Hi, is anybody using wireless keyboard on nst? Wired one works fine for me. But when I'm connecting wi-fi mouse, it doesn't seem to work correctly, there is no control over the pointer. I am asking because that could give me bigger choice of keyboards, and maybe also would help to reduce the battery drain. Thanks
Mouses are not currently supported correctly.
Movement gets translated into KEYCODE_DPAD KeyEvents.
thank you... So does that mean that wi-fi keyboard should work normally?... Sorry, I just don't have any to check myself. I don't wanna buy before someone will tell that it is possible. thanks
Well, there's wireless, Bluetooth and WiFi, all very different.
You could use a regular wireless keyboard with a USB dongle on the Nook side.
That will work fine as to the Nook it looks exactly like a wired keyboard.
USB mode as it is now uses a lot of current.
You time between charging will drop to once a day.
Bluetooth would have been a good one, if only B&N had spent the extra $0.50 for the WiFi module with Bluetooth.
Bluetooth on a USB dongle would have all the drawbacks of the above wireless keyboard but would also require a driver.
Keyboard over WiFi using a PC or another Android device would work.
You'd just need software on both ends.
Many keyboards that say "WiFi" are simply wireless keyboards that use the ISM spectrum the same as WiFi does.
The easy way to check is if the package includes a USB dongle.
Thanks for very detailed answer. Yes, I was thinking only about keyboard with wi-fi dongle. I've already noticed that unfortunately bluetooth will not work. There is a rather small range of portable USB keyboards that are specially dedicated to android devices. I was looking for one with a stand for comfortable typing anywhere I will be... a train, park bench etc.... Or well, you can find many usb keyboards with stands on ebay for example , but they all looks almost the same just with different logos, cheap, poor quality ones. Market is concentrated on bluetooth keyboards, then a lot of them are quite decent. So I'm just going to find a good usb compact keyboard, and then mount some kind of stand to it myself. Anyway, that is not very important for others, this post might be already to long.
ok, my question is: will it help to reduce battery usage in usb host mode, if I'll use keyboard powered by batteries?
Excuse my English. Thanks
09mysh said:
ok, my question is: will it help to reduce battery usage in usb host mode, if I'll use keyboard powered by batteries?
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A good question. And I have a related one - won't using a USB dongle and wireless keyboard take a good bit less current than a plain USB keyboard, because the port isn't supplying power to the keyboard itself? I know to expect things like "It takes more battery life from the WiFi than the current" but I'd just like to know exactly.
Renate NST said:
Mouses…
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*Mice
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Sorry to bump this old thread (and hope someone might still read this).
I was wondering about Renate's bluetooth suggestion above. I realise it would still not be ideal, but I've got a pretty good bluetooth keyboard for my other android devices and it would be great if I could try it with my nook as well (in particular I'd also be curious to test NOOK!E's question about power demand).
I'm running pinguy1982's tweaked ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2651053) and have been able to connect a micro-USB keyboard (the cheap ones built-in in some cases) using Renate's USBmode app. Now I was wondering if/how I would be able to use a USB bluetooth dongle to connect my bluetooth keyboard. Using the USB app, it seems to be recognised - it says something about a wireless device under View USB when I connect the bluetooth dongle. Exact output is:
1d6b:0002:01 MUSB HDRC host driver
0a12:0001:01 CSR8510 A10
#1 - e0:01:01 Wireless
#2 - e0:01:01 Wireless
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I don't know how to proceed from here though, as there's obviously no menu point for pairing a bluetooth device. I've had a look around for standalone apps for this, but not successful so far (devices that have bluetooth usually have a regular menu for that of course).
Any help about how to proceed would be much appreciated!
PS:
Just found BlueInput, but it just tells me that Bluetooth is not available. I guess that means something else is missing (if this is at all feasible to work).
Oops, sorry, I didn't see this.
The Nook has remnants in the build for Bluetooth support.
That's mostly in permissions and groups.
The WiFi adapter module on the circuit board does not support Bluetooth.
For an extra $0.25 they could have speced the version of the module that supported it.
I guess that it's not a priority for B&N, even the new Nook Glow Plus has the same problem.
