. You bring a lot of knowledge to the matter.
I searched for the V30 in the FCC files but you've had more skill than me. I only found the original V30A stuff.
By the way, the FCC ID for the unlocked US998 is also ZNFV30A. I do see a batch of "Class II Permissive Change" for that device in September. When I have time I'll have to search through and check the frequencies.
Also, see screenshot a few posts up of "T-mobile network mode" in the hidden menu, but seems to root to access. It's possible the band IS there but waiting to be unveiled by LG at at later date for unrooted users, as you said.
But that identical FCC ID brings up a lot of questions.
Does that mean if you could crack the bootloader of the U.S. Cellular model with an exploit, you would have full ADB flash commands?
Is it identical in every way to the "open market" version with the only difference being eligible IMEI on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock List?
ChazzMatt said:
By the way, the FCC ID for the unlocked US998 is also ZNFV30A. I do see a batch of "Class II Permissive Change" for that device in September. When I have time I'll have to search through and check the frequencies.
Also, see screenshot a few posts up of "T-mobile network mode" in the hidden menu, but seems to root to access. It's possible the band IS there but waiting to be unveiled by LG at at later date for unrooted users, as you said.
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The C2PCs filed so far are for NFC and various frequencies between 699.7mhz and 5825mhz. Looks like SAR rating stuff.
The T-mobile network mode thing is interesting, but I don't see why they would include it now, since it apparently doesn't have permissions to do anything. They would have to distribute an update to fix that, in which case...why not just include it in that update?
Maybe it's an easter egg/teaser that some developer slipped in. It's not like upper management would have noticed or cared about some multi-kilobyte extra package being included.
Alternatively, it could just be leftovers from when they were testing for T-Mobile, that never got removed from the build; I'd imagine the test handset(s) were unlocked and rooted so it had permissions. Could be taken as an indication that the base model had the band from the beginning and they simply never filed for it (to maintain aforementioned carrier exclusivity), who knows. Keeping my hopes hopeful but firmly in check.
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But that identical FCC ID brings up a lot of questions.
Does that mean if you could crack the bootloader of the U.S. Cellular model with an exploit, you would have full ADB flash commands?
Is it identical in every way to the "open market" version with the only difference being eligible IMEI on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock List?
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I don't think that being electrically identical necessarily means it's identical in software, too, but...I would guess "yes" all 'round.
If the US Cellular bootloader is key-locked (unlike the other carriers' that were just "locked"), it'd seem to suggest that there's actually something to keep people away from. Unlike the other variants, where they don't have to care because no fastboot commands means no flashing software which means no flashing fastboot to fix the missing fastboot commands
Speaking of which, seems like the only recourse there is to somehow get ahold of a trusted LG update containing a fully-functional version of fastboot, but I'm not even sure carrier updates can touch those partitions, nor do they have any incentive to turn control of the device over.
And yea, I think so. I was under the impression before that LG distributed a tool to unlock phones with, but it sounds like it's the good ol' "send us your IMEI so we can warranty-blacklist it" sort of deal. Entirely up to them as to whether the bootloader is actually unlockable, unless something SunShine-esque is found : \
@ChazzMatt Was there ever a resolution to this? I can't seem to find anyone who positively was able to get to band 71. No matter what I choose from the TMo hidden menu as far as bands are concerned, the LTE Band Selector page never shows anything higher than Band 40, which leads me to believe I might be SOL when it comes to TMo service on 66 or 71. Has anyone successfully flashed the TMo modem onto a US998 (frankenstein'd LS998)?
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@ChazzMatt Was there ever a resolution to this? I can't seem to find anyone who positively was able to get to band 71. No matter what I choose from the TMo hidden menu as far as bands are concerned, the LTE Band Selector page never shows anything higher than Band 40, which leads me to believe I might be SOL when it comes to TMo service on 66 or 71. Has anyone successfully flashed the TMo modem onto a US998 (frankenstein'd LS998)?
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We have LTE band 66 with US998. However, LTE band 71 indeed appears to be T-Mobile H932 exclusive for 2017 phones.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
iOR3K said:
I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
car2carl said:
There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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Have an opportunity to pickup a 2nd and 3rd phone for family.
