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Hi all,
Does anyone know if MirrorLink support is available for HTC phone?
I saw an video in this link, and they demo a HTC mode in Luxgen Sedan 5's Head Unit.
It looks like MirrorLink, but not sure if they are the same thing.
If there is any ROM that can support this feature, that would be a plus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stc1K5gQL6U
Not sure about HTC's plans (i've done a lot of mirrorlink related googling and never seen HTC come up even though they are mentioned as a 'charter member' on the mirrorlink website - http://www.mirrorlink.com/about/membership/member-list.html) - my guess would be you won't see anything from HTC on it for a good few months at least.
We are currently limited to only the S3 but there are a number of members here hoping for compatibility with other phones and so a couple of guys are kindly looking into it when they can. It might not happen anytime soon but worth keeping an eye on these threads...
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33176372#post33176372
...and the last few pages of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837847
Hope it helps.
Olywa123 said:
Not sure about HTC's plans (i've done a lot of mirrorlink related googling and never seen HTC come up even though they are mentioned as a 'charter member' on the mirrorlink website - http://www.mirrorlink.com/about/membership/member-list.html) - my guess would be you won't see anything from HTC on it for a good few months at least.
We are currently limited to only the S3 but there are a number of members here hoping for compatibility with other phones and so a couple of guys are kindly looking into it when they can. It might not happen anytime soon but worth keeping an eye on these threads...
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33176372#post33176372
...and the last few pages of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837847
Hope it helps.
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Hi,
FYI
HTC seems now supports MirrorLink & its HSML(High Speed MediaLink) which will be available in MirrorLink 1.2 as well as Miracast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPSftndjrk
chinlin0924 said:
Hi,
FYI
HTC seems now supports MirrorLink & its HSML(High Speed MediaLink) which will be available in MirrorLink 1.2 as well as Miracast.
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LOL - nice, only took them a year Good to see other phones getting support though.
ML Over HTC one
HTC one supports Mirror Link. Once you connect you mirror Link device HTC, just go to notification area and press USB connection.
There you will get Mirror Just select that. After that your device can discover the HTC mirror Link Server. This works with ML 1.1 and it has HSML server.
It gives you very high FPS of 15-25.
[email protected] said:
HTC one supports Mirror Link. Once you connect you mirror Link device HTC, just go to notification area and press USB connection.
There you will get Mirror Just select that. After that your device can discover the HTC mirror Link Server. This works with ML 1.1 and it has HSML server.
It gives you very high FPS of 15-25.
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I attempted this approach and all I continued to get was unsupported device. Could you post specific details?
What are HTC's plans
Have we heard anything from HTC and plans to implement Mirrorlink on their devices?
cpudoctor1960 said:
Have we heard anything from HTC and plans to implement Mirrorlink on their devices?
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really? No replies at all? I think it's pretty bad that the ball has been dropped on implementation of a wider range of smartphones for this feature.:crying:
cpudoctor1960 said:
really? No replies at all? I think it's pretty bad that the ball has been dropped on implementation of a wider range of smartphones for this feature.:crying:
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the mirrorlink is available on high end phone devices, such as HTC one, or HTC one max.
but I only tested in HTC device for TW SKU. not sure if it is available outside Taiwan, R.O.China.
chinlin0924 said:
the mirrorlink is available on high end phone devices, such as HTC one, or HTC one max.
but I only tested in HTC device for TW SKU. not sure if it is available outside Taiwan, R.O.China.
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The interesting finding is that: HTC implements MirrorLink 1.1 together with its HTC's proprietary mirroring technology HSML (aka High Speed Media Link) which is already included in MirrorLink standard 1.2) itself instead of purchasing RealVNC MirrorLink software stack like Sony mobile phones.
more info: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2102...-brings-thirdparty-apps-to-incar-screens.html
HTC google plus:
https://plus.google.com/photos/1059...5985126693709093250&oid=105983594520322058171
The HTC 's mirrorlink setting is in USB setting while you plug your phone to USB host side.
cpudoctor1960 said:
I attempted this approach and all I continued to get was unsupported device. Could you post specific details?
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You must have ML client to connect to any ML server like HTC.
steps:
1. Connect HTC phone to ML client
2. In the notification area of HTC under USB connection select Mirror Link
3. Now start your client application and star discovery.
4. Ideally it should show the car application on client application list.
5. Make sure that you have NCM driver installed in your client.
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No it is not. When I connect via USB all I get is a message saying "unsupported device"
From the updated Anandtech N4 review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/4
"...at present there really aren’t any Miracast standardized receivers. I tried a Netgear model which was pre-certification but couldn’t get the Nexus 4 to attach, although I’m told Netgear will update the NTV300SL to support Miracast by mid-December. I’d expect that the rest of their lineup will be ready around then.
