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Does anyone know whether the Atrix will have the Ant+ ability? That would be awesome to work in my training regime
Adam
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Does anyone know whether the Atrix will have the Ant+ ability? That would be awesome to work in my training regime
Adam
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Looks like no. All the industry firsts were with Sony/Ericsson.
I actually read that the Droid X uses texas instruments WiLink 6.0 which supports ANT+ protocol.
Strange not to take advantage of it since it's already there! So I'm really asking whether anyone knows if Atrix is equipped with WiLink 6.0 or later.
Peace
Adam
Seems like a no here, according to ifixit site the atrix does not use the WiLink but instead uses a Broadcom solution for Bluetooth and Wifi. Based on what I can see, none of broadcom's solutions support ANT+.
However, there may still be light at the end of the tunnel. See this:
Ok, I'm not allowed to post links, google "spectec sda-323"
I understand that 4.3 will support Bluetooth 4.0/Bluetooth Low Energy, and more specifically Bluetooth Smart devices.
Does anyone have any experience with any Bluetooth heart rate monitor chest straps- even before 4.3- which were not supported by popular running apps?
To me, if a device has the Bluetooth logo, it meets Bluetooth protocol certifications and should work but these running apps say they only support a Polar or Zephyr (insert model #) here.
I didn't know if that is because that's all they test with or they're trying to hawk their own store products.
Personally, I prefer to invest in one heart rate chest strap that works with multiple apps if I decide I don't like one app at some point and how each of the running apps claim they only support 2 brands or models of something is pretty ridiculous.
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if a device has the Bluetooth logo, it meets Bluetooth protocol certifications and should work
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Actually, Yes, they work -BUT- Android does not work with them.
Most phones do support BLE in their hardware, but android does NOT have the API-calls to access the hardware (until 4.3).
If you have a Bluetooth Smart device ( like your heart rate monitor ) and you try to pair it with any BLE capable device, it will work to a certain point, since it is Bluetooth after all. But bluetooth smart is a "simplified" version of bluetooth, with the intention to cut power usage so you can run on a coin cell battery for months, even years in some cases. The problem is that while they did cut the protocol down they also broke backward compatibility to a certain degree.
So communication from your Bluetooth smart device to your mobile phones bluetooth chip does work, but since "things" have changed, the part behind the bluetooth chip on your phone has to cope with the new differences. That does not happen in android before 4.3 . Some manufacturers like Samsung and HTC and Motorola (SHM) have done their own work (all three different approaches) to cope with the problem.
Me, as an APP developer, could go to all SHM companies and make my app work with their "workarounds" just to support a handfull of phones, coping with the quirks of those workarounds. -OR- I simply wait for google to implement BLE stack on Android in a newer version.
The reason it took Google till Android 4.3 to get BLE working was that google already did want to cleanup the Bluetooth code and waited till all is finished ( that's what I've read online ). I think that was the wrong approach. Since most Handset manufacturers do not update ROMs as fast, the Market share of android devices that truly work flawless with BLE will continue to be low for the next 2-3 years.
I am doing a masters thesis on bluetooth low energy and want to use it with android, although it should be clear that I need a Phone, I am still hessitating to buy a Nexus 4, although I am in need of a BLE compatible Phone.
On the other hand there are reports that the previous nexus phone, the galaxy nexus, has a BLE capable chip and meanwhile did get Android 4.3, but in that case (seemingly) the drivers for the BT-chip do not work with bluetooth smart / BLE. (A good reason to get angry)
To get back to your Heart Rate Monitor (HRM) straps, most probably the old ones did do some "own development" with older Bluetooth. The point is that BLE has a specific profile for HRM devices, so they will all be mix-n-match / compatible-to-eachother once the market for compatible apps, compatible phones and compatible straps is existent. Earlier HRM straps did implement their own data transmission protocol over the well known bluetooth serial protocol. That is the reason they are compatible with only one or two apps (or one app with a couple of straps).
I have a Nexus 4 and just received a Polar H7 HRM which is a Bluetooth Smart device. Loaded 4.3 up, Android recognizes it, no apps do.
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Update:
A nerd at Polar finally alleviated my worries.
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We do not foresee any changes made to the H7 as it uses BTLE standard protocol. * It will be compatible with 4.3. *We have seen the recent announcement regarding 4.3 and are working hard to see what it means for Polar Beat application. It is great that so many people would like the Beat app to be available on Android phones. Us too! Stay tuned for further news.
