I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
iOR3K said:
I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
car2carl said:
There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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Hi forum. I currently have Verizon service and am considering this phone. I asked a Verizon employee about using it on T-Mobile and she said it wouldn't work. Looking at frequencycheck.com I see the following supported bands:
Band LG V10 - VS990 LG V10 - H901
Band 8 - GSM 850 Yes Yes
Band 10 - E-GSM 900 Yes Yes
Band 13 - DCS 1800 Yes Yes
Band 14 - PCS 1900 Yes Yes
Band 1 - 2100 Yes Yes
Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
LTE Band 3 - 1800 + Yes Yes
LTE Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
LTE Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 7 - 2600 Yes Yes
LTE Band 12 - 700 ac Yes Yes
LTE Band 13 - 700 c Yes
LTE Band 20 - 800 DD Yes
I see that it supports the same bands as T-Mobile version ( model H901 ) and I understand that it is carrier unlocked so why wouldn't it work if I used a T-Mobile SIM ?
slomo
She lied.
It will work fine out of the box since VZW phones come factory unlocked. Just no VoLTE/Wifi calling obviously. Band 2/4/12 is what T-mobile uses for LTE so if you have those then you are set.
slomo2 said:
Hi forum. I currently have Verizon service and am considering this phone. I asked a Verizon employee about using it on T-Mobile and she said it wouldn't work. Looking at frequencycheck.com I see the following supported bands:
Band LG V10 - VS990 LG V10 - H901
Band 8 - GSM 850 Yes Yes
Band 10 - E-GSM 900 Yes Yes
Band 13 - DCS 1800 Yes Yes
Band 14 - PCS 1900 Yes Yes
Band 1 - 2100 Yes Yes
Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 2 - 1900 PCS Yes Yes
LTE Band 3 - 1800 + Yes Yes
LTE Band 4 - AWS 1 Yes Yes
LTE Band 5 - 850 Yes Yes
LTE Band 7 - 2600 Yes Yes
LTE Band 12 - 700 ac Yes Yes
LTE Band 13 - 700 c Yes
LTE Band 20 - 800 DD Yes
I see that it supports the same bands as T-Mobile version ( model H901 ) and I understand that it is carrier unlocked so why wouldn't it work if I used a T-Mobile SIM ?
slomo
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No offense to them, but I doubt the majority of in-store sales associates have knowledge of frequency bands between carriers. They are likely told to tell customers that the phones won't work if they just intend to take it to another carrier (but there is some truth to that, my old Verizon Galaxy S4 didn't get 4G or MMS on AT&T, but recent phones appear to be more uniform). But anyway, like you said, the frequencycheck list checks out. If it is indeed unlocked as you say, you should be good. Do be careful though. You're missing LTE Band 20, and I don't think it's for anything important (normal LTE operates on 2, 4 and 12), but I can't find any information on this band. And, of course, these lists are not always perfect.
Do you think the info from frequencycheck.com is not correct? Accounting the official specs for V10 from Verizon.com, it is only supports LTE Band 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 which is missing the most important Tmo's Band 12.
Of course Verizon is going to tell you that. It should work.
My verizon note 3 works on Tmobile. The v10 from VZW should work with Tmobile too.
T-Mobile V10 on Verizon?
Would then the T-Mobile V10 work on Verizon?
Pink is the new red.
It works. I am using my tmo sim in my vzw lgv10. It rarely get 4Glte tho. Mostly on H or H+.
Oyeve said:
It works. I am using my tmo sim in my vzw lgv10. It rarely get 4Glte tho. Mostly on H or H+.
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Did you have to get it unlocked or did you just put your sim in?
The vzw v10 works on att and tmo. It does use up slightly more battery than normal, because it will always search for cdma first.
clockcycle said:
The vzw v10 works on att and tmo. It does use up slightly more battery than normal, because it will always search for cdma first.
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Good to know. Got mine and I'm debating on switching carriers and today's announcement pushes me a little more to do so. Just wanted to make sure it was possible before my return period was over. So far I love the phone. Just need to get used to carrying the beast.
papalion said:
Would then the T-Mobile V10 work on Verizon?
Pink is the new red.