Your Bluetooth dongle gets enumerated on the USB host, but there are no drivers to handle it.
This is indicated by the lack of black dots to the right.
A wired keyboard would show you dots.
Renate NST said:
Oops, sorry, I didn't see this.
The Nook has remnants in the build for Bluetooth support.
That's mostly in permissions and groups.
The WiFi adapter module on the circuit board does not support Bluetooth.
For an extra $0.25 they could have speced the version of the module that supported it.
I guess that it's not a priority for B&N, even the new Nook Glow Plus has the same problem.
Your Bluetooth dongle gets enumerated on the USB host, but there are no drivers to handle it.
This is indicated by the lack of black dots to the right.
A wired keyboard would show you dots.
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Thanks for your reply! So I guess there's no hope to get this to work (except for possibly somehow adding drivers, which I'm afraid is probably beyond my capabilities)...
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I want to start this thread and have everyone submit information for peripherals that work on the Athena but are made for PC's. We can even add devices which we know do not work. I've already spent a few dollars testing out several Bluetooth mice and I wouldn't want anyone else wasting money, etc. For devices that aren't compatible I would recommend more than one person test in case it was improperly installed/configured/etc.
What do you guys think of this?
To contribute, test and let us know what works and doesn't.
Also, please provide an outline of the specs like with the items listed below.
BlueTooth Peripherals
AnyCom BTM-100 (recommended by ltxda)
- Bluetooth 1.1
- On/Off switch
- Work Time = Up to 20 Hours
- Stand by Time = Up to 2000 Hours
- Resolution 800 DPI Optical
- Profile is HID with boot support
- Powered by 2x AAA Ni-Mh batteries and rechargeable with USB adapter (included)
- Radio Class 2
- Chipset CSR BC01
- Dimensions (H x W x T), 28.5 x 48 x 100.5 mm...or in inches 1.12 x 1.88 x 3.397.
- Weight 48 grams excluding batteries
Logitech v270 (recommended by Wiz here)
- On/Off switch
- 1000 DPI Optical
- Powered by 2x AA batteries
- Power Saving Mode
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse (recommended by bilalperwaiz here)
- Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
- HID 1.0
- 800dpi Resolution
- Range: 10 Meters
- Portable Compact Size
- Rubber Coating
- Charging Cable
- Light Weight only 72gms weight
- 2x AAA Rechargeable Batteries
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Wired Peripherals
KeySonic 2.4Ghz Wireless Compact Keyboard with Integrated TouchPad (recommended by Pantaloonie here)
...I set this under wired peripherals because you need the 4-in-1 cable for it to work via USB. If it's BlueTooth then let me know and I'll update the post accordingly. Otherwise it's staying here.
- Manufacturer #: KB-ACK-540RF
- Wireless mini-keyboard with built-in touchpad and 2 mouse function keys
- Elegant aluminium finish
- Powerful and reliable radio-frequency transmission at 2.4 GHz
- Full functionality of a standard layout keyboard including built- in numeric keypad and 12 function keys
- Quiet keyboard with tactile feedback
- Simply USB Plug & Play - no driver required
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Logitech V270 BT Mouse battery life
For reference, I purchased the Logitech V270 BT mouse around april 15, and I have been using it for 50 business days straight (with average use) until now on it's first set of batteries without any visible signs of battery depletion (blinking led indicating an empty battery).
It supposedly has built-in battery saving features, and honestly, I don't see how it would last this long without those features.
Im still waiting on my usb host cable so i cant add anything as yet - sorry.
I would very much like to know if anyone has tried out some powered/unpowered hard drives for compatibility. I have strong suspicions that wm6 will have a lot more usb host functionality and that devices which didnt work under wm5 will now be properly recognised.
leoni1980 said:
Im still waiting on my usb host cable so i cant add anything as yet - sorry.
I would very much like to know if anyone has tried out some powered/unpowered hard drives for compatibility. I have strong suspicions that wm6 will have a lot more usb host functionality and that devices which didnt work under wm5 will now be properly recognised.
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I remember seeing something about this within the forum somewhere. See if you can search and come up with something. People were trying HD's and USB drives via the USB connection.
