I picked up my Z2 on Saturday, love some stuff about the phone a ton, just have a couple of nitpicks.
There's some "gap" issues in that it's not uniform all the way around, it seems to be purely cosmetic and doesn't affect the waterproof aspect of the phone.
The power button is shockingly small, and it feels pretty awful to press, there is no feedback at all. It's a spongy, mushy, mess.
The volume rocker is incredibly loose, I can deal.
Mine didn't come with the neat noise cancelling headphones
The power button is very firm but I have found after some use the feedback improves a lot. It is still less than z1 though
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corallus said:
The power button is very firm but I have found after some use the feedback improves a lot. It is still less than z1 though
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Good to know feedback may improve. I never used the z1 myself. Is it essentially the same button?
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No, same design but z1 was more of a pronounced button with easier feedback, however it did feel loose and Could be rattled. The z2 is more firm and to press it, you have to want to. Like I said, it feels better after some use and now I'd say overall is better than z1.
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About the batch
eallan said:
I picked up my Z2 on Saturday, love some stuff about the phone a ton, just have a couple of nitpicks.
There's some "gap" issues in that it's not uniform all the way around, it seems to be purely cosmetic and doesn't affect the waterproof aspect of the phone.
The power button is shockingly small, and it feels pretty awful to press, there is no feedback at all. It's a spongy, mushy, mess.
The volume rocker is incredibly loose, I can deal.
Mine didn't come with the neat noise cancelling headphones
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Hi, your device is from which batch ? ( look in the micro sd hole , there a lil black paper and it is written on it , 14w15 or 16 or 17 or 18 )
shaf46 said:
Hi, your device is from which batch ? ( look in the micro sd hole , there a lil black paper and it is written on it , 14w15 or 16 or 17 or 18 )
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18
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18
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still problem with the 18th batch :/ I think we should really be careful when buying a sony z2 now :/ i guess we should do a list
of the different batch that is available on the market and states its defects/problems, this might help anyone here
i'll quote you in the post for sure
Related
I have just made a video about how to replace the AT&T Galaxy S2 housing with a much cooler WHITE i9100 housing that I bought from ebay
Link is up! enjoy and good luck!
Video Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVPYElVpyxU
Pics ***UPDATED WITH HD PICS***
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B-dezhfy-SisOXZBc1hCTXlNZEk/edit
Housing (That I bought):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Full-Ho...ccessories&hash=item3375e3460e#ht_1846wt_1163
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Cool...but those pictures are pretty awful.
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Cool...but those pictures are pretty awful.
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Updated Pics, now in high resolution
Aren't the mic ports in a different spot on the i777 models? How is your call audio working and does your speakerphone mic work at all?
IconRunner said:
Aren't the mic ports in a different spot on the i777 models? How is your call audio working and does your speakerphone mic work at all?
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No the mics line up perfectly
I am running Serendipity 9.3 with it's built in kernal and have no problems talking and no problems with speaker phone either. Voice is clear.
Doesn't look bad. How long it took for shipping?
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Doesn't look bad. How long it took for shipping?
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about two weeks.
btw it doesnt come with the tools depicted in the picture.
is this the same feel as the stock casing? plastic feel?
george.z.he said:
No the mics line up perfectly
I am running Serendipity 9.3 with it's built in kernal and have no problems talking and no problems with speaker phone either. Voice is clear.
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Are you sure? The "Top/Headphone Jack" picture has the hole near the edge towards the black front casing. But on my phone it's towards the edge near the battery cover.
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is this the same feel as the stock casing? plastic feel?
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Maybe just me, but it feels much more "well-built".
The battery back door is much harder and stiffer than the flimsy original black one.
Also the batter back door is smooth, I personally like the feel better when compared to the textured original battery door.
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Maybe just me, but it feels much more "well-built".
The battery back door is much harder and stiffer than the flimsy original black one.
Also the batter back door is smooth, I personally like the feel better when compared to the textured original battery door.
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like a more glossy feel in other words?
EDIT: I also noticed that at the end of the video your power off menu was popping up a lot, does the power button stick at times or anything?
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like a more glossy feel in other words?
EDIT: I also noticed that at the end of the video your power off menu was popping up a lot, does the power button stick at times or anything?
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Yes it is glossy and looks really nice in the sun
Oh sorry, my bad. That was just my way of testing the power button without turning off the screen haha.
No the power button and volume keys don't stick at all.
EDIT: Oh I see what you mean. You mean the part when I test the volume button, a menu pops up in the back right?
That is because I use the AudioManager app and when I press the volume buttons, a menu pops up that asks me if I want to change sound profile
It is not the power menu.
george.z.he said:
Yes it is glossy and looks really nice in the sun
Oh sorry, my bad. That was just my way of testing the power button without turning off the screen haha.
No the power button and volume keys don't stick at all.