The phone used to be on T-Mobile as a locked device, now unlocked.
Will it work on AT&T -- is it in fact the same as an AT&T LG V30 ?
xdafly said:
Have an opportunity to pickup a 2nd and 3rd phone for family.
The phone used to be on T-Mobile as a locked device, now unlocked.
Will it work on AT&T -- is it in fact the same as an AT&T LG V30 ?
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The hardware may be identical but the firmware is not. Yes, it will work on AT&T. However it does not have some of the new minor AT&T bands the AT&T version has, like LTE bands 25 and 30. Seriously, you won't notice they are not there. There are no "standalone" locations where AT&T ONLY has LTE bands 25 and 30. Those are "filler" bands to help with congestion and are still being rolled out.
Just like a few years ago when LTE band 5 was first being rolled out. Back then, if you got bumped off the LTE bands 2, 4, 17 (now being called LTE band 12 by AT&T, discussed in depth in threads elsewhere), and your phone didn't have LTE band 5 in areas where it was present, you got temporarily bumped to HSPA. You STILL had carrier signal and went back to LTE as soon as possible.
The important ones are still 2, 4, 12 (Formerly called 17 by AT&T. But band 17 is a subset of the larger LTE band 12, so no need to list both. That would be like saying "includes Georgia and Atlanta." Atlanta is IN Georgia. As of early 2017, all new AT&T phones ONLY list LTE band "12", and no longer list LTE band 17.) -- and now "filler" LTE band 5 is in a lot of places. The T-mobile H932 phone has all four of those(2, 4, 5, 12/17), so yes it will work well on AT&T.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
V30 H931AT&T – USA
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B12 -- which includes band 17 ), LTE1900 (B25), LTE2300 (B30)
TD-LTE2500 (B41), LTE1700/2100 (B66)
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V30 H932SVT-Mobile – USA
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
UMTS2100 (B1), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS850 (B5)
LTE2100 (B1), LTE1900 (B2), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE700 (B12 --- which includes band 17), LTE800 (B20), LTE700 (B28), LTE700 (B29), LTE1700/2100 (B66), LTE600 (B71)
TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
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Now, the T-mobile version has a nifty menu where you can ALLEGEDLY add LTE bands. Whether this actually lets you receive those bands is still up for discussion. We tried enabling T-mobile menu with LTE band 71 for instance in the rooted US998 and no one yet has reported success.
Could you add AT&T 25 and 30? It might let you in the menu, but whether it really worked or not, you would have to tell us.
ChazzMatt said:
The hardware may be identical but the firmware is not. Yes, it will work on AT&T. However it does not have some of the minor AT&T bands the AT&T version has, like LTE bands 25 and 30. Seriously, you won't notice they are not there. There are no "standalone" locations where AT&T ONLY has LTE bands 25 and 30. Those are "filler" bands to help with congestion and are still being rolled out.
Just like a few years ago when LTE band 5 was being rolled out. If you got bumped off the LTE bands 2, 4, 17 (now being called LTE band 12 by AT&T, discussed in depth in threads elsewhere), and your phone didn't have LTE band 5, you got temporarily bumped to HSPA. You STILL had signal and went back to LTE as soon as possible.
The important ones are still 2, 4, 12 (Formerly called 17 by AT&T. But band 17 is a subset of the larger LTE band 12, so no need to list both. That would be like saying "includes Georgia and Atlanta." Atlanta is IN Georgia. All new AT&T phones ONLY list LTE band "12".) and now "filler" LTE band 5 is in a lot of places. The T-mobile phone has those, so yes it will work well on AT&T.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
Now, the T-mobile version has a nifty menu where you can ALLEGEDLY add LTE bands. Whether this actually lets you receive those bands is still up for discussion. We tried enabling T-mobile menu with LTE band 71 for instance in the rooted US998 and no one yet has reported success.
Could you add AT&T 25 and 30? It might let you in the menu, but whether it really worked or not, you would have to tell us.
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AT&T is T-Mobile's domestic roaming partner in some areas. Although band 25 and band 30 aren't available where I roam on to AT&T's network (southern West Virginia). It would make sense that they should work for that reason.
