So i am running CM11, a friend used to be, and we used WhisperPush to send encrypted SMS. He got the M8, now is not running cyanogen mod, and therefore does not get the messages i send to him b/c he cannot receive WhisperPush messages. If I unregister my device from WhisperPush he can receive them. His old phone with CM also does not boot anymore.
There does not seem to be an option to delete his identity key from my phone. Anyone have any idea how I can do that?
Thanks in advance
crackmulah said:
So i am running CM11, a friend used to be, and we used WhisperPush to send encrypted SMS. He got the M8, now is not running cyanogen mod, and therefore does not get the messages i send to him b/c he cannot receive WhisperPush messages. If I unregister my device from WhisperPush he can receive them. His old phone with CM also does not boot anymore.
There does not seem to be an option to delete his identity key from my phone. Anyone have any idea how I can do that?
Thanks in advance
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I'm in the exact same situation as you. My friend had a GS3 with CM and we used WhisperPush together. Now he also got the M8. He's in the process of rooting and installing CM now, but I still have his old Identity Key in my phone and therefore he cannot receive my messages.
Did you ever figure anything out on this? Or does anyone else out there have any clue how to remove old Identity Keys?
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I'm in the exact same situation as you. My friend had a GS3 with CM and we used WhisperPush together. Now he also got the M8. He's in the process of rooting and installing CM now, but I still have his old Identity Key in my phone and therefore he cannot receive my messages.
Did you ever figure anything out on this? Or does anyone else out there have any clue how to remove old Identity Keys?
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sorry to hear that
i got no answers here or anywhere else. i seem to have gotten around the issue by turning off whisper push. i am now using paranoid android on my n5 (latest beta) and I do not think i have this issue, because thats basically the same as turning off whisper push. If you can deal without wisper push, thats the only solution i know of. i hope that helps.
the more i think about it, the less i think i need my texts encrypted anyway, so all good.
what do you think the advantage to having whisper push is?
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sorry to hear that
i got no answers here or anywhere else. i seem to have gotten around the issue by turning off whisper push. i am now using paranoid android on my n5 (latest beta) and I do not think i have this issue, because thats basically the same as turning off whisper push. If you can deal without wisper push, thats the only solution i know of. i hope that helps.
the more i think about it, the less i think i need my texts encrypted anyway, so all good.
what do you think the advantage to having whisper push is?
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The only advantage is encrypted texts. But if you don't have anything to hide, then at this point it's not worth all the hassle.
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The only advantage is encrypted texts. But if you don't have anything to hide, then at this point it's not worth all the hassle.
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so if i understand correctly, the idea is that not even the NSA is able to see the encrypted whisperpush texts? I certainly dont believe that, but thats fine.
is the idea that whisperpush encrypts a text on the phone, so it is unreadable when on verizon/tmobile/etc servers, and then decrypted when on the receivers phone? wouldnt it be possible for someone who saw these encrypted messages to decrypt them on their own using the whisperpush software (some 'hacking' required)?
im just trying to understand the service better. as i understand it it seems to be a novelty now for the heck of it and not actually useful. if you have something to hide encrypting the texts isnt actually going to hide the data, it seems to me.
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so if i understand correctly, the idea is that not even the NSA is able to see the encrypted whisperpush texts? I certainly dont believe that, but thats fine.
is the idea that whisperpush encrypts a text on the phone, so it is unreadable when on verizon/tmobile/etc servers, and then decrypted when on the receivers phone? wouldnt it be possible for someone who saw these encrypted messages to decrypt them on their own using the whisperpush software (some 'hacking' required)?
im just trying to understand the service better. as i understand it it seems to be a novelty now for the heck of it and not actually useful. if you have something to hide encrypting the texts isnt actually going to hide the data, it seems to me.
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Well, encryption can be weak or it can be strong. That's a gross over-simplification, but I'd have to type for hours and hours to explain what makes encryption strong. I will say briefly this though: the NSA actually has deals with some of the companies that invent encryption algorithms to give them a back door to decrypt anything they want as long as it's using a certain algorithm. So yes, never trust the NSA.
The basic idea is to keep the data encrypted as long as it passes through the carriers servers. I'm not sure if the encryption is done on your local device, or on the WhisperPush servers (presumably it would be on your local device), but either way your carrier would not be able to read your texts, ergo they could only give the NSA/FBI/CIA/etc... the encrypted text which would be useless (again, assuming the algorithm WhisperPush uses is safe from the NSA).
