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Nice to see. Hopefully it is true. Let's see how long it takes HTC to skin it and push it out.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/android-3-2-detailed-supports-7-inch-displays-qualcomm-cpus/
Westfire said:
Nice to see. Hopefully it is true. Let's see how long it takes HTC to skin it and push it out.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/android-3-2-detailed-supports-7-inch-displays-qualcomm-cpus/
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I'm guessing..4 months maybe. Still, good to know it's coming sometime!
I wonder what will happen to the copacitive buttons, since honey comb doesn't use them.
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I wonder what will happen to the copacitive buttons, since honey comb doesn't use them.
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its a good question, but when not in use, the buttons are almost invisible, so maybe they will just be switched off.
I hope though that HTC just keep them active and give us back some of that screen space which Honeycomb takes away for the controls.
Well, the promise was "soon after launch", I am guessing, that HTC gets Honeycomb versions before official launch, so they have probably been toying around with it for a while.
Regarding the buttons vs. screen space - there is a bit more features in the bar with the back/home/menu buttons on honeycomb, so i don't think it will be easy to take away. At the end it will come down to the way HTC will decide to implement Sense experience into Honeycomb experience.
Hopefully the Sense widgets will stay. Other than that, give me a new market, YouTube app and tablet app support and I'll we happy
It'd be nice if we could get a vanilla version before the sense version.. just to play with
hope the sense widgets stay and the bar down the screen can disappear
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
kimmied2000 said:
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
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it can be done but why? it's like a beautiful woman with a snaggletooth she's perfect till she smiles and ruins everything...
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
I loved touchwiz on my epic, because it was basically just stock, tweaked a little.
To me HTC Sense is bloated and unnecessary. When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless.
Also, I don't know why everyone hates on blur. I know the old blur sucked, but whatever Ninja or Ghost blur the photon is running I absolutely LOVE.
@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
The thing I miss most about sense is the widgets, especially the email one. It would show unread push email from several accounts including an exchange account and gmail. I liked that it would show the unread count immediately like photon does for voicemail.
I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
And, yes, it was pretty. Couldn't a sense ROM have the bloatware stripped from it so that wouldn't be an issue?
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@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
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I guess I misspoke about that. It's just harder to carry out some actions in sense, as compared to stock android. Like hitting dialer, and being able to easily access your starred contacts. I just felt like Sense added alot of extra steps to simple actions. I guess i'm just biased, but the first android I owned was an HTC Hero, which I never rooted or put a rom on. I didnt keep it long and went back to my blackberry. I've just always been more a fan of AOSP Android.
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I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
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kimmie...try out THIS lockscreen. Same as the Sense one Agile Lock Screen
Also...I miss the Sense 3.0 Notification bar. Effin amazing. Has tons of toggles, quick access to apps, etc. Was so convenient & slick.
I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
With the HTC Sense api recently available, i am sure that someone will start creating widgets and icons etc for other non-sense devices.
hmmm that didn't sound right, oh well, hope you guys know what I mean. lol
TS out
nunyabiziz said:
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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The Delay can be removed with the super charger script, my buddy's Photon is now just about as smooth/quick as my Syngery Evo
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
Sent from my gingerbreaded delight using XDA App
brandonkahn said:
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
Sent from my gingerbreaded delight using XDA App
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What the hell are you doing back here? According to your thread in the 3d forums, this phone is a piece of ****. However your info about launcher pro and the settings is correct.
I don't understand the hate for the M.A.P. launcher I actually dig it
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
Try Launcher Pro as the launcher, register it for the senselike social widget, and get Weather & Toggle Widgets and tbe weather widget forecast addon for your flip clock. This makes for a NICE senselike alternative.
AJC9000 said:
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
xboxfanj said:
I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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Dude remember how unstable it was on our EPICS? I wonder if it has gotten any better though
randomrobbi said:
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
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I used to be a sense guy too.. I mean.. compared to stock android... it blows it out of the water... After getting the Evo I got my wife a Samsung Moment... I upgraded it to 2.2 but I never saw stock android before... I thought it was still 1.5 or something because I couldn't believe stock android looked that bad...
Stock android is ugly as sin.. and the widgets are less than ****.