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Anyone know?
Yes
It should work. I had a good 1/2 hour conversation with the local sales rep, in Fort Lauderdale. He said all the new Android phones are unlocked. We also discussed rooting. His phones are rooted. He said not to root until the Knox counter is not tripped.
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preludemd said:
Did you have to get it unlocked or did you just put your sim in?
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No unlockingg or rooting required.
rlivin said:
Anyone know?
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Here is my story.
I am using Cricket wireless and bought a Verizon version LG 10 from Best Buy. It's a unlocked phone by default. This phone dose support LTE band 2, 4, 12 (Not sure 17) that compatible with ATT. But there is an issue when you use it in GSM/LTE mobile carrier.
By default the network type is set to "Global". This allows you to talk, text under GSM network (HSPA+, 3G), not in LTE network. If you switch the network type to "LTE/CDMA", you are able to connect to 4G LTE network, but you cannot talk or send text message.
Is there anyone who knows how to have voice, text with LTE network at the same time? Thanks
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Will not get 4g LTE
I purchased an unlocked verizon lg v10 and when i plugged in my sim i realized it will not get 4g lte only HSPA+, LTE will display here and their but will disappear and change over to H. I hope someone can fix this or else i think ill be getting a different device.
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miguel72389 said:
I purchased an unlocked verizon lg v10 and when i plugged in my sim i realized it will not get 4g lte only HSPA+, LTE will display here and their but will disappear and change over to H. I hope someone can fix this or else i think ill be getting a different device.
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I have the same problem and cant seem to resolve it, were you able to get this fixed???
Its because i belive tmo uses a band that verizon doesnt to run its lte service I'm trying to trade. If root comes maybe someone will be able to assit damn verizon
yes it works with t-mobile, i am using verizon v10 on t-mobile right now, i disable most of verizon apps on the phone. also set up the apn for t-mobile in order to get data. the only annoying part left is that the phone tell you the sim is not from verizon everytime you restart, but that can easily swipe away just like any other notification.
Lazybumx said:
yes it works with t-mobile, i am using verizon v10 on t-mobile right now, i disable most of verizon apps on the phone. also set up the apn for t-mobile in order to get data. the only annoying part left is that the phone tell you the sim is not from verizon everytime you restart, but that can easily swipe away just like any other notification.
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You get lte speeds?
Anyone tried this or seen this?
I just ordered an "unlocked" G5 H830 on Ebay, after carefully checking the LTE bands on the FrequencyCheck. I know I need bands 2 and 17 because I used the LTE Discovery App to determine that my carrier (AT&T US) provides LTE on in my area. But I just realized that other sites show different LTE bands for the H830 model...
FrequencyCheck LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/30 (I hope this is right because I need Band 17)
The LG Website LTE 2/4/5/12/29/30, Roaming 1/3/7/20, and CA
Autoprime's helpful G5 thread LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B20
Can anyone confirm which of these is correct? Or verify that the H830 cannot use Band 17? Has anyone succeeded in adding LTE bands to the G5? Perhaps as described in this thread about phones with Qualcomm chipsets?
The moral of the story - check multiple websites when selecting a model with the right frequency bands for your carrier/area!
captainscience said:
I just ordered an "unlocked" G5 H830 on Ebay, after carefully checking the LTE bands on the FrequencyCheck. I know I need bands 2 and 17 because I used the LTE Discovery App to determine that my carrier (AT&T US) provides LTE on in my area. But I just realized that other sites show different LTE bands for the H830 model...
FrequencyCheck LTE 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/17/30 (I hope this is right because I need Band 17)
The LG Website LTE 2/4/5/12/29/30, Roaming 1/3/7/20, and CA
Autoprime's helpful G5 thread LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B20
Can anyone confirm which of these is correct? Or verify that the H830 cannot use Band 17? Has anyone succeeded in adding LTE bands to the G5? Perhaps as described in this thread about phones with Qualcomm chipsets?
The moral of the story - check multiple websites when selecting a model with the right frequency bands for your carrier/area!