Wiz said:
For reference, I purchased the Logitech V270 BT mouse around april 15, and I have been using it for 50 business days straight (with average use) until now on it's first set of batteries without any visible signs of battery depletion (blinking led indicating an empty battery).
It supposedly has built-in battery saving features, and honestly, I don't see how it would last this long without those features.
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Can you post some of the specifications like I did for the mouse I recommended so I can edit my post and add more info for others?
I think I may go out and buy the mouse because of the battery life you reported. I'm still testing the one I have in regards to battery life.
For reference the KEYSONIC keyboard is NOT wired! Its wireless!
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For reference the KEYSONIC keyboard is NOT wired! Its wireless!
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Do you need the 4-in-1 cable to use it? Or is it BlueTooth?
It does require the 4 in 1 cable to plug the usb receiver into (or the dock), so I guess you could call it a wired device.
ltxda said:
I want to start this thread and have everyone submit information for peripherals that work on the Athena but are made for PC's. We can even add devices which we know do not work. I've already spent a few dollars testing out several Bluetooth mice and I wouldn't want anyone else wasting money, etc. For devices that aren't compatible I would recommend more than one person test in case it was improperly installed/configured/etc.
What do you guys think of this?
BlueTooth Peripherals
AnyCom BTM-100 (recommended by ltxda)
- Bluetooth 1.1
- On/Off switch
- Work Time = Up to 20 Hours
- Stand by Time = Up to 2000 Hours
- Resolution 800 DPI Optical
- Profile is HID with boot support
- Powered by 2x AAA Ni-Mh batteries and rechargeable with USB adapter (included)
- Radio Class 2
- Chipset CSR BC01
- Dimensions (H x W x T), 28.5 x 48 x 100.5 mm...or in inches 1.12 x 1.88 x 3.397.
- Weight 48 grams excluding batteries
Logitech v270 (recommended by Wiz here)
- On/Off switch
- 1000 DPI Optical
- Powered by 2x AA batteries
- Power Saving Mode
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KeySonic 2.4Ghz Wireless Compact Keyboard with Integrated TouchPad (recommended by Pantaloonie here)
...I set this under wired peripherals because you need the 4-in-1 cable for it to work via USB. If it's BlueTooth then let me know and I'll update the post accordingly. Otherwise it's staying here.
- Manufacturer #: KB-ACK-540RF
- Wireless mini-keyboard with built-in touchpad and 2 mouse function keys
- Elegant aluminium finish
- Powerful and reliable radio-frequency transmission at 2.4 GHz
- Full functionality of a standard layout keyboard including built- in numeric keypad and 12 function keys
- Quiet keyboard with tactile feedback
- Simply USB Plug & Play - no driver required
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hey dude..JUST TO CONFIRM...MY BT MOUSE... MSI BlueMouse BM-100 izz working with my Athena now... so ...just add to that...THIS IZZ CONFIRMED BY ME!
bilalperwaiz said:
hey dude..JUST TO CONFIRM...MY BT MOUSE... MSI BlueMouse BM-100 izz working with my Athena now... so ...just add to that...THIS IZZ CONFIRMED BY ME!
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Can you give me a little info like in the original post please? You still there?
Asus Rechargaeble BT Mouse that comes with some Asus laptop works a treat
I think it is a rebadged logitech
here it goes...
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Can you give me a little info like in the original post please? You still there?
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okay dude here...
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse
Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
HID 1.0
800dpi Resolution
Range: 10 Meters
Portable Compact Size
Rubber Coating
Charging Cable
Light Weight only 72gms weight
2* AAA Rechargeable Batteries
bilalperwaiz said:
okay dude here...
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse
Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
HID 1.0
800dpi Resolution
Range: 10 Meters
Portable Compact Size
Rubber Coating
Charging Cable
Light Weight only 72gms weight
2* AAA Rechargeable Batteries
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Thank you.
no problems
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Thank you.
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yea dude...although im also testing a few devices...and ill let you know about the compatibility....
Belkin Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Combo works!
Just tested The Belkin Wireless Desktop from my tower pc on an Ameo and it works superbly. Seemingly cursor support is embedded into WM6 as all I had to do was pair and I was away!
