Are there any ROMs suitable for un-rooting? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

spiff72 said:
OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207

lacoursiere18 said:
Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!

spiff72 said:
Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..

lacoursiere18 said:
Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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OK. I really don't want to go down the "stock" path and end up with a locked BL - that is why i am looking for alternatives!
Thanks again!

Now I am starting to think that the 4.4 ROMs out there may not be very well suited to the idea of "unrooting".
I have tried a couple of 4.4 ROMs like CM11 and AOKP in the last couple of days, and there seems to be a recurring theme - they all have the Superuser menus built into the settings. Will this be problematic?
I have seen that the SuperSU app does have an unroot option in the settings, but I have read conflicting reports of what this actually does. It sounds like it removes the app, but leaves the binaries behind, and this might be detected by the root detection features in the Maas360 app.

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[Q] Questions about rooting.

I have unrevoked 3 and all the drivers installed on my pc,buy before I try root.
Can I revert back to the original Rom?
What Rom is the best to use and where can I get it?
Is the custom Rom stable?
Can I easily run live wallpaper after root?
Is the phone user friendly after root or will the average person be lost?
Will I still have HTC features such as weather widget etc?
After root can I reinstall HTC sync to update my contacts or is there another method?
Thanks
Woodsytattooman
woodsytattooman said:
I have unrevoked 3 and all the drivers installed on my pc,buy before I try root.
Can I revert back to the original Rom?
What Rom is the best to use and where can I get it?
Is the custom Rom stable?
Can I easily run live wallpaper after root?
Is the phone user friendly after root or will the average person be lost?
Will I still have HTC features such as weather widget etc?
After root can I reinstall HTC sync to update my contacts or is there another method?
Thanks
Woodsytattooman
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1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729404
2 & 3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737213
4 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6953168&postcount=14
5 - its friendly to average users and advanced users.
6 - if you want to root and still have sense, install this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708434
7 - make sure your contacts are backed up just incase anything happens
mattbollenbach said:
6 - if you want to root and still have sense, install this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708434
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Thanks for going through the trouble of linking all the relevant threads. Just to clarify something though, rooting and ROM installation are separate processes. You can root the phone and your stock ROM would still be on the phone allowing you to still use HTC sync.
Thanks so much for the information.Now its just a matter of doing it.I see a lot of people having trouble going back to the stock Rom so I'm not sure I will try it just yet.
ocswing said:
Thanks for going through the trouble of linking all the relevant threads. Just to clarify something though, rooting and ROM installation are separate processes. You can root the phone and your stock ROM would still be on the phone allowing you to still use HTC sync.
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i'm aware they are two separate things. if you go through the process of rooting, it seems like you'd be selling yourself short if you didn't put a different/better rom on the phone.
> I see a lot of people having trouble going back to the stock Rom so I'm not sure I will try it just yet.
if you read the *entire thread* of people having difficulties in going back to stock ROM, see the message and steps I posted which solve the problems.

[Q] ROM with standard camera?