As far as someone or some company breaking or hacking the encrypted text, it depends on a few things. First and foremost: how strong is the encryption. Since WhisperPush seems to be for paranoid type individuals, I would assume it's decently strong. If your encryption is strong enough, it could take years to break. Second, how much time and power does the person/company have at their disposal. With enough dedication, any encryption can be broken. Say the encryption is only 128-bit and your attacker has access to a bank of CPUs. It could be broken in a matter of hours or days.
Plus, who is to say that WhisperPush doesn't just give up your encryption keys upon request of the NSA?
The bottom line is this: if you're actually trying to hide from the NSA or likewise, you need to take a few more steps then just turning on WhisperPush. Steps like creating your own private messaging app and communicating without electronics as much as possible.
As far as WhisperPush just being a novelty... yeah, could be. Maybe it's like Google Chrome. They really just started Chrome to get the other browser giants to make a better product. Maybe WhisperPush is trying to motivate others to make texting more secure. Or maybe they're the real deal.
You can never really trust anyone in the online world these days so who knows... as far as I know the NSA developed WhisperPush. The name sure fits in with the rest of their code named projects
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Well, encryption can be weak or it can be strong. That's a gross over-simplification, but I'd have to type for hours and hours to explain what makes encryption strong. I will say briefly this though: the NSA actually has deals with some of the companies that invent encryption algorithms to give them a back door to decrypt anything they want as long as it's using a certain algorithm. So yes, never trust the NSA.
The basic idea is to keep the data encrypted as long as it passes through the carriers servers. I'm not sure if the encryption is done on your local device, or on the WhisperPush servers (presumably it would be on your local device), but either way your carrier would not be able to read your texts, ergo they could only give the NSA/FBI/CIA/etc... the encrypted text which would be useless (again, assuming the algorithm WhisperPush uses is safe from the NSA).
As far as someone or some company breaking or hacking the encrypted text, it depends on a few things. First and foremost: how strong is the encryption. Since WhisperPush seems to be for paranoid type individuals, I would assume it's decently strong. If your encryption is strong enough, it could take years to break. Second, how much time and power does the person/company have at their disposal. With enough dedication, any encryption can be broken. Say the encryption is only 128-bit and your attacker has access to a bank of CPUs. It could be broken in a matter of hours or days.
Plus, who is to say that WhisperPush doesn't just give up your encryption keys upon request of the NSA?
The bottom line is this: if you're actually trying to hide from the NSA or likewise, you need to take a few more steps then just turning on WhisperPush. Steps like creating your own private messaging app and communicating without electronics as much as possible.
As far as WhisperPush just being a novelty... yeah, could be. Maybe it's like Google Chrome. They really just started Chrome to get the other browser giants to make a better product. Maybe WhisperPush is trying to motivate others to make texting more secure. Or maybe they're the real deal.
You can never really trust anyone in the online world these days so who knows... as far as I know the NSA developed WhisperPush. The name sure fits in with the rest of their code named projects
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you, my friend, are what makes xda great.
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you, my friend, are what makes xda great.
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Cheers mate :good:
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Well, encryption can be weak or it can be strong. That's a gross over-simplification, but I'd have to type for hours and hours to explain what makes encryption strong. I will say briefly this though: the NSA actually has deals with some of the companies that invent encryption algorithms to give them a back door to decrypt anything they want as long as it's using a certain algorithm. So yes, never trust the NSA.
The basic idea is to keep the data encrypted as long as it passes through the carriers servers. I'm not sure if the encryption is done on your local device, or on the WhisperPush servers (presumably it would be on your local device), but either way your carrier would not be able to read your texts, ergo they could only give the NSA/FBI/CIA/etc... the encrypted text which would be useless (again, assuming the algorithm WhisperPush uses is safe from the NSA).
As far as someone or some company breaking or hacking the encrypted text, it depends on a few things. First and foremost: how strong is the encryption. Since WhisperPush seems to be for paranoid type individuals, I would assume it's decently strong. If your encryption is strong enough, it could take years to break. Second, how much time and power does the person/company have at their disposal. With enough dedication, any encryption can be broken. Say the encryption is only 128-bit and your attacker has access to a bank of CPUs. It could be broken in a matter of hours or days.
Plus, who is to say that WhisperPush doesn't just give up your encryption keys upon request of the NSA?
The bottom line is this: if you're actually trying to hide from the NSA or likewise, you need to take a few more steps then just turning on WhisperPush. Steps like creating your own private messaging app and communicating without electronics as much as possible.