"Until we have Miracast sinks everywhere there’s really no way for me to test how this works on the Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 doesn’t include Miracast support, I’m guessing because of memory bandwidth reasons possibly involved in scaling and encoding 2560x1600."
As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
poisike said:
As far as I know, only Netgear PTV3000 is pre-certified. Has anyone tried with that?
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Correct
No Miracast in N7 3G (or plain N7) either:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/googles-nexus-7-gets-a-fresh-coat-of-paint-for-the-holidays/
"Android 4.2 on the Nexus 7 has no major surprises: all of the features we mentioned in our review are here, with the exception of Miracast (which is only supported on the Nexus 4 for the time being) and the new camera features (which are present if you install a third-party camera launcher for the front-facing camera). Multiuser support and lock screen widgets, two features that weren't ready in time for our main review, are also here, but we'll be examining them more closely in a separate article."
Miracast will be available after the update. Which happen last night. Now all you need is a receiver to do the handshaking. The netgear one would do and after it is on you wireless network you would just stream to it like you would a windows media extender. By 2013, so early next year tvs once they start calling them smart tvs :cyclops: will have this feature built into it. Here we come google tv. wouldnt that be sweet to have a nexus 60 inch tv?? or bigger.
n4, n7, n10, ntv, n60 maybe?? i see it happening.
Just to be clear to any readers out there, whether or not there will be Miracast support for the Nexus 10 is unknown and anyone stating otherwise is speculating. What is known is that there will be Miracast for the Nexus 4, but no official reports from google have come out for the Nexus 10.
The hardware support for wireless display looks to be there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34038283&postcount=19
Copied from Exynos 5250 thread -
"Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Du al_WP.pdf
If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper."
Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
MSmithXDA said:
Here's another piece of evidence to support that it's coming to the Nexus 10 (found this from another forum). On Google's Nexus 10 Support page it mentions Miracast. Scroll down to the Wifi-Direct section:
http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=2780386
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Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
borchgrevink said:
Great, but are you sure this is not for Nexus 4?
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Exactly. It's in the Nexus 10 section. Now, I'm not saying it's definitive proof, but it at least means that their online documentation does imply it'll have it.
gserp4sox said:
Look closely at that page and you'll see it is specific to the Nexus 10
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Great! Let's hope!
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Great! Let's hope!
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I phoned Google Tech Support this morning and asked if the Nexus 10 would have Miracast functionality "out of the box".
Tech guy couldn't answer for sure and promised to respond back to me later via email.
5 hours later, amazingly (to me anyway), I received an email back from him stating that he got clarification on this question and that, yes, Miracast is good to go "out of the box" on the Nexus 10.
I still won't believe it until someone with a unit confirms it.
Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
Yeah, I had called them and asked them too. He had no idea what Miracast was and so I explained it to him. He said he'll have to ask his supervisors and put me on hold. He came back and said "Yeah, you can stream and watch movies on your tv from your tablet and stuff." I said, "Yeah, but specifically Miracast...Does the Nexus 10 support Miracast?" He then said that's more of a hardware question and I'd need to call Asus. Asus huh? Interesting. Are they taking Samsung support calls now. I just ended it there knowing I wasn't going to get anywhere.
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Croak said:
Miracast is basically just a superset of WiFi Direct, doesn't require any additional hardware on the broadcast device...if it can use WiFi Direct, it can do Miracast with the proper software.
So I'm not worried about it being on the N10, if the software isn't there just yet, it will come.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracast
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My understanding is that while the capability might be there if Wifi-Direct is there, it still doesn't mean that it will be Miracast certified and thus might not be supported by Android.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/19/wi...certification-just-dont-expect-apple-to-play/
FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
gserp4sox said:
FWIW, I have a Galaxy Nexus running Jelly Bean 4.1.1, which supports Wi-Fi Direct. I also have a Netgear PTV3000 WiDi/Miracast capable adapter. My phone sees the adapter, but there is no mirroring to a display.
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you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
crazy talk said:
you must have missed the part where Miracast is a 4.2 feature?
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No, just sharing that a WiDi/Miracast capable adapter recognized a Wi-Fi Direct device, a substantiation of Croak's earlier post.
I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
MSmithXDA said:
I'm now of the belief that the reason we haven't heard something official from Google is because the Nexus 10 has been submitted for Miracast Certification but is still under review. Makes complete sense. They can't say it supports Miracast until it passes Miracast Certification. They don't want to say it doesn't because they think they'll ultimately get the certification. So for now they just stay silent. Whereas the Nexus 4 has already completed Miracast Certification so that one they could officially announce. Perhaps the same reason they've been silent on the Nexus 7, which being that it has a Tegra 3 in it and Nvidia says Tegra 3's have built in support for Miracast and are working towards certification, should mean that theoretically it is capable.