Thank you for training with Polar!
LaKisha
Polar Customer Care Team
POLAR ELECTRO INC.
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For me that means I'll keep the h7 I bought. To hell with apps that won't support it in favor of their own branded HRMs. I want freedom to switch $5 apps versus buying $50 HRMs for each.
Anything new on this front? I have a Galaxy Note II and would like to buy a BTLE HRM belt for it. Is there any belt that's likely to work with v4.3 and apps like Endomondo or Runtastic?
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Anything new on this front? I have a Galaxy Note II and would like to buy a BTLE HRM belt for it. Is there any belt that's likely to work with v4.3 and apps like Endomondo or Runtastic?
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Yeah, I'd love if someone who has paired the Wahoo Blue HR with a Nexus 4 has got Runkeeper to successfully communicate with the heart rate monitor. My MotoActv died and I'm thinking I should have a Bluetooth hrm as a backup.
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Yeah, I'd love if someone who has paired the Wahoo Blue HR with a Nexus 4 has got Runkeeper to successfully communicate with the heart rate monitor. My MotoActv died and I'm thinking I should have a Bluetooth hrm as a backup.
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I just purchased the Wahoo Blue HR strap to test with Runtastic app and an S3 with Android 4.3 (Cyanogen). I will test tomorrow and if it doesn't work I will return and then try the Polar H7 and let you all know what the results are.
Runtastic recently updated their app to include support for Android 4.3 with Bluetooth 4.0.
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I just purchased the Wahoo Blue HR strap to test with Runtastic app and an S3 with Android 4.3 (Cyanogen). I will test tomorrow and if it doesn't work I will return and then try the Polar H7 and let you all know what the results are.
Runtastic recently updated their app to include support for Android 4.3 with Bluetooth 4.0.
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That'll be excellent. Can't wait for the status update. My wife also uses an S3, so it will be a definite purchase for me if you confirm that all is good.
I couldn't wait, so I purchased the Wahoo heart rate monitor. I should've done my research but I had to find out the hard way that because there's no support for BT LE in Runkeeper and Endomondo, they didn't work at all. I signed up for the Wahoo beta android app and gave that a go. That was fine. Didn't try Runtastic though.
Luckily I had a coworker who was after one for his iPhone so I sold him mine on the same day for the same price I had purchased it.
I ended up getting the Polar Wearlink Bluetooth (not the Wearlink+ H7 with Bluetooth 4.0 version- because it is pointless if your app of choice doesn't support it). I wouldn't be surprised if Runkeeper announced support soon, but they've been talking about it for over a year now. So it will come eventually, but the time is not now.
I used a Nexus 5 for testing, but I'm sure I would've gotten the same result with a Nexus 4.
Wahoo ble beta
Wahoo beta works with a no name ble heart rate belt.
all "free"app's ask money if you try to enable the heart rate monitor.
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Wahoo beta works with a no name ble heart rate belt.
all "free"app's ask money if you try to enable the heart rate monitor.
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Which beta? http://support.wahoofitness.com/entries/22766104-Wahoo-Fitness-for-Android-Beta-is-here-
And run keeper works too?
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Which beta?
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This beta.
https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/080b26953c056aab2e7f1192361e0f64
the export in the last version don't work. version 1.0.1.0 runs whiteout problems.
Anything that works with Endomondo or Runtastic?
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Anything that works with Endomondo or Runtastic?
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Runtastic does support Smart HRMs. I use it with my Polar H7 and Nexus 4 with no issues. I think that's about the only full featured fitness app out there on android that supports it. The other big apps (such as Runkeeper) are just MIA, as far as I know there is no ETA for support, no beta, nothing. If Runkeeper supported smart BT, I would buy it, simply because it is the only app supported by my employer sponsored fitness portal.
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Runtastic does support Smart HRMs. I use it with my Polar H7 and Nexus 4 with no issues. I think that's about the only full featured fitness app out there on android that supports it. The other big apps (such as Runkeeper) are just MIA, as far as I know there is no ETA for support, no beta, nothing. If Runkeeper supported smart BT, I would buy it, simply because it is the only app supported by my employer sponsored fitness portal.
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It is now 6 months that people request BTLE supports with Runkeeper. Since Android 4.3 has been announced with BTLE supportt.
As today the support still answer: "it's in the pipeline!"
