Made up my mind, I'm gonna be buying my z2 in the next few weeks unless the g3 completely blows me away. Although I prefer black, I've heard it's quite the fingerprint magnet. Is purple equally prone to this problem? And since I'm buying in China, the noise cancelling earphones won't be included. To anybody using the noise cancelling earphones, are they worth the extra expense? Or do you think that the stock earphones are sufficient? Also getting conflicting reports about battery life. It seems that every major review site declares the z2 average, while most people who actually have the phone is quite satisfied, claiming more than a full day even with heavy use and 6-7 hours of screen on time. What's the deal?
I have the black one and it is a fingerprint magnet similar to black iphone4 but it's not a deal breaker for me. I put a case anyway and the case is also a fingerprint magnet haha. The NC headset performs very good but I don't know how it compares to the stock earphones. For me it's worth it since the noise cancelling actually works. I'm satisfied with the battery life, if you make purely calls and texts, it will last you at least 2 days. In fact I have a hard time draining the battery for the day and the only way to do this is to play 3D games so that you can charge it. I don't like charging phones when it's still 50%.
I have the white one so I can't really say whether the black one is a fingerprint magnet or not. However, I can answer your other questions.
I think the active noise cancellation earbuds are definitely worth it. When it plugs into the phone and the phone activate its noise cancellation it brought a smile to my face. All the cars from the freeway outside my house, all the people around me, everything quieted down to almost a whisper. The minute you turn your music on, you can't hear a thing that is going on around you unless maybe something exploded into your ear lol. As for battery life, I recorded videos, took lots of pictures, constantly turned my phone on to check facebook, watched a bit of shows here and there and I ended up with 50% battery life after 8 hours of use. Do note that I had NFC, bluetooth, and auto-brightness on. I think with moderate use, the battery life is amazing. For heavy power-users, it may last them above average the times of normal phones.
I have the black one and yes it gathers a lot of finger prints, but they vanish fast with a bit of breath and a wipe on my top. I lovve the NC headphones, when I was on the bus home just after I bought it, I watched a Youtube video (plugged the headphones in before putting them in my ears) then when I unplugged it from the phones the difference of the volume of the buses engine was huge.
I also this the phone has exceptional battery life, with average use, I could probably at a push go 2 days without charging, then there is the battery saving modes (stamina and low battery) you can change the parameters to ensure you can still use it as you want, but with everything you don't need switched off.
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This is my personal review of the exact battery seen in this auction.
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My startrek is brand new. I actually owned the phone when it came out and sold it. Now I have it again once I found out that I could install WM6.1 Professional. I LOVE IT. I like rubbing it in everyones face that owns other Smartphones and PDA phones that my phone can do everything yours can do and more. Anyways I noticed that with the stock 1100MAH battery the life was kinda sub par I rarely got a full day out of it. Although the cpuscaler makes the phone really responsive. It uses alot of juice and the only way I got respectable runtime is when I forced it to stay under clocked. Even then it got me a little over a day maybe 36 hours. I surf the net. I send over 2-400 txt a day. I run OZ IM software all day. I sync my hotmail every 30 min. Plus 1-2 hours of talk time and 2-3 hours of bluetooth a2dp play time. I use Garmin and bluetooth gps everyday. So im raping the stock battery. I sprung for the extend battery on ebay vs the mugen battery of the same AH. 1/3 of the cost. Im happy to say that i get atleast 2 1/2 if not 3 days without charging. The phone has a big arshe now because of the new cover. It really feels alot more comfortable in your hand with the bigger hump in the back. I got big hands and the stock always felt uncomfortable using one hand. I can leave cpuscaler on all the time now without worring about "I NEED MORE POWER CAPTAIN!!" Actually since the phone is a little bit elevated off the flat surface it get better reception and doesnt rock back and forth like with the stock battery and cover. The cover is cheap plastic but its rugged. It doesnt quite follow the profile of the phone exactly but its pretty close. Cover still shuts off phone when taken off. Ive used it for about two weeks and discharged it fully several times so im pretty confident in my results. There is no false battery % reporting like most cheap or expensive batteries have. It has gave me an accurate % every day and didnt hang at a certain % for hours like the mugen battery did on my kaiser. This is a good buy and i suggest everyone pick one up if they are concerned about runtime and not about looks.
Hmmm, I never had a problem with my 1100mah battery, even with heavy usage, I'd have at least 30% the next day. With light usage, it will last me a few days.
That seems awfully bulky with that big back cover.
Thats kinda what i said... With heavy usage the stock battery will last about a day and a half at most. I would have about 30% left after a full 24. My extended batt leaves me with about 70%. Ive been used to extended batteries cause i believe all htc phones fall short with their undersized batteries and ive even had some phones like the HERMES that used to get 4-5 hours when they came out. As the rom cooks improved battery management they got better but still fall short. I also said if you dont care about looks and care about runtime this battery is for you. Its almost twice as large as the stock but even the more expensive battery like the mugen battery .... their covers arent always the most streamline covers. The only cover I liked on my phone from them was the kaiser only cause it appeared to be stock with no bumps or humps lol. Im not a fan of opportunity charging because i find my self buying 5-6 chargers for one phone and placing them in my various hot spots losing the phone and or charger and having to make unecessary trips to retrieve them. Its a slim smart phone what do you expect.It personally fits better in my hand. My desktop dock just came in and it fits like a champ. Fits fine in my universal fit suction cup windshield mount too. So its cool with me.
