Sprint S5 on T-Mobile Network - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5

Son-in-law switched from Sprint to T-mobile last night. Apparently, he kept his same phone with just the SIM changed out.
Kinda curious what if any issues he might have using it on T-Mobile.
Chatting with him on hangouts, he said that he has yet to see LTE but he has been in the office all day and hasn't moved around much yet.
I know that he would not have WiFi calling as that would require a T-Mobile rom but, I couldn't find much info searching...

krelvinaz said:
Son-in-law switched from Sprint to T-mobile last night. Apparently, he kept his same phone with just the SIM changed out.
Kinda curious what if any issues he might have using it on T-Mobile.
Chatting with him on hangouts, he said that he has yet to see LTE but he has been in the office all day and hasn't moved around much yet.
I know that he would not have WiFi calling as that would require a T-Mobile rom but, I couldn't find much info searching...
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He will never get LTE with that phone,frequencies are not compatible.

grncherry said:
He will never get LTE with that phone,frequencies are not compatible.
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Kind of what I thought.... THANKS!

Sprint LTE use band 25, 26, and 41 where as Tmobile use LTE band 2, 4, and soon 12. Sprint phones have none of the LTE bands of other gsm carriers.

His phone is unlocked?

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DNA on Sprint

Since this thing has already been rooted and has cdma/evdo, will we be able to use this on Sprint?
compujock said:
Since this thing has already been rooted and has cdma/evdo, will we be able to use this on Sprint?
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NO
So, we just have to wait for the hack to get it working on Sprint? Too bad we can't just shove a sim in and have it work like it does on AT&T and Tmobile. But, I'm sure the wizards here on xda will have a Sprint hack for it shortly...
I don't think its that easy haha
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No hack will make it work on sprint. Radios don't have sprint bands.
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nrfitchett4 said:
No hack will make it work on sprint. Radios don't have sprint bands.
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Hmm... No offense, but I have a sprint phone and sprint service yet I use only Verizon towers using a very simple hack. So, I can verify sprint and Verizon use absolutely the same radios. All my phone calls and 3G data go over Verizon and at 10 times the speed. When I remove the hack and go back to Sprint towers, my data slows down by 10 times and my call quality goes down. Now, I realize they use different frequencies for LTE, but Sprint has hardly any usable LTE anyway and where I live, I will be the very last to get LTE on Sprint if at all.
compujock said:
Hmm... No offense, but I have a sprint phone and sprint service yet I use only Verizon towers using a very simple hack. So, I can verify sprint and Verizon use absolutely the same radios. All my phone calls and 3G data go over Verizon and at 10 times the speed. When I remove the hack and go back to Sprint towers, my data slows down by 10 times and my call quality goes down. Now, I realize they use different frequencies for LTE, but Sprint has hardly any usable LTE anyway and where I live, I will be the very last to get LTE on Sprint if at all.
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are you sure you are using verizon towers. From what I've heard, if on sprint and >50% of your usage is in roaming for 2 months, they will end your service.
Also, sprint phones with lte use embedded sims, I think they are device specific, but maybe not. But how are you going to get that sprint sim, and no promises that the sprint sim will be recognized by the verizon phone.
nrfitchett4 said:
are you sure you are using verizon towers. From what I've heard, if on sprint and >50% of your usage is in roaming for 2 months, they will end your service.
Also, sprint phones with lte use embedded sims, I think they are device specific, but maybe not. But how are you going to get that sprint sim, and no promises that the sprint sim will be recognized by the verizon phone.
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Yes, I've been using Verizon towers for almost a year now, but I'm very careful to not go over 1GB data per month. Most of my data is over WiFi, and then use Verizon 3G when not near WiFi. My phone roamed over 50% of the time before I did the hack anyway. I do all app downloads and upgrades over WiFi only. Anyway, if Sprint does use an embedded sim, then maybe it's not possible, just seems like there should be a way because Verizon and Sprint both use compatible CDMA and 2G/3G Radios.
compujock said:
Yes, I've been using Verizon towers for almost a year now, but I'm very careful to not go over 1GB data per month. Most of my data is over WiFi, and then use Verizon 3G when not near WiFi. My phone roamed over 50% of the time before I did the hack anyway. I do all app downloads and upgrades over WiFi only. Anyway, if Sprint does use an embedded sim, then maybe it's not possible, just seems like there should be a way because Verizon and Sprint both use compatible CDMA and 2G/3G Radios.
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But with the way CDMA works with Sprint and Verizon, the phone has to be added to the carrier's device database in order to natively work on the network (and not be forced into roaming via a hack). Sprint won't add a Verizon phone to their database, nor will Verizon add a Sprint phone to their database. That's the main reason it won't work through legitimate means (and, as already mentioned, they use different LTE bands, so LTE won't work either).
So, in reality, there's no legal way to get the DNA fully working on Sprint.