How can such a big app can have this lack of development and not support BTLE yet? Is this a lack of knowledge from developpers? Licensing? Money? A little bit of everything?
For god sake, just update it already! This keep me of buying a Polar...
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Runtastic does support Smart HRMs. I use it with my Polar H7 and Nexus 4 with no issues. I think that's about the only full featured fitness app out there on android that supports it. The other big apps (such as Runkeeper) are just MIA, as far as I know there is no ETA for support, no beta, nothing. If Runkeeper supported smart BT, I would buy it, simply because it is the only app supported by my employer sponsored fitness portal.
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Unfortunately, using a heart rate monitor with Runtastic is pointless for me since the app does not consider your heart rate in it's calorie burning calculation. This came direct from Runtastic support. The heart rate is only tracked for informational purposes but not used by the app.
I'm trying to find a workout app that does the following:
1) Syncs with Myfitnesspal or Fitbit
2) Is compatible with BLE heart rate monitors
3) Uses heart rate to calculate calories burned
4) Works with the Sony Smartwatch
Runtastic does 1, 2 and 4 but as I said doesn't to 3.
I know Digifit/iCardio does 1, 2 and 3 but not 4.
What about the Wahoo app? Does anyone know if it works with the Sony Smartwatch and/or uses your heart rate in its calculations?
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It is now 6 months that people request BTLE supports with Runkeeper. Since Android 4.3 has been announced with BTLE supportt.
As today the support still answer: "it's in the pipeline!"
How can such a big app can have this lack of development and not support BTLE yet? Is this a lack of knowledge from developpers? Licensing? Money? A little bit of everything?
For god sake, just update it already! This keep me of buying a Polar...
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.. been waiting for this for ages as well, neverending story with runkeeper and BTLE
Guys, just use iCardio. I've been using it for the past week and it works with the Polar H7 HRM.
Forget all the others like Runkeeper and Endomondo who can't keep up with the times. You have other options so use them. I was using Endomondo but I've moved on and have no regrets.
I've been working on a heart rare monitor app. Currently, the amount of features is slim, but this will change soon.. if you participate in testing, it would help me very much.
//play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.restracks.android.ble
This looks like a good start... I am looking for an app that will capture the BTLE or ANT+ output from my new Mio Link when inthe gym. I could use my Forerunner 220 and ANT+, but then I get a cadence track from the internal sensor that I dont want and cant turn off. This then screws up the pace/distance stats.
I have tried the Wahoo app and BTLE, but I seem to get loads of spikes.
Does your app log the heart rate, and is there then a way to extract it for upload somewhere else - ideally in .FIT or .tcx format ??
Any other apps out there that do this ?
I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
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I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
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No, while the processor chip may have support for GPS, the watch does not have the required sensors needed to get a GPS lock and to feed data to the processor.
If the sensor was actually in the device? Certainly there would be a way to enable it with a custom ROM, but that still dictates that the sensor would need to be built into it.
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I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
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It means it natively has support for a GPS, it doesn't mean it has one embedded within the Snapdragon 400 SoC.
How about a portable gps reciever it's small and you can take with you. I have a nexus 6 and a LG G not GPS when I go for a run I have to take my phone to track my run could there be a way to bluetooth a GPS reciever to work with G watch. Like the way some people use there tablets and GPS same Idea?
What about Wi-Fi?
Many sites I follow are currently suggesting that the smartwatches powered by the Snapdragon 400 might have built in Wi-Fi antennas. The LG G Watch has a Snapdragon 400 APQ8026 but this SoC doesn't seem to have it. Can anyone confirm this?
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Many sites I follow are currently suggesting that the smartwatches powered by the Snapdragon 400 might have built in Wi-Fi antennas. The LG G Watch has a Snapdragon 400 APQ8026 but this SoC doesn't seem to have it. Can anyone confirm this?
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When I looked at the teardown, the radio chipset is solely BT 4.0 :\ no wifi hardware in sight. However while the SoC supports it, without the hardware, that support is useless. Sorry to say
I read the watches have wifi but no antennas. Is it that they actually have the needed hardware but lack the circuitry for an antenna? Maybe a hardmod? Or no?
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I read the watches have wifi but no antennas. Is it that they actually have the needed hardware but lack the circuitry for an antenna? Maybe a hardmod? Or no?
