Possible to have always on lockscreen to show time like Nokia Lumais - Ornate TrueSmart

Somehow Nokia Lumias are managing to have an always on screen using plain ol LCD and not OLED tech... apparently the battery drain is minimal something like 1% a day.... the author reckons that it's something to do with the screen brightness being really reduced or something...
Is this possible to implement with the Truesmart because this would really be a killer feature!!!
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/18191_Nokia_works_a_LCD_miracle-Glan.php

That is pretty damn cool

The nearest i could find was clock view, this allows you just to show the time with a mainly black screen and with the brightness turned right down...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kimscom.clockview
Im going to see how much of a drain it is, but the backlight is still on so prolly plenty; Thing is on a lumia the battery is gonna be pretty bad compared to a smartwatch so a days worth of battery is good for a phone but terrible for a watch..

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[Q] Display literally destroying battery life

So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
Does not sound Normal but display is the largest user of battery( unless one can use the phone with display off
I had as video streaming yesterday for 30+ min from 80% it went to 14%
haven't tried keeping just display on should try that ...test for tomorrow
NickTheMajin said:
So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
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I have my brightness set to 15% and it still sucks about half of my battery use. The display is unfortunately nearly unstoppable when it comes to battery drain. HTC and others are like "BIG PHONE DISPLAY!!!1!111!" we're all like "I can haz batteries?"
That description is the best description of our issue.
But an answer to your question, drop you brightness to as low as you can stand it and if possible try to limit the amount of times you wake the display in a day the juice it requires to turn it on is greater than it needs to sustain the screen on.
I would say yes for the most part. We have a fantastic and power hungry display...the price for greatness?
That being said, its not so bad dropped down to 25% or so, and easily viewable, except if you're outside.
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Alright thanks. I just wanted to make sure my phone wasn't experiencing something that is atypical. Other than that I do love this phone and the developers
It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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I'm not sure I would bother chasing longer battery life with new devices. A lot of those are very optimized use cases -- either all on wifi, all in areas with great signal, or lots of screen on time but they don't mention what brightness. The fact of the matter is the phone has a tiny battery and uses up a lot of power for the display and radios. I get somewhere between 12-16 hours on a stock battery, depending on where I am and how much I use the phone (generally I'm a pretty light user, but I do leave 4G and Bluetooth on all day).

[Q] Is is wise to leave the screen on all night?

I've done some searching and seen mixed answers, so I thought I'd ask here. I'd like to be able to leave my Vibrant's screen on at night. It's always charging on my dresser right beside me, but because we use our phones as our alarms, we don't have a clock in our room.
I was wondering if setting it to stay on while charging with either an analog type clock or a flip clock would have any impact on my screen or on my battery. I don't want screen burn-in or to adversely impact my battery life.
What are your thoughts and/or experiences with this?
I doubt you would experience screen burn as such, because that was only a problem on old crt monitors, not lcd screens like your phone.
The main issue I would be concerned about would be overheating.
I would not think it would cause any battery issues either.
I would suggest to try it for a couple of hours constantly on when you are awake and see how hot it gets, if it seems to be fine, then I would guess that it should be fine to leave it like all night.
I have a Motorola Defy work phone with screen set to stay on while on charge and I have no issue with it, but I will mention that it is only usually a couple of hours at a time while it is plugged in to the car kit.
Hope this helps.
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You can experience burn in on this device. I bought my vibe used so I don't know how it was used before me but on white or light colored screens I can see burn in from froyo dock icons and the status bar. Obviously leaving screen on all night will cause more battery drain but as far as long term battery life a I can't say.
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AMOLED are known to suffer from burn in so I think it is possible if you leave it on for a long time, I've had some that have retention issue where the previous shape will disappear quickly, I haven't had any long term burn in though I never leave my screen on for a long time.
Uptill now there are not any perfect SAMOLED screen I have seen, I have owned nearly 12 by now, they all suffer from the black spots, some people aren't aware of it or don't know how to detect them. Banding issue is also very prevalent, but if you are lucky you might get one that suffer from very little of it. Point is I can't say I've owned any AMOLED screen that is perfect.
How about a regular LED clock from Target?
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Burn in is a definite possibly. When I was still on stock JDF I used to have mine set to stay on during charging . I did get some burn in but it has seemed to lessen over time. The screen on is generally the biggest battery drain to your phone