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I know it's been a month
For att, band 12 support is equivalent to band 17 support. If you see a phone with band 12, it'll work on att's band 17
(12 is a superset of 17. Att has deployed mfbi on most of their network so that 12 phones can connect to their 17 network
Reverse is not true- 17 phones cannot connect to 12 networks since 17 phones are missing the nonoverlapping stuff in 12
That saying , I can't help with lte bands (h830 may or may not be missing 29/30 which att uses as a third lte layer. Not that important since you can rely on band 12/17/5 as first layer, band 2/4 as second layer)
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
Link420able said:
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
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The US998 is the "carrier unlocked" version, and many people have used US998 on Verizon, so there's no question the US998 has that band.
Converting any other North America phone to that should let you have all those bands of the US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
ChazzMatt said:
The US998 is the "carrier unlocked" version, and many people have used US998 on Verizon, so there's no question the US998 has that band.
Converting any other North America phone to that should let you have all those bands of the US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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Ill have to test APN settings and clean boot with a verizon sim then. Ive tested a sim and it pulled phone number, but was still looking for signal.
Try making a backup in TWRP, and then flash JUST the Verizon system partition and see what you get.
rild is the daemon that talks to the modem, and Verizon may be slightly different.
-- Brian
Link420able said:
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
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Maybe relevant to your question:
tyrich30 said:
Does anyone know how to get the Advanced Call feature to work. Mine is greyed out. VZW V30 to US998 . Everything else seems to work.
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Just an update. I featured it out. Had to go into the hidden menu *#*#4636#*#*, Phone information, turn VoLTE Provisioned = BAM! Back in business.
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LOVE success stories like that.
What is the verdict? H931 on CDMA yay/nay?
It works just fine. Just depends on the rom you use. On stock us998 i can get verizon to work but on boombox, i cant get a signal.
Hello. I'm planning to buy H931 and do the Frankenstein conversion to us998. The question is H931 doesn't have the UMTS 900 band but if I do the process for us998 will I have UMTS 900 or is a hardware thing?
racsomar said:
Hello. I'm planning to buy H931 and do the Frankenstein conversion to us998. The question is H931 doesn't have the UMTS 900 band but if I do the process for us998 will I have UMTS 900 or is a hardware thing?
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You will have all bands of US998.
The Frankenstein instructions make that clear.
ChazzMatt said:
You will have all bands of US998.
The Frankenstein instructions make that clear.
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Im sorry my English is not very good. But is unbelievable that H931 doesn't show UMTS 900 band on official description and doing the Frankenstein conversion you can add that UMTS 900 band. So it means that is disabled wow.
Another question. If the H931 AT&T model is not unlocked and I do the convertion then will be unlocked? Or I have to buy the unlock code for the IMEI???
racsomar said:
Im sorry my English is not very good. But is unbelievable that H931 doesn't show UMTS 900 band on official description and doing the Frankenstein conversion you can add that UMTS 900 band. So it means that is disabled wow.
Another question. If the H931 AT&T model is not unlocked and I do the convertion then will be unlocked? Or I have to buy the unlock code for the IMEI???
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Yes, AT&T H931 will be SIM card unlocked/network unlocked when you convert to US998.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
patato21 said:
OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
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I get the success message when clicking on band 13 in the hidden menu. I am using the latest stock US998 rom. Its given me the best reception and still runs fluid as can be.
Also, did you just insert your sim card into the phone from your previous device or did you manually enter your IMEI to your phone number in your T-Mobile account? Is the sim card brand new or several years old? Not being nosey or questioning your ability, just making sure your device properly activated on T-Mobiles network for best network performance. I don't think T-Mobile is picky with verizon IMEIs as 99% of verizon phones are sim unlocked out of the box and T-mobile likes to advertise towards verizon customers.
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Also, did you just insert your sim card into the phone from your previous device or did you manually enter your IMEI to your phone number in your T-Mobile account? Is the sim card brand new or several years old? Not being nosey or questioning your ability, just making sure your device properly activated on T-Mobiles network for best network performance. I don't think T-Mobile is picky with verizon IMEIs as 99% of verizon phones are sim unlocked out of the box and T-mobile likes to advertise towards verizon customers.