It works a treat: I'm sending this post using it now. It actually makes the Ameo really feel like an Ickle mini pc.
Hoping that USB devices run as smoothly as this as I wish to use Bluetooth Dun and a keyboard and mouse at the same time - doubt the bandwidth of BT would support 3 devices symultaneously, though I may give it a try tomorrow.
Just remembered - the Belkin wireless desktop's supplied bluetooth dongle is plug n play - when my 4-in-1 arrives I'll give it a test with the Ameo - if it works then it'll expand my bluetoothing potential.
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Just tested The Belkin Wireless Desktop from my tower pc on an Ameo and it works superbly. Seemingly cursor support is embedded into WM6 as all I had to do was pair and I was away!
It works a treat: I'm sending this post using it now. It actually makes the Ameo really feel like an Ickle mini pc.
Hoping that USB devices run as smoothly as this as I wish to use Bluetooth Dun and a keyboard and mouse at the same time - doubt the bandwidth of BT would support 3 devices symultaneously, though I may give it a try tomorrow.
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That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
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That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
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it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.
For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.
so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.
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That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
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it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.
For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.
so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-blueto...ryZ47779QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
lakeman said:
Asus Rechargaeble BT Mouse that comes with some Asus laptop works a treat
I think it is a rebadged logitech
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Sweet!
Can you check the model at the bottom of the mouse and provide some spec info so I can update the post?
I tried my usb 250 gig fat 32 drive, the Ameo eventually found it, and I could see the folders, "couldnt before" but still way to slow to access anything on it. its way quicker to just use it as a network drive.
Anybody any luck with a usb drive.
USB support and usb audio support were recently picked up by mainstream, so starting from nightly 135 you get all of the below (except for the webcam support). I am leaving the old information for history preservation purposes. The usb mode utility is replaced by Nook Tweaks
IMPORTANT! READ TO THE VERY END FIRST!
Ok, so I know some people want to try the usbhost mode and I am releasing this trial package to gather feedback and see how it works in the wild.
I am not responsible if you fry your nook (see below).
First, you need some hardware, namely microUSB to USB Female adapter. Something like this one. (There are cheaper ones on ebay, but delivery time is about 3 weeks, I got mine for $1.43).
Also an USB gender changer will work.
Then you need a kernel with usbhost enabled. I made a package that you can install onto emmc with CWM, or the same package could be installed on SD card if you use my installer. This package is only for CM7 users that already converted to .32 kernel. If you still run 2.6.29 kernel (ie CM7.0.3) - you need to upgrade to a fresh nightly like -87 or wait longer.
You can get the kernel here: http://nook.handhelds.ru/usbhost/update-CM7-green-usbhost-2-emmc.zip
As you probably know, the Nook Color comes a little bit crippled in a sense that id pin on the OTG controller is not connected and so we cannot rely on it to properly choose mode. Instead I wrote an app to achieve the switching.
The app is ugly as hell, sorry, it's my first attempt at writing an Android app, bear with me, it would become better (I accept free Android programming lessons too! ).
You can get the app here: http://nook.handhelds.ru/usbhost/NookUsbHostSwitcher.apk
The app requires root, so make sure to allow it once asked and make it to remember the setting.
Install the kernel, install the app.
Reboot into the new kernel.
Run the app and you'll see a big "ToggleButton". When it's in Off mode, that means your nook is in usb client mode.
When you press it for the first time it will change to On, that means usb host.
(you can connect your external accessory before or after you enable the host mode).
When you press it again, it will change to Off and switch back to the client mode.
I recommend that before switching the host mode off you first disconnect your accessory, otherwise the internal hub cannot switch off.
(note that in some configurations the host mode enabling did not work for me on the first try and I needed to turn it off and on several times before the device registered. I believe there is no such problem with this kernel, but keep in mind such a possibility)
Addition in v2:
A second button is now added that lets you to force "external" vbus source. When you make it to ON, the battery charger pump is opened and connected to vbus terminals. In this state it is safe to connect nook to a power source, usb host will work and the battery should be charging at the same time.
Even without external power if your battery has high enough voltage (usually when it's full for me), it still somewhat works.
