My Tmobile Samsung S5 had tripped Knox after rooted. I read that Triangle Away can set back the Knox counter. Before purchasing this app, I want to ask have anyone able to use Triangle Away on the S5? Thank!
caodangra said:
My Tmobile Samsung S5 had tripped Knox after rooted. I read that Triangle Away can set back the Knox counter. Before purchasing this app, I want to ask have anyone able to use Triangle Away on the S5? Thank!
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It will not work. If you try it, it may brick your phone.
MattMJB0188 said:
It will not work. If you try it, it may brick your phone.
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thank for the information.:good:
caodangra said:
thank for the information.:good:
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No problem.
There is a new ROM that takes care of this problem. But you have to install that ROM. Just go under development there are only a few there.
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dpshptl said:
There is a new ROM that takes care of this problem. But you have to install that ROM. Just go under development there are only a few there.
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I think you are misinformed. KNOX cannot currently be subverted.
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I think you are misinformed. KNOX cannot currently be subverted.
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That is correct - some have said (those that know more than I) that tripping knox blows a Q FUSE which as I understand it is a phyisical attribute on the phone not a software attribute - - to UNDO that would be impossible without a soldering iron of somekind -)(joking) but there are tons of QFUSES avaialble from what I have read - and it seems that Samsung and maybe even the carrier tech staff have a way of "Reassigning" the QFUSE or someting - as many phones taken back for repairs are returned with Knox reset to 0.
I may be completely wrong in the way I am describing this - as I am not developer and have only read a bunch about it - much of which was way over my head - but that is my interpreation of how it works (on a very simple level)
For the record, I ran Triangle Away on my TMO S5 without any issue. I'm not sure if it worked as I have not checked.. but it did not brick my phone.
Also, this is the first I've heard of this KNOX chip and hardware tampering system. It is very possible to construct a loop that is designed to blow a fuse; thus triggering a desired software effect. HOWEVER, its still software which means that (in theory) its still possible to work around. If all of this is true, it will only be a matter of time before we have a work around.
luckyduck69 said:
For the record, I ran Triangle Away on my TMO S5 without any issue. I'm not sure if it worked as I have not checked.. but it did not brick my phone.
Also, this is the first I've heard of this KNOX chip and hardware tampering system. It is very possible to construct a loop that is designed to blow a fuse; thus triggering a desired software effect. HOWEVER, its still software which means that (in theory) its still possible to work around. If all of this is true, it will only be a matter of time before we have a work around.
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wondering any update did it work or not ....i need to send my phone in and wanted to know
There is currently no way to reset the Knox Warranty flag on a G900T (and most other models) once it has been set to 0x1. Triangle away does not work. Tons of threads on XDA about this, and much more discussion can be found with a simple Google search.
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wondering any update did it work or not ....i need to send my phone in and wanted to know
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Don't send it in. Go to a retail store. Less chance of them checking.
hondasforlife said:
wondering any update did it work or not ....i need to send my phone in and wanted to know
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Triangle away will not reset your Knox flag.
The flag can be reset in theory and has actually has been reset under controlled conditions in Development threads. But don't expect an end user solution to materialize anytime soon. For all practical purposes, a Knox flag is irreversible.
Sending a 0x1 phone to Samsung for warranty service will inevitably get it returned as unrepairable i.e. a refused warranty claim. If you live in the EU you can argue with them as their are stronger consumer protection laws ostensibly preventing them from refusing a claim unless they can demonstrate that your root damaged the phone.
For anyone elsewhere, it's more effective to claim warranty through your carrier. Many carriers don't care about Knox.
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caodangra said:
thank for the information.:good:
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my friend just took a GS5 back to tmobile because he basiclly bicked it and was to impatient to drop iot off at my house to fix it. They gave him a new one no questions asked and knox was tripped ..Its like they dont even care .. If you have premium handset protection it dont even matter if you trip knox . I think they would rather get a knox tripped phone rather than one that has a cracked screen ..The sales people up there only know how to do one thngand that is a factory reset to solve any and all problems .LOL.The last thing tmobile wants to do is keep you from having a phone.