[Q] T-Mobile Pre-Paid: Stuck on EDGE Network?!?

Hi guys. I had used a HTC One S for many months with the T-Mobile $30 per month unlimited data plan (5GB @ 4G). I am in the New Orleans area and it worked great for those months - 4G all the time. Now, after transferring my SIM card to my super-duper One M7, the network bar only reads E, which I understand is close to 2G speeds. And it is slow. What can the difference be?? The One M7 should have even better antenna, etc. than the One S. Please help.
Unlocked HTC One can't connect to T-Mobile's "4G" on AWS (1700/2100Mhz), only on 1900Mhz.
If your area hasn't be refarmed where they repurpose GSM/EDGE 1900 for "4G" than you'll be looking at EDGE.
There are like a hundred posts discussing this issue.
Wow. How extremely disappointing.
olemetry said:
Hi guys. I had used a HTC One S for many months with the T-Mobile $30 per month unlimited data plan (5GB @ 4G). I am in the New Orleans area and it worked great for those months - 4G all the time. Now, after transferring my SIM card to my super-duper One M7, the network bar only reads E, which I understand is close to 2G speeds. And it is slow. What can the difference be?? The One M7 should have even better antenna, etc. than the One S. Please help.
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Which HTC One model do you have?
I dont know, the one that shipped on Thursday last week. Pre-ordered unlocked HTC One. Using 2G totally defeats the purpose of why I got this phone! Is there a way I can find out plans for changing the frequencies in my area? This really sucks.
olemetry said:
I dont know, the one that shipped on Thursday last week. Pre-ordered unlocked HTC One. Using 2G totally defeats the purpose of why I got this phone! Is there a way I can find out plans for changing the frequencies in my area? This really sucks.
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You might need an updated SIM card.
olemetry said:
I dont know, the one that shipped on Thursday last week. Pre-ordered unlocked HTC One. Using 2G totally defeats the purpose of why I got this phone! Is there a way I can find out plans for changing the frequencies in my area? This really sucks.
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Go into a T-Mo store they can tell you if or about when your area should be reformed.
stevedebi said:
You might need an updated SIM card.
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What do you think the updated SIM card would do? THis is one of the $0.99 SIM cards you order for the pre-paid plan. Does anyone have info on how to get a new SIM card and transfer account accordingly?
olemetry said:
What do you think the updated SIM card would do? THis is one of the $0.99 SIM cards you order for the pre-paid plan. Does anyone have info on how to get a new SIM card and transfer account accordingly?
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It depends on your old SIM card and phone. I know when I switched to my Amaze I had to get a new card for the 4G to work right. I don't know - that is why I suggested going to a retail store and asking.
Developer edition won't do 4g on T-Mo no matter what you do with the sim. The sim is fine. As noted above you need 1900 refarmed to get LTE or you'll be stuck on EDGE
Update: I do NOT have the developer version. I work about a mile away where I get the E signal. Bad. But then at home I get the H signal - GOOD! It stays at 3G then throttles up to H when I need to download something. So is my question still, "When is T Mobile reforming 1900 in my E area?"
Is it reforming or refarming?
What other prepaid carriers should I look at to get the good speeds all over? - New Orleans area. I figure I can just try one out for a month to see if I like it - after all, thats what I got an unlocked phone for, right?
THanks again yall.
cjdalessio said:
Developer edition won't do 4g on T-Mo no matter what you do with the sim. The sim is fine. As noted above you need 1900 refarmed to get LTE or you'll be stuck on EDGE
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I wasn't suggesting he would get aws, just that a new sim might help...
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Why does everyone gloat over lte, when it's anything but exclusive in all places , people just should focus on hspa+ ,wait for lte to be out and as common as ever.... before worrying about lte speeds .... Granted it's hit and miss across U.S....for now .
When it's as common and natural as Verizon's lte out which is everywhere then it's worth worrying about .
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T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545