EDIT: Oh I see what you mean. You mean the part when I test the volume button, a menu pops up in the back right?
That is because I use the AudioManager app and when I press the volume buttons, a menu pops up that asks me if I want to change sound profile
It is not the power menu.
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awesome man, you sure you don't want to retail this for me? i almost feel safer buying it from you, i would even buy it for $15 if you listed it and gave me a link, with the extra money like a donation just for the how to video!
Haha its safe, don't worry
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Nice video tutorial explaining the change of housing. I thought it was much harder than it actually is and I might try it out. I just found it on eBay for $3.00; what a steal! Here is the link if anybody wants:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Fu...ain_0&var=&hash=item2ebc9b2483#ht_3174wt_1163
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Nice video tutorial explaining the change of housing. I thought it was much harder than it actually is and I might try it out. I just found it on eBay for $3.00; what a steal! Here is the link if anybody wants:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Fu...ain_0&var=&hash=item2ebc9b2483#ht_3174wt_1163
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I also saw that but if you look closely, they are only selling you the home button, if you choose full housing in the drop down menu it becomes more expensive
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i see your version of windows is not genuine
I just ordered one from a seller in Florida so I can get it faster. Can't wait to install.
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I just ordered one from a seller in Florida so I can get it faster. Can't wait to install.
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how much was it from that seller?
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how much was it from that seller?
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$18.99
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So has anyone noticed a loose power button on their s3? The bottom of the button has a pretty good wiggle to it. It clicks just fine when you press it. Any thoughts on this? Is this normal for Samsung phones? Thanks!
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So has anyone noticed a loose power button on their s3? The bottom of the button has a pretty good wiggle to it. It clicks just fine when you press it. Any thoughts on this? Is this normal for Samsung phones? Thanks!
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Yes! Mine doesn't feel quite as firm as the volume rocker. I was considering asking someone in a Sprint store.
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Yes! Mine doesn't feel quite as firm as the volume rocker. I was considering asking someone in a Sprint store.
Thoughts?
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In case it matters I have the ATT version.
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I have the AT&T version and mine is quite tight....so I think its just yours. Maybe take it to a store and show someone?
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I have the AT&T version and mine is quite tight....so I think its just yours. Maybe take it to a store and show someone?
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But is it loose at all toward the bottom of the button? The top seems just fine.
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Mine for rogers seems a bit loose vs volume button..
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I am on rogers and mine is quite loose as well. Not just the bottom bit in general. No issues using it though...
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Mine seems fine, T-mobile here. Sounds like something worth taking to the store to get checked out.
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But is it loose at all toward the bottom of the button? The top seems just fine.
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No, the entire button is tight
Well so far it points to maybe being normal. I mean it works and it doesnt stick or anything. So I guess I am torn to bring it in or not. Either way I have 20 or so more days to bring it in if I see fit.
Still interested if this is how Samsung wanted it or maybe just a bad unit.
Mines pretty loose as well, but it works fine. On sprints version
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Thinking on Friday I will pop down to my local ATT corp store and compare the button to the floor model.
Anyone else planning on doing a return due to this issue?
Mine is good and tight, AT&T Pebble Blue. I did have a white one before that was loose and very clicky. Haven't felt that on either of the 3 blue versions I have tried. Maybe it's related to color?
Those who have a loose button, is your phone white?
Yes mine is white. It clicks when ya press it and it works just fine. Its just got a little wiggle to it! I'm gonna bring it in to have ATT take a look at it. See what they think. I bet is they will open another one to see if its the same way. I was reading online on another set of forums that one store had opened 4-5 boxes and they all had some wiggle room to them. Both blue and white models. I will see if I can find it again and link it.
My S3 power button is also kinda loose but it works without issues. I also noticed that it is more flush with phone compared to the volume rocker. It has a slightly more 'mushy' than the volume button.
I believe the thread you are talking about is below, and I was the one who asked for many units to be checked lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714031
The button feels firm when pressed, but is just not as tight as volume rocker...
Given the amount of people that have it, it seems more or less 'acceptable' and I don't know how stores will change each 'loose/mushy' one...
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My S3 power button is also kinda loose but it works without issues. I also noticed that it is more flush with phone compared to the volume rocker. It also is slightly more 'mushy' than the volume button.
I believe the thread you are talking about is below, and I was the one who asked for many units to be checked lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714031
The button feels firm when pressed, but is just not as tight as volume rocker...
Given the amount of people that have it, it seems more or less 'acceptable' and I don't know how stores will change each 'loose/mushy' one...
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That was the thread indeed! I think I am gonna hold off on the return unless it becomes worse or sticks. Either way I love the phone so far! With my Otterbox case it will cover the button anyways.
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That was the thread indeed! I think I am gonna hold off on the return unless it becomes worse or sticks. Either way I love the phone so far! With my Otterbox case it will cover the button anyways.