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That actually makes a ton of sense. I also read somewhere that Netgear is working on updating the software on its PushTV3000 to support the Nexus devices that have Wifi Direct/Miracast. They hope to have that done by next week, apparently.
Is anyone aware of any mods that support bluetooth low energy. I'm really interested in getting a sports tracking wristband but every one of them requires BLE to sync to phones. I've read that android 4.3 will support it but I doubt our phones will ever see that officially.
Check out the "UP by Jawbone" in the accessories section. There's some discussion there regarding these fitness bands
I've been involved in that thread. It seems that the only android devices officially working with these wristbands through bluetooth are S3/S4/Note2 as Samsung has done their own work to get BLE working on these devices. Just wondering if there are any mods I'm not finding through search out there that would work on other phones.
I'm not sure what to tell you. Hopefully somebody else chimes in...
I know the up syncs thru headphone jack. I also know that the Bluetooth stack used in our phones is lacking...
Have you tried any AOSP ROMs ?
No I haven't made the jump to try out that side yet(I'm pretty attached to Sense's Car Mode vs other apps lol). Possibly will when 4.3 comes out. Especially with the upgraded bluetooth stack.
I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
doud1357 said:
I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
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No, while the processor chip may have support for GPS, the watch does not have the required sensors needed to get a GPS lock and to feed data to the processor.
If the sensor was actually in the device? Certainly there would be a way to enable it with a custom ROM, but that still dictates that the sensor would need to be built into it.
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I've read that the snapdragon 400 chip natively support GPS.
Is it possible to active it in a custom rom ?
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It means it natively has support for a GPS, it doesn't mean it has one embedded within the Snapdragon 400 SoC.
How about a portable gps reciever it's small and you can take with you. I have a nexus 6 and a LG G not GPS when I go for a run I have to take my phone to track my run could there be a way to bluetooth a GPS reciever to work with G watch. Like the way some people use there tablets and GPS same Idea?
What about Wi-Fi?
Many sites I follow are currently suggesting that the smartwatches powered by the Snapdragon 400 might have built in Wi-Fi antennas. The LG G Watch has a Snapdragon 400 APQ8026 but this SoC doesn't seem to have it. Can anyone confirm this?
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Many sites I follow are currently suggesting that the smartwatches powered by the Snapdragon 400 might have built in Wi-Fi antennas. The LG G Watch has a Snapdragon 400 APQ8026 but this SoC doesn't seem to have it. Can anyone confirm this?
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When I looked at the teardown, the radio chipset is solely BT 4.0 :\ no wifi hardware in sight. However while the SoC supports it, without the hardware, that support is useless. Sorry to say
I read the watches have wifi but no antennas. Is it that they actually have the needed hardware but lack the circuitry for an antenna? Maybe a hardmod? Or no?
player911 said:
I read the watches have wifi but no antennas. Is it that they actually have the needed hardware but lack the circuitry for an antenna? Maybe a hardmod? Or no?
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No. What you are reading is that they have the hardware to SUPPORT a wifi module (Some do actually only lack the antenna, however those will also lack drivers since the OEMs are not likely to make them). Not that there is one built into the SoC. As with the GPS above, even though your SoC supports something, doesn't mean it already has the hardware needed built into it.
@LittleLX: I actually attempted this and attempted to sideload a Bluetooth GPS receiver app to the watch, unfortunately because almost all of them use the Android ActionBar, it refused to start up. Android Wear is restricting applications to the swipe to dismiss action and forbidding the actionbar on versions of Android with Swipe to Dismiss on. That said, there is definitely room for this type of application to be developed for Android Wear, I had sideloaded CF.Lumen and ES File Manager, and while CF.Lumen doesn't open because of it's ActionBar, I had put together a tasker app factory app to attempt to play around and trigger (I had manually installed the CF.Lumen driver) it, it did show that it would work if I had been able to set up location services inside the app (choose the location for the automatic dimming..)
So Android Wear has potential to be a very powerful and extensible platform, developers just aren't interested in it yet it seems. We as a people seem to be stuck looking at a smartwatch as a watch rather than a wrist computer.
Some of you might already be aware others maybe not, with the latest build of the "Headunit Reloaded app" you can now enjoy the Android Auto experience on almost any device. The app can be found in it's own thread, together with all the how to's and all the support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...ndroid-4-1-headunit-reloaded-android-t3432348
Currently confirmed units capable to run the app:
- RK3188 based units, but only through Wifi connection
- AN-21U, xTrons, will work with USB, but only using Software decoding (occasionally that can produce some H264 decoding glitched)
-Allwinner powered devices
- Intel powered Joying units
Possibly other devices as well.
I have just updated the free trial app version to match the latest release so trial now also include all the features from the main build for those who want to try it out on their devices.
Can you tell me what this actually can do for me?
Oldpapa49 said:
Can you tell me what this actually can do for me?
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The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
Emil Borconi said:
The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
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Great, I give it a try after my business trip.
