I'm waiting to pick up the M8, but one thing is driving me crazy. What the bleep is s-off. I understand that in order to flash a GPE rom, i have to disable it after i root. Thanks.
grunt0300 said:
I'm waiting to pick up the M8, but one thing is driving me crazy. What the bleep is s-off. I understand that in order to flash a GPE rom, i have to disable it after i root. Thanks.
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As another person not familiar with HTC android devices, I understand your confusion. However, before I answer, I'll mention that this thread belongs in the Q&A section - AND that the answer is easily found with google (in this case, a plain google search is better than searching XDA.)
Here's your answer: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+s-off&oq=what+is+s-off
(From what I've read, S-Off turns off HTC's security mechanism that overwrites any changes you make to protected partitions on each boot.)
Take care
Gary
grunt0300 said:
I'm waiting to pick up the M8, but one thing is driving me crazy. What the bleep is s-off. I understand that in order to flash a GPE rom, i have to disable it after i root. Thanks.
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Here is the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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You don't need s-off to flash a gpe rom, you need it to do a full conversion which really gives you no benefits. I would s-off if you can for other features, but converting your phone can give you ota updates, but usually the roms get the update same day or sooner.
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You don't need s-off to flash a gpe rom, you need it to do a full conversion which really gives you no benefits. I would s-off if you can for other features, but converting your phone can give you ota updates, but usually the roms get the update same day or sooner.
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Thanks. I had read that in order to convert the AT&T version to GPE, you needed to be S-OFF. Now i really can't wait to get this phone.
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How do I achieve s-off? Can I revese HTC unlock method? Is there a thread or answer available? I'm not a complete noob at rooting but got excited and didn't read thoroughly before committing to the HTC process. Started sifting through threads and haven't discovered an answer yet... Please help
I've been trying to sift through them as well just out of curiosity. Here is what I have gleaned from all of the threads on this subject:
1) Unless you previously had s-off through revolutionary, the HTC method will not give you or currently allow you to get s-off
2) Although the HTC method does unlock the boot loader, other things are still locked preventing you from flashing a custom recovery.
3) Currently there is no way to root or get super user access once you've applied the HTC method
4) Currently there is no way to undo the HTC method.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but that is my understanding as it is currently. That doesn't mean that a Dev won't figure out how to allow you to do those things in the next few days or weeks. You'll just have to keep checking.
Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
I would wait a week or so. Someone will probably figure it out.
Try this thread. Apparently this version of CWM recovery will work with the 1.50 hboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225812
I think if you search other threads you'll see that it only works if you have previously had s-off.
evoLMaverick said:
Thank you, maybe ill just "lose" my phone and get it replaced
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Wow...fraud...people like you are why we pay so damn much for insurance/phones.
Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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Looks like you can install recovery and Roms. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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There you go! That didn't take long at all. Now you don't have to "lose" your phone.
thank you
I really appreciate the info... I'll check it out tonight and let you all know how it goes. This is my absolute favorite forum bar none. By the way, I was being facetious when I made the statement about "losing" my phone... laugh every once in a while! I did when I basically noobed my own phone.
I have already rooted using RagawMod. My question is if I update software to 1.22.651.3 will it mess up root access or should I unroot then update software and re-root?
Thanks in adfvance for any help
If you do the ota update Yes it'll mess up root. Why not flash a custom rom that's based on the new update?
NEVER unroot in order to take an OTA.
Also, get full S-OFF while you still can.
In order to upgrade now that you are rooted, you flash a custom ROM. Thats it. Don't take the OTA, don't unroot.
RE-root
The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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If you're rooted you should be able to flash MeanROM, i didn't take the ota but im s-on and am running it
Sent from my Mean Ass NuVo LTE
Still not sure why I would want the update after I root and get s-off. All I really want to do at the moment is root so I can delete all the sprint garbage and get rid of sense. I know doing the OTA is a no-no, but is there anything I should think about doing after I root? Can anyone recommend the best way to go about that? I'm basically a new, but I want to make sure I have the ability to mess with my phone down the road.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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You cannot get S-OFF if you took the OTA. Simple as that.