Additionally if you try to enable HostMode and an external power source is connected already, the "external" power mode is enabled (not shown in the app, though). This is to avert a potential disaster from below and to save battery.
Now the important part: When the Nook is in host mode, it drives 5V vbus off the connector at all times. If you connect the nook to a PC in this state, the PC will try to drive it's own vbus. Last time I tried to do this, my usb port in the nook fried! You've been warned! But that was before I had the host mode working and it might have been caused by a number of other things I was doing at the time too. Anyway I am not very keen on repeating this experiment again. If you are curious and decide to try it anyway regardless of the warning, make a comment and tell me what happened
Supported devices (this is important, right?)
Note that only low power devices will work if you don't have an externally powered hub. Don't expect to be able to drive a cdrom or a hard drive out of just nook. 100mA is the current limit. (Current testing shows that if you use ISB hub, even unpowered, it hides this issue).
All keyboards should be supported. (the keymap in CM7 is a bit strange, though, you'll see it).
All mice should be supported too, though I have not tried.
I enabled Xbox and PS3 controllers support, but have not tried.
Usb camera support - I only enabled UVC-compliant cameras (Microsoft Live cameras are compliant for example, probably many others). You also need specially built nigthtly with videocam support (try Camera app).
USB storage - generic support enabled, so should work for you.
Serial port support - only generic support enabled (I guess GPS devices mostly work as serial ports)
USB audio support enabled - not sure if the Android has any idea how to support it.
The kernel is basically normal dalingrin's kernel with USB host support enabled and ipv6 disabled (to keep kernel size below 3M threshold).
Kernel source (for the curious and if you want to build your own kernel with some mode devices support): git://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel.git branch usbhost
Enjoy and share your experience.
Just ordered the adapter for this. Thanks so much for your efforts!
So if anything goes wrong, we can revert by just flashing Dalingrin's kernel again, right?
Going to order an adapter now
Quick (and possibly stupid) question: Would gender changer plugs work in combination with a regular micro USB->USB cable?
this is incredible, thanks for all your hard work !!!
Awesome news
Thanks for all your work on this. It just amazes me how much talent is here on XDA.
It also amazes me that Android tablets/phones struggle with something a 10+ year old Windows 98SE laptop can do with ease.
Ordered my cable and can't wait to try transferring pictures from my camera to the Nook!
Has anyone seen a netbook-style keyboard/case combo that would work with the nook? (Bluetooth and/or USB)
Great work man, can't wait to try this out!!
Just built cm7 from source as of 6AM and flashed your kernel, turned usb host on and attached my usb gender changer to my phone's micro usb cord and plugged in a mass storage device. dmesg in Terminal Emulator showed the device properly but apparently android has no idea what to do with it, the light didn't even come on. Encouraged by this minor sign of life, I plugged in a keyboard and it works (though of course the android keymap is close to full retard).
Good job! I think nullghost's idea of adding this to the CM7 pulldown menu is a good idea. Maybe also the power control?
You will need to mount the USB storage yourself.
Glad I though ahead and got an adapter
Working well so far. Will try more accessories at school!
Any advice on what adapter to buy? I was looking at this one:
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Micro-Ada...YMU6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306940268&sr=8-1
but not sure if it is what we are looking for since one review said it does not work for USB OTG.
Actually, thinking about it, is the USB host mode that is enabled here, different from the USB OTG that i am thinking of?
And since i dont mind being the first to ask a dumb question..
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You will need to mount the USB storage yourself.
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Would this be something done in the terminal, or through the settings UI (aka, it will show up on the same place that the SD card shows up)?
Using my mouse with my Nook at the moment
I went out and bought a gender changer, which seems to work. Thank you a LOT!
No luck with my Xbox 360 controller. It lights up and then keeps on blinking. I tried to assign hardware keys in FPse but it didn't respond to any keypresses.
Also, my Nook froze when plugging my mouse back in.
Dangit! How am I suppose to get any work done when you release something like this. Gonna have to run out and get a gender changer during lunch so I can play around with this!
Thank you verygreen!
-Racks
Yep, keyboard and mouse work!
THIS IS AWESOME!
holo and vg, you guys rock!