First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
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Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
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There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?
Hello I bought a few days ago, this tablet and I have a few problems with it.
1 virtually anywhere as it lightly squeeze he creaks
Second right speaker crackles slightly as the game
3 after taking ROOT I have a feeling that the harder the heats of methyl at the front of the camera and I saw what I eats the battery is 79% it was the screen and I have almost a minimum brightness and battery saving mode enabled
please help
ps. my English is not so good
JimUSA said:
Hello I bought a few days ago, this tablet and I have a few problems with it.
1 virtually anywhere as it lightly squeeze he creaks
Second right speaker crackles slightly as the game
3 after taking ROOT I have a feeling that the harder the heats of methyl at the front of the camera and I saw what I eats the battery is 79% it was the screen and I have almost a minimum brightness and battery saving mode enabled
please help
ps. my English is not so good
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Don't worry about the language issue....
1. As with the "creaks" or "noise" when you squeeze, it seems that some Z2 tablets have this issue. I use a cover on my Z2, and do not notice anything unusual. I would suggest you look at the display, around the edge of the tablet, and see if there is anything unusual.
The Z2, to keep weight down, and keep it thin, is not as strong as some other tablets. So if you are a hard "Gamer", you may be squeezing/twisting the tablet very hard, and not realize it.
As with all tablets, I would advise getting a cover for it. This adds more protection. Paid a lot of money for it, so it needs protection.
The fact is, it really shouldn't be making noises. This is a build issue, and you should replace the tablet.
2. Speaker noise. This can happen to any tablet, and the Z2 does not have the best speakers, especially at high volume. Use headphones/buds. I also might suggest (as you rooted the tablet) to install Viper4Android Audio and see if the problem exists.
3. Overheat (hot area). This is normal on high performance tablets when playing graphic intensive games. I would think the hot area is where the CPU/GPU is located. If the tablet doesn't reboot, then don't worry about it. Root has nothing to do with this.
Finally, battery. Here is how you correctly read the battery usage chart. Let's say you have 100% charge. After a couple of hours use, you are at 70%. So you used 30%. You look at the chart, and see Display is responsible for 70%. Of course it is. The display is what uses the most battery.
So in effect, of that 30% battery loss, the Display was responsible for 70% of it ( the 30%).
Although there are many threads on XDA informing how to reduce battery usage, don't forget to set the "updating interval" on all your social apps (facebook, mail, etc). Maybe you don't need it updating every 5 minutes! You can also install a couple of apps, to check and see what exactly is using your battery. Better Battery Stats is a decent app for checking things. Although after using it, I would uninstall it. Titanium Backup can "freeze" certain apps running in the background, and Greenify can make them hibernate. Just 2 more useful apps.
If the above issues are too much for you, I might suggest returning the tablet for a replacement. You just bought it, so the return might be ok.
I forgot to add that sometimes stops responding to touch or hold.
Anyone else experience really crap battery life. I have had this phone barely over a year and now it is down to about 3 to 4 hours of of texting and snap chat and then it is nearly dead. Today it used 30% in an hour and a half. i send 5 texts and 3 snap chats. I am starting to believe the flag ship phones are BS. I do not think I will invest in high end after this. My iPhone SE work phone granted it is a small budget POS and an iPhone but I i leave that that thing off the charger for days at a time and even with all day usage it does not get below 50%.
My next phone all I need is a good camera and ram to load things quicker and a monster battery. Phones like moto G and E and some of the lower end LG and Samsung phones are starting to look more appealing.
I would switch out the battery for a larger but I do not want to change phone backs. The phone is already a giant brink in my pocket, do they make a GOOD higher mah battery that fits the same cover?
My battery life sucks also. I've had the phone about 2 years now and I'm lucky if I can get 5 hours of standby power. and yes I use greenify and Doze. if I use the phone for anything like calls or pictures or surfing, forget it, I'm down to two hours time. Luckilly I keep it plugged in whenever possible.
Ditto. I like this phone ok, but the battery life is terrible. I don't even use it that much during the day, but it won't even make it an entire day without charging. And no root sucks.