But then I found Launcher Pro and its "almost-like-sense" widgets for calendar and facebook and I've never looked back. I loved Evo Deck on my Evo and Evo Shift Deck on my wifes phone because it is CM7 with ADW Craplauncher removed and LP added... a much better choice I must say.
LP's widgets are the only thing close to Sense's widgets so until another launcher starts pushing good widgets... I'll never leave.
So to answer the OP... Launcher Pro is the only Sense-like option you have... combined with Fancy Widgets for the flip clock (its the only one that does auto-update of weather based on GPS.)
Has anyone tried both of these ROMs on the Amaze? I've read all 46 pages of the Revolution forum and several Energy. Both look like they meet my needs. But I'd like a good comparison between them.
My needs:
- Close to stock feel/look (like the blue themes)
- Ability to remove pre-installed apps/bloatware
- Wi-fi calling (must have due to my location)
- Better battery life
- A bit snappier
- Free tethering would be a bonus
I've read that some have experienced texting and mms sending issues with Energy and some say that Revolution is outdated.
I realize YMMV, but I'd appreciate a comparison between the 2. Thanks.
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I'm loving Revolution right now... And I ran Energy since the day it came out.
It has the stock feel and way easier to customise. It feels better than the stock Rom I just came from.
They're both easy to debloat and deodexed.
I use my phone so much that I get roughly the same battery life on both.
Both ROMs are very fast and snappy.
I would recommend both... But I'm preferring ARHD right now.
MrMako777 points out a good point though in another threas. ARHD is 1.36 build so no WiFi calling, so if u need that, then Energy would be better (although I prefer stock rooted over energy)
Sent from my HTC Ruby running Android Revolution HD
http://www.android-dev.us/showthread.php?395-ROM-BulletProof-v2-5-0-Reloaded-Sense-3-0-Wifi-Calling
Thanks for the quick reply!
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It has the stock feel and way easier to customise. It feels better than the stock Rom I just came from.
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Do you mean Revolution is easier to customise or Energy?
glacierguy said:
MrMako777 points out a good point though in another threas. ARHD is 1.36 build so no WiFi calling, so if u need that, then Energy would be better (although I prefer stock rooted over energy)
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Hmmm. That's a little confusing. On the Revolution Thread, it says that there is "improved wi-fi calling" (from Post #1, ARHD 1.1.0 release date 19 Nov 11). Maybe since I need to have wi-fi calling, I should go with Energy.
Have you had the opportunity to test wi-fi calling with either one? Any issues (notably, the sending problems with Energy or the lack of capability with ARHD)?
Thanks again!
Sorry... Revolution is identical to stock as far as UI look... It is built on 1.36 which the stock 1.36 didn't have WiFi calling. I haven't tested it on revolution, but WiFi calling does work on Energy ROM. There's also a modified messaging apk that fixes a time stamp issue with texts.
Sent from my HTC Amaze running Sense 3.5
Ok. Now I'm leaning towards energy unless I can get more info on WiFi calling in ARHD.
You said that ARHD is more easily customized than Energy. But Energy can still be customized (wallpaper, ringtones, etc), right?
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ernieg92 said:
Ok. Now I'm leaning towards energy unless I can get more info on WiFi calling in ARHD.
You said that ARHD is more easily customized than Energy. But Energy can still be customized (wallpaper, ringtones, etc), right?
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA
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Oh certainly... Wallpapers, Ringtones, Sounds, and even lockrings can be personalized on ALL rooted ROMs... NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
Sent from my HTC Amaze running Sense 3.5
glacierguy said:
Oh certainly... Wallpapers, Ringtones, Sounds, and even lockrings can be personalized on ALL rooted ROMs... NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
Sent from my HTC Amaze running Sense 3.5
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Yup Sense 3.5 is sexy, Fourth Bar 3.0 is also amazing! but im too much of a "Sense" fan so i always go back to NRG's rom
EclipzeRemix said:
Yup Sense 3.5 is sexy, Fourth Bar 3.0 is also amazing! but im too much of a "Sense" fan so i always go back to NRG's rom
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Yeah... And whenever I root anyone else's amaze, I always put Energy on it... I think I just got bored with it maybe.
Sent from my HTC Amaze running Sense 3.5
glacierguy said:
NRGZ28 just has a heavy blue theme on his Rom... On the statusbar icons, dialer, app icons... Etc...