Youtube video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxuhCS50-e0
I know...it sucks and it's rotated. I'll get a better one up.
ace7196 said:
Yep, keyboard and mouse work!
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Both at the same time? Using a hub?
Sorry, haven't tried that yet. But in theory it should (with a powered hub).
ace7196 said:
Sorry, haven't tried that yet. But in theory it should (with a powered hub).
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Even unpowered hub should be fine. I use unpowered hub and it works with keyboard and mass storage.
Divine_Madcat said:
Any advice on what adapter to buy? I was looking at this one:
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Micro-Ada...YMU6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306940268&sr=8-1
but not sure if it is what we are looking for since one review said it does not work for USB OTG.
Actually, thinking about it, is the USB host mode that is enabled here, different from the USB OTG that i am thinking of?
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OTG cable is only needed when hardware is supporting OTG mode natively.
All it does is has an extra connected pin. Nook ignores this signal unfortunately.
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Would this be something done in the terminal, or through the settings UI (aka, it will show up on the same place that the SD card shows up)?
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Nook cannot have fully automatic otg mode where you just plug an accessory and it works, then unplug, lug a host and it works.
Instead you need to manually control the mode from the provided app.
This is so awesome, if the nook can support a usb Ethernet adapter i'd be in heaven, I wouldn't have to lug around my Sony UX. Who has the best development community in the world? Nook does!
verygreen said:
OTG cable is only needed when hardware is supporting OTG mode natively.
All it does is has an extra connected pin. Nook ignores this signal unfortunately.
Nook cannot have fully automatic otg mode where you just plug an accessory and it works, then unplug, lug a host and it works.
Instead you need to manually control the mode from the provided app.
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Thanks for the cable info - adapter is ordered.
As for the mass storage, i guess what i was asking in a round about way; what IS the proceedure to mount a USB flash stick (for instance) so that something like Root Explorer could see the files?
Personally, i am REALLY interested in this for my photography. I would love to be able to connect my nook in the field, and get a sneak peak at what my shots are looking like, without having to haul out a full on laptop. My camera connects as a mass storage device, so assuming that Android could read a mass storage volume, i would be in business.
I hate you guys! =( Always making me spend more money that I don't have! Now I need to go find a good solid case with a usb keyboard!
I have a HTC Evo 3D. I'm needing to connect a USB mouse and/or hub. The unusual part is that I will also like to be able to power the phone from an external source like a car cigarette lighter. I have Muscular Dystrophy with limited mobility and will be using a mouse to control the phone. My wheelchair has the ability to power additional devices through a cigarette lighter type jack.
Does this sound possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I know the latest tablets are getting external device driver capabilities, but I'm not sure about the 3D. The fact we can print from it is promising, maybe after Ice Cream Sandwich or a Honeycomb port?
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derkgates said:
I have a HTC Evo 3D. I'm needing to connect a USB mouse and/or hub. The unusual part is that I will also like to be able to power the phone from an external source like a car cigarette lighter. I have Muscular Dystrophy with limited mobility and will be using a mouse to control the phone. My wheelchair has the ability to power additional devices through a cigarette lighter type jack.
Does this sound possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello! First, I want to say that I am amazed at people like you. My sister-in-law works with an autistic teenager and the schoolwork he does via his iPod is amazing. I think that he can churn out more schoolwork than I did when I was his age....
Now, to answer your questions - yes, the EVO can be powered via a 12-volt cigarette-lighter jack, so that won't be a problem. On the other hand, the mouse will be. At the hardware level, the EVO is a USB device and it needs to be a USB host (like a laptop or desktop computer) to take input from a mouse. However, I think a simple USB cable hack might solve that issue. I'll see if I can turn up a web page or two about the hack.
Secondly, Android isn't set up to be 'driven' via a mouse, but I have heard that people have done it successfully.
The real unknown is if we can do all these things with the EVO 3D....
If anyone else would care to 'chime in' to fill in the details that I don't know, please do....
when/if this phone gets rooted and we get some cyanogenmod love, it can use mouse input over bluetooth same with keyboard input. im gonna be nice (for once) this is posted in the wrong section. this is the development section NOT Q&A. pm a mod to move to the correct location.
