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I rooted my T-Bolt using the Mac method described on Android Central Forums. I've been running the stock ROM and Kernel. I'm only going to do one custom install of a ROM and Kernel. I really hate having to keep up with the latest and greatest. Having to wipe every time and re-install everything.
I'd like recommendations on what ROM and Kernel to install and how to do it. I am tech savvy but have not been keeping up with what's going on in the Android rooting world. I am starting a new career next week and would like to get my T-Bolt set up now and forget about it.
I originally rooted my D1 so I could wireless tether but service was horrible. If I can still take advantage of wireless tether without any repercussions from VZW I'll stay rooted and do that. The only benefit I'm getting right now being rooted is Set CPU to help with my battery life.
So, I'd appreciate any help you guys can give me on this.
Thanks!
look here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027706
Still have no clue nor the time.
Can I let the OTA update over root and just not worry about it anymore?
P7M8 said:
Still have no clue nor the time.
Can I let the OTA update over root and just not worry about it anymore?
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Do not OTA over root! It is all over the forums and will mess up your phone if you do that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13606062&postcount=2557
To install the update while rooted, follow that link. He also installing BAMF remix 1.6.3 which is the ROM that I am running. It is also my first ROM, and I picked it because it is a stable ROM, and I have yet to get a reboot after 4 days of using it.
The guys in that forum are really good about answering questions, but most of my noob questions were answered already. Don't forget that you can search inside a thread--that one is over 300 pages long.
Sorry, I forgot the Kernal: I am using this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404 It is also really stable and also sports a really good battery life, while keeping the phone snappy. Amazing work!
Do you have Titanium Backup and ROM manager? I believe that ROM manager also install ClockWork Mod Recovery, which you are going to need.
I would get the paid version of Titanium, and do a batch backup of your apps and system data so you don't lose all of your app data when you install the new radio and ROM.
Hello,
I'm really confused should I root my phone or not, I want to have apps like titanium backup, juice defender, screen cast etc. But on the other side I don't want to lose my warranty. So I created some questions that you can answer me to help me decide.
Why should I root?
Is it worth it for some apps?
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom?
Is it hard to do?
Should I install a custom rom ?
Is there any way getting back your warranty?
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week?
Any good guides?
What to do if I brick my phone?
Will I still have all apps?
What are the pro's and con's?
Any more information I need please post.
Hit the Thanks button!
I think you can simplify the questions by asking yourself whether you think you are someone who likes to tinker with their phone and get under the hood a little, or whether you are generally happy with how it's working now and merely curious what all the fuss is about?
You may conclude from either question that rooting is worth a try. It's probably a good idea to have at least a good reason to (such as wanting to install a root-only app like AdAway or having a custom recovery like TeamWin or ClockWork Mod for backups and such, or for installing one of the cool ROMs we have available in these forums).
I was apprehensive the first time I rooted, but now I can't imagine running my phone without it. Especially thanks to the custom ROMs we have here and the many mods and apps that require root/busybox/init.d etc to run. That said, I wouldn't advise rooting to someone else unless they were comfortable with the notion that they might not be covered under warranty anymore, and would have to rely on their own and this community to deal with any problems they might encounter. You can get your phone back to stock ROM and unrooted, with a locked bootloader but I believe it will still indicate at the bootloader that you 'relocked' it, so your provider can tell that it was tampered with and may decide that that's a good enough reason not to honor your warranty. Proceed at your own risk.
As far as the details, no it's not very difficult to root your phone. You need to be marginally competent at running some software on your PC and follow the tutorials available here. There's this tool which makes things very easy, and there's also nloooo's tutorial here if you want to do it more manually which is helpful in learning some of the basics of using adb commands and getting your PC to talk to your phone, etc.
If you follow the instructions in the tutorials you shouldn't brick your phone. You just need to be mindful of what you are doing and don't do silly things like pull the USB cable while it's sending files to your phone. Even then, there's usually ways to recover from those situations. It's hard to actually brick the phone.
Backup your phone, often!
Hope that goes someways towards answering your questions. Good luck!
