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Hi all,
I expect to receive my new SGSII in the next few days, but want to make sure that I have a full backup concept in place, so that I can always get back to a state that I want.
At the moment I am not too concerned with custom ROMs, just the abaility to Backup the state of my own device, and then bviously be able to restore it later.
My current intention is the following,
1) Get SGSII
2) Perform root as per thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334&page=1' by Chainfire.
3) Then install 'Titanium Backup Root' (To be able to backup application settings, and freexe apps where necessary)
4) Install ROM Manager from ClockWorkMOD.
5) Flash ClockWorkMOD Recovery(requires Custom Recovery image to have been developed by ClockWorkMOD devs).
6) From Custom Recovery select Nandroid and created backup.
7) Then if needed repeat step 5 then perform Nandroid Restore.
My concern is regarding Step 5. As I read it someone needs to have written a custom recovery image for SGSII for this step to be possible. Does anyone know if a custom recovery image exists in ClockWorkMOD for SGSII? Or whether one is likely to come soon?
Secondly, is a better option to use SPRecovery and Nandroid backup\restore, or does this have the same Custom recovery image problem?
p.s. Does ClockWorkMOD Custom Recovery image replace the standard recovery image, or is it possible to backup this up somehow, so that I can always get back to the factory default.
Thanks
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Clockworkmod will come soon. But the kernel devs need the full kernel sources, which have not yet been released. Once they are out work on adding clockworkmod will begin. I would say 2-3 Weeks max before clockworkmod.
My concern is regarding Step 5. As I read it someone needs to have written a custom recovery image for SGSII for this step to be possible. Does anyone know if a custom recovery image exists in ClockWorkMOD for SGSII? Or whether one is likely to come soon?
Secondly, is a better option to use SPRecovery and Nandroid backup\restore, or does this have the same Custom recovery image problem?
p.s. Does ClockWorkMOD Custom Recovery image replace the standard recovery image, or is it possible to backup this up somehow, so that I can always get back to the factory default.
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Unlike what some people say, you don't actually need kernel source to make a kernel with CWM. It is by no means easy, and not always possible to do, but usually it's possible (the SGS2 kernels are weird, though).
There is no kernel with CWM yet. But I expect it won't take long. I'll probably get started on one as soon as I have an SGS2 myself (3 more weeks from now at least) - assuming I have time at that point. I won't even try before I have the device myself, too much things need to be tweaked / adjusted / tested for CWM.
Any decent recovery needs a custom kernel, SPRecovery, CWM, something homegrown, it's all the same A recovery tool needs to be in the kernel's file system to work perfectly. It can be done outside of the kernel's file system, but it'd be less reliable.
I'm saying kernel here instead of recovery image, because on previous Galaxy devices they are the same thing, unlike some other brands of Android devices. I'm not sure if it is the same thing with the SGS2 (yet), but so far I assume so (I have no reason to believe otherwise so far). In this case, it is usually not possible to actually backup your original recovery image, because you need root for this. But to get root, you need to flash a custom kernel. Do you see the cyclic reference? Luckily, we have the flash binaries for a fair number of firmwares, so it's possible you will actually be able to download your original recovery image and/or kernel.
Thanks for the clear explanation Chainfire, and for all the'Root' work thus far
Thanks for the explanation Chainfire, but I have a question. Is it safe now to root it before having the CWM? I mean can we restore the phone if we do something wrong and the phone comes to brick? It's the first time I use Android so I'll have many questions
In such a case you download a full firmware and flash that ...
i was wondering how i can backup firmware before rooting but now it clear that i don't need to as one can download and flash the full original firmware. Thanks for the info chainfire.
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I'm saying kernel here instead of recovery image, because on previous Galaxy devices they are the same thing, unlike some other brands of Android devices. I'm not sure if it is the same thing with the SGS2 (yet), but so far I assume so (I have no reason to believe otherwise so far).
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Checking the .PIT file, RECOVERY is blank which 99.9% means that the kernel and recovery are the same thing.
Unlike the SGS1 though, FACTORYFS and DATA seem to be two seperate images, which seems strange, since in the SGS1 data.img was inside factoryfs.img and was copied across whenever /data was blank. This might/might not have implications for custom roms.
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
screamworks said:
SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
screamworks said:
CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
Gutana said:
Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
Gutana said:
Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
screamworks said:
You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most
samsung s3 gt i9300 16gb 4.1.2 xxemb2
i am going to follow this guide to root (the basic one u can find in stickies things )
Step 1. Download Odin3.07 from HERE
Step 2. Power off your Galaxy S3. Then hold down Volume Down, Center Home, and Power buttons together until you see the warning screen.
Step 3. Hit Volume Up button to enter Download mode and connect a microUSB cable from your Galaxy S3 to your computer.
