Hope someone here can advice me.
I want to buy the Sony Xperia Tablet Z2, but havent decided about which one. Should I go for the 16GB or the 32GB version?
I will use a MicroSD card with it, 64GB, or if possible a 128GB MicroSDXC card. So I will have lots of room for movies, music and pics on the SD card. So, in this scenario, what is the best solution to go for? 16GB or 32GB?
All depends what you plan to use it for. You'll quickly run out of space if you install a few large apps on the 16gb but if you don't use these kind of apps/games, you should be fine with the 16gb
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I am already hitting warnings over free space on my 16GB LTE device. I have about 1 dozen games and about 2 dozen small utility apps.
Problem is that the LTE only comes in 16GB variations for now.
Also, be aware that kit-kat doesn't allow free file browser control over the sdcard without root. i.e. without root, you can't manually create and move files on the ext_card (even with the latest File Expert file browser)
Connecting to the PC allows full-access through the PC file browser, though this is not ideal.
Root fixes everything.
Thanks for your valuable thoughts. This probably means I will go for the 32GB Note 10.1 2014.
I dont install very much, but its easier to have a bit more mmory then just the bare essential.
I got the 16gb version and regret that decision already. I was not prepared for the fact that the memory card is heavily locked down with Kitkat
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I have just found out that file commander app which we got installed on device allows copying files on sd card.
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CheopsChefren said:
Thanks for your valuable thoughts. This probably means I will go for the 32GB Note 10.1 2014.
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I wouldn't recommend that. I just returned my last Note 10.1 2014.
Altogether, I had EIGHT Note 10.1.2014, WiFi and LTE variants.
ALL of them had a faulty display.
ALL of them were locked down using "Knox".
LTE versions are locked against using prepaid cards.
Rooting gets documented by an "eFuse".
Samsung prohibits downgrading to a lower firmware version.
Flooded with bloatware, of course protected against deinstallation and even stopping.
NO (!) software updates for far more than half a year.
And so on...
The Note 10.1 2014 has nice hardware (except the narrow bezels, making it virtually impossible holding the tablet without accidentally touching the screen or the hardware buttons), and the "leather-like" (which is nothing but an impudent lie) backpanel which in fact is made of extremely hard, slippery plastic), but got perfectly castrated by Samsungs malicious actions for locking down devices even more than Apple.
It's no keeper; sorry... :/
Regarding the 16/32 GB question:
Rooted Z2 (SD card write access enabled): 16 GB ok.
Non-rooted Z2: 32 GB mandatory.
Chefproll said:
I wouldn't recommend that. I just returned my last Note 10.1 2014.
the "leather-like" (which is nothing but an impudent lie) backpanel which in fact is made of extremely hard, slippery plastic)
It's no keeper; sorry... :/
Regarding the 16/32 GB question:
Rooted Z2 (SD card write access enabled): 16 GB ok.
Non-rooted Z2: 32 GB mandatory.
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Jupp, that plastic thingy made me cringe away from it the second I picked one up in the store.
I agree with the above, to bad you can't unlock the Sony without doing the bootloader altso, I'm kinda stuck in limbo with a non-rooted 16GB version and a hardly usable 64GB brand card :/
As I said above, use file commander app to write to sd card if your tablet is not rooted
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Dom3000 said:
As I said above, use file commander app to write to sd card if your tablet is not rooted
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If you're used to working with Solid Explorer, you get rash if forced to using that basic tool. It's no more than a last resort.
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As I said above, use file commander app to write to sd card if your tablet is not rooted
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Yeah, you can move files to it true that, but fare as I can tell you cant access SMB shares true it, so you first have to dump it to your internal memory, then move it to the SD card from File Commander. Also, you can only move files and not application, limiting the SD cards immensely
CheopsChefren said:
Thanks for your valuable thoughts. This probably means I will go for the 32GB Note 10.1 2014.
I dont install very much, but its easier to have a bit more mmory then just the bare essential.
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I also wouldnt recommend this. I just sold my Note 2014 to buy the Z2 tablet. Its waiting for me at home, havent used it yet. The Note is laggy, heavy and awkward. Just my opinion.