T-Mobile does not check if Knox was tripped. They don't know how to check it anyways. Just make sure that if they ask, do not give an impression that the phone is rooted.
I bricked my phone & brought back to Sprint & got a new one without a problem... Thank God!
fffft said:
Triangle away will not reset your Knox flag.
The flag can be reset in theory and has actually has been reset under controlled conditions in Development threads. But don't expect an end user solution to materialize anytime soon. For all practical purposes, a Knox flag is irreversible.
Sending a 0x1 phone to Samsung for warranty service will inevitably get it returned as unrepairable i.e. a refused warranty claim. If you live in the EU you can argue with them as their are stronger consumer protection laws ostensibly preventing them from refusing a claim unless they can demonstrate that your root damaged the phone.
For anyone elsewhere, it's more effective to claim warranty through your carrier. Many carriers don't care about Knox.
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Some info in this thread is false, but this user explains it correctly. Triangle away is not about the Knox counter but about the Flash counter, which counts if your phone has been flashed. And on some devices it counts how many times you've flashed. I've attached a screenshot to clarify
The OP question, if triangle away works wasn't answered that i saw. I boldly tried it, with TriangeAway version 3.26 on an international SM-G900F with Polish Lollipop rom ...BNL9 version. The phone was Odin flashed with official Polish firmware to upgrade to 5.0 lollipop and then rooted with CF autoroot. And on this device TriangleAway worked! Flash counters were reset to official. Knox still tripped of course.
Nice Thread. I have some more questions about this topic. I have a S5 with Phoenix ROM.
I don't care about knox or warranty, but for cosmetic issues I would like to have this SEAndroid Enforcing Thingy go away. So may I ask what part of the system reports This message. And what does SEAndroid mean? If this is some kind of certificate or other property? How will the phone know if, for example, Android 5.3 comes out? Or will that use an old kernel the phone already knows?
What are the chances someone makes a custom kernel that is SEAndroid Enforcing?
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Nice Thread. I have some more questions about this topic. I have a S5 with Phoenix ROM.
I don't care about knox or warranty, but for cosmetic issues I would like to have this SEAndroid Enforcing Thingy go away. So may I ask what part of the system reports This message. And what does SEAndroid mean? If this is some kind of certificate or other property? How will the phone know if, for example, Android 5.3 comes out? Or will that use an old kernel the phone already knows?
What are the chances someone makes a custom kernel that is SEAndroid Enforcing?
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Triangle away will not remove it. Only way to remove it is to run 100% stock kernel
Could not someone edit the text to Kernel ready for CPUSPEEDENFORCING? Or Kernel Is too smart for the phone? P.S. Your answer was already given. I asked something else.
In an effort to reclaim the thread and keep it going (as for a question that I have as well), what is the hardware effect that the QFUSE breaking causes? My Knox was tripped before I received the phone, and the only noticeable flaw I have (not sure if it is Knox related because I received the phone by a trade) is that within my back camera pictures, I have three black spots that look like burns (snapshot attached). Could someone help me out?
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Haven't found this. Is rooting this device reversible in such a way as ATT cannot tell you ever rooted it and warranty/insurance would cover it if something comes up with the phone?
Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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orangekid said:
Haven't found this. Is rooting this device reversible in such a way as ATT cannot tell you ever rooted it and warranty/insurance would cover it if something comes up with the phone?
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I tripped the flash counter on my ATT SGS2 and it even had the big triangle with exclamation point come up on boot after the counter was triggered. I had a problem with calls dropping and they could not determine the cause and I was able to swap it out for a new one in store even with a custom rom and the counter tripped. The guy at the ATT store didnt even pay attention when it booted up with the big triangle on the screen. I don't know if this guy just missed this or if ATT just doesnt care all together.