It makes sense for development if he's planning to do the cable hack and write a driver himself.
That said, i am not aware of any micro usb keyboards, and though there very well may be some, especially if you look up blackberry accessories. If that doesn't work, the usb to microusb cable job is straightforward, just lookup the pinouts and match up the internal cables.
As for power while it is plugged in, just use a splitter on your 9v source, and attach one to the keyboard usb power cables and one to the power pins on the hacked microusb plug.
After that, I don't know for the driver, and but as mentioned before cm7 does bluetooth keyboards (and mice?) - can we install drivers without root? How does that work?
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It makes sense for development if he's planning to do the cable hack and write a driver himself.
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The first post is a question, hence this belongs in Q&A whether he plans on developing something is irrelevant since he is not doing so now in the Op
You can pair a bluetooth keyboard and mouse with the stock 3vo. Power the device with a normal charger. Unfortunately the mouse is useless as there is no cursor. The keyboard is novel though. I used a Logitech MX5000 series.
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First, thanks to everyone for trying to help.
Let me explain how I use my PC at home. My wheelchair has a small LCD display for the current mode/status of the chair like power, speed mode, and tilt. Plus it has an infrared transmitter that can be used to operate typical home theater electronics. The chair also has mouse emulation. When in the mouse mode the joystick that usually moves the chair becomes the mouse. The movement is translated and sent out through the infrared transmitter to a USB infrared receiver. The infrared receiver is HID compliant so it works on about everything. I'm hoping to find a solution similar to this on the Evo 3D.
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First, thanks to everyone for trying to help.
Let me explain how I use my PC at home. My wheelchair has a small LCD display for the current mode/status of the chair like power, speed mode, and tilt. Plus it has an infrared transmitter that can be used to operate typical home theater electronics. The chair also has mouse emulation. When in the mouse mode the joystick that usually moves the chair becomes the mouse. The movement is translated and sent out through the infrared transmitter to a USB infrared receiver. The infrared receiver is HID compliant so it works on about everything. I'm hoping to find a solution similar to this on the Evo 3D.
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Maybe send an email to Logitech and see if they can help you... they have a mouse for Honeycomb and may be able to explain house to use the joystick on your wheelchair. Good luck and let us know how it works, could help a lot of people
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/tablet-mouse-android
ianoob said:
Maybe send an email to Logitech and see if they can help you... they have a mouse for Honeycomb and may be able to explain house to use the joystick on your wheelchair. Good luck and let us know how it works, could help a lot of people
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/tablet-mouse-android
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is the receiver that is HID compliant bluetooth capable? if so, you should be able to pair the phone to that receiver and have it working.
Maybe somebody could create an app that would use the front facing camera kinda like the xbox kinect?
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Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to move enough to make the gestures. It pretty much needs to be the joystick/infrared built-in to the chair. Thanks for the idea though.
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is the receiver that is HID compliant bluetooth capable? if so, you should be able to pair the phone to that receiver and have it working.
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it is PS2/USB. A couple of years ago I thought about trying a serial-to-Bluetooth adapter, but wasn't feeling too confident it would work so I shelved the idea. do any of you think that might be worth trying?
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it is PS2/USB. A couple of years ago I thought about trying a serial-to-Bluetooth adapter, but wasn't feeling too confident it would work so I shelved the idea. do any of you think that might be worth trying?
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i dont think it will be possible then unless you got a 3.1 honeycomb device as they have usb hosting abilities. maybe the manufacturer of this input device offers a bluetooth solution?
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i dont think it will be possible then unless you got a 3.1 honeycomb device as they have usb hosting abilities. maybe the manufacturer of this input device offers a bluetooth solution?
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The device I posted does have Bluetooth capabilties, quite a few mice do... the issue I see is that Gingerbread doesn't support the mouse (no pointer) or the driver. Need this bad boy s-off and a Honeycomb port... or somebody smarter than me
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Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to move enough to make the gestures. It pretty much needs to be the joystick/infrared built-in to the chair. Thanks for the idea though.