Pondy said:
I also wouldnt recommend this. I just sold my Note 2014 to buy the Z2 tablet. Its waiting for me at home, havent used it yet. The Note is laggy, heavy and awkward. Just my opinion.
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So, you want to advice me to use a tablet you didnt use yourself, based on what?
The Note has its problems, and can be laggy, but after freezing many unnecesary start-up apps, it reacts much better.
And you call 630 grams heavy? Compared to my Surface Pro it weighs almost nothing.
And what is awkward about the Note 2014? Please explain what you mean with that.
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So, you want to advice me to use a tablet you didnt use yourself, based on what?
The Note has its problems, and can be laggy, but after freezing many unnecesary start-up apps, it reacts much better.
And you call 630 grams heavy? Compared to my Surface Pro it weighs almost nothing.
And what is awkward about the Note 2014? Please explain what you mean with that.
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Mate, that's just my opinion. Buy what ever you like. And yes, I ran clean ROM pretty much permanently, with a custom kernel - it was still very laggy. Buy it and enjoy
Yes, Cheops, go with the Note 10.1 2014.
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Mate, that's just my opinion. Buy what ever you like. And yes, I ran clean ROM pretty much permanently, with a custom kernel - it was still very laggy. Buy it and enjoy
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After having the Z2 tab for two days now, I stand by my original statement. This tablet kicks ass. So glad I sold the note for this.
Felborn said:
Yeah, you can move files to it true that, but fare as I can tell you cant access SMB shares true it, so you first have to dump it to your internal memory, then move it to the SD card from File Commander. Also, you can only move files and not application, limiting the SD cards immensely
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You can mount smb shares from the storage menu in settings
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Hi, i am considering buying one, just one quick question: how long does it take to fully charge using original charger? Thanks
Lucas2805 said:
Hi, i am considering buying one, just one quick question: how long does it take to fully charge using original charger? Thanks
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About 5 hours and a little more using Sony's weak 1.5 A power adapter - via USB and charging port.
If you utilize a better power adapter (like Samsung's 2 A piece), charging time goes down to a little more than 4 hours if using the charging station (I wouldn't call this a "docking station" because it cannot do more than charging) DK39.
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About 5 hours and a little more using Sony's weak 1.5 A power adapter - via USB and charging port.
If you utilize a better power adapter (like Samsung's 2 A piece), charging time goes down to a little more than 4 hours if using the charging station (I wouldn't call this a "docking station" because it cannot do more than charging) DK39.
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Well, that's not too bad, I can use my ipad charger when in rush of charging lol. So far, the most concern matter is touchscreen issues, if it not get fix soon by Sony, I guess I have to skip this one
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If you like gaming I'd definitely say this is the best tablet out. For the rest of the tasks it gets the job done too. It's tough too - I've dropped mine from waist height twice without any damage - not to say you should give it a try... There isn't a tablet out there that I'd rather have, and that's saying a lot cause usually these things become outdated within months or even weeks of release!
Fellow arc owner here, and and I say go for it. Very happy with my 16gb S but do note that only about half that storage is available to you. Not a problem if you plan on using a decent size sd card though.
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Hi,
I got a 32Gb a week after it was released in the UK. Am very pleased with it so far. I suppose it's just a case of knowing that you aren't going to be able to do anything all that different with it, other than the things you can already do with a laptop. It's for emails / surfing / social networking and the bits and bobs you can already do with an Android phone.
The overall size is very good and the screen is crystal clear. The speakers are disappointing. I found installing ASWLauncher EX was a big bonus - speeds up the UI and gives you room for more apps in a dock along the bottom of your 5 screens.
I've put a 32Gb full size SD card in the slot, and am using MX Video Player app to play movies from it, and PowerAmp to play mp3s from it.
I'd highly recommend getting the dock, as it means less use of the power cable, which feels a bit flimsy and gives you the impression that it could easily be broken. It also turns the tab into a nice picture-frame!
For transferring files to and from the tablet, I'd recommend FTPServer on the tablet (https://market.android.com/details?id=lutey.FTPServer&hl=en), and Filezilla on a pc/laptop. This removes the need to constantly put a cable in the side of the device, as the transfers are done wirelessly.
