Compatible US carriers? - Asus ROG Phone Questions & Answers

Is there any available information on the US carriers that use this phone? I am unfortunately on sprint so I know that the chances are non-existent but I'm still curious on who will get this. In my short google searches, I see Verizon pop up quite a bit.

Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.

Ace42 said:
Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable

ZerosMadness said:
Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
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The ASUS ROG is now live on the US site,the specs,including 2G/3G/4G/LTE/CDMA is also posted (pricing & availability are still MIA, release is stated for Q3 2018):
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/Tech-Specs/
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)

I would gladly give you a kidney tomorrow for an Asus ROG Phone today.

Any further info heard on a North American release? Been all silent from what I can tell.

Ace42 said:
Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...

Jared Foster said:
What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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They are referring to Band 66 and Band 71. Band 66 is a combined band of two of TMobile's bands. I think 2 and 4, to increase throughput. Band 71 is the new 600Mhz band that is being rolled out. This low frequency band will greatly increase building penetration and cover greater distances. Band 71 roll out is scheduled to be mostly completed within the next 2 years. So for those who keep their phones for more than one year, or who live in an area where it has already been rolled out, they will see no benefit from the expanded coverage. The phone does support 2, 4 and 12 which are the minimums for a TMobile customer.
Edit: I was wrong on band 66. It's an extension of band 4 used to increase download speeds only. You can see more about it here https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570

Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?

SgtGoldy said:
Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.

Taiwan version works on AT&T network.

Ace42 said:
Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
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As long as you already have an active Verizon sim you should just pop it in and it will work. I have done this with non Verizon unlocked phones while having phones repaired.
You may have issues if were to go into store and try and set up a new account using it. This may depend on your store you go into as well. I have heard of some stores doing it with no problem, while others wont do it or have issues.

So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.

Mdaly001 said:
So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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This could be caused by multiple different things.
1. It could be caused by an app that supports calling (ex. skype, tango or similar) being set as the default calling program.
2. Needing to switch network type in network setting to force it to acquire the needed network info.
3.The phones APN might need changed.
4. If the phone is dual sim try the other slot.

@Mdaly001 Which model do you have? Which region did it come from?

It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating

Mdaly001 said:
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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From Tech spec page on Asus website, the phone has 2 versions (A and B). Only version B has CDMA (Band BC0). Asus US store listing doesn't spell out which version is sold in US. But it listed CDMA 2000 (only exists in version B). However, it also states "This device is not compatible with CDMA Networks such as: Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular." So I still don't know if the US version will "work" on Verizon. It's certainly not certified for Verizon.
For Taiwan version of the phone, can you enable VoLTE on your Verizon account and phone?

Mdaly001 said:
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.

spoonerweb_com said:
If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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Is there a chance the US will work with Verizon?

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Will this work? Verizon M8 --> AT&T fo-'official'?