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No. What you are reading is that they have the hardware to SUPPORT a wifi module (Some do actually only lack the antenna, however those will also lack drivers since the OEMs are not likely to make them). Not that there is one built into the SoC. As with the GPS above, even though your SoC supports something, doesn't mean it already has the hardware needed built into it.
@LittleLX: I actually attempted this and attempted to sideload a Bluetooth GPS receiver app to the watch, unfortunately because almost all of them use the Android ActionBar, it refused to start up. Android Wear is restricting applications to the swipe to dismiss action and forbidding the actionbar on versions of Android with Swipe to Dismiss on. That said, there is definitely room for this type of application to be developed for Android Wear, I had sideloaded CF.Lumen and ES File Manager, and while CF.Lumen doesn't open because of it's ActionBar, I had put together a tasker app factory app to attempt to play around and trigger (I had manually installed the CF.Lumen driver) it, it did show that it would work if I had been able to set up location services inside the app (choose the location for the automatic dimming..)
So Android Wear has potential to be a very powerful and extensible platform, developers just aren't interested in it yet it seems. We as a people seem to be stuck looking at a smartwatch as a watch rather than a wrist computer.
For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
A combination of all the above!
Smart nuclear powered anti-starship laser guns.
Just kidding, possibly a wireless router or a media server.
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
tailslol said:
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
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Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
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Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
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the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
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Ah sorry, I had checked it.
And it looks like they have their own code repository now, so things have definitely changed.
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For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
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I would build my own version of Android!
Dual boot as much as possible!
Publish my Project ROC quicker
What about using the mini along with wireless display, and use them as a home security/automation hub? Allowing many apps and already existing "connected" devices like Philips HUE, WiFi Cameras, etc to connect and be configured for automation. Then assigning older android devices to pair and be set in various rooms, to be used as wifi motion detectors.
Well as a developer, I'd improve the way I interact with my devices as an user.
Chromecast and Android Home devices are great but they're not how the future should actually look. In my opinion Google is limiting hardware on those devices to keep prices low and make them impossible to run upcoming software, more powerful software.
Okay let's say we have an AIO device (similar to Android Home) but with a few sets of functionality baked in:
- Network attached Storage: Store all the things you want to share with the family (photos, music, movies...)
- Network attached Storage: Stream whatever is hosted in the box to the "cast enabled devices around the device"
- Network attached Storage: Synced folders between family devices per user request (similar to how resilio sync works)
- Network attached Storage: Remote access for downloads (you're out of home but you start a download that will be waiting for you when you arrive)
- Assistant: Always On Keyword detection
- Assistant: Customized context-aware commands per user inside the network (If John or his devices are not connected to the Wireless network or discoverable through BLE don't suggest content that he might like)
- Assistant: TV as a remote interface of the device with a dashboard, the device microphone as a IO device of the TV.
- Assistant: Device state awareness, notify when battery is low on x device.
BRAINSTORM -- What if Jide actually focused on getting the projects they currently have out working to perfection instead of coming out with new semi broken products?! Then, when everything worked as best as possible, Jide could come out with new stuff that makes the current goodness even better!!!! Wow, what a novel concept!
If i had it, (and if i can), I'll bring the android code and libs to windows,, it's just like WINE on Ubuntu, and isn't like the ancient emulator which is kill my usage
So,, yes... I'll open the play store just when i click it in my windows PC's, installing apk just in Program Files (Android) folder, using linux or android command in cmd (like bash actually) and getting a root access with just allow the UAC
Some of you might already be aware others maybe not, with the latest build of the "Headunit Reloaded app" you can now enjoy the Android Auto experience on almost any device. The app can be found in it's own thread, together with all the how to's and all the support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...ndroid-4-1-headunit-reloaded-android-t3432348
Currently confirmed units capable to run the app:
- RK3188 based units, but only through Wifi connection
- AN-21U, xTrons, will work with USB, but only using Software decoding (occasionally that can produce some H264 decoding glitched)
-Allwinner powered devices
- Intel powered Joying units
Possibly other devices as well.
I have just updated the free trial app version to match the latest release so trial now also include all the features from the main build for those who want to try it out on their devices.
Can you tell me what this actually can do for me?
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Can you tell me what this actually can do for me?
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The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
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The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
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Great, I give it a try after my business trip.
Emil Borconi said:
The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
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I dont understand the point - a full Android headunit can do so much more than Android auto.
Its a bit like saying "theres this great app that reduces the functionality of your device and makes it dumber".