I think if you are really worried about your warranty then I would wait until a solution comes around to either reset the counter or root without tripping it in the first place just to be safe. Because when I got my replacement SGS2 they had already come up with another method that did not trip the flash counter.
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Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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I know that much, but can they tell you ever flashed Odin in the first place?
Unfortunately atm rooting will trigger your flash counter and there is no way of resetting it, if im not mistaken.
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Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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This is true but the flash counter will not be reset.
Romee74 said:
I tripped the flash counter on my ATT SGS2 and it even had the big triangle with exclamation point come up on boot after the counter was triggered. I had a problem with calls dropping and they could not determine the cause and I was able to swap it out for a new one in store even with a custom rom and the counter tripped. The guy at the ATT store didnt even pay attention when it booted up with the big triangle on the screen. I don't know if this guy just missed this or if ATT just doesnt care all together.
I think if you are really worried about your warranty then I would wait until a solution comes around to either reset the counter or root without tripping it in the first place just to be safe. Because when I got my replacement SGS2 they had already come up with another method that did not trip the flash counter.
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that's what I was looking for. Thanks!
Picking up this bad boy today. I wanted to root it first thing for no ads and to use mybackuproot to restore all my apps from my old HD2, but I guess I'll wait. If I get a bad screen or something I don't want them to say "well you tripped the flash counter, so we can't do **** for you"
if its a hardware problem they still have to replace it weather you rooted it or not. bad hardware is bad hardware. i have had people atleast on sprint return devices that had custom roms for what ever reason and as long as its a true hardware issue it would play no difference on the return
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if its a hardware problem they still have to replace it weather you rooted it or not. bad hardware is bad hardware. i have had people atleast on sprint return devices that had custom roms for what ever reason and as long as its a true hardware issue it would play no difference on the return
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are you sure about that, I thought rooting violates all warranty claims.
depends on how you root. rooting a phone wont do much of anything. messing with your kernel will. kernel is what gets you in trouble most of the time.
drksilenc said:
depends on how you root. rooting a phone wont do much of anything. messing with your kernel will. kernel is what gets you in trouble most of the time.
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I mean the carrier can say "no" to everything even if obviously the root didn't cause the problem because technically rooting voids the warranty. I've known Sprint to do this.
I'm not talking about what they "should" do or if rooting does anything bad, I'm talking about what ATT ACTUALLY does in these cases.
Buy a USB download jig. It resets your flash counter back to 0.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNBrick-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-i9100-Download-Mode-USB-Jig-/270805686806
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well if you root without changing your counter. just delete the su app using command line and your good none the wiser on there part.
adelmundo said:
Buy a USB download jig. It resets your flash counter back to 0.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNBrick-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-i9100-Download-Mode-USB-Jig-/270805686806
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Read the forums. People have already tested and said multiple times that the jigs don't work on the Note due to a new bootloader.
I'm just curious as I'm new to this.
Not being a negative thinker here, but is there a chance that there will NEVER be a method that will reset the counters back to 0? Jig or what other methods can be used?
I love the Note and I was really excited on all this rooting stuff until I found out about this one. I have bad luck with gadgets as they fail on me most of the time even before the contract is up. It would be a pain that if it happens, Samsung will deny me the warranty because of that after paying $299.
Or could this "New Bootloader" be the new "Locked bootloader" (Like the Atrix when it was lauched?)
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drksilenc said:
well if you root without changing your counter. just delete the su app using command line and your good none the wiser on there part.
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but that's not possible is it?
keplenk said:
I'm just curious as I'm new to this.
Not being a negative thinker here, but is there a chance that there will NEVER be a method that will reset the counters back to 0? Jig or what other methods can be used?
I love the Note and I was really excited on all this rooting stuff until I found out about this one. I have bad luck with gadgets as they fail on me most of the time even before the contract is up. It would be a pain that if it happens, Samsung will deny me the warranty because of that after paying $299.
Or could this "New Bootloader" be the new "Locked bootloader" (Like the Atrix when it was lauched?)