You can still flash ROMS though
Yep i still have s-off after taking the OTA it is just my hboot is different
I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
cjbart1009 said:
I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
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Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
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Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
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I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
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I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
Tower1972 said:
I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
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Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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cjbart1009 said:
Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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You need to slow down, as it seems that you are rushing ahead with very little understanding of what you are doing. I recommend any newcomer (even experienced HTC users) to this phone spend at least a couple hours reading and learning before doing any mods to the phone. If a total n00b to Android, root, etc. then more time should be taken to research and learn. Reading includes the sticky threads, basic guides, and also my Index thread has a lot of information organized: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Sunshine is an s-off method, not root.
If you unlocked the bootloader, all you need to root is flash SU/SuperSU or a rooted ROM. S-off is not required for root.
Backing up the stock ROM, recovery, etc. is not required for the AT&T version, as you can RUU back to stock.
Also, AT&T (directly through them, not HTC) will only void your warranty for physical or water damage; not for mods.
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
Sent from my HTC 1M8
cjbart1009 said:
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
cjbart1009 said:
That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
Lol. I'll check it out. Thanks
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
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Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
Sent from my HTC 1M8
cjbart1009 said:
Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
Sent from my HTC 1M8
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Decent actually. I do run ALOT of stuff all the time, plus texts,,videos...gps...so for what I all use on it, it works great!
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
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---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 PM ----------
Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
cjbart1009 said:
Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 PM ----------
Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
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Better than ARHD?
I can get back into recovery but ever since I've attempted to flash a costum rom such as Viper or Revolution it gets stuck in the splash screen.
I'm not sure whats going on but I can boot into AOKP. If someone can help me out with the appropriate steps to take to flash one of those roms OR to flash back to stock I'd really appreciate because I've been at this for a couple of hours now and my head is starting to hurt :/
You need to update your firmware to run a Sense 2.22 based ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
From the linked post:
The issues you will see without the new firmware include long boot times with no boot animations and some users on 9.1 reported wifi and bluetooth issues.
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You need to update your firmware to run a Sense 2.22 based ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
From the linked post:
The issues you will see without the new firmware include long boot times with no boot animations and some users on 9.1 reported wifi and bluetooth issues.
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I see you helping a lot people here redpoint so first of all thanks.
I just used the RUU.exe to return to at&t stock software number 1.58.502.1
I've read exactly what you said about being on Sense 2.22 but that's where I'm not sure what to do since AT&T hasn't release 4.4.3 yet and theres nothing for me to update to.
Do I have to S-off to obtain Sense 2.22? And also how difficult is it to S-ON? Again thanks so much.
afrojoc said:
I just used the RUU.exe to return to at&t stock software number 1.58.502.1
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Kind of did things the hard way, although you are back up and running. Now you will need to unlock the bootloader and install custom recovery again, to get back to where you were.
All you really needed to do was either restore your nandroid (you should always make one before flashing anything) or get a different ROM (Sense 1.xxx base) onto the phone and flash it.
Also, the phone was likely not really "stuck", just taking a REALLY LONG time to boot, like 10 minutes.
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I've read exactly what you said about being on Sense 2.22 but that's where I'm not sure what to do since AT&T hasn't release 4.4.3 yet and theres nothing for me to update to.
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The post I linked previously includes the specific firmware package for US users, and a link to detailed instructions. 2.22.1540 is what you want to use, its pulled from the US Dev Edition OTA. While its not the "official AT&T" firmware, the DE is identical to the AT&T version in everything except AT&T branding (band support, etc.) and designed specifically for use on AT&T. Users here (including myself) can confirm it works seamlessly on the AT&T version.
2.22.1540 is also specifically advocated for use on the AT&T version in the following ROM post, along with great instruction (this is personally the one I used). Although you have to download the whole ROM, as the firmware is packed with it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
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Do I have to S-off to obtain Sense 2.22?
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To update the firmware as I've described, yes. Reason being, the partitions that need to be updated by the firmware (radio, hboot, etc.) can't be modified without either S-off, or "official" update meant for your version.
The other option is to remain S-on and wait until AT&T releases the OTA. But who knows when that will be . . .
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And also how difficult is it to S-ON?