I haven't scratched the screen in all the time I've had it, and don't think it would scratch without some serious force.
... Just some of my views! Hope that helps.
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Hi,
For transferring files to and from the tablet, I'd recommend FTPServer on the tablet (https://market.android.com/details?id=lutey.FTPServer&hl=en), and Filezilla on a pc/laptop. This removes the need to constantly put a cable in the side of the device, as the transfers are done wirelessly.
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Thanks for this, I didnt know I could do file transfers wirelessly.. up and running..
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Silver-Eye said:
Thanks for this, I didnt know I could do file transfers wirelessly.. up and running..
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Happy to be of help! Was really pleased when this worked - use it on my galaxy s too.
Can't say much more that hasn't already been said here,but this.
I love this machine, been downloading free ps-games from ps store, I've been downloading free movies from video unlimited. I have bought an SDXC 128GB card and formated it in FAT32 and put it into the machine. Works wonderful.
If the ps store force closes? clear cache and data and it would work again.
Got the usb-adapter cable today. it works fine with normal usb-memories. Have not tried it with my ps3-controller yet, since I'm not home.
Have not tried 720p/1080p movies on it yet, but I see no point in why. since the screen is "only" 1280*800. xvid/divx works beautiful and takes up little space.
Ok so the gfx isn't perfect on them ps-games, but what did you expect from games that old. Besides, I play games because they are enjoyable, not because they look good
just my two cents
don't forget emulation works perfectly too (not just the PSN store games, which BTW are emulated anyway). So you have almost the entire PSX/SNES/megadrive/neogeo/N64 library potentially available, together with wireless controllers working out of the box.
FWIW, for video decoding, I've found using apple tv presets works perfectly, and preserves 720p
Is worlds scariest police chases on emulator?
100% agreed, I love mine.
kryddan said:
Can't say much more that hasn't already been said here,but this.
I love this machine, been downloading free ps-games from ps store, I've been downloading free movies from video unlimited. I have bought an SDXC 128GB card and formated it in FAT32 and put it into the machine. Works wonderful.
If the ps store force closes? clear cache and data and it would work again.
Got the usb-adapter cable today. it works fine with normal usb-memories. Have not tried it with my ps3-controller yet, since I'm not home.
Have not tried 720p/1080p movies on it yet, but I see no point in why. since the screen is "only" 1280*800. xvid/divx works beautiful and takes up little space.
Ok so the gfx isn't perfect on them ps-games, but what did you expect from games that old. Besides, I play games because they are enjoyable, not because they look good
just my two cents
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How are you downloading free movies
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How are you downloading free movies
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I got five free rentals from Sony when I bought the tablet, that I could download from inside "Video Unlimited" app.
I recommend that you get the 32gb version. You might be disappointed at the meagre amount of free storage on the 16gb. Plus, you cant use the SD slot to expand memory, it only transfers files
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unclespoon said:
If you like gaming I'd definitely say this is the best tablet out.
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This statement has potential to be debatable, but at the moment pretty much no decent games show on the android market.
whmcal said:
I recommend that you get the 32gb version. You might be disappointed at the meagre amount of free storage on the 16gb. Plus, you cant use the micro usb to expand memory, it only transfers files
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A 16GB SD card is waaaaay cheaper than the $100 more they charge for the 32GB model...
Agree, SD-card is cheaper. I got the 16Gb and got the cradle, extra AC and LCD-protection instead of 32GB version, then I bought the 128GB SDXC and formated it in FAT32 and put it into the tablet
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A 16GB SD card is waaaaay cheaper than the $100 more they charge for the 32GB model...
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100% agreed.
Is there anyway to use the sdcard as the main storage device though?
kryddan said:
I got five free rentals from Sony when I bought the tablet, that I could download from inside "Video Unlimited" app.
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I just bought mine a few days ago. I keep hearing about the 5 free rentals, but cant seem to figure out how to get mine. I guess i will call sony tomorrow
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I just bought mine a few days ago. I keep hearing about the 5 free rentals, but cant seem to figure out how to get mine. I guess i will call sony tomorrow
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I registered my tablet at sony.com, I got "vouchers" on email that I could use on https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/login.action then I loged on to "video unlimited" and found the free movies in there.