Reason to root for me:
Adaway - to remove ads temporarily
Sixaxis - to play games with ps3 controller
BetterBatteryStats - to check what prevents deep sleep such as alarms etc
Titanium backup - to backup my stuff just incase something happening to my phone
That's it. If you don't need this I don't think you need to root at all.
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@ dxarch
Why should I root? Ans: Please google. You will get ample number of example why you have to root your phone.
Is it worth it for some apps? Ans: Yes. Most of the apps which benefits need root access.
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom? Ans: You can not install custom rom without having Root access.
Is it hard to do? Ans: Depends on your knowledge. If you follow the processes mentioned in this forum, should not be an issue.
Should I install a custom rom ? Ans: Again your choice. I will prefer to go for Custom ROMs.
Is there any way getting back your warranty? Ans: No, I do not think so.
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week? Ans: That does not matter. I rooted my phone once I came back with my phone from showroom.
Any good guides? Ans: It is available in the forum. Please search.
What to do if I brick my phone? Ans: First you should not face any issues following the guide here. If still bricked then your bad. I have not bricked till days, where I am having very less knowledge in android. Take always backup before doing something unknown.
Will I still have all apps? Ans: Rooting does not delete any apps. You will get the power to delete bloatware and install so many apps those need root.
What are the pro's and con's? Ans: Please refer answer 1.
Any more information I need please post. Ans: Please check this forum. Everything is there..
Hit the Thanks button! Ans: Sorry I can not becoz I am helping you so I should get thanks from you. :laugh:
Best of luck..Gain some knowledge before going ahead with root that will give you more confidence.
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@ dxarch
Hit the Thanks button! Ans: Sorry I can not becoz I am helping you so I should get thanks from you. :laugh:
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The "Hit the Thanks button!" is actually my taptalk signature but no problem...
dxarch said:
The "Hit the Thanks button!" is actually my taptalk signature but no problem...
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No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
KSKHH said:
No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
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Exactly, I rooted every phone I had except this one. I don't have money for a new one and I'm completely satisfied of the function and look (changed everything what I can without root) so it's only up to you if you want a new Rom or root based apps..
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KSKHH said:
No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
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What!? I didn't know if i brick it i can't use it anymore. As far as I know you can use a recover.img or RUU... but I'm just a n00b
dxarch said:
What!? I didn't know if i brick it i can't use it anymore. As far as I know you can use a recover.img or RUU... but I'm just a n00b
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Depends on how you bricked it. And if you can flash a recovery.img or RUU, it's not a real brick.
But about the rooting:
I've rooted every device I owned + lots of other devices. It's surely worth it. ROMs make the device so much smoother, and when using atis112's kernel, you'll get the most out of your device. It also removes bloatware, and allows full theming. I don't see any problem with it, except the OTA's. But that's not that hard, you can flash the stock recovery/RUU, and you'll get them back.
In my experience, there's a really small chance of bricking your phone.It's a safe method.
new to rooting
dxarch said:
Hello,
I'm really confused should I root my phone or not, I want to have apps like titanium backup, juice defender, screen cast etc. But on the other side I don't want to lose my warranty. So I created some questions that you can answer me to help me decide.
Why should I root?
Is it worth it for some apps?
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom?
Is it hard to do?
Should I install a custom rom ?
Is there any way getting back your warranty?
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week?
Any good guides?
What to do if I brick my phone?
Will I still have all apps?
What are the pro's and con's?
Any more information I need please post.
Hit the Thanks button!
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I own Desire X.
May be i am very late in replying but i ll try to answer some of ur questions.
I am new to rooting scene so in case of any wrong information, please correct me.
I will share my experience.
I rooted the phone coz i wanted access to limit my startup items. In addition, rooted phone can give u access to ur device completely.
Tutorial made by nloooo is awesome, otherwise its better you follow the tutorial specifically made by the developer of the product.
TWRP recovery is cool and serves the purpose.
I tried Elegencia ROM and now i am using mySENSE-dx_RC3.0. I really hate all the bloatware in my phone which is te main reason for installing ROM.
Going back to custom ROM is easy (i think), for that u need to have a full backup of ur system in TWRP.
Going to ctock ROM is a bit difficult using RUU as stock ROM in RUU need compatible CID of your phone.