Thanks
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It's not a locked bootloader because it's already been rooted. But it is a new bootloader that apparently really wants to count flashes.
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Read the forums. People have already tested and said multiple times that the jigs don't work on the Note due to a new bootloader.
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Yes I have read the forums.
It does work on the new bootloader (been tested and done on 2.3.6). For reference see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354888
However on the AT&T version it has not been tested yet. Only on the Int'l version. I would wait for confirmation to see if and when the AT&T version has been tested.
Another way to do it, once ICS 4.0 comes on this phone, is to use Chainfire's app called TriangleAway (have to be rooted) and you can reset the counter back to 0 as well. Someone did it on their Int'l Note by flashing the ICS 4.0 leak and then using TriangleAway. Then using Odin to put on another ROM.8
So basically the questions are
1) can you flash something which does not trip the counter which can be fully restored to stock that roots your phone?
2) Is there a way to bring the trip counter back to zero?
adelmundo said:
Yes I have read the forums.
It does work on the new bootloader (been tested and done on 2.3.6). For reference see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354888
However on the AT&T version it has not been tested yet. Only on the Int'l version. I would wait for confirmation to see if and when the AT&T version has been tested.
Another way to do it, once ICS 4.0 comes on this phone, is to use Chainfire's app called TriangleAway (have to be rooted) and you can reset the counter back to 0 as well. Someone did it on their Int'l Note by flashing the ICS 4.0 leak and then using TriangleAway. Then using Odin to put on another ROM.8
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International bootloader =/= AT&T Bootloader. The different SoC's and build dates along with other factors mean that we can't use the jig method right now. There is no downgrade bootloader for use to use, even. We're stuck.
Have any one notice this.
Used triangle away and my flash counter is 0
I wonder this has any impact for those who want to send their device for service/ warranty?
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Read the thread for Triangle Away, it explains this.
Flash the stock rom for your region.
It will revert back to normal
Sorry to hijack your thread, but i noticed mine says the same, and i havent flashed it. However i have root access, so i guess that is enough to make it "modified".
Would this go back to normal, if i unroot it?
Funnily enough, I noticed this just today on mine - mine is an original unlocked phone, all I've done is root it.
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i havent flashed it. However i have root access, so i guess that is enough to make it "modified".
Would this go back to normal, if i unroot it?
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I noticed this just today on mine - mine is an original unlocked phone, all I've done is root it.
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Rooting it involves an "unauthorised" flash. You need to Triangle Away, pull the battery then revert to stock... As detailed in the Triangle Away post.
Just follow these two video in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613
And you will be able to have your phones status say "Normal" instead of "Modified"
I just noticed this on my GNOTE II and was wondering can the service provider read this?
yes
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Nosy mother f*ckers! My device MINE NOT YOURS! Now go sit in the corner.
On a serious note though I wonder if they can or will do anything due to this state being set as Modified.
they can deny warranty. you can easily revert to stock though
I have Assurion for that. Not worried about warranty claims. I was more worried about purposely affecting my internet speeds just to be ass holes. I could see Verizon doing that just to be Verizon.
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I have Assurion for that. Not worried about warranty claims. I was more worried about purposely affecting my internet speeds just to be ass holes. I could see Verizon doing that just to be Verizon.
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oh, I thought you asked if they can read that if you send the phone to them
nah, I don't think they'll do that
sorry should have been more specific. I was meaning if they can digitally read it from their diagnostic software or whatever they have. I've never worked in a cell phone call center. Maybe I should go get a job at one just to scope out what they can and cannot find out by just a push of a button.
keep us updated
Is there like a max limit of numbers the flash counter can go upto? I see people talking about this. I'm coming from a motorola Atrix, and we never had such a thing, so I want to make sure before I root.
I want to use the toolkit to do it easily without ODIN and all so I guess my flash counter will go up one. what disadvantages does this have?
Will something like triangle away from the market reset the flash counter from our phones?
