Hi
I recently dropped my phone which caused the digitizer to stop responding to touches.
Anyways, long story short, i managed to take the lcd and digitizer apart. It was much much harder compared to galaxy s3. I almost gave up half way.
Anyways, if you see the pictures, lcd is completely white but when i just hold the digitzer above it, lcd starts to work fine. Seems like there was a film between lcd and digitizer which made the lcd show real colours..
Have a completely broken the lcd? or is there still hope. Digitizer is obviously cheaper compared to getting a whole lcd. I was hoping to stick it together with loca once i had a new digitizer... Any ideas?
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tele27 said:
Hi
I recently dropped my phone which caused the digitizer to stop responding to touches.
Anyways, long story short, i managed to take the lcd and digitizer apart. It was much much harder compared to galaxy s3. I almost gave up half way.
Anyways, if you see the pictures, lcd is completely white but when i just hold the digitzer above it, lcd starts to work fine. Seems like there was a film between lcd and digitizer which made the lcd show real colours..
Have a completely broken the lcd? or is there still hope. Digitizer is obviously cheaper compared to getting a whole lcd. I was hoping to stick it together with loca once i had a new digitizer... Any ideas?
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I'm exploring the same question. I've seen the led sold separatly from the lcd. And seen a youtube where someone mistakenly separated them instead of the digitizer from the lcd. Do you have any connection to the digitizer when holding it above ?
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Hello Guys,
i have a problem, i had already replaced the LCD-Screen because the old was broken.
But now i got a new problem... if i place the new screen on the digitalizer i got a glimer on the display. I don't now why. But i already discoverd that this effect only appearce if the LCD-Screen is on the digitalizer..
So what is the exactly reason and how can i fix this problem? Is the digitalizer cracked?
Here are 3 Pictures, one is without the digitalizer.
Thank You,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
did you try to fit digitizer in or just holding it upon the lcd?
what would happen if you rotate it 90degs?
are you sure there is no protection foil still on the lcd???
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behind and on the lcd, there are reflection foils, bluring, light redirecting, polarizating. maybe 6 of them together. some are glued on screen, some are just below it. obviously there is something in digitizer as well, and those in your replaced lcd are not compatible with digitizer.
can you ask for return of the lcd and get another one?
the other option would be getting replacement of digitizer from the same shop.
or third, this effect doesn't look like it's from polarizator. polarizator is glued but those others are not. if it will not change if you rotate it, like with polarizator effect, means it's not polarizator and you can replace those other foils from below lcd. putting ones from your broken screen to the new one. It's quite difficult, but could be done.
okay.. if i rotate the digitalizer the effect changes..
in nearly 90 degree the effect is better than normal.. but not really good..
so is there a magnetism issue??
or whats the reason for this effect?..
could the digitalizer broken? but it's still working..
the display brokes because of violence..
could the digitalizer although broken??
no the digitizer is fine.
the replacement you get was not oem. means was not from the same factory.
someone working in there made some pictures or paintings of the lcd and showed it to his friend who owns a similar factory. He then made this lcd and sold it to you. As he didn't know what sort of, let's call them optic foils, have been used in the original he just put the ones he new were working fine with another mobile. But he didn't expect, as i am surprised too, that the digitizer have an optic foil inside as well. But before realizing, I suppose they already gave bonus to all those little workers and started overnight secret manufacture.
Before realizing the mistake, they already produced a lot of it. To cut the loses, I suppose they created a set of digitizers with a similar practice, which they would sell together with lcd and would be working good.
Now someone, your seller probably thought selling separate lcd would be ok too, so he did. That's why i was suggesting you have right to have an replacement, refund or an new digitizer from him at a fair price.
Of course don't take me too serious on the picture/painting matter, but otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if I came to true quite close
anyway those fake parts are a good quality and in most cases you wouldn't say difference. But shyt happens
as the rotating didn't solve issue completely problem would be those foils below lcd. if your seller would not be cooperative, you've got nothing to loose. open both lcds and change foils over.
Or get a fake digitizer which you would be sure is compatible with that screen.
If not successful, get a combo, lcd + digitizer.
hmm okay..
in the description is written original htc ware..
i had send my seller that problem and now we will see..
thanks a lot for those information..