As far as WhisperPush just being a novelty... yeah, could be. Maybe it's like Google Chrome. They really just started Chrome to get the other browser giants to make a better product. Maybe WhisperPush is trying to motivate others to make texting more secure. Or maybe they're the real deal.
You can never really trust anyone in the online world these days so who knows... as far as I know the NSA developed WhisperPush. The name sure fits in with the rest of their code named projects
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Whisper/Signal supports perfect foward secrecy and future secrecy, which means that they don't have your private keys. Well, they could take over whisper and push out their own "special" update. Yet another of the many many reasons I leave auto-update off. I wish the default for turning on auto-update was OFF except the apps I choose [like bank apps], but oh well. I trust moxie marlinspike and so does bruce schneier. What more could the paranoids want?
I would like to know if Signal uses SMS for messaging or does it use the internet?
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I heard about Lookout for checking CIQ on phone and saw that they have a security app. Also saw something by NetQin. I used to use BitDefender on my pc but then it got buggy.
My first smartphone and I'm paranoid. So do most people use a security/anti-virus app on their phone? If so, which do you suggest?
I've had more than my fair share of smart phones. This is my 4th one this year. As for me, I've never used a virus scanner on my phone or any of my computers. I'm just smart and make sure I don't download things I don't know what they are.
I've been using the free version of Lookout for about 3 years through an OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid X2, and now my Rezound. I've never had any issues with it. It seems to work the way it's supposed to.
Not really necessary. But it's up to you really, personal preference in this matter.
Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
Heavily researched this the other day. Not sure if you're worried more about the malware side of life, or the potential of theft - but if you're looking to ID a perp for trying to gank your phone, nothing comes close to the feature set in Cerberus.
Android market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
Android Police review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...s-a-clear-winner-in-keeping-your-device-safe/
Hadn't even heard of it before last week, but after 10 minutes of messing w/ it, I was sold. Better than anything else in the market by far in terms of what it does & I can confirm everything is working on my Rezound. Also, it's only $3 and change. Can't beat that
Also, for reference, I previously used Prey, but I like this much better.
(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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Hm... how does it do that, in layman's terms?
I'm paranoid a bit since our phones are now pretty much like laptops. I have my laptop on lockdown though and this is my first smartphone so I want to be sure I'm not leaving a security hole open for some nefarious character to take advantage of.
Well, I know I already mentioned Lookout, but I'm going to mention them again. These guys seem to know what they're doing. I mean, as this article states, Google trusts them enough to tell them what to remove from the market, so I would assume that they're pretty legit. Again, I've never had an issue with anything, and I've been running Lookout for a while.
The new avast!, which bought and incorporated Theft Aware, seems like the best option on the market to me....It's what I use.
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(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Nice feature, I'm going to check it out just for that.
Check out Zoner
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I use lookout, been using it for over two years now on 4 android phones.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 for both personal and business use. I do not currently use any of the security features as I don't use it for anything other than text messaging and web access, so there is nothing particularly sensitive stored on the phone, SD card or SIM card. However this is going to be changing soon as I take on a new project for work.
I need to be confident that should my phone fall into the wrong hands, they would not be able to access anything on the device. I understand that the iPhone 3 and up have an AES key burned into silicon with a hardware encryption engine which obviously provides better protection than any software based solution ever could. However I have been unable to find a definitive answer on whether handsets from any other manufacturer have a similar implementation. I would rather not have to buy a new handset, much less an Apple one, but at the moment it looks like my best bet is to pick up a second hand iPhone 4S for about £150. Do I have any other options?
Any takers?
Encryption should be fine
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 for both personal and business use. I do not currently use any of the security features as I don't use it for anything other than text messaging and web access, so there is nothing particularly sensitive stored on the phone, SD card or SIM card. However this is going to be changing soon as I take on a new project for work.
I need to be confident that should my phone fall into the wrong hands, they would not be able to access anything on the device. I understand that the iPhone 3 and up have an AES key burned into silicon with a hardware encryption engine which obviously provides better protection than any software based solution ever could. However I have been unable to find a definitive answer on whether handsets from any other manufacturer have a similar implementation. I would rather not have to buy a new handset, much less an Apple one, but at the moment it looks like my best bet is to pick up a second hand iPhone 4S for about £150. Do I have any other options?