Thanks!
razorseal said:
Is there like a max limit of numbers the flash counter can go upto? I see people talking about this. I'm coming from a motorola Atrix, and we never had such a thing, so I want to make sure before I root.
I want to use the toolkit to do it easily without ODIN and all so I guess my flash counter will go up one. what disadvantages does this have?
Will something like triangle away from the market reset the flash counter from our phones?
Thanks!
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No limit. It's basically in indicator to Samsung or the repair facility whether or not you've modified the firmware in any way, and if it's clear you have it's pretty much an automatic void of your warranty if they notice it. Triangle Away does not work on the US variants from all I've read. The only disadvantage is upping your flash counter and running the chance of having a warranty claim denied as a result.
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No limit. It's basically in indicator to Samsung or the repair facility whether or not you've modified the firmware in any way, and if it's clear you have it's pretty much an automatic void of your warranty if they notice it. Triangle Away does not work on the US variants from all I've read. The only disadvantage is upping your flash counter and running the chance of having a warranty claim denied as a result.
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I found the sticky that talks about this... you say that if you root and use CWM to install ROMs, it won't trip...
what method do you use to root for the first time without tripping that number then?
is it this method here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
I ask because they said if you use ODIN, it will trip the counter if it's not official samsung rom. so then it would trip to 1, no?
razorseal said:
is it this method here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
I ask because they said if you use ODIN, it will trip the counter if it's not official samsung rom. so then it would trip to 1, no?
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Did you bother to read that thread? Yes thats the one
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Gadgetz said:
No limit. It's basically in indicator to Samsung or the repair facility whether or not you've modified the firmware in any way, and if it's clear you have it's pretty much an automatic void of your warranty if they notice it. Triangle Away does not work on the US variants from all I've read. The only disadvantage is upping your flash counter and running the chance of having a warranty claim denied as a result.
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If triangle away doesn't work now, I'm sure they'll find a way in the future. Hopefully before I have any issues.
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Gadgetz said:
Did you bother to read that thread? Yes thats the one
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read the whole dang thing
razorseal said:
read the whole dang thing
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it's pretty much in the first two sentence
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it's pretty much in the first two sentence
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Even better than that, it's in the title!
Explain it to me like I'm a moron, I've tried to find out what the differences are between TMo and the others that prevents it from using this method and not tripping the counter?
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Explain it to me like I'm a moron, I've tried to find out what the differences are between TMo and the others that prevents it from using this method and not tripping the counter?
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No idea
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Explain it to me like I'm a moron, I've tried to find out what the differences are between TMo and the others that prevents it from using this method and not tripping the counter?
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I don't think there's anything preventing a T-Mo phone to be rooted the same way.. someone just has to use the linked instructions to create an image based off of a T-Mobile stock rom.
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I don't think there's anything preventing a T-Mo phone to be rooted the same way.. someone just has to use the linked instructions to create an image based off of a T-Mobile stock rom.
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Reading through this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 they explicitly say it won't work on the tmobile t999 phone.
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Explain it to me like I'm a moron, I've tried to find out what the differences are between TMo and the others that prevents it from using this method and not tripping the counter?
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even though all the Samsung Galaxy S3 are using Ice Cream Sandwich Android OS, on top of that, they are all using Samsung altered TouchWiz. The best example I can think of to this is Windows Blind on top of Windows OS.
After that, each needs slightly different software and even hardware due to difference in operation of between each cell company + technologies + what they want and don't want and etc. Basically, they are technically the same phone but they are all slightly different, and this slight difference what makes certain roms and apps work on XXXX carrier but not on YYYY carrier.
also International and Domestic version has a entirely different processor, which is why there is Cyanogenmod and other tweaks and the USA models don't
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Reading through this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 they explicitly say it won't work on the tmobile t999 phone.
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I couldn't seem to find it doing a search, could you link to that post please?