LG though has gone out of their way though to limit working bands on the V30. For some reason, the DS version doesn't want to work with T-Mobile USA bands even though the bands show up in the menu. I don't personally own one but from many years of tinkering with devices. The V30 is the first device I am aware of that lists without modification bands in the engineering menu that actually don't seem to work.
For what it's worth, I have the unlocked/rooted US998 running on AT&T. I've tried to add those extra LTE bands as ChazzMatt described. Band 30 in my case is not enabled or working by default. It allows you to add them, but I haven't got them to work. So I am left wondering if it is hardware difference between the unlocked version and the official AT&T version, or simply firmware? Since LG hasn't officially made bootloader unlock available for the US market unlocked models, there aren't a lot of us to experiment with.
Let's see if I can be coherent about the following.
A previously locked AT&T V30, unlocked via email with code from AT&T.
Proceeded to take this (now unlocked) phone to Verizon. Their phone calls work fine but SMS and data does not work.
When checking the IMEI, their system says invalid IMEI.
When using an AT&T SIM, everything works.
So, unlocking a locked AT&T phone really does nothing at all -- or what is occurring here ?
xdafly said:
Let's see if I can be coherent about the following.
A previously locked AT&T V30, unlocked via email with code from AT&T.
Proceeded to take this (now unlocked) phone to Verizon. Their phone calls work fine but SMS and data does not work.
When checking the IMEI, their system says invalid IMEI.
When using an AT&T SIM, everything works.
So, unlocking a locked AT&T phone really does nothing at all -- or what is occurring here ?
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Most GSM carrier branded phones (AT&T and T-Mobile) don't work on CDMA carrier networks (Sprint and Verizon). Or at least don't work fully. Some phones direct from vendors for the US market (such as the V30 variant US998, Pixel devices and others) work on both GSM and CDMA carriers, while others (such as OnePlus) only work on GSM networks.
In addition to network/band limitations of the phone hardware, CDMA carriers need to specifically add the phone's IMEI to their network in order to provision service. Just popping in a SIM card usually isn't enough.
I am surprised you are getting any service at all, which means your phone was probably unlocked alright, and Verizon must have added it's IMEI to their network. I would say you can try a carrier wipe (dialing ##SCRTN#) but I don't know if it will work on your phone, and you may be required to enter your MSL. So DON'T try it unless you have that.
You should be able to switch to T-Mobile, though, just with a SIM card and entering APN settings.
Edit: If you haven't already performed a Network settings reset (Settings/General/Backup & reset) I would do that first.
Edit2: Regardless of everything, I would love to hear the outcome, particularly if you perform a carrier wipe (##SCRTN#).
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For what it's worth, I have the unlocked/rooted US998 running on AT&T. I've tried to add those extra LTE bands as ChazzMatt described. Band 30 in my case is not enabled or working by default. It allows you to add them, but I haven't got them to work. So I am left wondering if it is hardware difference between the unlocked version and the official AT&T version, or simply firmware? Since LG hasn't officially made bootloader unlock available for the US market unlocked models, there aren't a lot of us to experiment with.
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Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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Did you buy the V30 from T-Mobile directly? T-Mobile only unlocks devices fully paid off by the original purchaser on the active account they purchased it on as long as they don't have a past due balance. You would use the T-Mobile Unlock app that comes preinstalled on the device to remove the SIM lock, if you meet all of those requirements. Otherwise, you are stuck using a third party unlocking service.
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But First... I hate it when people dig up very old threads. This thread was started (Feb 2018) back before we had root for ALL V30 and TWRP-flashable zips for most of them. Most of the information in this thread is outdated and will confuse people reading it.
Second, this thread has NOTHING to do with procedure for carrier unlocking/SIM card unlocking T-mobile H932. So, not sure why this question was asked here....
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DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile.
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Is your phone a T-mobile H932? There are many LG V30 phones which will work on T-mobile. Is this specifically the T-mobile branded LG V30/V30+?
DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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You can only carrier unlock/SIM card unlock the T-mobile H932 through T-mobile servers. Mostly by using the T-Mobile unlock app.