I have been searching all across google for weeks on a way to get rid of this horrible edge (2g) and have found just about nothing.
But my point in making this thread is to potentially find an answer, or share my findings on any/all info I have stumbled upon.
So upon my findings I have found out that most users get angry or flame the question of T-Mobile on Verizon BUT yes indeed it does work.
I have gotten Voice,SMS, and 2G to work (using the 30$ a month unlimtext/data and 100 min plan) I Have not tested MMS but should work on 2g.
I did find this, it's been asked but said that only 2g will work.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s4/286804-verizon-s4-work-t-mobile.html (
http://puu.sh/4MH9D/913f6b847d.png
With that linked I do believe that there is a way to activate the 1700MHZ frequency in our phones for the HSPA but I have not seen it done. after all the hardware is there just not the software.
I have seen it done on the AT&T S4 though.
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-t...aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sgh-i337m/
So why can't our Verizon galaxy s4's do this and pick up ALL of t-mobile's HSPA frequencies and JUST the refarmed ones?
In past T-Mobile experiance they suck on rolling out new technologies unless your in NYC or a major city.
Then I stumbled upon a WIP for the AWS band on HSPA AND LTE (exciting!) but it appears to have died down. (oh no! D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400799
and with that I have ran out of information and now apologize for crap posting on this glorious forum. if you have any helpful information getting AWS for HSPA on our phones PLEASE post it below! I want to see this phone get full use of it's GSM/UMTS radio! :good::good:
I haven't tried this but sounds legit let me know if it works. Supposed to get 4g and everything working.
#1 Insert new sim then restart
#2 Go to your network settings and make sure you are set to global or gsm
#3 Go to apn settings and hit menu and create new apn, call it what you want.
#4 Change its apn to: fast.t-mobile.com
#5 Change the MMSC (same menu) to: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
#6 Restart your phone
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Let me clarify one more thing btw (not saying your wrong just one thing i should have added) 4g DOES work for t-mobile on the verizon galaxy s4 but only in certain areas and like i said not everybody lives in a big city and it would be nice to have AWS to get the hspa that is almost EVERYWHERE. so with that said this is about AWS on our phone.
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Definitely interested in this, thinking of jumping ship to T-Mobile, their LTE is spotty here but HSPA+ is pretty widespread.
bast525 said:
Definitely interested in this, thinking of jumping ship to T-Mobile, their LTE is spotty here but HSPA+ is pretty widespread.
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see the only problem is that you will only get the HSPA if it is refarmed on our device. and here in walkersville MD thats not gonna happen for me anytime soon, neither is LTE when i can use it this summer.
What about AT&T HSPA+? I wouldn't go with them, but maybe one of the MVNO's that use the their tower's
I was on AIRVOICE for sometime and I got HSPA in the basement of my house. not once did I get edge like I do on t-mobile. so you should get HSPA as often as anybody on an AT&T phone. I always got redirected when I tried to connect on to data on airvoice though but that was their problem. I know it works.
Has anyone made headway in this field? I too have a VZW GS4 and bought a Tmo sim and can only get EDGE. 40Kbps won't do.
40KBps! Lucky! Over here in walkersville MD tmobile hates us and Hasnt reamed for 4g or gave us the new LTE (which the mj5 radio enables btw, yiu can get LTE with it! )
Install custom rom
Drake9897 said:
Let me clarify one more thing btw (not saying your wrong just one thing i should have added) 4g DOES work for t-mobile on the verizon galaxy s4 but only in certain areas and like i said not everybody lives in a big city and it would be nice to have AWS to get the hspa that is almost EVERYWHERE. so with that said this is about AWS on our phone.
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Can you give me the step by step to install hyperdriver on my vzw galaxy S4 i545. I have it rooted but I can't seem to get the rom uninstall/install to work for me. I have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 sch-i545 android 4.3 build number ending in MK2.
Just wondering couldn't you flash the full image of a SGH-M919 and call it a day? Wouldn't the software tell the hardware to reconfigure or has that just ended in softbricking? - I'm on T-Mo got dropped by Sprint for overuse; girlfriend uses SCH-I545, (It would have been nice if I didn't have to sell my SPH-L720 to switch carriers!)
T-Mobile LTE with 4.4 apps and features running on Verizone SCH-I545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560128
This is how I did it.
(Forgive me for the typo in the subject! I know how to spell Verizon!)