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Encrypting the device should be fine and I suggest you to use 8 digit password. It is very difficult to break encryption on Android. There are very few methods (couple of them) for cracking the encryption, however, all the tests are made on 4 digit passcode but not on 8 digit. It takes really a very long time to crack an 8 digit password. Otherwise your data is very secure and safe once the device is encrypted.
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Encrypting the device should be fine and I suggest you to use 8 digit password. It is very difficult to break encryption on Android. There are very few methods (couple of them) for cracking the encryption, however, all the tests are made on 4 digit passcode but not on 8 digit. It takes really a very long time to crack an 8 digit password. Otherwise your data is very secure and safe once the device is encrypted.
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Thnank you for your reply.
I am aware that brute-forcing AES is impractical. However brute-force is not the only method for attacking an encrypted device.
There is not much information available online but as far as I can tell, only iPhone's do not store the AES key in RAM. If the key is stored in RAM, then it is feasible to pull the power (battery) from the target device for a split second, dump RAM contents and so recover the key. If the key is burned into silicon and only accessible by the AES engine then this is not possible.
I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to me or if it affects everyone, so I thought I'd ask.
tl;dr: text messages don't persist on the phone, and in Google Messenger in particular, outgoing texts don't display as part of the conversation.
I use Google Messenger by default, and I noticed that none of the text messages I sent were appearing in the conversation history. Turns out, they weren't reaching the recipients either.
I switched to Google Hangouts, and all of the texts I received from (and sent to) other people before my upgrade were present, but any texts I received from others were gone.
I tried deleting and reinstalling Google Messenger, thinking maybe it was a version/cache thing, and again, any text I received before the upgrade was present, but none since the upgrade, including any I had received while using Google Hangouts.
Something definitely seems f%@#ed up here. Am I alone?
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I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to me or if it affects everyone, so I thought I'd ask.
tl;dr: text messages don't persist on the phone, and in Google Messenger in particular, outgoing texts don't display as part of the conversation.
I use Google Messenger by default, and I noticed that none of the text messages I sent were appearing in the conversation history. Turns out, they weren't reaching the recipients either.
I switched to Google Hangouts, and all of the texts I received from (and sent to) other people before my upgrade were present, but any texts I received from others were gone.
I tried deleting and reinstalling Google Messenger, thinking maybe it was a version/cache thing, and again, any text I received before the upgrade was present, but none since the upgrade, including any I had received while using Google Hangouts.
Something definitely seems f%@#ed up here. Am I alone?
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Nope, text not working here either, did much the same as you, cleared, deleted, still nothing.
1linuxfreak said:
Nope, text not working here either, did much the same as you, cleared, deleted, still nothing.
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Same here. Verizon's messaging app works though, and actually seems half decent.
Yep just got off phone with VZ support and that is the workaround (use Verizon Messages Plus) they are doling out as a fix to the problem, says tech will be getting in touch with Sony for fix and may be another small update for it.
Lots of reddit users are having the same issue. If you're up for it, it looks like a factory reset will fix the problem.
Had to do a frigging factory reset, but all works well now
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Lots of reddit users are having the same issue. If you're up for it, it looks like a factory reset will fix the problem.
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FDR sucks, wife will not be happy. I have a replacement phone to activate replacing the one I just updated, so will activate then do factory reset.
Bites.
Is anyone else having tissues access visual voicemail?
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I use Textra and that works great. Stock messaging app does not work unfortunately
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Is anyone else having tissues access visual voicemail?
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Only when they make me really sad [emoji22]
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Did a factory data reset on new phone after update, takes a long time to boot sets at check mark screen for several minutes, standard text does work now.
Factory reset does fix text
I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?
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I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?[/QUOTE
If it is a company supplied phone I would think that any modifications would be forbidden, any good IT department would be on top of any shananagans as such. I'm IT for the corporate office I work at (don't be impressed, I'm the office Alphageek and won the title by default.) and when corporate supplied the phones they maintained tight rein over the units. Now we are "bring your own device". As such if your phone is critical for your job and you bork it I would expect corporate to tell you to fix the problem ASAP even if it means buying another phone.
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That must have you hopping all over the place like a rabbit trying to fix everyone's issues. But I was speaking more about Verizon's consumer base relying upon their phones in general.
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...But I was speaking more about Verizon's consumer base relying upon their phones in general.
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My bad, I see your point now. For an official update this one has created a world of grief for many that installed it via the "official" route. Usually a factory reset is a last resort to many and apparently for this update it looks like a required step.