Some thoughts on G3

Overall I like the phone, but I have a few gripes. Maybe some of you agree, and maybe some of you know some solutions.
Much better than the Xperia z3v I had at first. The Xperia had a few odd things about it that bugged me, and the lack of root was getting to me. That is what made me switch.
But it did have much better battery life... I would have 50 to 60 percent battery when I returned home, the G3 will be below 20 percent most days.
The keyboard has a one handed mode, but its prediction and correction are not good. I somehow miss the space key and get run on words all the time, it's been a little frustrating. I know of no third party apps that have a one hand mode though.
The auto brightness is better than the Xperia but still not as good as it can be, it requires too much attention. It limits it's range and trays to be adjustable but it doesn't work well.
Its size has put it over my comfortable one handed use size. The one handed mode helps a bit though. Can't really do much about that. It seems to be the trend.
Its close to being a great phone but held back a bit. Maybe there are solutions to most of my woes.
Marine6680 said:
Overall I like the phone, but I have a few gripes. Maybe some of you agree, and maybe some of you know some solutions.
Much better than the Xperia z3v I had at first. The Xperia had a few odd things about it that bugged me, and the lack of root was getting to me. That is what made me switch.
But it did have much better battery life... I would have 50 to 60 percent battery when I returned home, the G3 will be below 20 percent most days.
The keyboard has a one handed mode, but its prediction and correction are not good. I somehow miss the space key and get run on words all the time, it's been a little frustrating. I know of no third party apps that have a one hand mode though.
The auto brightness is better than the Xperia but still not as good as it can be, it requires too much attention. It limits it's range and trays to be adjustable but it doesn't work well.
Its size has put it over my comfortable one handed use size. The one handed mode helps a bit though. Can't really do much about that. It seems to be the trend.
Its close to being a great phone but held back a bit. Maybe there are solutions to most of my woes.
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Battery life for me is great. You might want to get Wakelock detector and see what is causing this. I can get 36 hours and still have 40% left. Also, it just depends on what you are doing with it. I send/receive text messages, make phone calls, surf the web, read news, etc. Usually, I have it charged before I go to bed and when I wake up 7 hours later, it's still at 100%. I leave it on all night as I use the phone as my alarm clock.
Now, I am rooted and I use Greenify to help hibernate a lot of apps. However, you don't have to be rooted to Greenify now. I don't hibernate any system apps and I don't sync a lot of unnecessary stuff either. I also have the Snapdragon Battery Guru app installed which works well. However, I will say, for a few days, I didn't root this phone, didn't use Greenify and used only the Snapdragon Battery Guru and I was still getting well over 24 hours of battery life.
I use Swiftkey and it has a one-handed/compact layout. It seems to be doing fine for me, but I don't use one-handed mode.
I feel you. Whenever I do any type of graphics intensive gaming (i.e. Real Racing 3) during the day, battery drain is crazy. When I don't use it as much, Ive had the phone go for two days. The phone seems to have great conservation when the screen is off, but that massive high-res screen has got to have something to do with battery drain. It's not the most convenient, but personally, I've found the best solution to be a quick mid-day charge. Phonearena did a charge comparison between phones, and the G3 is one of the fastest charging phones on the market right now. 2 hours for a full charge. Like I said, it's not the greatest thing to have to plug in your phone during the day, but I've found that even a solid half an hour charge makes a huge difference.
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I feel you. Whenever I do any type of graphics intensive gaming (i.e. Real Racing 3) during the day, battery drain is crazy. When I don't use it as much, Ive had the phone go for two days. The phone seems to have great conservation when the screen is off, but that massive high-res screen has got to have something to do with battery drain. It's not the most convenient, but personally, I've found the best solution to be a quick mid-day charge. Phonearena did a charge comparison between phones, and the G3 is one of the fastest charging phones on the market right now. 2 hours for a full charge. Like I said, it's not the greatest thing to have to plug in your phone during the day, but I've found that even a solid half an hour charge makes a huge difference.
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Well, yeah. Games are going to drain it no matter what and it depends on how long you play. I've noticed even with Game of War, an hour of gaming will drain it maybe 8% or more. Just depends on what you do with it.
Any phone is going to drain like crazy, but yes, the Quad HD display definitely drains the battery more due to the higher number of pixels. But, for those with every day normal use (not gaming), this phone definitely lasts more than a day.
Whenever I play a game, if I'm at home, I plug it in if I know I'm playing for a long period of time. otherwise, if I'm away from home, I know I can still play over an hour of a game and still have plenty of juice to last me the rest of the day.
I would rather have better battery than the added resolution screen. 1080p is very good for a phone.
I watch youtube and mess around online a bit on breaks. Same behavior as the z3v and dramatic difference in battery life.
I never found one handed mode in SwiftKey.
Nvm... Found it
The screen is the biggest user of battery... 60% according to the battery use chart.
These past few devices I have had... Has lead me to a conclusion.
All this undervolting and CPU throttling is pretty much useless.
The processor in this device and my last few, has had very little load on it for the most part. Some games may push the system, but general use and some youtube barely has the device going more than a couple steps above minimum clock speed.
Background services and sync... Small effects overall on battery.
It's all about that screen and it's power efficiency. Resolution has something to do with it as well. As the GPU must run harder on higher resolutions.
Turn down the brightness... And then I can't see the video I am watching.
An android phone with a current SoC, a 3000mah battery, a 4.7-5 inch screen, and 1080p resolution... Should be able to get well over 10 hours of screen on time, running video...
The radios are power hungry as well, but mostly in prolonged use like video streaming.
This size and resolution war has prevented us from gaining what we want most... Great battery life.
Still the phone ain't too bad.
Marine6680 said:
These past few devices I have had... Has lead me to a conclusion.
All this undervolting and CPU throttling is pretty much useless.
The processor in this device and my last few, has had very little load on it for the most part. Some games may push the system, but general use and some youtube barely has the device going more than a couple steps above minimum clock speed.
Background services and sync... Small effects overall on battery.
It's all about that screen and it's power efficiency. Resolution has something to do with it as well. As the GPU must run harder on higher resolutions.
Turn down the brightness... And then I can't see the video I am watching.
An android phone with a current SoC, a 3000mah battery, a 4.7-5 inch screen, and 1080p resolution... Should be able to get well over 10 hours of screen on time, running video...
The radios are power hungry as well, but mostly in prolonged use like video streaming.
This size and resolution war has prevented us from gaining what we want most... Great battery life.
Still the phone ain't too bad.
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True with that. This isn't an 1080p resolution screen. It's more since it's a QuadHD, so that is definitely what kills it. But, I don't watch videos for 10 hours! LOL. But, I know what you're driving at.