[Q] at&t htc one X+ 4g lte issues

Im currently running the htc one x+ on metro pcs
im on 4.2 jb i thought the update from 4.1 would some how enable me to get 4g lte speeds but its still not working
ive changed apn a few times but still cant get 4g lts before i updated to 4.2 i was able to flash a few different radios but still couldnt get the 4g lte
any help would be appreciated or just an explanation as to why im unable to do this would be nice thanks again
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Im currently running the htc one x+ on metro pcs
im on 4.2 jb i thought the update from 4.1 would some how enable me to get 4g lte speeds but its still not working
ive changed apn a few times but still cant get 4g lts before i updated to 4.2 i was able to flash a few different radios but still couldnt get the 4g lte
any help would be appreciated or just an explanation as to why im unable to do this would be nice thanks again
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check with your provider MetroPCS may not offer LTE or may offer limited LTE capabilities
metropcs not much of a help
there is pretty good 4g lte coverage in my area but the people at the metro store around me informed me i couldnt run the htc one x+ on there service which obviously i proved them wrong lol so i dont have alot of faith asking them too much
denial4242 said:
there is pretty good 4g lte coverage in my area but the people at the metro store around me informed me i couldnt run the htc one x+ on there service which obviously i proved them wrong lol so i dont have alot of faith asking them too much
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Yeah, they told you that it won't work on Metro PCS because the phone isn't listed as a compatible phone on the website (the HTC One is listed though). Of course ANY phone that is GSM and has 4G LTE will work on any GSM network with 4G LTE (as long as it uses the same frequency, and since Metro PCS is using AT&T's network, and the One X+ is an AT&T phone, it will work)
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I already gone and purchased a MetroPCS sim card and when I receive it, I'll call the 888 number to activate service on their $60 plan (the three Metro PCS stores in my town haven't even opened yet). Fully unlimited 4G LTE speed on that plan. I'm tired of the 2.5GB limit that Straight Talk has.
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i was able to get ahold threw a facebook account of my brothers typed in metropcs and i was able to chat to a live person turned everything on for me right then and there i bought my card at a local store came home and activated it that way
when you get yours hooked up do you mind posting your speed results and or your apn im curious to see if its similar to what im getting
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i was able to get ahold threw a facebook account of my brothers typed in metropcs and i was able to chat to a live person turned everything on for me right then and there i bought my card at a local store came home and activated it that way
when you get yours hooked up do you mind posting your speed results and or your apn im curious to see if its similar to what im getting
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I speed tested last month when I got this phone, on Straight Talk, and it was fast as 22-25Mbps down and 9-10Mbps up.
10 mb
im getting 10 mb up and 3 down at best on this and no 4g lte just 4g so im not sure what the issue is here i thought getting the ota update would some how help but i was mistaken
denial4242 said:
im getting 10 mb up and 3 down at best on this and no 4g lte just 4g so im not sure what the issue is here i thought getting the ota update would some how help but i was mistaken
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I was near the DFW area when I got that speed, I generally got that as well on LTE.
metropcs
im gonna try and contact some one at metro again maybe they can be of some help but i highly doubt it this phone is too nice to not be able to get decent speeds
denial4242 said:
im gonna try and contact some one at metro again maybe they can be of some help but i highly doubt it this phone is too nice to not be able to get decent speeds
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Its probably that you are too far from a tower, or its really congested.
BTW, what is the APN set to?
apn settings
ive got a few set on the phone the one im currently using now is
name metropcs lte
apn fast.metropcs.com
proxy
port
username
password
server
mmsc http://metropcs.mmsmvno.com/mms/wapenc
authentication type
apn type default,mms,supl
apn enable/disable its enabled but dosent give me the option to disable it
bearer unspecified
denial4242 said:
ive got a few set on the phone the one im currently using now is
name metropcs lte
apn fast.metropcs.com
proxy
port
username
password
server
mmsc http://metropcs.mmsmvno.com/mms/wapenc
authentication type
apn type default,mms,supl
apn enable/disable its enabled but dosent give me the option to disable it
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Ok, I see the MCC and MNC aren't touched. The ones I was looking at through Google Search, the MNC was like 16 or 260. I was trying to create an APN with that change, and it wouldn't save an APN with the MNC at 16 or 260.
MNC 260.
my mnc has 260 already prloaded into it i change one of my apn to 16
and it totally deleted it so im confused but i keep playing withthe settings and still nothing so im about to quit i went to the metro store around me as much as i didnt want to and when i was talking with the guy he ran a speed test on his phone which was the samsung mega he had 54 mbs up and 15 down
denial4242 said:
my mnc has 260 already prloaded into it i change one of my apn to 16
and it totally deleted it so im confused but i keep playing withthe settings and still nothing so im about to quit i went to the metro store around me as much as i didnt want to and when i was talking with the guy he ran a speed test on his phone which was the samsung mega he had 54 mbs up and 15 down
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I found a thread that might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236735&page=4
4g
yeah ive read threw this a few times but ill look again maybe i missed something but i appreciate it you never know it could be something simple
denial4242 said:
yeah ive read threw this a few times but ill look again maybe i missed something but i appreciate it you never know it could be something simple
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It definitely should work, if T-Mobile/MetroPCS has the 1700MHz band 4 for LTE active in your area.
T-Mobile uses 700MHz band 14 (starting '14Q4) and 1700MHz band 4 for LTE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#4G_LTE_upgrade
the One X+ uses 700MHz band 17, 1700/2100MHz band 4 for LTE http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-X-LTE_id7376
Even if I can't get LTE working on this phone, I still have 3G (AKA HSPA+) that can get appreciable speeds, and I won't have data limits on the $60 plan like Straight Talk has. All you have to worry about is the 850 and 1900MHz bands for GSM and 1700MHz for UMTS (HSPA+)
ahhhhhhhhhh metro
took my phone over to metro its a corporate store and the do repairs the guy looks at my phone and by look i mean he took it and was playing with my speedtest app seen what my speeds were then check his and said yep its your phone we cant help you lmao
so i get online with metro live chat today and they told me to take my phone to the repair center lol so i think im screwed with this phone awesome phone at bad speeds
denial4242 said:
im getting 10 mb up and 3 down at best on this and no 4g lte just 4g so im not sure what the issue is here i thought getting the ota update would some how help but i was mistaken
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denial4242 said:
took my phone over to metro its a corporate store and the do repairs the guy looks at my phone and by look i mean he took it and was playing with my speedtest app seen what my speeds were then check his and said yep its your phone we cant help you lmao
so i get online with metro live chat today and they told me to take my phone to the repair center lol so i think im screwed with this phone awesome phone at bad speeds
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Live chat just follows the script in front of them. They don't really know anything else besides that. You said you got 10/3 on this phone with MetroPCS, that's HSPA+ speeds (3G, or sometimes called 4G if its T-Mobile). Still pretty good, and I can handle that. I'll later on buy a Samsung phone from MetroPCS if I like Metro's service.
not too bad
yeah its not too bad its just bothers me that if 4g lte is availible i should be able to get it
but ill have to live with it
denial4242 said:
yeah its not too bad its just bothers me that if 4g lte is availible i should be able to get it
but ill have to live with it
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AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon all have 4G LTE in my town, it might not even be active in your town.
Check http://www.sensorly.com/map/