[EDIT] Just checked the official Verizon forums. People are struggling with the same problems that are being posted here. It looks like a couple have figured out a factory reset works and are trying to spread the word, there is very little Verizon help showing up.
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That must have you hopping all over the place like a rabbit trying to fix everyone's issues.
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A few years ago it did back when we were running a mix of name brand systems (Dell, Gateway and HP). I would say it occupied 30-50% of my time, since then we have standardized on Dells running Windows 7. That is a bulletproof combination in an office environment. I know everyone bad mouths Dells but since we with Dell/Win 7 my workload has dropped 90%.
1linuxfreak said:
FDR sucks, wife will not be happy. I have a replacement phone to activate replacing the one I just updated, so will activate then do factory reset.
Bites.
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I think the textra app also works if you would want to try that before resetting.
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I think the textra app also works if you would want to try that before resetting.
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Thanks, but already did the FDR, wasn't to bad, just time consuming. FDR does fix the problem though.
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I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?[/QUOTE
If it is a company supplied phone I would think that any modifications would be forbidden, any good IT department would be on top of any shananagans as such. I'm IT for the corporate office I work at (don't be impressed, I'm the office Alphageek and won the title by default.) and when corporate supplied the phones they maintained tight rein over the units. Now we are "bring your own device". As such if your phone is critical for your job and you bork it I would expect corporate to tell you to fix the problem ASAP even if it means buying another phone.
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Do you realize that the text issue is completely unrelated to any "modification". This phone was "borked" by a VZ-pushed OTA. I had to do a factory reset last night, lost my corporate e-mail set up through Touchdown. I also missed communications previously, while I was unaware of the texting issue. Those texts are just "gone" now. This is very poor form on the part of VZ, not even checking that texting will continue to work after users upgrade.
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Komet1 said:
Do you realize that the text issue is completely unrelated to any "modification". This phone was "borked" by a VZ-pushed OTA. I had to do a factory reset last night, lost my corporate e-mail set up through Touchdown. I also missed communications previously, while I was unaware of the texting issue. Those texts are just "gone" now. This is very poor form on the part of VZ, not even checking that texting will continue to work after users upgrade.
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I wasn't implying you goofed up your phone, just following up on AddictedtoGlass's comments, sorry if it came across that I was.
Yeah, this update does seem to be causing more grief than usual. That may be keeping with the comments I stumbled across in Verizon's forums claiming that the code sent to Verizon by Sony wasn't "up to snuff" in Verizon's opinion and that is why Verizon sit on the update so long. Looks like they should have sit on it a little bit longer. I'm on 5.0.2 and my phone is pretty stable so I'm content to stay there until this is all straightened out, if ever.
I have been trying to find more info on Verizon's community forums but they have managed to make their forums so hard to navigate now that finding particular threads is almost impossible. I guess that is one way of controlling the flood of complaints.
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Not to startle anyone, and this does not apply to everyone, so this is just an FYI.
If you even simply just open up and log into a Banking app on a rooted android device (ex. Chase, Amex, Capital one, Wells Fargo, etc) There is definitely a back-end flag.
I called Chase about an issue related to Text Notifications months ago, which I wasn't receiving every time my card was swiped, even though was previously working. The phone rep was talking out loud looking through the notes, and she blurted out "hmm the app is compromised on one of the devices, such as a root or jailbreak" She was older and had no clue what that meant, and I played dumb like I had no clue either.
She transferred me to a higher up, and the solution ended up just to completely remove my phone number from the site, and re add notifications (besides the point). So the jailbreak/root had nothing to do with it, but besides the point.
So bottom line, not sure if this could affect anyone or anything in the future, but more of a heads up. I wonder how this would hold up your account is truely compromised in some way shape or form, and they wouldn't want to reimburse you. Even though it would have nothing to do with the app
Yeah we've pretty much known about this for quite a long time but good to know some of the reps still don't know jack, lol.
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I own a pixel xl with the latest nougat android operating system. My question is , is fully encrypted? if falls in wrong hands, like business competitors, authorities, or any one who can have high tech computers and software they can unlock it? unlocking it I mean to find our my password and open it and then have access to all data and photos.
please help
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Hello,
I own a pixel xl with the latest nougat android operating system. My question is , is fully encrypted? if falls in wrong hands, like business competitors, authorities, or any one who can have high tech computers and software they can unlock it? unlocking it I mean to find our my password and open it and then have access to all data and photos.
please help
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If the phone is locked like with pin code and stuff like that, anyone can pass that by using a custom Recovery to delete some stuff from system or he can do it using adb.