Both these ROMs i mentioned above are are awesome and u can choose any one depending on ur needs. Advantages of Elegencia are that you can choose which software to install through aroma installer while installing ROM. Its light, flawless and cool.
Why i chose mySENSE-dx_RC3.0 is that i really loved Full Sense as compared ti sense lite in stock as well as Elegencia ROM.
Hey folks.
The S4 is my first smartphone. Ever. I rooted it a few weeks ago and have been playing with different tools and utilities. I love the extra control it gives me.
Been using Smartlauncher Pro as my launcher as well, but it doesn't give me the customization I want. I dig the UI though, it's minimalist just the way I like.
I've been keeping my eye out for ROM's I can try out, and I think I want to try Cynogen for the S4. However, I am terrified of destroying my investment. I've read horror stories of flashes gone wrong... I don't want to permanently brick my device.
Is there anyone here who can hold my hand while I install my ROM? I seriously have no idea what I'm doing, instructions or no.
...I sound so pathetic right now.
Thanks folks.
shaddz said:
Hey folks.
The S4 is my first smartphone. Ever. I rooted it a few weeks ago and have been playing with different tools and utilities. I love the extra control it gives me.
Been using Smartlauncher Pro as my launcher as well, but it doesn't give me the customization I want. I dig the UI though, it's minimalist just the way I like.
I've been keeping my eye out for ROM's I can try out, and I think I want to try Cynogen for the S4. However, I am terrified of destroying my investment. I've read horror stories of flashes gone wrong... I don't want to permanently brick my device.
Is there anyone here who can hold my hand while I install my ROM? I seriously have no idea what I'm doing, instructions or no.
...I sound so pathetic right now.
Thanks folks.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed like TWRP or CWM? If you do all you need to do is download the rom (I put them on ext sd)....and gapps if your flashing cyanogen, boot into recovery, make a backup (I put this on my ext sd card too), wipe, flash rom, flash gapps and reboot.
shaddz said:
Hey folks.
The S4 is my first smartphone. Ever. I rooted it a few weeks ago and have been playing with different tools and utilities. I love the extra control it gives me.
Been using Smartlauncher Pro as my launcher as well, but it doesn't give me the customization I want. I dig the UI though, it's minimalist just the way I like.
I've been keeping my eye out for ROM's I can try out, and I think I want to try Cynogen for the S4. However, I am terrified of destroying my investment. I've read horror stories of flashes gone wrong... I don't want to permanently brick my device.
Is there anyone here who can hold my hand while I install my ROM? I seriously have no idea what I'm doing, instructions or no.
...I sound so pathetic right now.
Thanks folks.
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Hi!
The first thing you need to find out is what build number you have. This will tell you if you are able to root and install recovery in order to put a new rom on the phone. Do NOT update your phone by the over the air update that is currently available! To find your build number go to settings: the more tab: about phone, then scroll down. If you have JDQ39.I545VRUAME7 then you are in the same boat as many of us and accidently did the upgrade which at this moment has no way to root. If you haven't done the upgrade than you need to find one of the many threads on here that will walk you through the process.
Hope this helps some, there are others on here that can give you a much more detailed walkthrough of how to root if you are on the correct older build.
The best advice I can give is to read the entire original post (OP) for the ROM you like, and as much of the thread as you can. 9 times out of 10 when someone has a problem with the ROM it's been discussed, and is often listed in the OP. Usually there are step by step instructions on installing the ROM. I believe there's a general ROM flashing guide in this forum somewhere as well.
Good luck and have fun :good:
Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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shaddz said:
Hey folks.
The S4 is my first smartphone. Ever. I rooted it a few weeks ago and have been playing with different tools and utilities. I love the extra control it gives me.
Been using Smartlauncher Pro as my launcher as well, but it doesn't give me the customization I want. I dig the UI though, it's minimalist just the way I like.
I've been keeping my eye out for ROM's I can try out, and I think I want to try Cynogen for the S4. However, I am terrified of destroying my investment. I've read horror stories of flashes gone wrong... I don't want to permanently brick my device.
Is there anyone here who can hold my hand while I install my ROM? I seriously have no idea what I'm doing, instructions or no.
...I sound so pathetic right now.