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I was wondering about possible eye tracking, didn't clarify sorry. I had a friend in grade school and high school with muscular distrophy. Nasty disease, watched him go from running to needing a rod in his spine to sit upright. I hope we can help you figure something out.
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The device I posted does have Bluetooth capabilties, quite a few mice do... the issue I see is that Gingerbread doesn't support the mouse (no pointer) or the driver. Need this bad boy s-off and a Honeycomb port... or somebody smarter than me
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if we get rooted and get cyanogenmod ported that rom fully supports HID
Got a quick question for those of you with the HD dock. Are you running dual USB devices for you mouse and keyboard, do wireless usb devices work for the dock sans drivers, or has anyone found a way to pair dual devices to have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard functional?
My dilemma is where I am planning on putting my dock, it's going to be really difficult to use wired devices because the dock is going to be located physically behind me. I need to find a way to go as wireless as possible so but at the store we were only able to pair up one bluetooth device at a time. Has anyone found a work around for that?
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Got a quick question for those of you with the HD dock. Are you running dual USB devices for you mouse and keyboard, do wireless usb devices work for the dock sans drivers, or has anyone found a way to pair dual devices to have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard functional?
My dilemma is where I am planning on putting my dock, it's going to be really difficult to use wired devices because the dock is going to be located physically behind me. I need to find a way to go as wireless as possible so but at the store we were only able to pair up one bluetooth device at a time. Has anyone found a work around for that?
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I've tried a couple of wireless keyboard/mouse combos plugged into the dock and neither worked. I'm currently using a powered usb hub plugged into the dock with a Logitec keyboard and mouse plugged into the hub. Works great.
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I've tried a couple of wireless keyboard/mouse combos plugged into the dock and neither worked. I'm currently using a powered usb hub plugged into the dock with a Logitec keyboard and mouse plugged into the hub. Works great.
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Damn... That's what I was afraid of. My issue is I'm placing the dock on my nightstand located next to my bed for charging purposes. What's throwing me off is in one of the videos demoing the dock it shows them using both a wireless keyboard and mouse. It's gotta be possible, but I have no clue how. At the store we couldn't pair up two seperate bluetooth devices at the same time.
May have found a solution to my problem. At a local Compusa I found a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad in one. I'll take it to work and test it out... If it works, I'll report back.
My Logitech Wireless Desktop (USB Unifying receiver) worked fine, out of the box - keyboard and mouse.
There shouldnt be any reason that your generic wireless device/receiver combos dont work since they're simply a transmitter/receiver pair, your problem is likely with the lack of adequate power supplied by the dock. Theres no way that power supply puts out enough to power the phone as well as the USB ports so thats probably why the powered USB hub mentioned above solves everything.
As a regular trackball user on desktops, I've been looking for a Bluetooth one to go with the Tablet S to give me a bit more precision for tasks like text editing. Unfortunately apart from one very hard to source and expensive Mac targeted device my search has been fruitless.
I finally bit the bullet and ordered a mouse and would just like to recommend Dell's mini 5 button Bluetooth travel mouse.
It's length is just under half the screen height of the Tablet and is black/silver, so slightly smaller than a regular mouse and matches the tablet well. Using 2 AA batteries it paired straight away and only requires about an inch of movement for the pointer to traverse the whole screen. It also wakes the tablet up on movement. Scroll wheel works but the browser back & forward and right mouse button don't. If anyone has any tips for an app that would allow for these buttons that would be great but otherwise picked up for less than £20 I'm a happy bunny.
Cool. The ones I have used require a USB plug in.
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Cool. The ones I have used require a USB plug in.
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Tthere are others without usb recievers but i read on another forum if u use it u cant use sony's bluetooth keyboard simultaneously is that true?
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Tthere are others without usb recievers but i read on another forum if u use it u cant use sony's bluetooth keyboard simultaneously is that true?
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Not sure I'm afraid, the on screen keyboard is good enough for my young slender fingers.
If it's a multiple bluetooth device issue I'll try it out with my PS3 controller tonight and see if both work together.
Here's the mouse anyway.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Blueto...8DRC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329987831&sr=8-1
Well there's no problems talking to 2 bluetooth devices at the same time. But can't vouch for a keyboard I'm afraid.