The movies comes in .MNV said to be played on PS3 and PSP only. But MX Video Player can play them.
Wow, now I remember why I dont buy sony products. Whoever decided to make the sd card slot usless should get a tab up side the head.
Sd card: useless compared to non crippled slots
Micro usb? really? thats the best you could cram into a tablet this size... fail
No hdmi? major fail
The charger is the worst piece of crap I have ever seen
Bravo sony, you wanted to create a tablet that you had to cut by 100$ and a tablet that is crippled and missing its leggs.
Even some 7inch tabs have hdmi, full size usb and a charger that doesnt sound like metal teeth being snapped.
As for power and gpu, my samsung galaxy NOTE gt-N7000 runs circles around this failure.
If you love it, good for you, I require more.
Rant over
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
DreadPirateDan said:
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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The gpu plays as big a roll as the cpu in terms of render. I had a 154$ tablet that used an all winner cortex9 with a mali-400 gpu and it destroys the sony tablet. Of course at 154$ it had a ****ty 7inch screen. After my iphone 4 and 4s, i cant go back to hiddeous pixel screens. I found the perfect middle ground in my Samsung Note. It has the muscle to back up its amazing screen.
BTW, that cheap tablet with the amazing cpu/gpu had hdmi, usb and a micro sdhc slot. Its the now gone Ainol Novo 7 Advanced (not the the basic model).
I must say, the sony tablet screen look terrible compared to my Note but if i hold it far enough away, the pixels dont jump out at me as much.
Mind you its apples to oranges because the Note's display is an ips super amoled with an almost retina ppi.
I called sony today to pass on my thoughts. They sound ignorant. Their sales reflect that. Maybe if they drop it another 100$ people will stop returning it when the insert their sd card and haul the charger out of the box with a tractor.
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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wintermute000 said:
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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Bitterness ages a face ;-)
Oh, and try to download a movie on your sony tablet directly to you sd card.... oh right, crippled
Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Nowhere did I refer to playback. Try to download natively to your sd card with your tablet. Crippled. Playback is useless if you cant get the media on the card in the first place. Maybe run out and buy a real tablet to do the muscle work and use the sony for the pansy playback?
Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
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Yeah, because you've never bought something ad ranted. I always love the holier than thou type.
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You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
lifes too short to go moaning on a forum about a problem thats arguable negligible to most usage scenarios, then writing snarky 'witticisms'.
your really need more hobbies if you're resorting to torrenting on tablets and complaining about not being able to do so on one model.... (who the heck does that?!!).
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
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you are crazy boy.
He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Thanks for being helpful. I knew i wasnt the only person to ever complain here about the sd problem. I wasnt harping on it, simply replying to people who took the time to talk with me about it.
I too look forward to a root and i hope that the sd problem is software not hardeware and that sony might wake up to at least match 150$ tablets in that regard.
Im not a fan of honeycomb so ics would be nice. Cheers
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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My 3rd party apps that download video or music content are restricted to the 16GB internal. There is zero way to make anything go to the sd card because the tablet treats the sd card as if it wasnt even there. The only thing the tablet can do is transfer files to and from the sd card.. Period.
As for dolphin, what would you download with that?
On a side note.. you can download with atorrent and specify the the destination can't you? The only problem I had with it was wifi going into sleep mode.. so I was pretty dissapoinnted to wake up and find it only downloaded 1.2%. lol.
Basically I knew what I was buying hardware wise when I bought it - aside from the creaks I discovered later. Then was massively let down software wise due to the restrictions.
I feel asthough if we got it rooted, we could just rename sdcard1 to sdcar2, and vice versa. Hopefully such a switcharoo would work and then it would continue on as it has, but with much more memory there .
It's going to be a real shame if Sony's take on ICS leaves us in the same boat, can't be rooted, can't be downgraded, and then someone discovers a root for HC
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At this point in time I really have no use for a device like this, considering that I already have a Nexus 7. When I do buy a tablet it will most likely be a Windows 8 Pro laptop/tablet hybrid. Something that I can get work done on when I need to work, and consume media on when I want to consume media. It is an attractive option though.