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Good stuff.
Is yours a bit more 'mushy' compared to volume rocker?
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Good stuff.
Is yours a bit more 'mushy' compared to volume rocker?
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Kinda! But its just not as firm as the volume rocker. It still has a nice click to it when you press the button. Plus this is my only complaint about the hardware so far.
How about yours?
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Kinda! But its just not as firm as the volume rocker. It still has a nice click to it when you press the button. Plus this is my only complaint about the hardware so far.
How about yours?
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Yeah. When I press towards the top/bottom of the button, it feels more mushy but center has a better/firmer click. hmmm... similar?
Hardware is flawless otherwise. No other complaints as well.
I am considering buying this. With a hefty price tag of 820 dollars here in Sweden, I have to ask if there's anything bad with this phone that might cause you to rethink?
It is mostly positive mate, the only bad things I can say is that the power button and volume rockers are a tad flimsy. And that is nit picking. Best phone on the market easily.
Flimsy as in unreliable at times or flimsy as in will break completely after a while?
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Flimsy as in unreliable at times or flimsy as in will break completely after a while?
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Flimsy as in it feels breakable, but no-one has had a problem as of yet.
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Flimsy as in unreliable at times or flimsy as in will break completely after a while?
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Flimsy as in cheaply made, breakable. But not a big issue and by no means a dealbreaker!
It's not as cheaply made as the power button of the Nexus One, is it?
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The biggest problem for me is how things unload so quickly/easily in the background which makes multitasking much more of a pain than the S2 was.
The only complaint that I have with this phone is the buttons are a little flimsy. But all in all the phone is great and I would recommend it to anyone looking for a top of the line smart phone!
Why you all complaining about the buttons? I find nothing wrong with them exept the little "lag" with the home button
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I have no problems with the buttons or with lag or redraw.
Theshawty I remember you from the gnex forums so I have no doubt you will have your phone flashed with something or other so you don't need to worry about any software issues, redraw is easily fixed by changing oom priorities in service.jar, easy work for a nexus veteran! XD
your gonna sell the gnex or keep it?
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I have no problems with the buttons or with lag or redraw.
Theshawty I remember you from the gnex forums so I have no doubt you will have your phone flashed with something or other so you don't need to worry about any software issues, redraw is easily fixed by changing oom priorities in service.jar, easy work for a nexus veteran! XD
your gonna sell the gnex or keep it?
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Hey nodstuff! I don't know if I really should buy this, I mean, I bought the Nexus in April so it's relatively new. If I do, however, buy the Galaxy S3, I'll keep the Nexus. ^^
AMOLED screen is the main issue on S3. Losing most of the details in dark scenes when watching video. Other than that, is perfect phone.
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I am considering buying this. With a hefty price tag of 820 dollars here in Sweden, I have to ask if there's anything bad with this phone that might cause you to rethink?
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- Poor memory management force home screen to redraw when exiting heavy apps. Should be solvable by sw or maybe 1 GB is too low (intl. quad version).
- Unusable in direct sunlight, too low brightness. Not solvable.
- Auto brightness is too aggressive and not smooth. Solvable via sw at the expense of battery life.
Every other aspect of the phone is fantastic. Super stable and smooth. Great job from Sammy making a very usable phone out of the box.
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i love the phone.so dont just fokus on all the negative. no phone is totaly perfect for all.
my problems with it. is not mush.
no lanyard hole. ? i have allways used that. and has saved my phones alot in the past.
and i get a strange spoken code when pinching the homescren. wery wierd.
and when playing vertical games. (isent all ? ) i often hit the tuch bottens.
and i cant turn of the shutter sound. for camera.
but im new. and a noob. so i dont root and such. (dont even know what it is hehe)
This phone is pretty awesome. It's the first time is used a manufacturer UI (touchwiz nature UX) that I feel actually feel makes the phone more usable and functionable than stock android. Sure, the HTC one x might have a slightly better screen, but overall this phone is awesome.
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Hey nodstuff! I don't know if I really should buy this, I mean, I bought the Nexus in April so it's relatively new. If I do, however, buy the Galaxy S3, I'll keep the Nexus. ^^
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I remember you from nexus forums.
I sold my nexus last week and aren't planning on looking back. Sure the nexus gets faster software updates but this has better battery life, more storage, and a better camera. Screen is also slightly larger.
The only other thing, apart from the updates, I prefer the capacitive home button on the nexus. The mechanical home button is not too great, was stiff at first but now it's a bit better worn in and I'm getting used to it. It's not a deal breaker, let's put it that way.
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What's really bad about this phone for me is that I can't leave it alone. I love modding it and shooting pics and videos with it. Haven't experienced any issues with the buttons, but that could be because it's rooted and I use touch recovery and quick boot. It's been over one month since I last had to hold in the three buttons to get the phone into recovery/bootloader mode.