I am completetly new in this with rooting and everything but I thought I would take a shot at it. Now, practically my only need is for the standard camera app to remain, the samsung regular one. What types of ROMs have that built in? I know that the CM10 does not have it, or is there a way to sideload it?
Only Samsung ROMs have the stock Samsung camera app, it'll never work on anything else. If you like the look of pure Google though your best bet is chamelion rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847600) however its only android v 4.0.4 (edit its beta 4.1.2). Its stock Samsung but has aokp features
Hmm, I was rather hoping that the CM10 would work. Then I have a second question. Can I root the standard rom I have and add tweaks, mods, remove useless apps etc?
2oo2 said:
Hmm, I was rather hoping that the CM10 would work. Then I have a second question. Can I root the standard rom I have and add tweaks, mods, remove useless apps etc?
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Yes. Flash Siyah kernel, and search (or try for yourself) for extra settings in Stweaks you can use. To remove apps you can use Titanium Back up.
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Hmm. Well that seems quite good. In what steps do I root and apply the kernel and what is this CWM that everyone is talking about. And everyone suggest that you back up everything with Titanium. Can I do that even without being rooted?
2oo2 said:
Hmm. Well that seems quite good. In what steps do I root and apply the kernel and what is this CWM that everyone is talking about. And everyone suggest that you back up everything with Titanium. Can I do that even without being rooted?
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First read the threads/stickies here and find out the answers to these questions for yourself. Already asked a million times.
And no, you can't use TB without root.
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So what programs are best to use to backup before the whole rooting thing?
2oo2 said:
So what programs are best to use to backup before the whole rooting thing?
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I actually don't think there is any app that workes like TB. If there is (which I doubt), I wouldn't know as I always use TB.
But why would you want such a 'serious' back up if you're not going to flash new roms?
Sent from the Matrix
As I said I'm completely new on this and I've read a few threads and articles about it. I don't know what things will wipe my phone and what won't. I'm still deciding between getting CM10 or SlimBean and use another camera app from Android Market or if I just root the phone...
I will need to compare ProCapture and the Stock Camera app firstly and then decide I think.
2oo2 said:
As I said I'm completely new on this and I've read a few threads and articles about it. I don't know what things will wipe my phone and what won't. I'm still deciding between getting CM10 or SlimBean and use another camera app from Android Market or if I just root the phone...
I will need to compare ProCapture and the Stock Camera app firstly and then decide I think.
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Especially then it's important you search and read a bit more, so you understand what you are doing.
Why not root your phone and flash a Samsung based rom? In that case you have your stock camera, and you can add a lot of tweaks, mods etc. to your phone.
Sent from the Matrix
This will help you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw_za0mQorw) Also the rom I linked to (chameleon) the 4.1.2 will have cyanogenmod features, built on stock Samsung base.