I would be very interested in knowing how you got the digitizer and screen seperated? Arent they glued and most likely going to break easy?
did you mean the digitalizer and the lcd display or the front screen?
I opened one up once and the LCD appeared to be glued on to the back of the front screen (which I assume is the digitizer?)
ah okay.. eeerm.. i don't know that the lcd was glued on the digitalizer.. because my display has broken and the liquid was out of the display.. so the LCD was easy to take off..
But I've read some guys has warmed it firstly with a hair dryer and then they could take the display off..
hx4700 Killer said:
I opened one up once and the LCD appeared to be glued on to the back of the front screen (which I assume is the digitizer?)
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you make me want to open ma rhodium.
if it's glued use a razor, or heat gun & blade like on apples.
then clean it and put new tape.
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ah okay.. eeerm.. i don't know that the lcd was glued on the digitalizer.. because my display has broken and the liquid was out of the display.. so the LCD was easy to take off..
But I've read some guys has warmed it firstly with a hair dryer and then they could take the display off..
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yeah dryer is maybe more safe just keep it below 100 cels. but it's not so vulnerable on bending too.
fake3: you sure you don't have protector foil on that lcd you bought?
i been playing around and get similar efect with a protection foil below polaroid.
there was still one protection foil on the front of the lcd.. but i already removed this foil..
but can you make a picture where the foil the polaroid is??
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there was still one protection foil on the front of the lcd.. but i already removed this foil..
but can you make a picture where the foil the polaroid is??
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I was playing with just a generic foils. not rhodium.
They can put filters inside plastic nowadays. and mix even more of them and it's all still tiny.
If there is one in digitizer, it would cut sun reflections of lcd and would make good sense.
Glass could be tented, too. digitizer is usually one glass and one foil.
even if you would find something glued on lcd or digitizer, it's not possible to take it of without damage. I talked to people producing foils and applying them they can't take that off too.
There have you be one polarizer glued on front of lcd, otherwise you would see nothing. And they usually gluing one on back. That make the light more efficient. redirect light in useful directions, but is not necessary, that is another possible difference in your case. And probable, because it spares $ and space. But it's glued - no help there if that's the case.
but then there are all those which are dispersing light evenly, those you can try to change. They all have to be used in a set working together they create
something called Brewster condition, if that's not met, you see something like you see on your screen. every active foil is a part of it, and obviously there is something in your digitizer.
Just had another though, there is a small chance that htc decided to change factory or producing process themselves. and both are original. But I wouldn't say that's very probable.
So guys,
i solved the problem..
I bought an new Digitalizer from the same seller and now it works fine..
Thanks a lot for the hint with the different manufractures..
Greetz
happy to hear that
no worries
guys.. i wan to ask something..
my LCD is glued to my digitizer. since both of it is broken.. i juz throw the whole part away.
but then, i diden really glue my new / replacement LCD to my digitizer.
so i assume they did have some space in between.
although my rhodium works well now, but my digitizer only able to sense fingernail o stylus only. anything a tad bigger than fingernail, it wont pick up. neither my thumb nor my finger.
is this possible due to the space in between the screen made it so? or my digitizer was some lousy quality stuff?
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guys.. i wan to ask something..
my LCD is glued to my digitizer. since both of it is broken.. i juz throw the whole part away.
but then, i diden really glue my new / replacement LCD to my digitizer.
so i assume they did have some space in between.
although my rhodium works well now, but my digitizer only able to sense fingernail o stylus only. anything a tad bigger than fingernail, it wont pick up. neither my thumb nor my finger.
is this possible due to the space in between the screen made it so? or my digitizer was some lousy quality stuff?
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The digitizer is a seperate part from the screen. It sends X - Y coords to the device letting it know where you pressed and the device coorelates that to what was on the screen where you pressed.
What I am saying is that you could have the two pieces seperated the screen in one place on the digitizer in another and you should still be able to press on the digitizer and have the device react appropriately.
The digitizer works independantly from the screen.
haha.. so in short.. it means by digitizer is lousy rite?