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My T-Mobile service is actually through Tracfone. I activated it on a G5 H830 (TMO), and then moved over to a V20 H910 (AT&T). I did notice poorer reception on the V20 because I rarely locked into band 12. I always had excellent reception on the G5 and frequent band 12. I tried this SIM just now on a Canadian G6 H873 from Videotron, went into hidden menu *#546368#*873# -> Field test -> Modem settings -> LTE Band Selection -> Band 12. I instantly got Band 12 locked in, but went back to Automatic mode: (Field Test -> Network Mode -> Automatic). This band selection menu leaves you locked to that LTE band only, and you can't select multiple, so I went back and got Band 4 which is stronger in my house. If it were rooted, there's a hidden LTE menu that allows you to select multiple bands (through "tmo only" and iot menu, search LTEBand and BandSelection in shortcut master lite when rooted). Doing this on my VS996 -> US998 it falls back to 3G as it can't find Band 12 for some reason. I've tried wiping the modemst1 and modemst2 partitions to no avail. I'm now on the AS998 (ACG or C-Spire?) 20b KDZ. It should be identical to the LS998 (Sprint) modem and supports bands 2, 4, and 12. I kept TWRP recovery by not flashing the recovery in LGUP, INSTANTLY GO INTO FACTORY RESET (Power + Vol up) or else recovery will be wiped, flashed magisk 17.3, Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt, lg-rctd-disabler, erased modemst1/2, and booted up. The hidden menu in the AS998 has all bands greyed out in the hidden menu only accessible through root, and the LTE band selection menu reports FAILED on all bands, so it's locked to the stock bands of the AS998/LS998. I'll report later on my findings.
TWRP Terminal command to wipe modemst1 and modemst2:
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modemst1 bs=16384
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modemst2 bs=16384
Link420able said:
I get the success message when clicking on band 13 in the hidden menu. I am using the latest stock US998 rom. Its given me the best reception and still runs fluid as can be.
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I'm confused. Do they want band 13 or band 12? They started talking about band 13, then started talking about T-mobile band 12.
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patato21 said:
OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
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Do you want band 12 or band 13?
ChazzMatt said:
Do you want band 12 or band 13?
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I want band 12, I just found it amazing that OP has band 13 and CDMA on his H931 -> US998. Mainly because the H931 is GSM and shouldn't come with an ESN/pESN, just IMEI and MEID. And due to Verizon being picky about devices. I had an RS988 G5 and that didn't work well with them.
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Do you want band 12 or band 13?
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I want band 12, I just found it amazing that OP has band 13 and CDMA on his H931 -> US998. Mainly because the H931 is GSM and shouldn't come with an ESN/pESN, just IMEI and MEID. And due to Verizon being picky about devices. I had an RS988 G5 and that didn't work well with them.[/QUOTE]
When you convert it with Frankenstein, it converts to have all the bands.
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When you convert it with Frankenstein, it converts to have all the bands.
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Not mine, I converted a VS996 -> US998 and don't get band 12 or 17. I the same SIM on a G6 from Canada (H873) and band 12 works on Tracfone via T-Mobile and on AT&T (prepaid).
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Not mine, I converted a VS996 -> US998 and don't get band 12 or 17. I tried this on a G6 from Canada and band 12 works on Tracfone via T-Mobile and on AT&T (prepaid).
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No one else has said this, in fact the opposite.
I'm not talking about T-mobile at all, as they have put specific requirements on their band 12 due toWifi calling, etc.
But many are using us998 on T-mobile, whether converted or original.
That doesn't prove you don't have band 12. Also, ATT no longer calls band 17 as 17. On all newer phones, it's band 12, as 17 is a subset of 12. If you look at the H931 specs it says "12" , not 17. Their 12 is fully interoperable with T-mobile band 12 and includes 17.
Is there any available information on the US carriers that use this phone? I am unfortunately on sprint so I know that the chances are non-existent but I'm still curious on who will get this. In my short google searches, I see Verizon pop up quite a bit.
Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Will probably be a GSM only phone, too early to say though. If T-Mobile and Sprint merge your concern will no longer be necessary, but it's not clear whether that deal will go through soon.