Thanks folks.
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You need to start reading, period.
srphoenix said:
Hi!
The first thing you need to find out is what build number you have. This will tell you if you are able to root and install recovery in order to put a new rom on the phone. Do NOT update your phone by the over the air update that is currently available! To find your build number go to settings: the more tab: about phone, then scroll down. If you have JDQ39.I545VRUAME7 then you are in the same boat as many of us and accidently did the upgrade which at this moment has no way to root. If you haven't done the upgrade than you need to find one of the many threads on here that will walk you through the process.
Hope this helps some, there are others on here that can give you a much more detailed walkthrough of how to root if you are on the correct older build.
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JDQ39.I545VRUAMDK is the version I have. I froze the updater using Titanium a couple weeks ago... And my phone is already rooted.
shaddz said:
JDQ39.I545VRUAMDK is the version I have. I froze the updater using Titanium a couple weeks ago... And my phone is already rooted.
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That's good! You haven't been updated which means you can still flash ROMs. Are you familiar with both types of ROMs, TouchWiz and AOSP? CyanogenMod is an AOSP ROM, which will be completely different from what you're running right now, TouchWiz. You're rooted, but have you installed a custom recovery? You need one to flash ROM's, either TWRP or CWM. You can also make a nandroid backup in recovery, and if anything goes wrong, you can go back to exactly how you are now. Definitely read the OP of the ROM thread multiple times and follow the flashing instructions correctly.
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That's good! You haven't been updated which means you can still flash ROMs. Are you familiar with both types of ROMs, TouchWiz and AOSP? CyanogenMod is an AOSP ROM, which will be completely different from what you're running right now, TouchWiz. You're rooted, but have you installed a custom recovery? You need one to flash ROM's, either TWRP or CWM. You can also make a nandroid backup in recovery, and if anything goes wrong, you can go back to exactly how you are now. Definitely read the OP of the ROM thread multiple times and follow the flashing instructions correctly.
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Okay, I just made a full phone backup using GooManager/TWRP.
Now for the next step...
shaddz said:
Okay, I just made a full phone backup using GooManager/TWRP.
Now for the next step...
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If anything goes wrong with the flash in the next step, go to restore and you'll be back to how you are now.
Did you download the ROM to your phone along with Gapps? For AOSP Roms you need a separate gapps package, which is Google apps.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
thesoldier said:
If anything goes wrong with the flash in the next step, go to restore and you'll be back to how you are now.
Did you download the ROM to your phone along with Gapps? For AOSP Roms you need a separate gapps package, which is Google apps.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I just started the download for gapps package using Goomanager.
I checked out the Cyanogenmod site, apparently there's no stable versions for the VZW GS4?
Oh wells, flash anyway! That's what I do!
Worst case scenario, you have to use Odin to get back to stock. I used to keep a nandroid on my PC for just in case scenarios as well. One time on my GNex I flashed something really bad and had to adb pull everything off my phone, wipe the whole thing, and start over.
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jova33 said:
Oh wells, flash anyway! That's what I do!
Worst case scenario, you have to use Odin to get back to stock. I used to keep a nandroid on my PC for just in case scenarios as well. One time on my GNex I flashed something really bad and had to adb pull everything off my phone, wipe the whole thing, and start over.
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Downloading the most recent nightly.
What do I do to get it on here?
shaddz said:
Downloading the most recent nightly.
What do I do to get it on here?
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Yeah you'll have to download a nightly, I don't think there are any stable versions out yet. Are you downloading it directly on your phone? Or on your PC?
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Thread cleaned of useless comments.
Thread is also closed - as XDA, even though full of helpful and nice people, is not a direct support site.
Users are expected to do some reading before they post and blatantly ask for hand holding. And, as you have seen, other users have a tendency to not be so nice and make trolling comments because of that.
This is a development site and is about development - so, please, study up first, then post questions based from what you have learned.
Hello,
I would like to Root my S II and I have some questions before I do it:
If I install a ROM, do I really have to factory reset before that? If yes, why? and Can I back up all application data easly?
Can I remove the TouchWiz home and get the google's stock one?
What can "brick" my phone?
How big danger risk does it have?