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S-on isn't really necessary. As long as you understand the implications of s-off, its usually better to be s-off. More freedom, and more options to recover if you have issues.
Also, AT&T doesn't care about s-off in terms of warranty service. They only care about physical damage or water damage.
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Again thanks so much. I see you helping a lot people here redpoint so first of all thanks
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No problem at all. I've benefited a lot from XDA, and its my way of contributing.
I have an M8 from AT&T, unlocked bootloader, rooted, and S-Off. Phone is running 4.4.3... the 2.23 sense, I got the update right before they pulled it. I want to go to newer roms,but they all use the 3.28 update, and AT&T hasn't gotten the update yet, but i'm having some major withdraws. I was just asking how to I go about updating? I saw a few posts but I am beyond confused.
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I have an M8 from AT&T, unlocked bootloader, rooted, and S-Off. Phone is running 4.4.3... the 2.23 sense, I got the update right before they pulled it. I want to go to newer roms,but they all use the 3.28 update, and AT&T hasn't gotten the update yet, but i'm having some major withdraws. I was just asking how to I go about updating? I saw a few posts but I am beyond confused.
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Wonders_Never_Cease makes it easy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
Here I go again with an alternative that may be easier.
Being S-OFF is a plus but no mention of Supercid.
Below is super simple and requires the use of your external sdcard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2824048
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Here I go again with an alternative that may be easier.
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If someone can't handle fastboot commands, they should be flashing firmware at all.
It should be understood that flashing firmware is one of the riskier mods to do; and not to be taken lightly. Unlike flashing a ROM, root, etc., you can actually brick the phone flashing firmware, if you don't fully understand what you are doing.
@redpoint73
No need to quote me as I've agreed with you over and over about this very subject in multiple threads my friend. I can remember being new to all this and how intimidating anything to do with adb/fastboot or even the word commands would make me feel.we seem to end up following each other around quit a bit so let's not make it personal man as it do respect you.
AT&T HTC ONE M8
dagriff1997 said:
I have an M8 from AT&T, unlocked bootloader, rooted, and S-Off. Phone is running 4.4.3... the 2.23 sense, I got the update right before they pulled it. I want to go to newer roms,but they all use the 3.28 update, and AT&T hasn't gotten the update yet, but i'm having some major withdraws. I was just asking how to I go about updating? I saw a few posts but I am beyond confused.
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The easiest way to upgrade the firmware is to get supercid and run the 3.28.1540.5 dev ed RUU. Worked like a charm for my AT&T m8
Supercid is not needed, BS_US001 or BS_US002 works fine
mattprice86 said:
The easiest way to upgrade the firmware is to get supercid and run the 3.28.1540.5 dev ed RUU. Worked like a charm for my AT&T m8
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@Wonders_Never_Cease
Will supercid work as well?
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@Wonders_Never_Cease
Will supercid work as well?
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Supercid will work for all cids. It's easier, Bc then you don't have to worry about changing it all the time to do different things. As wonders_never_cease mentioned, it's not necessary, however.
@mattprice86
Thank you for the answer ,I don't recall it mentioned that Supercid would work.
I figure why change it to a specific Cid if I can change it once
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@redpoint73
No need to quote me as I've agreed with you over and over about this very subject in multiple threads my friend. I can remember being new to all this and how intimidating anything to do with adb/fastboot or even the word commands would make me feel.we seem to end up following each other around quit a bit so let's not make it personal man as it do respect you.
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I am free to respond or quote others if I choose to (as are you). I was just raising a point, that IMO firmware (as I already explicitly mentioned) is not something to be taken lightly, and not something that should be made "easier". But just my opinion (and no more or less valid an opinion than yours).
There is nothing "personal" in my post directed toward you. Not a single thing that could be construed as a personal attack, insult, disrespectful, etc. If you took it that way, its your own interpretation.
There aren't all that many folks in the AT&T specific forum section willing to contribute help on a consistent basis, as you likely already noticed. The fact that I have responded to you on multiple occasions is merely a matter if that circumstance (just coincidence, really). Believe it or not, I'm not stalking you or anything. I would have responded/quoted you the same way regardless of whether I recognized your nickname or not.
Your contribution is certainly appreciated. I was just throwing in my 2 cents.