I Have de same problem, I need a new lcd screen but i dont know where buy
please help me
and i need the service manual
Thks
My Touch HD, for 9 months now, perfectly works with the screen cracked.
Touch is ok, no problem.
No pixel missing (only the distortion from the cracks thats barely visible from straight look).
I'd like to change it my self but i dont know what to change....!!
touch screen: viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/HTC_Touch_HD__T8282_LCD_Screen_Display__Tools_New/220603358520/item
or
LCD: viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/Tctil_Pantalla_wGlass_Lens_Para_HTC_Touch_HD__T8282/150367803789/item
But it works now, if the risk changing it myself is high, from killing it, is it better to leave it as it is?
P.S. I had changed my screen 1 year ago and I payed 268€ (it cracked in 3 months after htc service)
Thnx in advance
it's probably the lcd since the touchscreen (digitizer) is made out of plastic. I don't think that'll crack very easily
OK i have a similar question...
But first of all can someone please clarify if the OP has the items the other way around? I mean is touchscreen (digitizer) the outer casing with the plastic screen and LCD the inside part?
OK now to my question. I dropped my phone and scratched the outer casing. Everything works fine but i would like to change the touchscreen just for aesthetics. Reading many many many tutorials i noticed most people faced problems trying to replace lcd screen only or touchscreen only and prefer to buy the bundle. My question is if i buy the touchscreen that the OP states here : viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/Tctil_Pantalla_wGlass_Lens_Para_HTC_Touch_HD__T828 2/150367803789/item isn't just a matter of connecting the digitizer to my existing LCD? Are they connected with a conducting adhesive tape as i was reading on the tutorials? Or this is not the part connected with the adhesive?
Thanks a lot for the help and sorry for hijacking the thread.
I've changed only the digitizer in my Blackstone but its really difficult job and took me about half day to finish. The digitizer its glued to LCD and you need to be very careful to separate them. I've done it only because i bought this HD very cheap for parts but next time will probably buy the whole part (LCD+Digitizer).
don't change digitizer
my touch-panel was not working correctly,i bought a digitizer to change it self but the lcd is broken ... impossible don't try.
i recommend you to buy complete set lcd+digitizer , its need only one click on motherboard
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my touch-panel was not working correctly,i bought a digitizer to change it self but the lcd is broken ... impossible don't try.
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It's possible, I did it yesterday
my baclstone started acting funny with screen alignment getting messed up a we times by itself and than it completely stopped responding...
even the touch sensitive hardware buttons donot work no more...i have hard reset many times did task 29. i have changed different roms and went back to stock rom but screen doesnt respond at all... not even the backlight turn on to full brightness when screen is tapped?
anyone have any idea whats broken lcd or digitizer or both... or maybe something else.... and there is no official htc repair shop so i probably gotta fix it on my own
Probably digitizer is broken, if you see no cracks on lcd(blurry, black areas) then replace only digitizer.
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Probably digitizer is broken, if you see no cracks on lcd(blurry, black areas) then replace only digitizer.
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yes no cracks or blurry or black areas.... just tht screen is not responding to touch at all....
and i have to send it for repair and wait 2 weeks for it... thanks alot
I've got exactly the same problem, can you let me know how you get on please. Where can you buy a digitizer from, are they easy to fix?!?
You might want to know... if you are trying to just replace the digitizer you will most probably damage the LCD. I just opened mine today, the digitizer is glued to the LCD, it is hard (or impossible) to split them apart because the LCD is made of multiple layers that can break apart very easy (then is done).
Even if you can take them apart you need to glue the new digitizer to the LCD and then again the digitizer to the case, most probably your new digitizer will come with no adhesive
// I should have bought digitizer+LCD from the start.
I faced a similar situation last month. The screen calibration was a problem and later.. performed a hard reset. It actually starting working fine, but only for a couple of days. I was not able to allign the screen after reset. I enquired with the HTC US customer care.. they offered to repair the digittizer for about $335( very expensive!! i know). Later, on a trip to India, I got it fixed in bangalore for Rs.7089/-( digitizer+LCD cost) + Rs.411/-(service charges). The service advisor told me that even though the LCD is fine, they could not peel the digitizer as its a complex layered stuff. So, eventually had to replace both. Its back to normal now. Cheers!!