Is it worth it?
I hope I get answers to these questions.
1) Yes. Because previous rom installations can often leave behind stuff that won't play nice with your new rom. Always do a wipe when moving from a TW rom to an AOSP rom & vice versa, always do a wipe when going from one Android version to another. Always do a wipe if the flashing instructions for a particular rom say do a wipe.
Yes, backup your application data with Titanium Backup Pro (but not system apps/data). You can also use Ti to backup call logs & SMS's.
2) If you mean launchers, you can use whatever launchers are compatible with the rom you're wanting to use. This will vary; look/ask in the thread devoted to the rom.
3) Any flash (either Odin or CWM) has the potential to brick your phone. If you
ensure you know what you're doing before you do it, the risk for any individual flash is very very small. You cannot completely remove this risk.
4) I answered this in 3.
5) If you're asking 'is it worth it (rooting) ?, you should be first asking yourself the question 'Why do I want to root my phone ?' If you can't answer that question, the risks involved may not be worth it, because that shows you don't really know what you're doing at this point. Don't do anything to your phone until you do know exactly what you're doing. Ignoring this tends to lead to busted phones. And I've seen probably thousands on here over the past 2 & a bit yrs.
If you really can't answer the question or you find all the guides/tutorials on here too hard, I'd suggest you leave your phone stock. 'Because it's cool' isn't really much of an answer (there's nothing cool about it; technically speaking, it's rather boring).
Now then, if you're up for a lot of reading & learning, there are threads stickied near the top of Q&A & also an index of guides/tutorials stickied near the top of General you should be reading.
MistahBungle said:
1) Yes. Because previous rom installations can often leave behind stuff that won't play nice with your new rom. Always do a wipe when moving from a TW rom to an AOSP rom & vice versa, always do a wipe when going from one Android version to another. Always do a wipe if the flashing instructions for a particular rom say do a wipe.
Yes, backup your application data with Titanium Backup Pro (but not system apps/data). You can also use Ti to backup call logs & SMS's.
2) If you mean launchers, you can use whatever launchers are compatible with the rom you're wanting to use. This will vary; look/ask in the thread devoted to the rom.
5) If you're asking 'is it worth it (rooting) ?, you should be first asking yourself the question 'Why do I want to root my phone ?' If you can't answer that question, the risks involved may not be worth it, because that shows you don't really know what you're doing at this point. Don't do anything to your phone until you do know exactly what you're doing. Ignoring this tends to lead to busted phones. And I've seen probably thousands on here over the past 2 & a bit yrs.
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Thanks!
1) Doesn't Titanium Backup cost? Can It backup anything else that app data and call logs?
2) I don't mean launchers (avaivable from google play) really, Those drain battery faster (I think). I want to remove TouchWiz and get the google's stock launcher, style, everything.
5) That was a joke question. I should know it myself.
tonkku107 said:
Thanks!
1) Doesn't Titanium Backup cost? Can It backup anything else that app data and call logs?
2) I don't mean launchers (avaivable from google play) really, Those drain battery faster (I think). I want to remove TouchWiz and get the google's stock launcher, style, everything.
5) That was a joke question. I should know it myself.
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1) You can use the free version as well, although there are missing features in there.
2) If you want to get rid of Touchwiz, use a non-Samsung-based rom, or have a look for Chameleon rom.
Donnie Sins said:
1) You can use the free version as well, although there are missing features in there.
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What features are missing?
tonkku107 said:
What features are missing?
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Use super back app for backing app call logs , contacts ,message ..
Very handy imo
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tonkku107 said:
What features are missing?
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Just read the info in the Play Store. I'm not the developer
Thanks everyone for replying!
I would like to know what rooting guide worked for you. (best)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 I want to know for sure is that REALLY a good quide.
and was that ClockWorkMod to overclock, or what was it?
1) clockworkmod is not used to over clock your ROM.....that is controlled by a custom kernel.
2) the rooting method in your link is how I rooted my phone when I was on stock ICS......There *may* be a risk when using that method....basically you DON'T want to do any cwm wiping after using this method to root until you have flashed a custom kernel on top of it. Search for and read about "emmc brickbug" to find out why.