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I don't mind blue at all. That's actually my favorite color and I tend to update application themes to some kind of blue anyways. May save me some time......
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XBoarder has a pretty sick 3.5 ROM also that I'm a big fan of. You can find that at android-dev.us.
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I'll check that out. Do u know what it's called? I'm really trying to stick with stock-like ROMs for now. You say you're a big fan of it; what stands out (say compared w/the 2 ROMs discussed)?
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Craigtut has an ics themed ROM that is pretty nice also. I can't say too much, but his next update for that ROM is pretty sick
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they're soooo many ROMs! I may get more adventurous if this rooting / flashing goes well. I've only done it once b4 and that was with ODIN so it was pretty easy.....
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ernieg92 said:
I'll check that out. Do u know what it's called? I'm really trying to stick with stock-like ROMs for now. You say you're a big fan of it; what stands out (say compared w/the 2 ROMs discussed)?
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xboarders sense 3.5 rc1.7, great rom (my DD) it's fast, stable, and had great tweaks. though it doesn't leave much room for themes, as m10tools for 3.5 was never well adopted.
for stock 3.0 with a ton of mods i recommend bulletproof 2.5, if ARHD had a current version that would be my go-to as mike1986 is a solid dev.
Good to hear about u liking blue... U will prolly be best off with NRG ROM.
I like the 3.5 (its called Sense 3.5 RC1.7) for it has 3.5 features compared to 3.0... I mainly like the snappiness and loon myself.
Here's what I do. I flash a ROM using 4ext. I backup its stock load. Then I customize. After I have it the way I want and am sure its running stable after I modify it, I do a another backup and delete the old backup. Then I format all partitions (except sd) in the recovery's wipe menu and flash the next ROM... And repeat
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hmm... i want ics ;(, sure this phone is amazing but a Sense 3.6 would just be sexy,
the "Mainstream" Devs that make Stabe roms are
Xboarder56
NRGZ28
Mike1986
If you find a rom from them for the amaze its gonna be soild
ernieg92 said:
they're soooo many ROMs! I may get more adventurous if this rooting / flashing goes well....
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA
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Sorry... I just had to quote this.
It's not everyday someone comments on how about how vibrant and active the Amaze development community was...
There are a few others that I didn't mention from HeyJoe and Chrispaw also here, as well as more at Android-dev.us.
When ICS and s=off happen, it should get even better.
Sent from my Stock Rooted and Highly Customized HTC Ruby using Tapatalk
glacierguy said:
Sorry... I just had to quote this.
It's not everyday someone comments on how about how vibrant and active the Amaze development community was...
There are a few others that I didn't mention from HeyJoe and Chrispaw also here, as well as more at Android-dev.us.
When ICS and s=off happen, it should get even better.
Sent from my Stock Rooted and Highly Customized HTC Ruby using Tapatalk
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I list all the Roms here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545464
i have to update this lol, but no stable releases have come out in a while
we do have a lot of roms , just no ICS
We have about 15 roms give or take
Thanks to all of you for your inputs. I'm going to go with the Energy ROM and see how that goes. Maybe I'll try something else after that.
ernieg92 said:
Thanks to all of you for your inputs. I'm going to go with the Energy ROM and see how that goes. Maybe I'll try something else after that.
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Well, this phone was really easy to unlock/root. The custom recovery has a lot of interesting options--I see how easy it is now to switch between ROMs when you get bored with one!
For those that are lurking and may be intested in my experience (b/c you'd like to try something like this):
- The "How To Root HTC Ruby" was very helpful. for the overall rooting process Post #2 was a bit confusing (I think there are some links missing). I basically went to the HTCDev website, registered, and followed the unlock instructions on the site.
- I used the Clockword Mod custom recovery (as opposed to what was suggested in the above post). A good thing to note is that when installing a ROM it says to do a reset/wipe, the author generally means through the recovery, not the device (I ended up doing both since I didn't know about the option in the recovery).
- Once the recovery is in place, adding the ROM is as simple as downloading the ZIP, copying it to SDcard, rebooting to recovery, and loading the ZIP. If I can do it, just about anyone else can, too!