Step 4. Next, download GalaxyS3RootNew.zip, unzip the files and run odin3.07.exe by double-clicking on the file.
Step 5. When ODIN program opens, you should find a highlighted yellow box with a random COM number. If you don’t see this, download and install Samsung USB drivers below:
SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones.exe
Step 6. DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE, hit “PDA” button and select the file CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4.tar.
Step 7. Hit “Start” button. This will install ClockworkMod Recovery on your Galaxy S3 i9300. If you get stuck on this step, just try a different USB port.
Step 8. Once ODIN is done flashing, you will see “PASS!” in green highlighted box.
Step 9. Your Galaxy S3 will reboot once into CWM Recovery and automatically install root and Superuser app.
Step 10. Once your phone reboots, you will find an app called “SuperSU”, this is your superuser app.
Step 11. Download and install Titanium Backup app from Play Store to verify you have root, a Superuser request window should pop up.
my questions are : do i need an external memoory card to root ( i have 3GB free space left)
whats the difference bitween CF-root and CF-autoroot ??
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Hey.
No, you don't need any external card to use root. About 10 MB on your internal card should be fine .
CF-AutoRoot isn't same as CF-Root. If you're not going to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc and you just want to have your stock rom rooted then CF-AutoRoot suits you best. However, if you want to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc in future then it's highly advised to use CF-Root which basicly roots your phone and installs custom recovery CWM 5.5 afaik.
If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so.
can u please give me the advantages of custom roms in breef , why would i need them for ? all what im thinking about right now is Adblocker and such things ..
and can i use CF root without installing a ROM for the moment ?? thx a lot
and i didnt understand a word in this paragraph
"If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so."
what is PhilzTouch ???
By the sound of things I would just root for now for the adblocking and then start reading like mad and getting familiar with all the terminology and methodology before going any further.....this is the bit so many people miss and hence end up with a very expensive paper weight and a lot of disappointment and heartache
Basicly "cooked" roms have newest firmware versions, many tweaks, optimization and many things which full stock roms are missing. I'm not going to list all these things, check yourself if you wish.
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There are two ways to "flash" software to your device. Using USB cable and computer (via Odin) or directly from recovery. To do so directly from recovery you need custom (non-stock) recovery which gives you an option to do so. CF-AutoRoot gives you root while CF-Root gives you root + old CWM 5.5 recovery (because CF isn't supporting this method anymore). So basicly if you want to have a great time with your device, flash different roms etc. then you can directly flash modern recovery through odin f.e. PhilZ Touch Recovery without needing to use CF-Root.
All i want now is to have a rooted device on stock .. then i will take my time and read if i wanna add ROM/kernel
what do u think i should do
CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
Just a note that you may want to use the thanks button....it's kind of traditional courtesy when asking for help and receiving it
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CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
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Actually i would suggest the op also get a cuatom recovery into his phone.
Cuz if he f*** up his phone real bad and doesnt have a pc with him (cuz otherwise you would have to use odin to flash, or odin mobile from phone but if ure phone doesnt work, u cant) he can still fix things thru recovery.
Other things recoveries are for is making NANDROID BACKUPS. basically an almost total backup of your phone data: it backups rom, kernel , apps and their data, modem, system cache a bunch of technical stuff.
It doesnt backup other files of course (such as music on ur phone or videos or documents) just what is necessary to make the phone run with ur apps.
The reason this backup is important is because if you f*** up your phone real bad (again, phone can be tricky to hande) you can just flash it clean (you internal phone storage, such as music or any folder which doesnt concern rom, or microsd stuff, wont be touched when you choose "factory reset" in custom recovery)
And restore from a backup when your phone was working. Then u reboot and voila, a trip back into the past!
Might i suggest you also backup the efs folder which is found in the root directory. Nandroids DO NOT cover that. And basically for an s3, if you've got root and internal components are not damaged, if youve got the efs you can fix anything....if ya dont - not so much.
Might suggest once more that IF YOU DONT CARE about all this 'faster roms' kernels and mumbo jumbo root stuff, you still flash a recovery: the most stable one is CWM (clockworkmod recovery). To get it just boot into ur rooted phone, install free app from store "rom manager" and install latest version of recovery. you can boot into phone recovery at ANY GIVEN TIME, just follow instructions u can find on google, pressing buttons at same time and ****.
If ure curious, other recoveries exist:
Clockworkmod touch(premium):it's basically cwm just that it's touch. If you want my point of view...having touch on recovery is stupid and useless...recoveries are for fixin or doing important stuff, you dont wanna mess everything up cuz u touched the screen for mistake. Much better to use buttons and be sure.
Twrp...whatever cant remember da name: same thing as cwm touch, only .......i dunno but cwm is better.