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You might want to know... if you are trying to just replace the digitizer you will most probably damage the LCD. I just opened mine today, the digitizer is glued to the LCD, it is hard (or impossible) to split them apart because the LCD is made of multiple layers that can break apart very easy (then is done).
Even if you can take them apart you need to glue the new digitizer to the LCD and then again the digitizer to the case, most probably your new digitizer will come with no adhesive
// I should have bought digitizer+LCD from the start.
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Actually, you need to glue just the digitizer to the case. I changed mine yesterday, just digitizer, and without damaging the LCD, so it is possible :] My old digitizer was cracked though, but I would say it was even harder because of that.
What I was going to say is, that fortunately I was able to reuse the double sided tape which glues digitizer to the housing. But after few such repairs it probably won't be possible. So buying the LCD + digitizer combo will be necessary eventually :/
When I replaced mine, after I seen how it is inside I decided to buy digitizer+LCD in one pack. It was 60 GBP on eBay and looks like the original.
The only problem was the glue, I used 3M double sided tape 2mm which needed to be cut in most areas but screen is not held properly this way. I might have to open it again, otherwise is all good, image quality and all.
Maybe best solution is to first try to take apart digitizer from lcd and THEN decide what to order, if it goes well get only digitizer, otherwise if you damaged the LCD get both of them sealed, getting both has another advantage, they are already sealed and there is no chance to have dust on your screen.
How did you use the tape?
Quick question and i'm sorry if it has been asked before.
My stepdad cracked the screen but the digitizer and the LCD are fine.
My question is, can I replace the glass screen by its-self (as i've seen for sale for $7.00), or is the digitizer and LCD glued to the screen when I take it apart similar to the iPhones.
I'd rather not have to purchase a digitizer and a LCD if i don't have to.
Thanks in advance for the help :good:
Its one unit so you need to buy that for about $185. Its only possible to successfully separate the glass from the digitizer and the capacitive buttons with a machine.
Used notes are priced at about the same as the replacement screen unit.
Worth a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-80zTAfyc
Not really. The hairdryer heats up and damages the lcd while doing a marginal job of softening the adhesive. You will likely overheat the lcd. The buttons are deeply imbedded in the adhesive and are harder to place on the new glass. The adhesive sticker is pretty difficult to place correctly. I have excellent skills, and have replaced many screens (gorilla glass is a poor name choice) and I attempted this but it didn't go so good.
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Worth a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-80zTAfyc
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wow, that's intense!! maybe if it was my phone, i'd try. thanks for the video, but i'm going to tell him to buy a new phone. haha, way too much work for me!
i recently dropped my phone and it got a crack in the bottom right corner around the back button stretching up to the middle of the left hand side of the screen, and i need help repairing it.
Im not sure if i can just replace the glass myself or i need to replace the digitizer or any other parts as the screen and back button still work perfectly fine.
I'd also like to know whether this job is easy enough to do at home as i am on a low budget, however i dont have much experience fixing phones.
much appreciated if anyone can help me
Replace the screen assembly, glass plus digitiser and oled screen. Trying to unglue the glass is very hard and the heat can kill the phone.
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Replace the screen assembly, glass plus digitiser and oled screen. Trying to unglue the glass is very hard and the heat can kill the phone.
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Replacing the whole digitiser is a lot easier, but beware cheap(ish) ebay parts - I replaced my digitiser with an assembly from ebay, but the glass in the replacement broke very easily.... replaced it again and it's cracked again, without even having a hard knock. Nowehere near as sturdy as OEM parts. Screen still works so leaving it for now
Words of warning...
I attempted to replace the glass on my S3 after I dropped it. I have over 20 years experience as a computer engineer and access to loads of tools. I watched numerous YouTube videos on the process before I started yet still I managed to break the digitiser. In the end I bit the bullet and bought another brand new S3 for £200. The cheapo replacement glass I bought from eBay did not seem very sturdy either - I'm certain it's not gorilla glass. My advice would be to get it fixed professionally by someone who uses OEM parts but then again, how close in price would that be to a brand new phone?