- After installing the Energy ROM, I could not get the WiFi to work. Rather than read hundreds of posts, I did a search on that thread and found an updated kernel in Post #4. Followed the specific instructions and problem solved.
Now that I have been running this for a couple of days, only a few things that I don't like:
- Random reboots. Though I did have them on stock, they appear more often now.
- The HTC Trace keyboard acts much differently than on stock. For example, when swiping some letters, words I've never used pop up and choices that I expect don't appear. I presume it's because NRG customized it for himself.
- It is REALLLY blue. If you don't like blue, this is not the ROM for you! (Did not mean to rhyme that but if works.) Blue is my favorite color so I don't mind it that much. But because of the way he has themed it, some screens appear much darker than they should. Also, within the tray, there is no distincition between background apps (like WiFi calling, JuiceDefender, etc) and Notifications (package updates, email updates, etc) because the theme is so dark.
Overall, now that I've "got my feet wet" with this ROM, I may actually look at others. But this was a great place to start.
I got no reboots with Energy ROM. I've never gotten a reboot (unless I was testing something in alpha/beta stages) on this phone. And if u used 4ext recovery, you wouldn't have had the broken WiFi because you don't have to flash the kernel separately.
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i never had any random boots with any rom besides Bliss Sense 3.5 ( My FAV Sense 3.5 but was never released stable ............
Maybe I got a lemon device. Though I talked to a t-mo rep who has an Amaze and he said there are occasional reboots.
I may try another ROM and see if that helps but I doubt it will.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA
Ok to begin this topic, I am in no way an expert and this is based on my preferences and experiences with the Roms listed, present and future.
I will be updating this as I test these Roms for one week or until I have exhausted featur, My signature will reflect the Rom I am currently testing.
These will be in order of use not alphabetical and will contain GB Firmware patch links when required.
Lets get started.
Ratings
1 Star = 1/2 Star =
Top Rating = 10
All of these Developers have done excellent work providing our community with quality work, this is not meant to Flame against them, just my experiences shared for those who wish to find the Rom that is right for them and I am still looking for my favorite, PM me suggestions.
My attempt to review these Roms after a week of switching back and forth, ratings and information subject to change.
Ineffabilis Dues v1.1
[ROM] Ineffabilis Deus v1.1 [6/26/12] Sense 3.6 | Beats | Tweaks | 3.14.605.10
GB Patch
First thoughts:
This Rom was the first I have ever flashed, it has many customization features built into the rom and is very very stable.
Many launcher options on installation, the customizations I mentioned before are mainly due to the launchers that you can choose from.
While this isn't spectacular, the Notification customization is amazing and quite user friendly.
I wasn't quite sure on what was missing from this Rom.
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Newts Zone XxX RLS 3.2.1
[ROM - 7/7] NeWts zOnE XxX RLS 3.2.1
Patch Located in Rom posting.
First thoughts:
I believe this Rom is still in development, newtoroot stated he was releasing an update, so this view point is prior to that release.
Issues I had encountered:
Sense and all sense related, clock, weather, etc. closing unexpectedly.
Graphical glitches in the weather, Icons on the home screen.
All in all this is a very good Rom, Once the bugs have been reduced I would not mind using it for more than a day.
Beats Audio on all apps with the Beats notification control!!
This Rom is also very customizable with lots of support from zhp pilot.
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Nils' Business ICS 4.0.3 Sense 4.0
[ROM][07.27.12][V2.3] Nils' Business ICS 4.0.3 Sense 4.0 [Aroma Installer]
First thoughts:
This is another very stable rom, it has some customization features, HTC Hub included into the personalize section which is always a plus, but the service seems to be down due to HTC.
First Boot Issues:
Status bar carrier name collapsed upon itself.
Fix: changing the carrier name with the tweaks app and then removing it if desired fixes this problem.
Weather app is graphically bugged, even after turning off Force 2D GPU Rendering and a Hot Reboot it is still sluggish looking and the menu has some graphical glitches.
Maybe a side effect of the CPU being under clocked?
Fix: Unknown.
Locksreen Icons:
The lockscreen icons seem to be only set to what the launcher is set to, this is a bump that you have to get over immediately if you like customizing your icons to different apps.
Widgets:
This Rom has all of the goodies that come stock from HTC and Android.