If you mean an encrypted storage, then it would be hard, but like you said "high tech computers and softwares" they will possibly be able to do it.
And hackers these days don't need to have the phone to hack it, they are capable of hacking remotely!!
But don't worry, it's nothing to be worry about because the chance of this happening to you is too low, they probably target very high business men and political characters and people like that
anyway, i don't recommend keeping your sensitive information in the phone(bank accounts, IDs...), it's so dangerous like that.
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If the phone is locked like with pin code and stuff like that, anyone can pass that by using a custom Recovery to delete some stuff from system or he can do it using adb.
If you mean an encrypted storage, then it would be hard, but like you said "high tech computers and softwares" they will possibly be able to do it.
And hackers these days don't need to have the phone to hack it, they are capable of hacking remotely!!
But don't worry, it's nothing to be worry about because the chance of this happening to you is too low, they probably target very high business men and political characters and people like that
anyway, i don't recommend keeping your sensitive information in the phone(bank accounts, IDs...), it's so dangerous like that.
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I have bank accounts , and cards and customer file lists etc...and many other things personally. the phone have lock screen and if fully encrypted. I have a password over 10 characters. high tech software and computers what is it ? what kind of computer?
now about hackers. lets say a competitor wants to know what kind of customers/ I have on my phone. he can hack it remotely and see?
I have an app blocking all permissions from all installed apps. how he can hack it? also I dont download games, or files on the laptop or pirated movies etc
nikelecy said:
I have bank accounts , and cards and customer file lists etc...and many other things personally. the phone have lock screen and if fully encrypted. I have a password over 10 characters. high tech software and computers what is it ? what kind of computer?
now about hackers. lets say a competitor wants to know what kind of customers/ I have on my phone. he can hack it remotely and see?
I have an app blocking all permissions from all installed apps. how he can hack it? also I dont download games, or files on the laptop or pirated movies etc
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About computers, i have no idea, but anyway, to hack remotely, it requires an infected file to get inside the phone, so you have to be safe, that infected file might simply capture the screen and show them what you're typing in the password field.
BUT as long as you don't download anything from anywhere you're safe.
Apps and games should be trusted and only be downloaded from play store.
If you're using a laptop, you should switch to Linux OS immediately, it's much much safer than Windows, especially these days ransom-ware's hackers encrypted many PCs and asked for money to get the encryption code.
Happened to people i know, but never happened to someone with Linux operating system.
MigoMujahid said:
About computers, i have no idea, but anyway, to hack remotely, it requires an infected file to get inside the phone, so you have to be safe, that infected file might simply capture the screen and show them what you're typing in the password field.
BUT as long as you don't download anything from anywhere you're safe.
Apps and games should be trusted and only be downloaded from play store.
If you're using a laptop, you should switch to Linux OS immediately, it's much much safer than Windows, especially these days ransom-ware's hackers encrypted many PCs and asked for money to get the encryption code.
Happened to people i know, but never happened to someone with Linux operating system.
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a person who hack phones told me that most android phones can be hacked easy and open them without erase the data. he told me that the icloud is impossible.
i will take the pixel to see if he can hack it. which I doubt.
one more question, if I buy a cheaper version phone and update to android nougat will be the same safe like pixel xl or not?
my computer is mac. i was sondering to switch to chromebook to tell you honest but I must confirm if can be hacked or not the chromebook
nikelecy said:
my computer is mac. i was sondering to switch to chromebook to tell you honest but I must confirm if can be hacked or not the chromebook
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MAC is great as well.
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.
MigoMujahid said:
MAC is great as well.
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.
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ok, buy you didn't answer me about the cheaper option of the android phone. lets say I want to give a phone to one of my manager with credit card info, clients etc, and doesnt have the preinstalled android nougat on it. this will be the same safe like the pixel? because to this employee I don't want to buy him pixel to handle the works tasks because i did it before with an iphone and she lost it.
nikelecy said:
ok, buy you didn't answer me about the cheaper option of the android phone. lets say I want to give a phone to one of my manager with credit card info, clients etc, and doesnt have the preinstalled android nougat on it. this will be the same safe like the pixel? because to this employee I don't want to buy him pixel to handle the works tasks because i did it before with an iphone and she lost it.
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No I did answer ?
About the Nogut upgrade, I'm not sure that is only about the OS, native OS might be less secure than the company's OS, even if both OSs are Nogut, the Company add modifications and security to its OS that make it more secure.
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