Philz Touch(now this is the real ****!):not stable as cwm. It's a mod of cwm with MANY added cool features such as aroma file browser within the rom and look changing and of course touch( all toucb/double tap touch/touch only for scrolling) but the BEST option is BACKUP COMPRESSION. This little guy made me earn 1gb of free-er space out of my nandroid backups i perform onto my microsd. I went fron 3.5gigs to 2.5gigs. Awesome! Plus you can skip md5 checksum...which is a safety thing of course...but it slows down the backup/restore process, for the most daring disabling it spares them some waiting (nandroids are faster than kies from the pc anyways, no more than 20mins guaranteed!).
If ure interested about kernels i suggest:
Siyah kernel (or syiah...never know which)
Perseus kernel.
They both are good and fast, syiah is more performance, but you can get just the same performance on perseus if you handle the tweaking well and yiu get more battery time.
If youre interested about roms:
Foxhound (most complete one for the s3 i believe, it's packing all you need, and of course it's faster than stock samsung rom)
Rootbox(light rom. Its got less features but still fully packed for speed)
Omega (never tried it. Still have to...but it looks like in this rom look-costumization of look is the easiest thing to do. But i believe foxhound to be fully customizable as well...)
others are also
Jellybam
ResurrectionRemix
Hope i helped you get some root **** together
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Totally agree, never had a problem with it
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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4.89.4 (14.03.2013)
- New Custom Install Zip mode: set a default folder to start with + browse backward up to the root
4.88.5
- toggle menus are now formatted to device screen width (right align menu option)
- add 30mn timezone offset
- merge CM 10.1 commit: Fix segfault with dead symlinks in char** gather_files()
- add extra check for carriage return for get_rom_name function: ensures windobe noobs do not get stuck
4.88.2
- fix: ors backup could overwrite an existing folder and end up with mixed old/new backup images
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Impossible, Phil would include it in his changelog . Also I know what you're talking about, it happens when there isn't a folder clockworkmod on /sdcard , sometimes you need to create it manualy but how often do you format /sdcard anyway? Recovery restores it after reboot anyway.
Also autoupdate from one point of view is a nice feature, I totally agree with that but on the other hand it would require many more things included in the recovery because itself it doesn't support many options, that's why it's called recovery, not a software . Personally I prefer having an option to choose, newer version isn't always better, usually yes, but not always . Also recovery just need to "work", flash roms, make backups and eventually some simple other tasks. I don't need anything else .
Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
georgeskhater said:
Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
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Root using auto root, then use mobile Odin to flash recovery.img
Or
Root with cf root then just flash Phil's with the cwm recovery that comes with cf root
georgeskhater said:
Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Doesnt really matter how u root as pong as u do. Once u do run rom manager and update clockworkmod (cuz if u rooted the otherway cwm is probab uoutdated).
If u chose philz just google philz and find the thread (gonna be first on google, if not google philz recovery)
Read the thread well and find i9300 version (best if u choose .zip version flashable with cwm, if not u gotta use tar.gz flashable thru odin) then put it on phone and in recovery flash dat pakage. Then reboot recovery and make sure u configure philz to your liking.
no philz is not included in rom manager.
Rom manager is a weird name, since it's only of use to update to the latest version of cwm, or install it if you still have stock. Thou it does have a list where u can download roms...i dont recommend it cuz it suks..much better for this is goo manager.
But i prefer googling the rom or recovery (if cwm, i would use the app of course) or whatever and downloaing it from source, much safer and has full instructions (needed for some stuff, for example if a rom needs latest gapps cuz not included, apps like rom manager would not tell ya).
Glad to help, if u wanna thank just hit the :thumbup: button...
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Yeah, I don't recommend tools like Rom Manager as well. It's not bad of course but some kind of useless, in my honest opinion at least.
P.S. Like I said if you're going to change rom then you don't need ANY CF-Root, just flash PhilZ (or clean CWM) through odin then flash any pre-rooted rom. CF-Root isn't required here, only if you're not going to change rom, then use cf-autoroot.
Hello,
I broke my SII screen, I can not unlock it or see anything anymore. Obvioulsly, I'd like to access to internal storage *but* I did not activate USB debugging, or install any custom rom.
I manage to got to the device with adb, but as the phone is not rooted, I did not manage to mount internal storage in order to pull files from my phone. I also try Kied but I need to unlock the phone to access files.
I search the web and xda but I did not found a working solution (maybe my keywords were wrong).
Does someone has a solution ? For instance, a way just to be root easily on the phone in order to mount Internal storage ? Any other id ?
Thank you very much in advance. Doms.
PS: I do not want to change the screen as the price for the screen is too high. I do not have access to another SII phone in order to plug its screen on my mother board.