Dissatisfied with battery life.

Why does LG think it's ok to ship a watch with a 12 hour battery life, with minimal use. Just setting up the watch took %40 battery
Without sacrificing screen brightness is there anything to be done?? Is there any sort of root + cpu app we can lower CPU speed with??
Did you uncheck always on screen? Only option I have off and notice decent battery life for the entire day.
Mine goes for 16 hours once completely setup. If you start downloading and setting up this will surely tax the battery on any watch. The 240MAH doesn't help, but once setup it should be fine afterwards.
I had the LG G Watch R (w/ 420MAH) prior and setting up took a good deal of the battery but at EOD was at 65%, while the Style is at 40%.....understandable given the size of the battery.
I found mine was going dead by mid afternoon with little use.
I found turning auto screen brightness off and just leaving it on 4 helps. Also think after a couple of weeks use it's got better anyway. Usually on about 40-50% by the time I leave work.
Main problem I have is the little dial on the side is in a crop place, so my hand keeps pressing it an making assistant listen, eating up battery.
Really wish there was a screen rotation option so I could wear the watch with the dial on the opposite side.
Oh well!
I would like to see more options for ambient mode. I think the brightness is too high. I've only found one watchface that lets you control the color in ambient mode. It's called "line". I changed the ambient color to just red and decreased the opacity of the lines and complications. I've been off the charger for about an hour, received a few notifications and I'm still @ 99%. Might be a fluke, but I'm sure using a single color uses less battery than using white, which is all 3 colors combined.
This is my third smartwatch in 2 weeks. I've downgraded twice because others are just too bulky. I'm sure there's a solution out there. I hope battery life gets better in time with updates. I hate this range anxiety.
I just bought one and it is still too early to tell but battery life is fine for me. If I disable Bluetooth (which I know defeats the purpose of it) and WiFi with no ambient, it lasted me about 2 1/2 days (but I do turn it off at night since I have no need to keep it on while I sleep). If I keep Bluetooth on, no WiFi, and no ambient, it lasts the entire day (13 or 14 hours) with about 40% left. I have to do more testing (especially with ambient). You don't want the watch face on all the time anyway because it will cause screen burn-in. Some of the watch face apps allow you to use an ambient where it is usually black and white with less information showing.
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
777Nalsur777 said:
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Same here.
I looked everywhere. My battery is dead, it drops from 100% to around 30% as I disconnect it from the charger.
Even if we find the battery, the replacement looks hard. I was hoping to just get the Pixel Watch but I guess that's not going to happen.
Hi guys. Today I made a short video with opening of this device.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/LJ0vkpAjmjY