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At this point in time I really have no use for a device like this, considering that I already have a Nexus 7. When I do buy a tablet it will most likely be a Windows 8 Pro laptop/tablet hybrid. Something that I can get work done on when I need to work, and consume media on when I want to consume media. It is an attractive option though.
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I agree! I have a nexus 7 Rocking AOKP rom and am happy, I use it for college and on the go work, So the downfall with the nexus is its sometimes cramped keyboard
I will buy can't see the poll in the XDA app
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Been waiting on this since I returned my TF700 (and the Prime before that). IMO the only missing thing is a microSD port, but I can live with that.
I'm going to wait a little bit, make sure Samsung are releasing proper sources for the Exynos, and that CyanogenMod will work on it.
100000000 + YESSSSSS The screen ppi is a beast.. my god its a apple or tablet out there killer... no clue how Samsung achieved this.. by far the best nexus tab out there.. so proud its pure Google... unlike crappie touchwiz
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Just emailed my wife to have her check the company friends & family website to pick this puppy up when it launches for 20% off
what price it will be?
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what price it will be?
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Is is going to be $399 for the 16 GB Wifi Model and $499 for the 32 GB Wifi Model.
Absolutely. After spending some time with a loaner N7 a few months ago, the N10 is exactly what I've been holding out for.
My enthusiasm is almost Apple-esque.
I don't like the look of it so no.
take my money nao!!!
I was excited to see the specs or the Nexus 10, but the price for me is hard to justify. I know the 300ppi screen would be beautiful, but I would only really use that for movies and I am usually watching movies on my pc anyway. I have a tf201 right now and I only use it for movies and reading(which is a bear sometimes). Personally I think I will pick up a new nexus 7 32gb model. Just my opinion.
on the fence. On the one hand the specs are great. On the other, I think they totally missed the mark on design on both the tablet and the official cover. I am no apple fan boy at all, and constantly belittle many of their practices. Their hardware design is king though, in the tiny details. This cover with the back attachment looking bit is not clean looking, and the slightly rounded off sides to the tablet are a bad choice :imo:
The nexus 7 on the other hand is a beautiful design. Will have to play with both side by side and see which is for me. hdmi out is nice too...
my first google tablet
perfect for my use.. 32GB version ... i wish they had a SD Slot not real a fan of having a usb plug to it but it will work..
anyone else agree with me that it should of had a micro sd slot?
markysd said:
my first google tablet
perfect for my use.. 32GB version ... i wish they had a SD Slot not real a fan of having a usb plug to it but it will work..
anyone else agree with me that it should of had a micro sd slot?
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Yes it would have been nice but they say adding in an SD card slot would have jacked up the price :/
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Yes it would have been nice but they say adding in an SD card slot would have jacked up the price :/
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yeah i figured... but dam 100$ for another 16GB is a bit high but what can we do...its a company just try to make money like us... i mean now days you can but a micro sd 32GB for like under 20$..
i wonder how much they would of increase the price if it did have a sd card reader ...
still new to android pure google but have they made them with sd cards before or goolge likes to roll like iphone/ipad/ipod with no sd slots ?
144% GFLOPS of the powervr sgx543mp4
I'll take it.
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anyone else agree with me that it should of had a micro sd slot?
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Substitute?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...64a954ffeeccf4?itemId=160696197313&cmd=VIDESC
Edit.
Never mind I don't think it's micro usb.
I'm tempted to buy the 16GB...but really prefering the one with cellular on it.
I think I maybe doing a lot of recording. Some told me not to get the 16GB since there is no ext SD on this so I must get 32GB. I don't know a $100 more for 16GB?
I wonder if we can get by the lack of space issue just by using Google Drive, Dropbox and Microsoft Skydrive on the 16GB?
Which version are you going to get?
16GB, 32GB, wait for something more later?
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Are apps on tablet much bigger size than phone version? Or they are the same exact size?
What are some of you guys reasons for needing the 32GB?