Or have I missed something ?
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I dont understand the point - a full Android headunit can do so much more than Android auto.
Its a bit like saying "theres this great app that reduces the functionality of your device and makes it dumber".
Or have I missed something ?
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Hi.
You are half way right, using "Android Auto" is way more limited than using a full blown Android, but it has some advantages as well, like for example it integrates SMS control from the headunit and data used between the phone and the headunit isn't classed as tethered data, which comes VERY hand for those who have included allowance in their phone package but not usable for tethering. Meaning you can listen to online streams (radios) on the road without tethering to the headunit. I know you can do that over A2DP as well, but most of this devices have a very cheap and bad quality A2DP receiver making listening to anything a painful act rather than an enjoyable experience.
Others will find the simplicity of the app appealing as well as the fact that it removes all the unnecessary notifications (distractions) while driving, but this like everything else related to Android Auto VS a full Android headunit is subjective.
Everybody has different needs, different preferences and so on so while some people will find Android Auto to be the best alternative possible others will say it's stupid to limit the functionality of your headunit. I tend to agree with both of them and both have valid points, I thinks it's down to individual preference.
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Hi.
You are half way right, using "Android Auto" is way more limited than using a full blown Android, but it has some advantages as well, like for example it integrates SMS control from the headunit and data used between the phone and the headunit isn't classed as tethered data, which comes VERY hand for those who have included allowance in their phone package but not usable for tethering. Meaning you can listen to online streams (radios) on the road without tethering to the headunit. I know you can do that over A2DP as well, but most of this devices have a very cheap and bad quality A2DP receiver making listening to anything a painful act rather than an enjoyable experience.
Others will find the simplicity of the app appealing as well as the fact that it removes all the unnecessary notifications (distractions) while driving, but this like everything else related to Android Auto VS a full Android headunit is subjective.
Everybody has different needs, different preferences and so on so while some people will find Android Auto to be the best alternative possible others will say it's stupid to limit the functionality of your headunit. I tend to agree with both of them and both have valid points, I thinks it's down to individual preference.
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Yes, you make some good points actually, some of which I find quite appealing. I kinda fancy some of those features on my Android headunit without running Android auto.
Just seen youre the dev, I wasnt trying to dis your project, just couldnt see the point, although I can now and yeah, its all subjective and down to personal preference.
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Yes, you make some good points actually, some of which I find quite appealing. I kinda fancy some of those features on my Android headunit without running Android auto.
Just seen youre the dev, I wasnt trying to dis your project, just couldnt see the point, although I can now and yeah, its all subjective and down to personal preference.
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No worries haven't considered it like that, I like to be as objective as possible, same with AutoMate, I think it's a great app and usually when I'm asked to compared it against AA I try to do it in objective way.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter which approach somebody takes until the it doesn't start with the i letter
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No worries haven't considered it like that, I like to be as objective as possible, same with AutoMate, I think it's a great app and usually when I'm asked to compared it against AA I try to do it in objective way.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter which approach somebody takes until the it doesn't start with the i letter
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Maybe your next project should be bringing some of the advantages of this one to people who dont want Android Auto on their Android headunit, but want some of the benefits youve pointed out, like tethering data classed as phone data and SMS control from the headunit ? Sort of a halfway house. (I m joking but kinda serious too).
Emil Borconi said:
Some of you might already be aware others maybe not, with the latest build of the "Headunit Reloaded app" you can now enjoy the Android Auto experience on almost any device. The app can be found in it's own thread, together with all the how to's and all the support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...ndroid-4-1-headunit-reloaded-android-t3432348
Currently confirmed units capable to run the app:
- RK3188 based units, but only through Wifi connection
- AN-21U, xTrons, will work with USB, but only using Software decoding (occasionally that can produce some H264 decoding glitched)
-Allwinner powered devices
- Intel powered Joying units
Possibly other devices as well.
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Hi Emil,
I've sent yiu an email as well.
I'm in India and I just bought an android head unit. Its Allwin. When I go on the app store, I can't download the app, its not compatible.
Please tell me what to do?
@Emil Borconi , confirmed working on mtcd ha 1.63c with Hal9k_ Nougat ROM on RK3188 1GB unit over wifi! Purchasing, best of luck.
hey, it's working fine, but is it possible to change resolution to 1024x768? I can work only on 800x640, and the next one is 1280x720, which isn't working properly on my HU