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How's the battery life for people on the stock rom with the always on display enabled?
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DarthMaul14 said:
How's the battery life for people on the stock rom with the always on display enabled?
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I was just going to start a thread on this topic, but I'll reply to yours instead
I have the 3500mAh battery from Amazon an had been getting terrible battery life. I did a few things to improve it
- turn off display always on feature
- clear app Cache
- power off, pulled battery, reinsert battery, fully charge
Those seem to have improved overall screen on time performance to a little over 4 hours now. Hoping close to 5, but we'll see how it goes by end of day.
After a few days of improved and repeatable battery performance, I might re-enable the 'always on' feature and gauge it's impact.
I guess the 'official' line from LG is that it always-on impact on battery *should* be negligible, but I need to prove that out myself. Otherwise, I have a feeling it was contributing to my lackluster battery performance.
Good luck with your battery life?. I think LG should have stuck with an AMOLED display with the g5 especially if they wanted to have the always on display. With an IPS lcd panel, the backlight will always be on and the time and notifications would be unreadable (I think a led notification light was enough) but I'm glad they decided to use an AMOLED panel with the v30.
One of my friends(unscedeo) rooted his G5, used L Speed, and used a custom kernel (called Asgard reborn) and was able to get 5 hours of sot with the battery that comes with the phone and with the always on display enabled. If you're into rooting I would recommend you do that.
DarthMaul14 said:
One of my friends(unscedeo) rooted his G5, used L Speed, and used a custom kernel (called Asgard reborn) and was able to get 5 hours of sot with the battery that comes with the phone and with the always on display enabled. If you're into rooting I would recommend you do that.
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Nice! Thanks for the tip. I plan on doing this soon, but going to ride out the stock experience for a while.
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Wanted to add that I have Bluetooth on 24/7 with Android Wear & Moto Body connected/running. WiFi is on and connected for about 2.5 hours of the day (mostly at home during morning and evening), but use cellular for most of the day.
Also, just turned on Pixel 2 Live Wallpapers, so pretty sure my battery life is all downhill from here
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-the-pixel-2s-beautiful-live-wallpapers-on-yo-1819507585
I think cellular data and Bluetooth might be responsible for battery drain. On my g5 plus I turned on my LTE for 5 minutes and it drained 1%. I agree the pixel wallpapers are buggy. I have a sd 625 and it significantly slows down the device and crashes Nova launcher. I think it's best to give the development some time.
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Good luck with your battery life?. I think LG should have stuck with an AMOLED display with the g5 especially if they wanted to have the always on display. With an IPS lcd panel, the backlight will always be on and the time and notifications would be unreadable (I think a led notification light was enough) but I'm glad they decided to use an AMOLED panel with the v30.
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I might have to disagree, Im pretty happy with my ips display and I would take it over amoled anyday even if it means having a lower battery life
And they used OLED panels for the v30 so oled by itself is power efficiency
ExtraDan said:
I might have to disagree, Im pretty happy with my ips display and I would take it over amoled anyday even if it means having a lower battery life
And they used OLED panels for the v30 so oled by itself is power efficiency
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I actually agree. Now looking back the only phone which I used that had an amoled display was my galaxy nexus and now I am kind of glad that my phone has in ips lcd display. One of the advantages is there is no screen burn-in.
dwcasey said:
Nice! Thanks for the tip. I plan on doing this soon, but going to ride out the stock experience for a while.
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Wanted to add that I have Bluetooth on 24/7 with Android Wear & Moto Body connected/running. WiFi is on and connected for about 2.5 hours of the day (mostly at home during morning and evening), but use cellular for most of the day.
Also, just turned on Pixel 2 Live Wallpapers, so pretty sure my battery life is all downhill from here
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-the-pixel-2s-beautiful-live-wallpapers-on-yo-1819507585
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If you want to root later have you tried the power saving mode under settings? have never owned a LG device but I think there's a quick toggle or it's buried somewhere in the battery settings .
DarthMaul14 said:
I actually agree. Now looking back the only phone which I used that had an amoled display was my galaxy nexus and now I am kind of glad that my phone has in ips lcd display. One of the advantages is there is no screen burn-in.
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I know right! The colors are so vibrant and so alive and it worth any sacrifice!
Every picture I take on my phone look so incredible through the display and once I watch my pictures on my computer TN display, it doesn't look as alive and kicking.
Unfortunately i suffer from screen burn in but it's whatever as long as it's not permanent, the display is still amazing! I love colors
I can't wait to have an oled screen, but that will be only in the future, my LG g5 is only recent and oled smartphones are still in their diaper stage, as the oled on the v30 and the iPhone 8 (which is yet still provided by lg) is POlED, which to apple's sayings, it's just an upgraded amoled screen with oled technology
I agree lcd displays ftw. I think you might have image retention and there's a simple fix for that. I believe there are different apps on the play store which will remove most to all of it. Good luck?
Haha yeah, I'm using Blue Filter app, it used to work outstandingly at the first half a year! But it seems to work less better and the ghosting is starting to suppress it, i by of course can higher my setting on the app but I don't want too much of a red/green/grey/yellow screen.. So i just might have to live along it's side!
Oh man. I think a blue light filter is a must. Try this app out. A lot of LG G5 users gave it 5 stars so it's worth a try:laugh:.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
Oh i have it, i have been using it haha
It's just that it's not working as much anymore since my screen burn in got worse
But thank you!
Oh man. You're welcome.

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