3) Titanium Backup is one of the most useful apps that anybody running a rooted phone can buy......TOTALLY worth the pocket change to get it......
once you're rooted and running your 1st cusROM, you'll get bitten by the modding bug very quickly and then TiBu will come into its own......
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
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1) clockworkmod is not used to over clock your ROM.....that is controlled by a custom kernel.
2) the rooting method in your link is how I rooted my phone when I was on stock ICS......There *may* be a risk when using that method....basically you DON'T want to do any cwm wiping after using this method to root until you have flashed a custom kernel on top of it. Search for and read about "emmc brickbug" to find out why.
3) Titanium Backup is one of the most useful apps that anybody running a rooted phone can buy......TOTALLY worth the pocket change to get it......
once you're rooted and running your 1st cusROM, you'll get bitten by the modding bug very quickly and then TiBu will come into its own......
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
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modding bug? And, I should root, install a custom rom, and then I can/need to wipe?
If you use your linked method to root, you'll have a 'temporary' CWM that some say it'd be best NOT to use for wiping......
You need to do things in this order.....
1) root your phone with the method in your link.
2) install a custom kernel zip using the temporary CWM installed at stage 1.
3) use the permanent CWM that will be installed at stage 2 to do the wipes.(VERY important when moving from stock to custom).
4) use CWM to flash your chosen ROM.
You can bypass steps 1 & 2 by simply using Odin to directly flash the custom kernel.......the choice is yours.....
The most popular custom kernels are siyah or dorimanx.....it shouldn't matter too much which one you choose as it'll be overwritten when you flash the ROM.....flashing the kernel is just a 'means to an end'......
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
keithross39 said:
If you use your linked method to root, you'll have a 'temporary' CWM that some say it'd be best NOT to use for wiping......
You need to do things in this order.....
1) root your phone with the method in your link.
2) install a custom kernel zip using the temporary CWM installed at stage 1.
3) use the permanent CWM that will be installed at stage 2 to do the wipes.(VERY important when moving from stock to custom).
4) use CWM to flash your chosen ROM.
You can bypass steps 1 & 2 by simply using Odin to directly flash the custom kernel.......the choice is yours.....
The most popular custom kernels are siyah or dorimanx.....it shouldn't matter too much which one you choose as it'll be overwritten when you flash the ROM.....flashing the kernel is just a 'means to an end'......
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
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Just to make sure I got it: I do that everything on the same time on recovery mode without booting my phone? (does it even matter)
I found this guide with odin: http://technoxone.com/mobile/android/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s2-i9100-easy-steps Is it safer?
Is a Custom "OS" a kernel? Witch of those did you take?
Again questions... I must ask questions in case I do something wrong...
Don't worry about asking questions........it's better to ask and get it right than to NOT ask and turn your phone into a paperweight. I don't mind answering questions if you're prepared to search, read and learn as well.
The kernel can be installed separately to the OS......while most custom ROMs include a kernel with the package, the kernel in itself is a separate part of the software.....in simple terms, the kernel is what allows the hardware to talk to the OS......it's what makes the phone/OS do what you want when you touch the screen.
With regards to the link in your last post, having read some of the comments, there seems to be some 'worry' about the compatibility of the kernel download that the author provides for use. Another point to think about.......
XDA is the primary source for information and tools in the Android community. Most other websites get their information here, and some don't display/use it correctly.....some time ago, I saw a number of threads where people said they'd followed the instructions on another website and ended up with bricked phones.......
There are guides 'stickeyed' at the top of the various S2 sections here on XDA that tell you EVERYTHING you need to know......take a look and find out the info you need.....right here.....
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
keithross39 said:
Don't worry about asking questions........it's better to ask and get it right than to NOT ask and turn your phone into a paperweight. I don't mind answering questions if you're prepared to search, read and learn as well.
The kernel can be installed separately to the OS......while most custom ROMs include a kernel with the package, the kernel in itself is a separate part of the software.....in simple terms, the kernel is what allows the hardware to talk to the OS......it's what makes the phone/OS do what you want when you touch the screen.
With regards to the link in your last post, having read some of the comments, there seems to be some 'worry' about the compatibility of the kernel download that the author provides for use. Another point to think about.......