Notifications Area:
As Nils' informed me in the forums, tapping on the carrier name toggles Quick Settings, inventive way of hiding them and I personally like this.
Again there isn't a recent apps menu, as I have said before, I personally like being able to switch to an app that I was using before I had a Email or SMS Message.
Unfortunately it does not seem to have a way of organizing the Quick Settings menu items to your own personal liking.
Wifi / Radio:
I experienced no issues with connecting to wireless routers or signal issues.
Battery:
55% battery left with moderate use for the last 5 hours, WiFi seems to disable itself quite well when not in use, for all the people who think sense kills a battery, think again as Nils' might have something going here.
Down only 5% while editing this post and replying to a few pm's
Beats Audio:
When I know, you will know.
Wirelss ADB:
You will have to go to the play store to get Wireless ADB as it does not seem to be included.
CarrierIQ:
I could not find a trace of this trashy forced spyware.
Oddities:
While skimming through the People tab of the PhoneBook, I opened the menu and found a button for Verizons Backup Assistant Plus, When tapped nothing happens, as it is not installed on this Rom and having flashed this Rom before, I backed up my contacts with Google prior to flashing it again.
This one seemed odd to me, and I kind of liked it, but Google Play automatically downloaded 3 out of my last 6 downloaded apps.
There does not seem to be a setting to allow the homescreen to wrap to the first panel as seen in other Roms and...
ViperRez 1.0.3
This is a great rom, there used to be a lot of information here, but some how it was deleted.
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i like this hopefully this doesnt become into a flame thread
JoelZ9614 said:
i like this hopefully this doesnt become into a flame thread
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I hope so too, I will be adding to it as I switch between the Roms again and again until I haven't missed anything substantial.
I just flashed back to Nils' last night from your Rom, so some stuff may be jumbled.
I think something you may have missed from NilsP ICS Sense is the battery life. His battery life is very good (he customized it for that and stability) Using android i don't know of many people who use VZWbackup for their contacts and can't really imagine using that instead of google's own solution.
ViperRez, also is incredibly innovative and has good battery life, customizability. It is currently my daily driver until AOSP.
I would definitely put NilsP's at a 4 star at least. ViperRez i think is right up there. My favorite Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 roms.
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I think something you may have missed from NilsP ICS Sense is the battery life. His battery life is very good (he customized it for that and stability) Using android i don't know of many people who use VZWbackup for their contacts and can't really imagine using that instead of google's own solution.
ViperRez, also is incredibly innovative and has good battery life, customizability. It is currently my daily driver until AOSP.
I would definitely put NilsP's at a 4 star at least. ViperRez i think is right up there. My favorite Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 roms.
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I am still swapping out Roms and haven't fully tested everything, but at the moment 3 1/2 is as high as I can go at the moment, this is just the beginning of a review between what I have found to be the big hitters and have yet to test cleanROM.
Don't worry I will update with battery life and the like eventually, I am going to take a week on each Rom and edit this post, currently I am back on the ViperRez, next week I will return to Nils', but the main thing reason the VZW Backup is so important, new users are given the tool by default and I must admit, the Google version only confuses me and I have never took the time to use it and learn how to back up my contacts and phone numbers, something 3 out of the 4 Roms I have tried have optional during first boot is VZW Backup and Google.
Reaper0294 said:
I think something you may have missed from NilsP ICS Sense is the battery life. His battery life is very good (he customized it for that and stability) Using android i don't know of many people who use VZWbackup for their contacts and can't really imagine using that instead of google's own solution.
ViperRez, also is incredibly innovative and has good battery life, customizability. It is currently my daily driver until AOSP.
I would definitely put NilsP's at a 4 star at least. ViperRez i think is right up there. My favorite Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 roms.
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Just to add. Quick settings is in the pulldown. Just tap the logo bar and it toggles. Just don't want anyone to think 4.0 ROM does not have QS and Tweaks.
Also, great idea for a thread
I havent used Ineffibilis Deus or Nils Business Sense so I have no opinions on those, but IMO ViperRez beats out OneXxX. OneXxX just seemed a little buggy and slow. Still, if ViperRez weren't around, it'd be my second pick.
WooHoo! made the list for once.. YAY!