Emil Borconi said:
The app allows you to convert your Android powered headunit into an "Android Auto" compatible headunit, instead of buying an expensive Sony/Pioneer/Kenwood which can run Android Auto on it, you can use you existing unit to do so.
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I dont understand the point - a full Android headunit can do so much more than Android auto.
Its a bit like saying "theres this great app that reduces the functionality of your device and makes it dumber".
Or have I missed something ?
typos1 said:
I dont understand the point - a full Android headunit can do so much more than Android auto.
Its a bit like saying "theres this great app that reduces the functionality of your device and makes it dumber".
Or have I missed something ?
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Hi.
You are half way right, using "Android Auto" is way more limited than using a full blown Android, but it has some advantages as well, like for example it integrates SMS control from the headunit and data used between the phone and the headunit isn't classed as tethered data, which comes VERY hand for those who have included allowance in their phone package but not usable for tethering. Meaning you can listen to online streams (radios) on the road without tethering to the headunit. I know you can do that over A2DP as well, but most of this devices have a very cheap and bad quality A2DP receiver making listening to anything a painful act rather than an enjoyable experience.
Others will find the simplicity of the app appealing as well as the fact that it removes all the unnecessary notifications (distractions) while driving, but this like everything else related to Android Auto VS a full Android headunit is subjective.
Everybody has different needs, different preferences and so on so while some people will find Android Auto to be the best alternative possible others will say it's stupid to limit the functionality of your headunit. I tend to agree with both of them and both have valid points, I thinks it's down to individual preference.
Emil Borconi said:
Hi.
You are half way right, using "Android Auto" is way more limited than using a full blown Android, but it has some advantages as well, like for example it integrates SMS control from the headunit and data used between the phone and the headunit isn't classed as tethered data, which comes VERY hand for those who have included allowance in their phone package but not usable for tethering. Meaning you can listen to online streams (radios) on the road without tethering to the headunit. I know you can do that over A2DP as well, but most of this devices have a very cheap and bad quality A2DP receiver making listening to anything a painful act rather than an enjoyable experience.
Others will find the simplicity of the app appealing as well as the fact that it removes all the unnecessary notifications (distractions) while driving, but this like everything else related to Android Auto VS a full Android headunit is subjective.
Everybody has different needs, different preferences and so on so while some people will find Android Auto to be the best alternative possible others will say it's stupid to limit the functionality of your headunit. I tend to agree with both of them and both have valid points, I thinks it's down to individual preference.
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Yes, you make some good points actually, some of which I find quite appealing. I kinda fancy some of those features on my Android headunit without running Android auto.
Just seen youre the dev, I wasnt trying to dis your project, just couldnt see the point, although I can now and yeah, its all subjective and down to personal preference.
typos1 said:
Yes, you make some good points actually, some of which I find quite appealing. I kinda fancy some of those features on my Android headunit without running Android auto.
Just seen youre the dev, I wasnt trying to dis your project, just couldnt see the point, although I can now and yeah, its all subjective and down to personal preference.
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No worries haven't considered it like that, I like to be as objective as possible, same with AutoMate, I think it's a great app and usually when I'm asked to compared it against AA I try to do it in objective way.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter which approach somebody takes until the it doesn't start with the i letter
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No worries haven't considered it like that, I like to be as objective as possible, same with AutoMate, I think it's a great app and usually when I'm asked to compared it against AA I try to do it in objective way.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter which approach somebody takes until the it doesn't start with the i letter
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Maybe your next project should be bringing some of the advantages of this one to people who dont want Android Auto on their Android headunit, but want some of the benefits youve pointed out, like tethering data classed as phone data and SMS control from the headunit ? Sort of a halfway house. (I m joking but kinda serious too).
Emil Borconi said:
Some of you might already be aware others maybe not, with the latest build of the "Headunit Reloaded app" you can now enjoy the Android Auto experience on almost any device. The app can be found in it's own thread, together with all the how to's and all the support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...ndroid-4-1-headunit-reloaded-android-t3432348
Currently confirmed units capable to run the app:
- RK3188 based units, but only through Wifi connection
- AN-21U, xTrons, will work with USB, but only using Software decoding (occasionally that can produce some H264 decoding glitched)
-Allwinner powered devices
- Intel powered Joying units
Possibly other devices as well.
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Hi Emil,
I've sent yiu an email as well.
I'm in India and I just bought an android head unit. Its Allwin. When I go on the app store, I can't download the app, its not compatible.
Please tell me what to do?
@Emil Borconi , confirmed working on mtcd ha 1.63c with Hal9k_ Nougat ROM on RK3188 1GB unit over wifi! Purchasing, best of luck.
hey, it's working fine, but is it possible to change resolution to 1024x768? I can work only on 800x640, and the next one is 1280x720, which isn't working properly on my HU