[Q] Alternative to CyanogenMod 11

I've been running CyanogenMod 11 for about a month now. I like it a lot, however there are instabilities. Youtube cannot play videos at all, for example; Snapchat totally fails to work; and one or two apps I've tried to install wouldn't even open. Occasionally a program will crash with a "Such-and such service has stopped" error notice.
Can anyone suggest a more stable ROM? I'm a newbie to flashing, I'm not experienced or interested in trying out different ROMs. I'm not a power user, I just want a stable, reliable ROM. Is cm11 known to have the issues I'm experiencing? Can anyone suggest an alternative?
Thanks.
AidanBell said:
I've been running CyanogenMod 11 for about a month now. I like it a lot, however there are instabilities. Youtube cannot play videos at all, for example; Snapchat totally fails to work; and one or two apps I've tried to install wouldn't even open. Occasionally a program will crash with a "Such-and such service has stopped" error notice.
Can anyone suggest a more stable ROM? I'm a newbie to flashing, I'm not experienced or interested in trying out different ROMs. I'm not a power user, I just want a stable, reliable ROM. Is cm11 known to have the issues I'm experiencing? Can anyone suggest an alternative?
Thanks.
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megalomanic14's MegaFire ROM works great. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608110
AidanBell said:
I've been running CyanogenMod 11 for about a month now. I like it a lot, however there are instabilities. Youtube cannot play videos at all, for example; Snapchat totally fails to work; and one or two apps I've tried to install wouldn't even open. Occasionally a program will crash with a "Such-and such service has stopped" error notice.
Can anyone suggest a more stable ROM? I'm a newbie to flashing, I'm not experienced or interested in trying out different ROMs. I'm not a power user, I just want a stable, reliable ROM. Is cm11 known to have the issues I'm experiencing? Can anyone suggest an alternative?
Thanks.
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Since cm-11.0 for this device is not in nightlies major bugs should be expected. Sorry, I don't have a suggestion, but I have a question. Does the headphone jack work on cm11?
interloper said:
Since cm-11.0 for this device is not in nightlies major bugs should be expected. Sorry, I don't have a suggestion, but I have a question. Does the headphone jack work on cm11?
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Yes, the headphone jack works fine.
I've made the decision to return to the official Samsung ROM, so if anybody could point me in the direction of a safe, reliable download for that I'd be very grateful.
Incidentally, what's "nightlies "?
AidanBell said:
Yes, the headphone jack works fine.
I've made the decision to return to the official Samsung ROM, so if anybody could point me in the direction of a safe, reliable download for that I'd be very grateful.
Incidentally, what's "nightlies "?
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Nightly is the first "Official" status of a device from CM. If the device is very stable, with all system working properly and with minimal buggy behaviors CM begins building the ROM officially as a "Nightly" assuming the dev is following best practices etc.
AidanBell said:
Yes, the headphone jack works fine.
I've made the decision to return to the official Samsung ROM, so if anybody could point me in the direction of a safe, reliable download for that I'd be very grateful.
Incidentally, what's "nightlies "?
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I don't think that anyone has the stock rom for the Mega(s) yet, waiting patiently for the guys upstairs to crack the bootloader.
however you might try to restore with Kies.
Unicorn69 said:
I don't think that anyone has the stock rom for the Mega(s) yet, waiting patiently for the guys upstairs to crack the bootloader.
however you might try to restore with Kies.
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You are not right, I for instance have stock ROM on my Mega and I am quite satisfied... Ohhh, maybe I'm a little lying... :silly: it is MegaFireMj2V5 from megalomanic14 which is based upon a stock ROM but is greatly improved - if you are looking for alternative to stock or CM11 rom's it's worth a shot.
As for return to stock ROM - be careful to choose right version: all new firmware (beginning from CNA1) are 'enhanced' with new bootloader and Samsung KIES which is new security system. If you upgrade your Mega by Kies or by Odin with newest firmware you will be lacked possibility to downgrade AND every attempt to root or flash custom recovery will result in tipping flashing counter without any possibility to clear it. So be extremely cautious if you want to mod your Mega with no problems.
You can choose older firmware on Sammobile an flash it thru Odin - then you will have fresh stock ROM on your unit. There are many tutorials how to do it.
trurl3 said:
You are not right, I for instance have stock ROM on my Mega and I am quite satisfied... Ohhh, maybe I'm a little lying... :silly: it is MegaFireMj2V5 from megalomanic14 which is based upon a stock ROM but is greatly improved - if you are looking for alternative to stock or CM11 rom's it's worth a shot.
As for return to stock ROM - be careful to choose right version: all new firmware (beginning from CNA1) are 'enhanced' with new bootloader and Samsung KIES which is new security system. If you upgrade your Mega by Kies or by Odin with newest firmware you will be lacked possibility to downgrade AND every attempt to root or flash custom recovery will result in tipping flashing counter without any possibility to clear it. So be extremely cautious if you want to mod your Mega with no problems.
You can choose older firmware on Sammobile an flash it thru Odin - then you will have fresh stock ROM on your unit. There are many tutorials how to do it.
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Many thanks, guys.
I've been on Sammobile and selected "I9205XXUCNA2_I9205BTUCNA1_BTU.zip", which I intend to install in the next couple of hours unless anyone on here screams at me that I shouldn't! I'm in the UK with a GT-i9250, so I believe that's the right version for me.
To be honest, I'm not worried about tipping the flashing counter (if I even understand properly what that means). I rooted my phone some time ago, and liked that. Two weeks ago I decided to try Cyanogenmod since I've never used a different ROM. I wasn't impressed, and have decided I want to go back to Samsung original. If, in the process, I prevent myself from ever being able to flash another alternative ROM, or I void the phone's warrenty in any way, I can live with that.
AidanBell said:
Many thanks, guys.
I've been on Sammobile and selected "I9205XXUCNA2_I9205BTUCNA1_BTU.zip", which I intend to install in the next couple of hours unless anyone on here screams at me that I shouldn't! I'm in the UK with a GT-i9250, so I believe that's the right version for me.