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Just to add. Quick settings is in the pulldown. Just tap the logo bar and it toggles. Just don't want anyone to think 4.0 ROM does not have QS and Tweaks.
Also, great idea for a thread
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Thanks for the input Nils, i'll have to remember that when I go back to your Rom next week and include it in the review.
I havent used Ineffibilis Deus or Nils Business Sense so I have no opinions on those, but IMO ViperRez beats out OneXxX. OneXxX just seemed a little buggy and slow. Still, if ViperRez weren't around, it'd be my second pick.
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ViperRez is definitely winning me over with the Beats options, I just hooked my cable back up in my car, with no amp my seats were vibrating from the bass.
I think beats every where on Nils too. Should be 4.5 * IMO
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zone23 said:
WooHoo! made the list for once.. YAY!
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Your always on my list Zone
zone23 said:
WooHoo! made the list for once.. YAY!
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Didn't know a theme could make a ROM list.
This is a great idea. I'll PM you fallen with a few ideas that you nay or may not like :3.
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con247 said:
Didn't know a theme could make a ROM list.
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Well it was included with the Rom and modifies the Rom at the lowest levels, so why not?
After reading what zone pm'd me, he actually rebuilt the entire Rom, so I think that counts in this list.
fallen00sniper said:
Well it was included with the Rom and modifies the Rom at the lowest levels, so why not?
After reading what zone pm'd me, he actually rebuilt the entire Rom, so I think that counts in this list.
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Theming it, adding ad block hosts, and updating gapps is not a new ROM. Newt did 99.9% of the ROM if you discount the blue color. I am not saying the blue doesn't look great or not take a long time to do, but it isn't a new ROM or development. It is theming.
Please just remove it from the list. Thanks..
zone23 said:
Please just remove it from the list. Thanks..
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Poor zone .
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JoelZ9614 said:
i like this hopefully this doesnt become into a flame thread
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You only like it because your rom is #1
but i like the idea of this thread. grate work OP
You need to try ConRom with the desensed option . Its the best one so far in my opinion!
ViperRez is gr8 but the battery drain
Newts have gr8 power setting
I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
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I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
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I prefer Sense 5. I've tried both. Sense 5 is definitely not Sense 4 with a Blinkfeed widget...
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
chrisomnia1 said:
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
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Same story here.
And I honestly can't wait(even though I know I'll be waiting for a while) for viper on sense 5.
But @op, the only sense 5 rom you can call stock is joelzs stock one. All of the others are pretty customized.
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love sense 5
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Would have to throw in with the sense 5 guys. I hope the Viper team is reading and makes the call. I know they are considering it.
Minus BlinkFeed, Sense 5 is quite nice.
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
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I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
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Currently still using Viper 1.1.3 with custom Kernel. Will update Viper soon though. I would try Sense 5 ROM but the connection in my location is just horrid.
Will NOT use Sense 5 until you can get rid of blinkfeed. Sense 4+ is good enough for me ViperDNA
lol. seems like most love Sense 5 but nobody loves blinkfeed.
I like it, it reminds me of a better 'CURRENTS'. But i'm gonna try VIPER soon,so i'm itching to see realworld customizations.
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I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
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Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
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^^This. Precisely the reason I'm using Viper. I keep finding something new every time I go into venom tweaks
Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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My battery was superb on stock rom. Lasted about 2 days of normal use.
My battery on sense 5 roms with Beastmode kernal was about 1.5 days of normal use.
I'd say Viper on it's stock kernal has been about 1.2 days of normal use. Although normal use has gone up since i have a fun menu to play with and reboot more often.
I'll be searching for the best kernal/rom combo along with battery saving tips without reducing performance over the next few days.
I personally like blink feed, but hate the Sense 5 app drawer. Everything else in Sense 5 is absolutely beautiful, and I'm generally an AOSP purist type. I'm currently running newtoroot's ROM at 320dpi with Nova launcher (because I hate the app drawer more than I like blink feed - though I wish I knew how to make it work with Nova).
Basically, Sense 5 > Viper >>>> Sense 4+
I prefer Sense compared to the custom Roms of Viper and CM10. I love sense 5
I am a fan of the very clean and very simple sense 5. I don't need all the customization that comes with Viper but it works well regardless. Just depends on what you want from your rom.