I have an old M8 lying around that I fired up and had remembered I had rooted it and the bootloader is unlocked.. Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? I know this sounds really strange and probably stupid but.. I just can't sleep and need something to fill the time.. Can I do it?
Don't think so, radio hardware is different, not to mention the partition layout.
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jbarcus81 said:
Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? ?
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Absolutely not. At least not any way that is known; and your chance of failure is high (with a brick being the possible or even probable result).
As mentioned in the previous comment, the partitioning on the phones is different. If you try to run the RUU, you at best it will fail, at worst it will brick the device.
Most other M8 versions (that don't support CDMA) can be "converted" from one version to another (other exceptions being dual SIM and M8 Eye). But Verizon and Sprint are the oddballs here. Some experienced devs have been messing around with these variants from the start (to try to convert them) with no success.
Perfect! All I needed to hear! Ah well.. it was worth a shot! Just trying to get my account provisioned for LTE so I can get LTE on my unlocked devices.. I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
jbarcus81 said:
I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
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As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
redpoint73 said:
As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
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That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
jbarcus81 said:
That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
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Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
redpoint73 said:
Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
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Yeah.. I'm not worried about it.. I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE .. I've seen this in a few places so it's worth a shot.. I ordered a junk LTE phone branded AT&T to test it out.. ordered a OnePlus 2 and will likely unload the S6 Edge (if it never picks up the LTE from AT&T)
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I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE ..)
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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I've dug deeper and have to not only have an AT&T branded phone, I have to register the IEMI on my account, then swap the SIM card back into the other phone. I've got the phone but can't find a way to do this online so I'll have to call tomorrow...
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I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
long.nguyen said:
I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
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Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
redpoint73 said:
Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
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@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
thanx a lot
cincon said:
@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
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Absolutely NOT. As already thoroughly discussed on this thread, if you attempt to install another version's radio on the Verizon version, it won't work, and you may radio brick the phone (permanent damage possible).
Different radios, different partition layout.
Don't even try it. Experienced devs have tried to "convert" by various methods and mods, and failed.
But there may be other ways (besides flashing another version's radio) to enable the band(s) you want, read on:
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because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
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You can take a look at the following method, as it claims to enable Band 20: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/lte-band-7-2600mhz-finally-guide-t2992523
Read the thread, and proceed at your own discretion. I'm not knowledgeable with changing NV values (it doesn't work on "GSM" M8 variants, so does not apply to me). I simply know this thread exists.
cincon said:
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pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
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Far from a genius, and I don't create any of these mods. I just contribute by passing on knowledge I've gained here. Really, that is part of what XDA is all about.

Dood wheres my 4G? ... Any LTE trouble?

Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
NutsyUK said:
Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
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Are you a new or existing virgin mobile user. If existing did you get a new SIM from Virgin? As they need to issue a new one to you if you want to go 4G.
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Yeah I got the new sim...
NutsyUK said:
Yeah I got the new sim...
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There was also something else I read (virgin user here to - currently non 4G) about having to wait until your next billing cycle until you can begin using 4G services. Annoying and I've seen lots of people complaining as they have to wait to their refresh date which could be anywhere up to a few weeks.
Probably stating the obvious but have you selected the LTE option under (preferred network type) mobile network settings?
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Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
NutsyUK said:
Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
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Possibly yeah, that's the only thing I can think off. Worth it to keep trying the odd reboot or switching in and out of aeroplane mode in case that helps it kick in.
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Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
TheSorton said:
Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
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They use EE's, who use bands *3(1800) and 7(2600), so definitely compatible.
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Have u checked to use another provider?
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
I have the same issue. I'm with Three and it keeps dropping to H+ far too regularly.
Had this sim for a while and worked perfectly well on my Jiayu S3.
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
Galaxy_Galaxy said:
It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
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Band 7 should be supported and usable but I doubt the hardware supports band 4.
You should have gotten the Redmi Note 3 instead, the Chinese version supports band 4, 7 and 40 out of the bands used in Canada, and the Special Edition ("international version") supports bands 2, 4, 7 and 40. The Chinese model also supports 3G on band 4 (1700/AWS).
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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FIDO does not support band 7 too, (even though some sites said Fido supports band 7)
My friend is using Bell, his phone shows 4G instead of 3G.

Band Selection

I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
iOR3K said:
I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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LG V30+ Unlocked (H930DS) Doesn't work with T-Mobile USA

Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
NerdPad said:
Hello Guys,
I recently got an Unlocked LG V30+ (H930DS) from India. I wish I had done some research on the supported bands before buying this one.
It doesn't work with T-Mobile here in US. So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
Thanks,
Zuhaib
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Hello, did you try the hidden menu (whatever is the code) to check bands ?
Hi, any update on this topic? I have the same phone (H930DS) and will move to the US in the next months.
If not T-Mobile, will I be able to use LTE from any of the other big providers?
The code to access the hidden menus for the 930DS is: *#546368#*930# Isn't there an EU version of the 930DS as well?
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
HeartFist said:
For info, I have the HKG H930DS. When I use the code, access "Field Test" and then "LTE Band Selection", I can see the following bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40
I did not click on any of the bands.
Nevertheless it is a little confusing because on Amazon's spec sheet it says: "4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39, 40, 41. (Doesn't have 3G/4G/LTE in the US)"
This lack of LTE bands used in the US is backed by bad user ratings.
The website frequencycheck.com states the phone (H930DS) has bands 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 38, 40, 46.
Also there it say T-Mobile US uses the bands 2, 4, 12, 66 and 71 for LTE, hence it supports two out of five (B4 and B12).
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This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
NerdPad said:
So just wanted to check if anyone knows if this is a hardware limitation, or can be solved by flashing T-Mobile version of LG V30+ ROM when it's available?
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You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
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It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
Septfox said:
You won't be able to do this for now, if ever: the dual-SIM variants aren't (and haven't been in the past) on the bootloader unlock list.
Not much testing has been done so far on enabling "unsupported" bands; the phone is still expensive (less so via carrier subsidies), so people are tending to get the variant that they know will work on the network they want instead of chancing it. I've seen talk of the phone getting "stuck" on a band selected in the test menu, though, so try at your own risk.
For official band support, probably no better source than the FCC test report.
It does indeed have a couple of T-Mobile's bands, as well as partial GSM/UMTS/GPRS...but Frequencycheck says it doesn't actually support any UMTS protocols. The significance of this is beyond my knowledge of cellular stuff, but it seems like lack of protocol support = no way to communicate with the tower (literally can't speak the same language) = no way to negotiate connections ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What is it doing when you insert your SIM card, just flat-out refusing to connect to towers/displaying "No Service"?
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I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
jcsww said:
This is actually common across all V30/V30+ models. The only real difference between one model number to another is the slight variation in the actual software in the device. You should be able to enable and use those bands without issue. The poor user reviews are solely by people who, in a lot of cases, that don't research their device before buying it. Whether or not UMTS is enabled though, just like CDMA, is just a guess until confirmed by someone who owns the device and tries to use it.
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Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
sundoggy said:
Does this mean H930DS will work in Canada as well? since it shows all the correct band. Saw a few having problems to work with t-mobile.
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If the bands are there and enabled, then yes. The only thing that limits which bands can be used is the software and firmware in the device. The issues with T-Mobile might be related to WCDMA/UMTS being locked out in that model. VoLTE though should be possible on bands 2, 4, and 12 though and T-Mobile's WiFi Calling should also work. Canada is similar but also depends on the carrier. Freedom would have the WCDMA/UMTS issues that T-Mobile users are probably having issues with. Rogers/Fido/Chatr however would more than likely be the best fit. Bell/Virgin and Telus/Koodo should be fine as well, but the Rogers network still has GSM service.
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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You get 3G, but no 4G/LTE?
Are you in an urban or rural area?
Did you access the hidden menu and clicked on one of T-Mobile's bands (B4 or B12) for testing purposes?
NigPod said:
I also have the HK LG v30+ and i do get 3g service; quite fustrating that i didn't do much research since when i got my HK S7 it worked perfectly fine with tmobile lte
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What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
jcsww said:
What SIM slot are you using for your SIM? Have you tried the SIM in the other SIM slot to see if that makes any difference?
Edit: One other thing to consider is you need the correct APN settings to access LTE. Has anyone even bothered to check the APN settings and even tried manually enterting them for the US and or Canadian providers they are trying to use?
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by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
sundoggy said:
by the way @jcsww have you start using your T-mobile version V30+ in Canada yet? Working well?
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It works well. I haven't really had any time to compare it to the H933 because it is back in the box ready to be exchanged. In and around Scarborough-Guildwood, signal strength is in and around 91db.
From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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From the box of a H930DS, it doesn't look like B2/4/12 are included, most likely it won't work with T-Mobile/AT&T LTE.
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The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
jcsww said:
The box doesn't list all of the bands supported. Check the engineering menu to see what it actually supports.
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But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
ccval said:
But from what I've reading, from this thread and others, people who bought the H930DS said they don't get LTE with T-Mobile and only 3G?
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APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
jcsww said:
APN settings are important! When lookin at a lot of reviews on Amazon in regard to any product. Most people are stupid! I don't own a 930DS but I have seen screenshots of the LTE Band menu. It supports more bands than are listed on the box that are enabled and working. Asian models will not come with US APN settings and even if they do, I would delete them and enter them manually. Has anyone actually tried that? I have no idea but most consumers just stick their SIM in things and expect them to work, regardless of where it came from.
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I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
ccval said:
I would think they should already have APN settings configured, otherwise, without it, they wouldn't be able to get 3G/any service at all?
But yeah, it would be nice if someone that has a H930DS can confirm. I am trying to buy one but would really appreciate if someone can confirm before doing so. Don't want to get one and have no LTE signals.
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Understandable. I haven't been able to find any locally in Canada or in western Virginia. Then again, western Virginia is fairly rural and I don't want to purchase one online. The screens are too much of an issue on these devices to risk buying one from Ebay, Swappa, Kijiji, and other online sites.
I know Amazon.com has them but I am up in Canada right now and don't want to pay import fees and taxes to bring it to Canada. Amazon may also have a great return policy but I would hate to have to send it back because of screen banding and color uniformity issues. In Toronto, band 2 and 4 are very common and would be easily enough to test with my T-Mobile USA SIM while roaming. Any of the stores I have been in at Pacific Mall don't carry them.