Flash a custom kernel/root the phone/get CWM, then find someone who uses the version of CWM that comes with that kernel to walk you through doing a nandroid backup (how many button presses to get through menus, etc) ?
MistahBungle said:
Flash a custom kernel/root the phone/get CWM, then find someone who uses the version of CWM that comes with that kernel to walk you through doing a nandroid backup (how many button presses to get through menus, etc) ?
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Thank you for your answer. I'd like to install CWM but is it possible without putting the phone in debug mode ? How can I put the file on the phone as I can not mount storage under adb ?
Thenk you for your help.
Doms.
You can flash a custom kernel via Odin (like Siyah) in download mode, the file you're flashing is on your PC, not on the phone, and this will root your phone and install CWM at the same time. All you need to know beforehand is what Android version you currently have on the phone so you choose the right build to flash, otherwise you'll end up with bootloop.
Search for the Siyah threads on here & read to work out which build you need to flash.
MistahBungle said:
You can flash a custom kernel via Odin (like Siyah) in download mode, the file you're flashing is on your PC, not on the phone, and this will root your phone and install CWM at the same time. All you need to know beforehand is what Android version you currently have on the phone so you choose the right build to flash, otherwise you'll end up with bootloop.
Search for the Siyah threads on here & read to work out which build you need to flash.
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Thank you again. Will try to get in download mode (more difficult than recovery as I need to validate at some moment without screen, adb do no want to do it as the phone is not rooted).
One last question: will it erase the internal storage or not?
Best regards. Doms.
If you have problems getting into DL mode, order a jig, or try the thread in General section where people have offered to lend their jigs to people nearby; might be someone near you who has one (not sure if the thread is still updated, but worth a look).
No, flashing a custom kernel will only do exactly that, replace your stock kernel with the custom kernel & your stock recovery with CWM, nothing else is touched.
Edit - The end result of this will be a nandroid backup, and you'll still have to get your data out of that. The easiest possible way will be to find someone else with an S2, restore your backup to their phone, get your data, and then have that person restore their setup. You can pull data from a nandroid (with just a PC), but it can be a bit fiddly if you've never done it before. We'll cross that bridge once you actually have a backup though.
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If you have problems getting into DL mode, order a jig, or try the thread in General section where people have offered to lend their jigs to people nearby; might be someone near you who has one (not sure if the thread is still updated, but worth a look).
No, flashing a custom kernel will only do exactly that, replace your stock kernel with the custom kernel & your stock recovery with CWM, nothing else is touched.
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Thank you for all. I just DL the kernel, will try this evening.
Doms.
You're welcome Good luck, post here when you've flashed it/if you have problems.
Hello,
Just to thank you again. I just have time to try it and it works fine ! Get and remove my 2 Gb of photo from my old phone.
Best regards. Doms.
No worries. Nice work, glad you got your data
Ok...so flashing and rooting is not new to me. However I may have found myself in a pickle. I have an S3 that I gave to my wife. She did not like the CM nightly that I had on it. So I downloaded the original stock rom that came with it and flashed it with odin. Everything seemed fine, but on reboot, it loops. Can't get into recovery or download mode. Any Ideas. And yes....I have searched and thus far, I have found nothing that matches my scenario. I was reading somewhere where there was a sticky in the general forum about this stuff, but did not see anything.
Could use some help. I don't mind buying the wife a new phone....may do that anyway. But I have one more daughter that I could give this to if I could get it fixed.
Peace
When you first flashed it with oden, did you flash an insecure kernel (flash recovery)?
If so, do so, then enter recovery and select factory reset & cache clean, so it may boot.
It generally happens when data is left over from a different/incompatible kernel.
http://true-android.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/install-clockworkmod-recovery-6044-on.html
The first time was with CM and everything was fine. I used it for around a year with CM. I did a few updates from them. Then when i used odin to flash back to original I did NOT flash a kernel separately, if that is what you are asking. The kernel came with the rom. Perhaps I don't follow. At any rate I can't do anything atm because I can't get into recovery or download modes.
augustorm said:
The first time was with CM and everything was fine. I used it for around a year with CM. I did a few updates from them. Then when i used odin to flash back to original I did NOT flash a kernel separately, if that is what you are asking. The kernel came with the rom. Perhaps I don't follow. At any rate I can't do anything atm because I can't get into recovery or download modes.
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To clarify, cleaning (factory reset & cache) is for the kernel, all roms for this model come with a kernel. But they are different. A CM kernel for 4.4 is not going to downgrade well to a stock 4.3 (example version) kernel, without doing this. The boot loop is a pretty common result of not doing this, happened many times when upgrading (depending on how extensive the update).
So how do I get into tje phone without being able to go into recovery or download modes?
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