I thought that i was going to stay with my GS4 for awhile, since I decided that i didn't want to spend money every time a new phone came out. But out of curiousity, i chatted with Sprint to see how much credit they were giving for a GS4. They stated that they were only giving $135.00 credit trade in value on the GS4, but i was browsing Best Buy Mobile, and they gave me $310.00 for my GS4! So, out of pocket expense with upgrade was $40.00 + tax (roughly $25.00), came out to be $65.00 out of pocket expense...i couldn't say no and took the deal since i didn't want my trade in value to decrease later on.
But here I am, new phone (which i love - but if you have a Note 2, i am not sure the upgrade to the Note 3 is worth it) and i want to root & flash badly. Knox, however, is making me think twice about doing so. How many of you are rooting it anyways? I saw a root method that won't trigger the Knox flash counter, but flashing a rom would, which is the main reason i would want to root anyways.
I was running Beanstalk 4.3 on my GS4, and it was faster than my Note 3 (completely stock at the moment), and the battery life was pretty good, i could go a full day, with about 4 hours on screen time. I can only imagine the results would be better if i do the same for my Note 3.
So how many of you have taken the plunge and rooted + rom'd? Aside from void of the warranty, are their any other drawbacks from tampering with Knox?
I want to badly, but just wanted to see if it has adversely affected anyone who already has.
Thanks,
JD
Honestly I am not rooted (although every day it gets harder and harder not to) but not because of warentee but rather because of all the problems people are having. . From force closing to root disappearing for no reason. I don't feel we know enough about the ramifications to the inner workings of what Knox is doing.
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I thought that i was going to stay with my GS4 for awhile, since I decided that i didn't want to spend money every time a new phone came out. But out of curiousity, i chatted with Sprint to see how much credit they were giving for a GS4. They stated that they were only giving $135.00 credit trade in value on the GS4, but i was browsing Best Buy Mobile, and they gave me $310.00 for my GS4! So, out of pocket expense with upgrade was $40.00 + tax (roughly $25.00), came out to be $65.00 out of pocket expense...i couldn't say no and took the deal since i didn't want my trade in value to decrease later on.
But here I am, new phone (which i love - but if you have a Note 2, i am not sure the upgrade to the Note 3 is worth it) and i want to root & flash badly. Knox, however, is making me think twice about doing so. How many of you are rooting it anyways? I saw a root method that won't trigger the Knox flash counter, but flashing a rom would, which is the main reason i would want to root anyways.
I was running Beanstalk 4.3 on my GS4, and it was faster than my Note 3 (completely stock at the moment), and the battery life was pretty good, i could go a full day, with about 4 hours on screen time. I can only imagine the results would be better if i do the same for my Note 3.
So how many of you have taken the plunge and rooted + rom'd? Aside from void of the warranty, are their any other drawbacks from tampering with Knox?
I want to badly, but just wanted to see if it has adversely affected anyone who already has.
Thanks,
JD
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There is a method now to root without tripping KNOX, it involves flashing back to Stock MI3 firmware and something something KNOX binary counter gets reset to 0x0. Custom ROM will still trip the counter. Essentially you could run Stock with root access on MI3 and even flash the hotspot fix mod.
Don't root or modify your device if you even think twice about the warranty, you're taking a risk by flashing via ODIN and Recovery and you will be responsible for any potential damage to your phone, if you're within your 14 return period chances are they'll take it back no questions asked.
Root access, custom ROMs, themes, mods/fixes/improvements, battery and performance optimizations, debloated apps, free tethering... There are just so many reasons to root and not a lot of reasons not to.
I've removed all the KNOX files from my system, device still runs fine. The Knox counter was tripped as shows 0x1 but I don't care, what does that even do? KNOX is just a security system implemented for whatever reason, a minor annoyance that will soon have complete workarounds.
Just a warning though, some people do experience issues, from "force closing apps" to "soft-bricking" ... Just follow the directions listed on the OP of the developer thread exactly as they're listed and you should be okay.
Thanks for the info!!!
I've always rooted all my other phones, and i guess you're right!