If you cannot do it that way, there are a few 3rd party providers who can spoof your T-mobile H932 to another T-mobile phone model and help you unlock it.
You have to downgrade to Nougat for this to work. They will remote into your PC, with your phone connected and do stuff. But they are still using the unlock app with T-mobile servers.
THIS DOES NOT INVOLVE ANY "CODE". If anyone tries to sell you a "code", that is a scam.
DamienGhioldi said:
Hello I have a Lg v30 with tmobile. I am the owner of the phone and have no outstanding balance with them however they refuse to allow me to unlock the phone. Is there any capacity for me to unlock it otherwise? Id rather not pay for a suspect service and obviously those who do it through a service have some kind of process to doing so and I was wondering if you could illuminate that for me.
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Just adding to the spot-on advice already provided:
In addition to the phone being paid off, the account on which it was purchased must be in good standing, AND the phone must have been active on T-Mobile for at least 40 days (postpaid) or 1 year (prepaid). See T-Mobile's complete requirements here. If you fulfill those requirements, they generally will unlock the phone.
If they either refuse to unlock it or are unable (the latter being a common occurence) you want to file an FCC complaint. It's not a very big or complex process, and it will escalate the matter to T-Mobile's Executive Office. Those guys can unlock the phone in a heartbeat, even when the rest of T-Mobile says it's impossible. I've used them, and so has others. Nice people too. But first make sure you genuinely fulfill their requirements, otherwise you're wasting their time, which I'm sure they don't appreciate.
Otherwise you have to use a 3rd party service as described by @ChazzMatt. The phone must be rooted (last I heard). Check the thread linked below (which would have been much better for this discussion).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-h932-t3966772
Is there any available information on the US carriers that use this phone? I am unfortunately on sprint so I know that the chances are non-existent but I'm still curious on who will get this. In my short google searches, I see Verizon pop up quite a bit.
Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
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Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
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The ASUS ROG is now live on the US site,the specs,including 2G/3G/4G/LTE/CDMA is also posted (pricing & availability are still MIA, release is stated for Q3 2018):
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/Tech-Specs/
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
I would gladly give you a kidney tomorrow for an Asus ROG Phone today.
Any further info heard on a North American release? Been all silent from what I can tell.
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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They are referring to Band 66 and Band 71. Band 66 is a combined band of two of TMobile's bands. I think 2 and 4, to increase throughput. Band 71 is the new 600Mhz band that is being rolled out. This low frequency band will greatly increase building penetration and cover greater distances. Band 71 roll out is scheduled to be mostly completed within the next 2 years. So for those who keep their phones for more than one year, or who live in an area where it has already been rolled out, they will see no benefit from the expanded coverage. The phone does support 2, 4 and 12 which are the minimums for a TMobile customer.
Edit: I was wrong on band 66. It's an extension of band 4 used to increase download speeds only. You can see more about it here https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570
Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
Taiwan version works on AT&T network.
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
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As long as you already have an active Verizon sim you should just pop it in and it will work. I have done this with non Verizon unlocked phones while having phones repaired.
You may have issues if were to go into store and try and set up a new account using it. This may depend on your store you go into as well. I have heard of some stores doing it with no problem, while others wont do it or have issues.
So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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This could be caused by multiple different things.
1. It could be caused by an app that supports calling (ex. skype, tango or similar) being set as the default calling program.
2. Needing to switch network type in network setting to force it to acquire the needed network info.
3.The phones APN might need changed.
4. If the phone is dual sim try the other slot.
@Mdaly001 Which model do you have? Which region did it come from?
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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From Tech spec page on Asus website, the phone has 2 versions (A and B). Only version B has CDMA (Band BC0). Asus US store listing doesn't spell out which version is sold in US. But it listed CDMA 2000 (only exists in version B). However, it also states "This device is not compatible with CDMA Networks such as: Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular." So I still don't know if the US version will "work" on Verizon. It's certainly not certified for Verizon.
For Taiwan version of the phone, can you enable VoLTE on your Verizon account and phone?
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It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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Is there a chance the US will work with Verizon?