16GB. I used to have a 8GB Nexus 7, which worked fine up until Google's mass 5-day sale a little while back. I only have enough money currently for a 16GB Nexus 10, and I think 16GB should do fine. Chances are I'll end up wiping the tablet before I even use the full storage anyway
16g ordered yesterday
Don't need 4g cuz I can just tether my phone
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espionage724 said:
16GB. I used to have a 8GB Nexus 7, which worked fine up until Google's mass 5-day sale a little while back. I only have enough money currently for a 16GB Nexus 10, and I think 16GB should do fine. Chances are I'll end up wiping the tablet before I even use the full storage anyway
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Nexus 7 only has 1.9MB camera...so that maybe why you don't fill it much? I think once we have Front and Back camera recording at 1080p, I'm worry 16GB may fill up fast for me
I ordered the 16GB... the 32 isn't worth the extra $100 considering I can use my portable 1TB hard drive ($79) and an OTG cable ($3) and get a better deal. Is 4G really necessary? Most of use already have 4G phones and chances are that since you're on these forums you're rooted and have the ability to tether for free.
Here's the hard drive I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136996
You don't need external power to use it... It's like a bigger thumb drive which at 2.5" isn't very big at all.
andrix10 said:
16g ordered yesterday
Don't need 4g cuz I can just tether my phone
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Whenever I tether via CM10 Android AP, it drained phone battery fast. By the time I get to the final destination, phone already low on batt and can barely use phone for anything else. So I was thinking had I have a tablet that has cellular, I can just swap in the sim to the tablet to handle gps navigation while on trip and when I get near the place, i just put the sim back in to the phone so I can use it right away without low battery issue.
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I ordered the 16GB... the 32 isn't worth the extra $100 considering I can use my portable 1TB hard drive ($79) and an OTG cable ($3) and get a better deal. Is 4G really necessary? Most of use already have 4G phones and chances are that since you're on these forums you're rooted and have the ability to tether for free.
Here's the hard drive I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136996
You don't need external power to use it... It's like a bigger thumb drive which at 2.5" isn't very big at all.
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Yea, it seems $100 more is waste for me also.
Thanks for mentioning of OTG cable. Based on your response and googling, OTG is some cable (like this http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapt...=1353034131&sr=1-2&keywords=microusb+otg)that I can hook up between the tablet and external drive to expand the tablet's drive capacity right?
kobesabi said:
Yea, it seems $100 more is waste for me also.
Thanks for mentioning of OTG cable. Based on your response and googling, OTG is some cable (like this http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapt...=1353034131&sr=1-2&keywords=microusb+otg)that I can hook up between the tablet and external drive to expand the tablet's drive capacity right?
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Yes sir, you are correct. You can connect other devices too.
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Whenever I tether via CM10 Android AP, it drained phone battery fast. By the time I get to the final destination, phone already low on batt and can barely use phone for anything else. So I was thinking had I have a tablet that has cellular, I can just swap in the sim to the tablet to handle gps navigation while on trip and when I get near the place, i just put the sim back in to the phone so I can use it right away without low battery issue.
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I may be wrong, but i believe the only time your maps would need an internet connection is when you're first creating the route and if you need to reroute. So you could just tether until you have your route made on your tablet and then turn it off. Maps should preload everything needed. Couldn't you just plug in the phone?
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Yes sir, you are correct. You can connect other devices too.
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I may be wrong, but i believe the only time your maps would need an internet connection is when you're first creating the route and if you need to reroute. So you could just tether until you have your route made on your tablet and then turn it off. Maps should preload everything needed. Couldn't you just plug in the phone?
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Yea, I guess I can do that...it might be a little inconvenience stopping the car and turn it on tethering so I can get my navigation to handle detour.
Thanks for the tip. I think I will ordered the 16GB as your solution would work for my concern on diskspace and battery draining.
I'm going to enable Google Maps Offline feature on there and download all the maps it allowed me. I'll put Sygic on there as backup to handle situation where Google maps is not available in Yellowstone Park deadspot area.
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Yea, I guess I can do that...it might be a little inconvenience stopping the car and turn it on tethering so I can get my navigation to handle detour.
Thanks for the tip. I think I will ordered the 16GB as your solution would work for my concern on diskspace and battery draining.
I'm going to enable Google Maps Offline feature on there and download all the maps it allowed me. I'll put Sygic on there as backup to handle situation where Google maps is not available in Yellowstone Park deadspot area.