US version missing US LTE bands?

Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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yeah if thats the case this is a turd in the USA
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
lensgrabber said:
According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
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Here's hoping. That would make much more sense. I'll reach out to Nokia again to clarify, cause it would make no sense whatever to not have proper LTE support. I'm assuming I got bad info considering the phone was just announced.
Still missing 29/30 for AT&T which is odd because they're not that new like band 71 for T-Mobile.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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I had a chat with a Nokia rep about this and she posted this for me. It seems to agree with the bands listed on the B&H site.
Its seems only in US we have the 4GB/64 GB variant. If I buy from US, can I use the phone in UK & India?
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
roadrunner4spd said:
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
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I'm on AT&T and have "Enhanced LTE" and WiFi Calling. I can enable both but WiFi calling doesn't work because AT&T won't allow it on a prepaid plan. I don't see why it wouldn't work on TMO but I don't know for sure.
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
I am on ATT and am only getting 4G or H+ Icon and my download speeds peak at 4.5 Mbps. I was on the phone with ATT and we reset and recreated the Access Point Names with no luck. I also got a new SIM card with no luck either.
I think the phone is going back...
There is a difference, what you want to be seeing is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* your data connections as it is faster than 4G. As for VOLTE merely seeing that as an option in your settings does not mean your calls are going to be Voice over LTE. What you want to see is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* phone calls.
Unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during data connections and unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during a phone call you do not know if that phone has LTE capability on their particular carrier. Too many times we see people declaring that their phone has VOLTE (phone calls) or LTE (data connection) because they discovered there is an option to enable it in their settings. Their carrier has to actually be producing it which is only verifiable by screenshots. Hope that helps.
Here is the short explanation...
https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Tech/2012/0430/4G-LTE-What-s-the-difference
and here is a longer one https://www.tccrocks.com/blog/what-is-difference-between-4g-and-4g-lte/
Screen cap while not on a call, TMobile in Denver.
Sorry, can't add another screen cap... Here's one on a call.
lanrover said:
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
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volte - voice over lte. I do not own this devive but I have to assume 4G is LTE. you can download LTE discovery from google play and check with that app.
I was having the same issue with AT&T after getting the Nokia 7.1 and a new nano sim card (no LTE data). Good news (in a roundabout way), after updating to Pie this morning I was getting no data at all, called AT&T and now the network actually recognizes the phone manufacturer as HMD global and they had the option to attach LTE to my plan. So, give it another shot with AT&T customer service.
I'm on ATT. My phone was only indicated 4G (no LTE) until I updated the APN settings. I used ATTs recommended settings for LTE and now I am showing LTE in the status bar.

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