Asus Padfone S and ATT

Is it just me or is LTE not working for the padfone S (PF500KL) on AT&T? Just making sure before I have to call Asus support... I was able to go on "nxtgenphone" APN the first week I had it then my data disappeared and I had to downgrade it to the "phone" APN. Will be visiting ATT as well just to double check.
kbc88 said:
Is it just me or is LTE not working for the padfone S (PF500KL) on AT&T? Just making sure before I have to call Asus support... I was able to go on "nxtgenphone" APN the first week I had it then my data disappeared and I had to downgrade it to the "phone" APN. Will be visiting ATT as well just to double check.
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The Padfone S doesn't support LTE band 17 which is most likely the band that is used by AT&T in your area for LTE.
daggorlad said:
The Padfone S doesn't support LTE band 17 which is most likely the band that is used by AT&T in your area for LTE.
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Bummer :\. Thanks though! Looks like a reason to get a hotspot for my phone and other tablets/laptops as well!
HSPA+
kbc88 said:
Bummer :\. Thanks though! Looks like a reason to get a hotspot for my phone and other tablets/laptops as well!
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I installed the S firmware on my X in the hopes of fixing the sleep bug that seems to be sticking around -- and to get a Lollipop upgrade if they release one.
But I still get HSPA+ on mine which is good enough for me for what I need to do. Anything faster just seems to suck down my bandwidth. It's really good enough instead of getting a second plan on your device. It's not like you're stuck with EDGE or anything.
Is the padphone x mini worthwhile?

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