Knox, being new is just a little intimidating. May I ask if you rooted via the method without tripping the counter? Also, did you flash a rom or did you debloat yourself?
Thanks for your time and advice
Kompster said:
There is a method now to root without tripping KNOX, it involves flashing back to Stock MI3 firmware and something something KNOX binary counter gets reset to 0x0. Custom ROM will still trip the counter. Essentially you could run Stock with root access on MI3 and even flash the hotspot fix mod.
Don't root or modify your device if you even think twice about the warranty, you're taking a risk by flashing via ODIN and Recovery and you will be responsible for any potential damage to your phone, if you're within your 14 return period chances are they'll take it back no questions asked.
Root access, custom ROMs, themes, mods/fixes/improvements, battery and performance optimizations, debloated apps, free tethering... There are just so many reasons to root and not a lot of reasons not to.
I've removed all the KNOX files from my system, device still runs fine. The Knox counter was tripped as shows 0x1 but I don't care, what does that even do? KNOX is just a security system implemented for whatever reason, a minor annoyance that will soon have complete workarounds.
Just a warning though, some people do experience issues, from "force closing apps" to "soft-bricking" ... Just follow the directions listed on the OP of the developer thread exactly as they're listed and you should be okay.
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jdizzle316 said:
Thanks for the info!!!
I've always rooted all my other phones, and i guess you're right!
Knox, being new is just a little intimidating. May I ask if you rooted via the method without tripping the counter? Also, did you flash a rom or did you debloat yourself?
Thanks for your time and advice
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I rooted and installed JellyBomb right away because performance>warranty to me. I have been having some of The connectivity issues others have mentioned, they are the same worth our without root. All in all, I, m glad I rooted.
Good info on the knox free root here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484095
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jdizzle316 said:
Thanks for the info!!!
I've always rooted all my other phones, and i guess you're right!
Knox, being new is just a little intimidating. May I ask if you rooted via the method without tripping the counter? Also, did you flash a rom or did you debloat yourself?
Thanks for your time and advice
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You're welcome.
I rooted with the CF-AutoRoot method that tripped the KNOX binary counter.
Initially I flashed freeza's Deodexed Stock ROM and debloated it myself.
I posted a thread in the "General" category called "Potentially" Safe to Freeze/Remove Apps (SM-N900P)
I was not quite satisfied with stock and wanted a bit more, backed up everything and flashed JellyBomb ROM. No regrets. This ROM is awesome and just keeps getting better.
Sent from my Rooted, TWRP'd & JellyBombed SM-N900P using XDA...
I waited all of a day to root and have had no issues other than a bluetooth problem which turned out to be a problem with my Alpine. Haven't looked back and am looking forward to some new ROMs.(at the very least a Sprint 1X 3G mod) I have a warranty through squaretrade so the factory one doesn't bother me.
did you go the route of not tripping the Knox counter, or the other method (CF)?
Thanks, I'm just trying to gather as much info as i can before i take the dive myself....not having root/custom rom is killin me!
appreciate the input, thank you
piaa_nissan said:
I waited all of a day to root and have had no issues other than a bluetooth problem which turned out to be a problem with my Alpine. Haven't looked back and am looking forward to some new ROMs.(at the very least a Sprint 1X 3G mod) I have a warranty through squaretrade so the factory one doesn't bother me.
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The only thing available when I did mine was CF. My counter is tripped. My theory is the Knox counter is more of a thing for a corporate IT department to verify security. I've only seen one foreign post where the person was supposedly told it would void the phone warranty. My Motorola X explicitly stated it will void the warranty when I unlocked the boot loader and I would think Samsung would do the same when put intov download mode. That's just my opinion though
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piaa_nissan said:
The only thing available when I did mine was CF. My counter is tripped. My theory is the Knox counter is more of a thing for a corporate IT department to verify security. I've only seen one foreign post where the person was supposedly told it would void the phone warranty. My Motorola X explicitly stated it will void the warranty when I unlocked the boot loader and I would think Samsung would do the same when put intov download mode. That's just my opinion though
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Have you had any issues. . I am not concerned about the warrantee but I am worried about all the issues people have had. . Losing root, selinux issues etc. . What has your experience been?