XDA is the primary source for information and tools in the Android community. Most other websites get their information here, and some don't display/use it correctly.....some time ago, I saw a number of threads where people said they'd followed the instructions on another website and ended up with bricked phones.......
There are guides 'stickeyed' at the top of the various S2 sections here on XDA that tell you EVERYTHING you need to know......take a look and find out the info you need.....right here.....
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
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ok, so the chameleon OS that Donnie Sins told about has a custom kernel? Do you know better custom roms than chameleon?
I'm going to go read EVERYTHING I need to know...... right here.......
Yes.... Chameleon (the same as any other custom ROM has a custom kernel) it won't be as heavily customized as some are.....chameleon ROM is a 'hybrid' ROM..... that is to say it is a stock based ROM with custom tweaks and modifications included........
Some custom kernels will allow things like under volting and overclocking and a whole host of other 'non standard' functions.....
This might be my S2 or it might be my W, but it's definitely CM...
I want to post this in the development forum but I can't since this is a new account. So, I want to ask does this rooting method ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065581 ) work for JB stock rom I9100GDXLS2 on my GT-19100G?
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Some custom kernels will allow things like under volting and overclocking and a whole host of other 'non standard' functions.....
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what custom kernels have those?
And you didn't answer to this?:
tonkku107 said:
Just to make sure I got it: I do that everything on the same time on recovery mode without booting my phone? (does it even matter)
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[A]zan said:
I want to post this in the development forum but I can't since this is a new account. So, I want to ask does this rooting method ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065581 ) work for JB stock rom I9100GDXLS2 on my GT-19100G?
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Doesn't any rooting method support any rom?
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Doesn't any rooting method support any rom?
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Well, I don't really know the flexibility of the other rooting method. But, this method, I've read some post that it does not work with some stock rom.
Hellooo...
Should I also install gapps?
What's the thing to overclock?
Can someone link a rooting method with odin if it's more stable?
And please answer the questions a bit on top
OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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OK - this is probably a strange question, but I am coming face to face with MaaS360 soon with the company I work for. Basically any rooted phones are going to be cut off from corporate email. I understand that there may be ways around this, but I just don't have the energy to try and work around this.
So my question is - are there any ROMs that might be well suited to be un-rooted and still function correctly? I understand that there are going to be some apps that will no longer work, but I am trying to find one that doesn't have deeply embedded features that would depend on root. I also don't want to go completely stock - since I know that this may lock the bootloader.
I have been running Sophisticated, but I did like some of the 4.4-based ROMs like SlimKat, AOKP, and CM11. Would any of the 4.4 ROMs (non-touchwiz) be "unrootable"? And is this process reversible? Can I re-root later if needed? Can the bootloader remain unlocked while the ROM is not rooted?
Part of me thinks - just get an unlocked MotoX and stop all this flashing business...(blasphemy - I know!)
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
lacoursiere18 said:
Go to this thread and follow the directions for returning to Stock..If you want to be locked then flash MJ9 through Odin.. You will be fully stock and locked:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply - but my question was actually about whether any 3rd party ROMs would function properly after removing root. Actually - is it even POSSIBLE to remove root from a 3rd party ROM (maybe something like N3BULA or a 4.4 ROM like Slim) in the first place? Would it just FC constantly because certain parts of the ROM don't function correctly without root access?
Thanks!
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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Well N3bula yes.. There are options in Settings that require root. No you could choose not to use some of those options but that is up to you. Yes it is possible to remove root.. In SU I believe there is an option to unroot your device..Check it out..
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OK. I really don't want to go down the "stock" path and end up with a locked BL - that is why i am looking for alternatives!
Thanks again!
Now I am starting to think that the 4.4 ROMs out there may not be very well suited to the idea of "unrooting".
I have tried a couple of 4.4 ROMs like CM11 and AOKP in the last couple of days, and there seems to be a recurring theme - they all have the Superuser menus built into the settings. Will this be problematic?
I have seen that the SuperSU app does have an unroot option in the settings, but I have read conflicting reports of what this actually does. It sounds like it removes the app, but leaves the binaries behind, and this might be detected by the root detection features in the Maas360 app.