To be honest, I'm not worried about tipping the flashing counter (if I even understand properly what that means). I rooted my phone some time ago, and liked that. Two weeks ago I decided to try Cyanogenmod since I've never used a different ROM. I wasn't impressed, and have decided I want to go back to Samsung original. If, in the process, I prevent myself from ever being able to flash another alternative ROM, or I void the phone's warrenty in any way, I can live with that.
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OK, it's your choice... in fact newest firmware do not offer nothing new but bootloder without return and KNOX. CNA2 it's firmware with KNOX embedded. For mundane user this means nothing special, but for somebody who plan to root and mod it could be pain in... Try to read a little about rooting firmware with KNOX... but as I said, you are warned... tipping counter means setting flag which shows to e.g. service so there was installed unofficial software and it means so you are lacking your warranty. With firmware with KNOX this is irreversible because setting such flag physically burns efuse in system making hardware change. Cheers...
I stay on firmware without KNOX because of possibility to change ROMs and easy install custom software. Waiting for KK which for sure will have 'new type' bootloader and then will be no choice...
trurl3 said:
OK, it's your choice... in fact newest firmware do not offer nothing new but bootloder without return and KNOX. CNA2 it's firmware with KNOX embedded. For mundane user this means nothing special, but for somebody who plan to root and mod it could be pain in... Try to read a little about rooting firmware with KNOX... but as I said, you are warned... tipping counter means setting flag which shows to e.g. service so there was installed unofficial software and it means so you are lacking your warranty. With firmware with KNOX this is irreversible because setting such flag physically burns efuse in system making hardware change. Cheers...
I stay on firmware without KNOX because of possibility to change ROMs and easy install custom software. Waiting for KK which for sure will have 'new type' bootloader and then will be no choice...
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You make a good case, and perhaps I should install an earlier version, then. Thanks. However, I've looked on Sammobile and they seem to offer only the latest version. Where can I download an earlier KNOX-free version, please?
trurl3 said:
OK, it's your choice... in fact newest firmware do not offer nothing new but bootloder without return and KNOX. CNA2 it's firmware with KNOX embedded. For mundane user this means nothing special, but for somebody who plan to root and mod it could be pain in... Try to read a little about rooting firmware with KNOX... but as I said, you are warned... tipping counter means setting flag which shows to e.g. service so there was installed unofficial software and it means so you are lacking your warranty. With firmware with KNOX this is irreversible because setting such flag physically burns efuse in system making hardware change. Cheers...
I stay on firmware without KNOX because of possibility to change ROMs and easy install custom software. Waiting for KK which for sure will have 'new type' bootloader and then will be no choice...
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Like you,i still stay on old firmware,new firmware have knox,knox make your phone brick if you root.
rizky123 said:
Like you,i still stay on old firmware,new firmware have knox,knox make your phone brick if you root.
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Agreed. You guys have convinced me that I should be flashing an old version of Samsung, not the latest with KNOX. But I can only do that if I can find one! Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
AidanBell said:
You make a good case, and perhaps I should install an earlier version, then. Thanks. However, I've looked on Sammobile and they seem to offer only the latest version. Where can I download an earlier KNOX-free version, please?
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Hmmm, you are right... In such case i recommend you to install custom ROM MegaFireMJ2V6 made by megalomanic14 on basis stock MJ2 which you can find HERE.
Actually I am using this ROM and can say it is very good - looks like stock but is much faster. It's rooted already. Version X offer firmware stripped from unneeded apps to the extent.
trurl3 said:
Hmmm, you are right... In such case i recommend you to install custom ROM MegaFireMJ2V6 made by megalomanic14 on basis stock MJ2 which you can find HERE.
Actually I am using this ROM and can say it is very good - looks like stock but is much faster. It's rooted already. Version X offer firmware stripped from unneeded apps to the extent.
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Thank you very much. Most of that sentences was Greek to me, but I get the idea! The truth is, I put my foot into the water of flashing custom ROMS, and decided it wasn't for me. I just want one, reliable ROM that I can live with for many months without having to change it. That's why I decided to go back to Samsung, because there were too many bugs in Cyanogenmod and I don't want to start testing one ROM after the next. I just want to install a reliable, bug-free ROM now, and have done with it. So you think that MegaFireMJ2V6 would be such a ROM in my case?
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It seems MegaFireMJ2V6 can't be downloaded from that link anyway?
Type your phone model in the link below and choose the one you want. Create a free account if you need faster download speeds.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
Silesh.Nair said:
Type your phone model in the link below and choose the one you want. Create a free account if you need faster download speeds.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
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Thank you, but I've tried this several times, and the only download available is the most recent.
You are wrong. It shows all the firmwares released for a model. I can see all the releases for GT-I9200. Attached is a screenshot of the older firmware without knox....
As far as I understand it, these are all the same ROM, simply different versions for different countries. When I put in my phone, GT-i9250, I am presented with a similar page, but it's only the one ROM; 4.2.2 with KNOX.
Ok man, I am done trying to explain things to you. The list you showed only displays Knox firmware, but what you said is not true. Here is another site with older firmware displayed for the I9205. There is no I9250 model Mega afaik..
Silesh.Nair said:
Ok man, I am done trying to explain things to you. The list you showed only displays Knox firmware, but what you said is not true. Here is another site with older firmware displayed for the I9205. There is no I9250 model Mega afaik..
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I apologise if I have offended you in any way, that certainly wasn't my intention. I'm simply new to all of this and don't understand it well. I appreciate the new link, and thank you for your help.