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Not sure why you'd need live GPS in Yellowstone, it's really hard to get lost there on pavement.
16$ more is not worth 100$ at all. I can live with 16Gb and the dongly USB OTG...
Dang 16GB already sold out. I should have grab it this morning.
Update: Stock is available again...so just got it a few min ago
rookiegenius said:
16$ more is not worth 100$ at all. I can live with 16Gb and the dongly USB OTG...
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What's worse is that it's actually more than $100 if you consider higher tax.
Croak said:
Not sure why you'd need live GPS in Yellowstone, it's really hard to get lost there on pavement.
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That was just one of the location where I"m going...but along the way, I'll be going across several places where they might have bad traffic and possible detour where I need the live traffic and to showoff the iPad person in the car.
Ordered Both
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Dang 16GB already sold out. I should have grab it this morning.
Update: Stock is available again...so just got it a few min ago
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I ordered a 16GB from Google Store yesterday although I wanted a 32GB. I found the pre order sale at Staples and ordered a 32GB from them this morning. I know it won't arrive until Christmas. I was thinking of returning the 16GB within its return period but Google will refund only to Google Wallet account and I don't know if I can ever use the balance in Google wallet. I guess I screwed myself. Anyone in my situation???
I would rather have the built-in memory. I got the 32GB model ... I wish they offered a 64GB.
I look at it like this , loading your drive to the hilt is murder on ya memory. 16gig seems good to me !!!
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My 16 GB came in yesterday, yea 32 would've been nice but for $100 I don't need it. My S3 has all the music I need on it and I've got no problems moving videos back and forth if I need em.
$100 at this point really is steep for me, for something I really have no need of..16gb is already a luxury for me. I do prefer the 32gb that's for sure but I don't think I can justify it. I may just wait till the price drops. I am not even sure if ill like the bigger model. I love the 7 because of its size. Its perfect.
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Warrior1975 said:
$100 at this point really is steep for me, for something I really have no need of..16gb is already a luxury for me. I do prefer the 32gb that's for sure but I don't think I can justify it.... I am not even sure if ill like the bigger model. I love the 7 because of its size. Its perfect.
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Yea, I prefer 32GB too until someone suggested the OTG cable as mitigation to me plus I'm not sure I need the full size either. I can't wait for another 4 months to see some new stuff at CES 2013 and this poll shows there are many 16GB users so I don't feel so bad and join the bandwagon to buy the 16GB. Even though the 32GB was sold out first, but this poll shows there are more 16GB users...so maybe Google had fewer 32GB in inventories than 16GB to start with. The 32GB ppl will probably have to wait a little longer?
Hey everyone, I've encountered a little nuisance with my HTC One.
Under Storage the phone claims around 7GB is in use under "Other". However, when I plug the device into my computer via USB, I can't find any directories that are taking up this amount of space using Windows Explorer or Android Commander, which lets me down into the root of the filesystem.
FYI, I have Nova Launcher active as my primary UI, so I'm not even using Sense 5 at the moment. I know that 7GB can't just be Sense 5 + Built-in apps.
Anyone else seeing this and know what it is?
It actually probably is just Sense 5 and the AT&T bloat apps. Apparently Android along with the manufacturer's skins are pretty large now. Then add AT&T's useless apps that literally no one uses and you have 7gbs of storage being consumed. This is one of the reasons I'm going with the 64gb.
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its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
cachookaman said:
its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
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Wow, that's crap. What exactly is that being used for? There's no way 16gbs of space is reasonable at all.
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That's asinine that it reserves that much storage... Completely inexcusable when you factor in the lack of an SD card. Epic fail.
I think HTC realized that since they are releasing the Chinese version WITH microSD support... >_<
At least they aren't pulling the crap they used to - like with the Inspire - saying it had 4GB of storage but then formatting it for speed, dropping it to 2GB and leaving 1.3GB or so to the end user...
Still what the hell would they reserve a quarter of the storage for?!
im guessing the extra 9 GB that are part of my "other" are the SD card data for some of the apps i have installed. but it still seems excessive.
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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jtc276 said:
It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Camera, screen, speakers, CPU......