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As I said in my original post, no issues. YMMV
I'm rooted, running stock, loving the phone. My only issue was that I couldn't get 5 rows of icons on my home screens to maximize real estate... so I ventured for the first time into launchers, and I'm very happy with Nova right now.
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I'm rooted, running stock, loving the phone. My only issue was that I couldn't get 5 rows of icons on my home screens to maximize real estate... so I ventured for the first time into launchers, and I'm very happy with Nova right now.
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Nova and Apex are considered the best.
Hi all,
I couldn't find anything on Sprint/Asurion insurance that makes me comfortable tripping Knox. I'm clumsy and poor and need to be able to have the phone fixed for free. That being said, street much reading, I think my best course of action is:
- Factory reset
- I'm on OC5, so flash NH7 using Odin
- Factory reset
- Use towelroot
- Hope that Knox won't trip
- Enjoy TiBu and other root benefits
- In a year when I can afford paying the remainder due on this phone to get a new phone using Easy Pay, stop caring about Knox and install a custom recovery and all the ROMs
Is this technically/theoretically possible? Am I missing anything?
I heard towelroot steals IMEI and other personally identifying info. I also see that it requires "phone number and identity" when installing the apk. Is this necessary as part of the exploit to gain root? Does XDA endorse towelroot or support it as legitimate?
Thank you in advance!
Sprint doesn't really care about Knox, Samsung does.
Tripping it does not affect functionality of the phone and if anything, only inhibits your experience with the phone.
I tripped it an hour after I bought the phone and haven't looked back since. I also cracked my screen and had to make insurance claim...Sprint didn't say a word about it being tripped.
For add'l opinions, see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
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rpenrod23 said:
Sprint doesn't really care about Knox, Samsung does.
Tripping it does not affect functionality of the phone and if anything, only inhibits your experience with the phone.
I tripped it an hour after I bought the phone and haven't looked back since. I also cracked my screen and had to make insurance claim...Sprint didn't say a word about it being tripped.
For add'l opinions, see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk 2
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I saw that poll. Helped me decide that if my Knox is tripped during a root method that ISN'T supposed to trip I wouldn't cry over it. Still, I read that tripping Knox will prevent Knox app functionality and my company may use it, so I don't want that to be a problem either.
I'm still looking for verification that towelroot won't steal my phone info.
Psychotacon said:
Hi all,
I couldn't find anything on Sprint/Asurion insurance that makes me comfortable tripping Knox. I'm clumsy and poor and need to be able to have the phone fixed for free. That being said, street much reading, I think my best course of action is:
- Factory reset
- I'm on OC5, so flash NH7 using Odin
- Factory reset
- Use towelroot
- Hope that Knox won't trip
- Enjoy TiBu and other root benefits
- In a year when I can afford paying the remainder due on this phone to get a new phone using Easy Pay, stop caring about Knox and install a custom recovery and all the ROMs
Is this technically/theoretically possible? Am I missing anything?
I heard towelroot steals IMEI and other personally identifying info. I also see that it requires "phone number and identity" when installing the apk. Is this necessary as part of the exploit to gain root? Does XDA endorse towelroot or support it as legitimate?
Thank you in advance!
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Where do you "hear" these rumours? Links? First you said cf auto root was bad cause you read that somewhere, no link and now this. Knox doesn't matter at all if you're clumsy. One has nothing to do with the other. You break or lose your phone insurance isn't going to ask if you tripped Knox. If you download any apps at all then you should be reading what they have access to when installing. Lots of legit apps access your phone information. Pretty sure Knox is one of them. Fyi I'm on easy pay now and I'm not a millionaire and I don't care that I tripped Knox. Root and start living life to the fullest lol.