If you turn off all the crap that auto-runs, including location when not needed, things will improve greatly. But, you need root to do these things.
yeah, this thing has totally crappy battery life. I am an uber and amazon flex driver, so I use my phone all day, every day. The only reason it doesn't die constantly is I have a charging cable hooked up for it next to my car mount and it gets plugged in every time it is on my dash. Even still, I have to plug it in over night or it will be dead as hell in the morning. I actually have 2 extra batteries for it, but can't use them much because I have no way to charge them outside of the phone, so they are always low. I did just order a chrger base for it that charges my phone and an extra battery at the same time, so hopefully that will help, but this phone is really useless without extra batteries. As a side note, my girl has a cheap cricket lg, also, and hers just barely makes it through the day as well. it hits the low battery warning on her every single night and she only uses it after work. so she gets like 9 hours standby and 2-3 hours use... I kinda think lg just sucks at picking a battery size for their phones or batteries just need a new leap forward...
Hi all,
I've been using my site to push partners and suppliers on this and nobody is planning on producing one which I find completely crazy.
It seems that the only phones that get battery cases are Samsung devices and Apple devices, but I would buy the sh!t out of a case I could clip over my phone and extend the battery by a few 1000 mAhs. Battery life really matters to me and I would sacrifice svelte-like aesthetics for it.
Anyone else looking for one too? (I've even used my PR contacts at Oneplus...they haven't even responded )
To those who say "use an external battery pack" I say, "I do", but I'd rather not carry two items especially when I'm at events like IFA recently.
What's the point when the charging is so quick? You're normally gonna be near a car or power point.
Why would you need the more mah? Can't you get trough a full day with the op5???
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What's the point when the charging is so quick? You're normally gonna be near a car or power point.
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As I said, not when I'm at events and the like. I travel a lot for work also so yes I can charge when I get to hotels but it's VERY handy to trigger a switch and feed from battery case.
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Why would you need the more mah? Can't you get trough a full day with the op5???
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Under normal circumstances yes, however at events where there are lots of videos and pictures being taken as well as social media and more, then no. I can get through a day with about 4 hours SoT (12-14 hour day) and that's with about 10% left in normal use (best case scenario)
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As I said, not when I'm at events and the like. I travel a lot for work also so yes I can charge when I get to hotels but it's VERY handy to trigger a switch and feed from battery case.
Under normal circumstances yes, however at events where there are lots of videos and pictures being taken as well as social media and more, then no. I can get through a day with about 4 hours SoT (12-14 hour day) and that's with about 10% left in normal use (best case scenario)
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4h sot? U or your phone does something wrong. Those hours i get around 50/60%.
Thanks for your response but no, I don't do anything "wrong". I have the same use cases on many Android devices (WiFi, VT constantly on, GPS off, etc) and they are all similar to what others get. Perhaps you are just lucky.
Plus I must add that simply telling me I or my device is "wrong" is everything that is 'wrong' with Forums nowadays
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Unfortunately the demand just isn't there for it to be worthwhile for manufacturers like Mophie to do a custom one.
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Wiggz said:
Thanks for your response but no, I don't do anything "wrong". I have the same use cases on many Android devices (WiFi, VT constantly on, GPS off, etc) and they are all similar to what others get. Perhaps you are just lucky.
Plus I must add that simply telling me I or my device is "wrong" is everything that is 'wrong' with Forums nowadays
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Jeez, some of the comments here are extremely assumption heavy. It's like they aren't even considering your point, or situations that would make you want a battery case.
I personally don't want a battery case, but it's trivial to imagine a scenario where it could be helpful. Zerolemon made one for the oneplus 3 I believe, I imagine they'll make one for the oneplus 5 as well.
I would be interested in a battery case for those rare circumstances. However, i don't want a poorly made one. I'm not sure how zero lemons have been lately, but the ones for nexus 5 and 6p i hated.
I orefer the thin build of the phone. I work with Linux a lot so i just apply Franco Kernel and my own custom settings in his app and terminal emulator. Usually nets me about 2 days of usage and around 10-11 hrs sot. If im not asleep by then at my home near my charger im probably MIA. I prefer to carry my external power in my backpack. I used an insanely huge battery for my S5 years ago and got sick of the 3 inch thick phone scheme
I wouldn't need a battery case. I find it hard people would really need it as I get 9-11 hours of screen on time (with fairly heavy usage). With Dash Charge, you can top off in just an hour and 20 min and a days worth of power in just 30-45 min. I doubt with a phone with insane battery life and teh fastest charging of any phone that there would be much call for a battery case.
Battery cases aren't really made to on all the time. Its just not feasible with how big and heavy the phone gets with them.
I would only use it when traveling. Get to the airport take my slim case off and throw on the battery case. That way I don't have to be like everyone else and look for a plug. Also external battery packs are much more inconvenient because you have to deal with an a cord. Easier to have something strapped onto the phone. On the plane I watch movies stored on my phone or listen to music while I sleep. Id leave the battery case on till i am about to land at my destination then just slip my slim case on and go about my day.
What about carrying a small power bank? You can get 1000mAh banks that aren't much bigger than a credit card and about 1/2" deep, then grab a 3" USB-C cable and toss them in your bag/pocket and off you go!
YES please! They are so handy for traveling... Once you had one you never want to go out without it anymore ?
What's the point of carrying a battery around all the time?
A battery pack (the bigger the better) with Dash Charging would be more way more useful!