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spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Ok. Take in mind that this is from someone who was dead set on getting the S4 only a week ago. I also want to add that my non-tech-savvy iPhone-using mother was with me at the AT&T store while I was comparing phones and also agreed that the One is better.
1. The screen is smaller on the One but it has better color reproduction and, when playing the trailer for 'Star Trek Into Darkness' on both devices, produced clearer results.
2. The One's software is much more optimized and runs smoother than that on the S4. In my half an hour of constant use with both devices, the One maybe had three instances of minor lag while the S4 produced lag (sometimes major lag) every few seconds. The S4's lag was most prominent when multitasking, hitting the back button, or going home. Switching between home screens produced some stuttering but was not terrible.
3. Speaking of software, the "features" on the S4 aren't that great. Probably the most difficult thing about using the S4 was trying out the Smart features. Many of them were pretty useless such as scrolling through web pages with hand gestures. However, it did actually work and work pretty well. I also really liked having the ability to answer the phone by waving in front of the phone and seeing some general information displayed on the phone after waving my hand in front of it while it was sleeping. But that's about as useful as it gets. I could never get Eye Tracking to work. Some kid beside me finally did after nearly a minute and a half of working with it which completely defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. None of the other features really worked well either making me wonder why Samsung decided to add them to the device and bog it down in the first place.
4. Build materials are pretty bland on the S4. I'm not going to criticize them for using plastic because plastic is durable enough, but I am going to criticize them for not really differentiating the phone from the S3 in terms of look. I was, however, impressed with how they implemented the 5" screen into such a compact and usable package, but that's about it. The S4 is no looker. My mom was also not a fan of the design, thinking at first that the hyper glazed finish was some sort of case and not the actual design.
5. Sound quality through the headphones was good on both devices but better on the One due to its added amplifier. The S4 had definitely improved over the S3 and maintained a pretty loud volume. The One was slightly louder and produced more dynamic results with great highs and lows. The average person would be happy with the sound quality from either, though.
6. The general Android apps such as Texting and Email are hardly changed on the S4. For some users, this will be fine. But, personally, I hate the stock Android Messaging app. I have a Nexus 4 and have used GoSMS since the day I purchased it. I don't understand why anyone would want to view a multiple picture MMS like a slideshow instead of each photo separately. Thankfully, the One does exactly that and has a rather perfect Messaging app. Of course, you can always download GoSMS or Handcent or something from the Play store, but the fact that this won't be necessary on the One is nice.
7. This is picky, but I really liked the One's keyboard. Like, a lot. I've been a stock Android keyboard user since ICS and I didn't think that choice would change with the purchase of any new phone. But the keyboard on the One is nice. Really nice. I almost never made mistakes on the keyboard when using it. On the S4, I couldn't stop making mistakes. If you're just going to use SwiftKey or the stock Android keyboard, this probably isn't a huge deal to you. But I found it shocking that I loved the One's keyboard.
So, yeah. This is a huge post but those are my honest opinions. I was as subjective as I possibly could be and my honest opinion is that the One is the better phone.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
HTC's storage doesn't give the user a run-down of the apps that are classified as Other when you select Other.
If I go to Storage on my Galaxy Note 10.1, and push Other (on the Galaxy Note 10.1, it is classified as Miscellaneous Files), I am given a run-down of the all of the app data that is classified as Other/Miscellaneous.
The Galaxy S3 (which I switched from to get The One) has it's storage implemented in the same way on the stock ROM.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
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Exactly, specifically the /data/data folder.
Whoever said it's the system partition is incorrect.
BTW, when you buy a 32GB device, that means 32GB total NAND storage. On the One it's broken down like this:
/system 1GB
/cache 629MB
/data and /sdcard (share the same partition) 22GB, or 54GB on a 64GB model.
The rest goes to modems (/firmware/mdm and /firmware/q6), secure (/data/secure/data and /mnt/asec), and miscellaneous other partitions (logs, etc.)
Every device on the market is this way, the total NAND space is divided up between a variety of things and the usable /data and /sdcard space is generally 80 to 85% of the total.
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm the same only 7gb though. Using TWRP I make a backup on my usb-otg. Wiped everything internal and restored from usb. Worked once or twice, didn't work today though. Probably is just system files.