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Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
ZerosMadness said:
Hope this is accurate cause it will be my next phone if the bootloader is unlockable
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The ASUS ROG is now live on the US site,the specs,including 2G/3G/4G/LTE/CDMA is also posted (pricing & availability are still MIA, release is stated for Q3 2018):
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone/Tech-Specs/
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
I would gladly give you a kidney tomorrow for an Asus ROG Phone today.
Any further info heard on a North American release? Been all silent from what I can tell.
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Ouch. No B66 nor B71 for T-Mobile. I think LTE-U is missing as there's no mention of 46/252/255.
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29, 32)
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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What does the U indicate in LTE-U? And, what type of channels have a B attached to them? According to T Mo, and ASUS channel listings there are channels 2, 4, 5 available. I ask because I am also a T mo customer, and I want to buy this phone very much...
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They are referring to Band 66 and Band 71. Band 66 is a combined band of two of TMobile's bands. I think 2 and 4, to increase throughput. Band 71 is the new 600Mhz band that is being rolled out. This low frequency band will greatly increase building penetration and cover greater distances. Band 71 roll out is scheduled to be mostly completed within the next 2 years. So for those who keep their phones for more than one year, or who live in an area where it has already been rolled out, they will see no benefit from the expanded coverage. The phone does support 2, 4 and 12 which are the minimums for a TMobile customer.
Edit: I was wrong on band 66. It's an extension of band 4 used to increase download speeds only. You can see more about it here https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570
Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Sorry for not understanding all the band talk, will it be available for Verizon? Also, anyone think it'll be available through Verizon?
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
Taiwan version works on AT&T network.
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Big Red needs B2, B4, B13, BC0 and BC1 (CDMA).
The first 4 *are* present in the ROG. But, I'm not sure if VZ allows non-VZ phones to be used, or if the IMEI has to be whitelisted for their network.
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As long as you already have an active Verizon sim you should just pop it in and it will work. I have done this with non Verizon unlocked phones while having phones repaired.
You may have issues if were to go into store and try and set up a new account using it. This may depend on your store you go into as well. I have heard of some stores doing it with no problem, while others wont do it or have issues.
So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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So I have Verizon sim. Data is working no problem but it won't make any calls. Says mobile network unavailable.
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This could be caused by multiple different things.
1. It could be caused by an app that supports calling (ex. skype, tango or similar) being set as the default calling program.
2. Needing to switch network type in network setting to force it to acquire the needed network info.
3.The phones APN might need changed.
4. If the phone is dual sim try the other slot.
@Mdaly001 Which model do you have? Which region did it come from?
It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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From Tech spec page on Asus website, the phone has 2 versions (A and B). Only version B has CDMA (Band BC0). Asus US store listing doesn't spell out which version is sold in US. But it listed CDMA 2000 (only exists in version B). However, it also states "This device is not compatible with CDMA Networks such as: Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular." So I still don't know if the US version will "work" on Verizon. It's certainly not certified for Verizon.
For Taiwan version of the phone, can you enable VoLTE on your Verizon account and phone?
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It's the international model. Shipped from Taiwan. From what I can tell there is no difference from international and usa model.
So in apn settings but won't let me edit existing nor add a new one. The only thing I can change is the apn name. Can't change mmsc settings or anything else. This super frustrating
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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If it is from Taiwan, then no CDMA (Verizon). Taiwan has GSM only.
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Is there a chance the US will work with Verizon?
I currently have a LG V20. Where I work is probably 3 miles from a Verizon tower. We have very weak signal out here, and sometimes I can't even get texts for a while.
Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception?
Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
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Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception for Verizon?
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Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
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Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
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Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
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What's a good app to use to check for that?
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What's a good app to use to check for that?
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LTE Discovery app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
If you keep it on while you drive, it will keep a record of all bands you lock onto.
You can also use it while standing still to see what band is near where you are, of course.
CDMA SHUTDOWN
Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
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Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
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So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
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So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
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Somehow the ZTE Axon 7 (not even a Verizon device) has Verizon VoLTE on Lineage. (Or did a couple years ago. Have not checked recently.) It was a mystery the dev either could not explain or did not want to explain, at that time.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+