I'm using SS 3.65 on my Droid Razr (XT912). I'm currently running SlimKat and, as backup, CM 10.1 on my two 'extra' slots.
I NEVER use the stock ROM anymore - I think in the last six months I've rebooting into it just one time. So I am wondering:
Can I just delete the stock ROM 'slot'? (and in doing so free up that memory for other use)
Or can I erase and put another ROM in that slot?
Finally, if I EVER needed stock again, is there a 'stock' ROM out there that I could flash back into that 'slot'?
I'd like to be able to use that memory space that the useless stock ROM takes up. Just don't know if this is safe to do... Or how to do it exactly.
Thanks.
-Tom
Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
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Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
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Sorry to knock the dust off an old post, but for the SS flash on the stock slot, did you just wipe cache, data, and android secure before you flashed? Or did you do something more extensive? Thanks.
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Just switched from an iPhone 4 and I'm raring to get Hyperdrive set up. The phone is rooted, safestrap is set up and a partition is waiting, but everything I've read so far mentions putting the Hyperdrive .zip onto an external SD card. I wasn't planning to get the new S4 till next weekend, so I haven't got a micro SD card around and I won't have one till Tuesday. Can I flash the new ROM from the internal card? Also, will this method of installing a custom ROM over stock work for the S4 as well? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521899
My guess is no, yes and that I just need to be patient for a few days. Thanks in advance!
you will be fine to move to internal or external either or. or at least it did for me
relt said:
Just switched from an iPhone 4 and I'm raring to get Hyperdrive set up. The phone is rooted, safestrap is set up and a partition is waiting, but everything I've read so far mentions putting the Hyperdrive .zip onto an external SD card. I wasn't planning to get the new S4 till next weekend, so I haven't got a micro SD card around and I won't have one till Tuesday. Can I flash the new ROM from the internal card? Also, will this method of installing a custom ROM over stock work for the S4 as well? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521899
My guess is no, yes and that I just need to be patient for a few days. Thanks in advance!
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Yeah, you can install any ROM from the internal storage. Its just that, since most apps and content (photos and music) is stored on the internal SD, and TW hogs a lot of storage, its usually easier to use an SD card. However, know this, if theres not enough from to unzip the ROM, it wont install.
For example. I have a HyperDrive MK2 Verizon S4. I have a 2GB SD card that I use for music and photo storage. The HyperDrive ROM is 1.7GB compressed, and must be installed that way. However, extracting it shows its about 2.3GB or so. Because thats larger than the 2GB that SD card holds, you get an error about the zip install failing.
You can install any Touchwiz based ROM, like Hyperdrive, Eclipse TW, or BoneStock, to the stock partition easy. However, t is recommended to back up the stock rooted partition first. Just back up the .system partition, dont worry about /data or /cache or anything. If you need the space, pull the backup to your computer. That way you can easily go back to stock if you need to by factory resetting, wiping system, then restoring to system.
I HAVE NO STORAGE LEFT PLEASE HELP Hyperdrive Safestrap
So I know . Im almost Postivite I did everything correct here but ill give the run down
Im on MK2
and Ive factory reset and unrooted multiple times to see what I did wrong
First I root my device
Then I install Safestrap I download the file to my SD card I believe and then just Install
Go to Recovery and change from stock and go to Creat in ROM 1
Move the MB to 3gb
Next I download my ROM to my sd card and Flash That
Then because I have to I download Kernel to SD card and FLASH that
Then REBOOT and is that all ?
I must be doing something wrong though because I have attached screenshots of everything that im seeing and SOMETHING IS WRONG
Give me a step by step or pm me or anything you have to and I will change whatever I must
What shows up when you hit misc. files?
This is what I see
Triscuit said:
What shows up when you hit misc. files?
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This is what I see . Anything else you need just tell me I really want to figure this out
Yea something isn't right. If I were you I would try to put a file that's bigger than what it's showing you have and see if it accepts it or not.
You need to flash the information while you're in the hyperdrive slot.
Assuming Safestrap 3.71:
When you create a ROM slot using Safestrap, it allocates a chunk of space from the internal memory on your phone.
It doesn't matter if you have 16 GB free on the stock ROM - when Safestrap allocates a rom slot, it's a fixed size and that's what you get.
(3 GB, if I remember correctly). If you install a big custom ROM, then start restoring a bunch of applications from the play store, you may run out of space in the slot. That's the way it works: you can't use the free space on the stock ROM to augment that - it's as big as it is when created.
My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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theErock said:
My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
Here's a bit more precise:
If you want to make backups
Boot into safestrap, select boot options and make sure the slot you're currently using (not stock!). Then, back to the main menu, choose backup. A bit more than halfway down, you'll see "Storage: " - I'd make sure your external card is selected - simply tap on storage to see which one / change it. Then, just swipe to back up.
Next, select boot options and select Stock, then repeat the next steps to back it up.
If you want more space
Next, go to boot options, select slot 1 (or where you have it installed), and delete it. (Make note of the size - I might be wrong, but if you ever want to restore the slot 1 backup, you'll want the same size created later).
Overwrite stock
Back in boot options, select Stock Rom, return to main menu and select Install. After this, just continue as if you're installing on a different slot. Assuming you've downloaded the latest CM and gapps (can't post full links ... grrr ... https [...] download [dot] cyanogenmod [dot] org [slash] ?device=spyder and saved it to your SD card, navigate to the rom zip file, select it, then add the gapps file.
If you have any trouble, post a reply. It was actually several months ago that I did this, so I actually don't remember if there was anything I had to do afterwards, but I believe it went smoothly.
Good luck!
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I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
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Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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theErock said:
Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without
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Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without
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If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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theErock said:
If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
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Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
At least, I didn't ...
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Also, if it makes you feel more comfortable, I recently made a full backup of the stock slot w/ CM11 on it, restored the original stock I had and booted it just fine in order to do some stuff with the verizon voicemail app (maybe I could have installed it in CM11, but I didn't want to), then rebooted to safestrap, restored CM11 to stock, rebooted and everything worked fine.
Yeah something is making me reluctant & apprehensive about doing if. On scared I'm might brick it.
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Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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theErock said:
Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.
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The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.
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Do you use bootloader or a recovery system like Safestrap or bmm (I think)
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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theErock said:
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.
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I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.
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Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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theErock said:
Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.
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The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.
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OK that makes sense thanks for elaborating on that :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Good luck!
karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Like wise tell me how it goes. :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Success?
Not yet need new SD card I guess backed up stock, cheched to make sure everything was there and SD was empty. I won't replace stock enless I have the backups.