[Q] Best way to get updates and keep root (new to this phone)

So I've had the phone for less than a week. I've performed the ioroot procedure and installed twrp. Other than that, the phone is stock right now - 10B. I've performed a backup.
My phone is offering to install 11C. I'd like to update to that version, but at a glance it seems like there may be issues if I ever need to downgrade, or.. I may lose root.
So, for our specific phone, the VS985 model, what is the best way to upgrade to the latest stock ROM and keep root / the ability to downgrade?
Sorry for the noob question, but I'm new to the phone and am seeing some conflicting information, probably due to variances between different versions of the phone. I just want to do this right the first time and avoid having to ask more dumb questions
Look for the thread by bweN diorD in either General or Q&A that starts with [REF] and has img or images in the title.
Use the links in that thread to flash the 12b modem and system images, using autoprime's flash2Modem and flash2System zips (bweN links to that thread).
Your choice on whether you also want to flash the 12b boot image. I did flash the 11c boot, didn't bother with 12b.
After flashing the new images, anything you've tweaked in /system has to be re-nudged -- freezing verizon bloat, freezing "System updates..." (or renaming the /system/app LGDMSClient files), reinstalling the hotspot mod (if you need it). It's a pretty painless evolution.
(Definitely freeze System updates.... Once you've got twrp, if you try to install an OTA directly you'll get stuck in a boot-to-recovery problem. Autoprime has a flashable zip that wipes out the files causing the boot-to-recovery, I keep a copy of that zip loaded on my phone's user volume, but it's simpler to just not try to install an OTA.)
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
NegativeOne said:
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
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There is no downside to flashing it at this point, but I haven't seen proof there is any benefit either. I'm still on 10b running L ROMs no problem, so I don't see any point in updating anything but the modem.
Sent from my G3, rockin Illusion
Which rom are you using?
Look down lol
Sent from my G3, rockin Illusion
You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
Schaweet said:
You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
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im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
bweN diorD said:
im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
Schaweet said:
Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
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the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
bweN diorD said:
the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
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You're right for sure. It's all personal preference. I figure if the only thing that looks different from stock is the settings menu and not having the quick settings tiles, I'm close enough that I'm not bothered by all the LG colors and added stuff.
I'm waiting for the camera app to get ported then I'm all in on a custom 5.0.x rom. That may be a while, but I can wait.
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
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For anyone reading this, I just wanted to let them know that there is a ported version of Quick Remote that works under AOSP / CM including Lollipop. I think it's in the non-variant G3 sections.
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Thank you for this thread. Honestly this should be Pinned, I am an extremely saavy/experienced Android user and XDA forum member, and I could not believe how long it took me to find this sort of info for such a popular phone.
This is my first LG phone, and I'm having to learn all the LG and Gseries specific "stuff". The info above was invaluable. :good:

Want to Install rom based on Lollipop, could use some guidance.

Hello everyone,
SO I have the Verizon Galaxy S4, Model NUmber SCH-I545
As the title states, I want to try to install a custom ROM, one based on Lollipop, but I've never done anything like this before, and am concerned with certain things:
1 - Are there even many ROMs based on Lollipop that are stable, and wont be a hassle/annoyance?
2 - I've never flashed a ROM before, am not familiar with the process and have heard bad things about Verizon Samsung phones when it comes to these type of things.
I will give you guys all the info I can though.
First off, I AM rooted. I rooted my S4 using towelroot. It was scary easy. Downloaded towelroot from phone browser, let it do its thing. Checked with root checker, then downloaded SuperSU and Titanium Backup, Greenify etc. Thats all Ive done with root.
So what this means is that everything else on my phone is completely stock. Besides the fact that I am rooted by means of towelroot, and I use a Nova launcher, not TouchWiz plus other aesthetic stuff like a custom icon theme (which I doubt matters here), everything on the phone is completely stock.
I did kinda mess around with deleting some verizon bloatware with titanium backup though. Honestly cant remember what I deleted, I just remember I was pretty careful about downloading pre installed apps that I never used, like amazon services and verizon services, no android system things. Phone works fine. Except that there has been a Verizon software update that just will not work no matter what I do. It doesnt give me a detailed enough error message to find out what the problem is. I think it is a verizon update and not an android update. It will boot into recovery and look like the update works, but the progress bar stops and update always fails. This has been present for months now at this point.
So, with this information, what should I do if I want to install say, the CyanogenMod 12 nightly build for the Verizon galaxy s4? Is installing this rom worth it? Ive heard nightly builds can be annoying and buggy. I dont really want that, but would like Lollipop, or at least would like to try CyanogenMod. I think CM 10.2 based off Jelly Bean is the most recent that is deemed "stable" for the verizon S4.
Im sorry for the length of this post, but please, if someone could hold my hand and baby me through this I would appreciate it so much.
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from someone.
You can, it depends on what buildnumber/bootloader you have.
If you are running the MDK build of android (settings --> about device --> build number --> last few letters/numbers) then you can flash any rom made for the S4, but you will have to use the Loki exploit found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292157 . If you are running the latest version (NC5, NJ6, NK1) then you have to use Safestrap as your custom recovery found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56030788&postcount=2281 . You can't flash any lollipop ROMS using safestrap, unfortunately.
Oh i see. Well i just checked my phone and it is one of the builds that requires safestrap like you said. Is it possible to install the MDK?
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If you are running the MDK build of android (settings --> about device --> build number --> last few letters/numbers) then you can flash any rom made for the S4, but you will have to use the Loki exploit found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292157 . If you are running the latest version (NC5, NJ6, NK1) then you have to use Safestrap as your custom recovery found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56030788&postcount=2281 . You can't flash any lollipop ROMS using safestrap, unfortunately.
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Oh i see. Well i just checked my phone and it is one of the builds that requires safestrap like you said. Is it possible to install the MDK?
People are working on an exploit which allows you to install MDK but as of now there is no way
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People are working on an exploit which allows you to install MDK but as of now there is no way
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Oh ok, well alright thanks. Hopefully this will be possible soon. If it takes long enough my contract is up so ill just get a new phone

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