My main problems is:
- The redraw issue... No much of a problem anyway.
- Feels like the phone is worth 10$. To much cheap plastic.
- Screen is a bit "dirty" when showing white's and greys (PENTILE AMOLED issue)
- Agree with the flimsy power/volume buttons.
- Backcover makes some noise when pressed. Not 100% seal with phone.
Think im happy with the phone. Only had it for a couple of weeks. It's superfast and stable.
Isn't the size of the phone an issue?
I ordered a SIII yesterday, and what worries me is the size. I'm used to have my phone in the front pocket of my jeans and I'm worried that it won't fit there, at least while driving my car.
Where do you all carry your phones?
Pebble blue is pebble purple.
It is still laggy till jellybean comes out.
Touchwiz.
Feels empty at the back and very slippery may want to get a case.
Am mm that's it the rest is fine.
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I have a White Silicone case on my SIII... Whenever i press the Volume Up button its really creaky and annoying.. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me? :crying:
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I have a White Silicone case on my SIII... Whenever i press the Volume Up button its really creaky and annoying.. Does anyone else have this problem? Or is it just me? :crying:
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A search will find identical post .
So that's two with 20 million without .
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Really?? Their are people on here with real problems....and your moaning about a creaky volume rocker......
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i had the same problem (plus more)
It was very annoying.. makes the phone sound cheap. Try to get a replacement.
Honestly, I thought the Nexus Volume and Power buttons were cheap enough (they're actually just plastic pieces with contact points). The S3 buttons managed to be worse.
mine is fine, tho the powerbutton is worse. coming from apple i can say i'm a bit dissapointed but everything else in this phone is top notch so in the end i cant complain.
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mine is fine, tho the powerbutton is worse. coming from apple i can say i'm a bit dissapointed but everything else in this phone is top notch so in the end i cant complain.
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Yeah, I used to Have a Galaxy SII before this, and i Must say the quality of materials used have dropped pretty significantly...
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Really?? Their are people on here with real problems....and your moaning about a creaky volume rocker......
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When you pay 800$ for a phone, you would expect it to have Better construction. And what are the so called 'Real Problems'?
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i had the same problem (plus more)
It was very annoying.. makes the phone sound cheap. Try to get a replacement.
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Yes!! And also the frame on my phone is cracked near the Headphone jack, Have no Idea how that happened though, It has always been inside a Silicone case and i have never ever dropped it or anything...
I've got a creaky power button.
I also have a creek sound when pushing down on the back of the phone opposite the volume rocker without the back cover on.
I am normally very... VERY picky when it comes to phone... this is my second s3 and to be quite honest I can't be bothered to change it again.
Every Samsung phone I have had there has been a problem with it.
If I take the back cover off and keep pushing it the sound goes away.. but it comes back sooner or later.
But I suggest you get a replacement because the cheap sound the volume rocker makes it very annoying.
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Same to me
Yes or No and why. I'm on the fence right now and really wanna know what it's like walking, sitting down and operating a huge phone.
If you can operate a Note 2 you can operate this phone. It is a bit hard to use with one hand but you can with some getting used to it
I would trade 1 handed use for screen any day. How often are you stuck with just 1 hand to do everything? 3% of the time maybe?
I am very comfortable using the phone. I thought size might be a factor but it's not. It is a pleasure to use.
I would imagine using it as a small tablet is comfortable, but are you guys using it as a phone by itself? As in holding it up to your head? Or do you pair a bluetooth device to make calls?
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I would imagine using it as a small tablet is comfortable, but are you guys using it as a phone by itself? As in holding it up to your head? Or do you pair a bluetooth device to make calls?
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Yes, I use it as a phone holding it to my head. I bought a bluetooth device thinking I would use that as a handset but it remains unused.
Are there any issues with the other side hearing you? While on my note 2, if I'm not talking in normal/loud voice, the other person may complain they can't hear me very well (or maybe it's just this particular restaurant in specific). Since the XZU is so long, it'll go WAY past where your mouth is.
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Are there any issues with the other side hearing you? While on my note 2, if I'm not talking in normal/loud voice, the other person may complain they can't hear me very well (or maybe it's just this particular restaurant in specific). Since the XZU is so long, it'll go WAY past where your mouth is.
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No complaints as of yet.
I don't have the largest hands and I can type in landscape with very little effort. It is hefty, but since it's so slim, you don't really notice. I've made a few phone calls and I'll admit, it looks strange, but doesn't feel unnatural.
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No issue for me, if still comfortable for me.
I can make calls with it no problem. No need for a bluetooth device at all unless you want one.
My biggest concern actually is using the phone as a music player. The audio jack is on thw side so it might be too tight on the pants. And while driving, it might be impossible to switch between tracks with one hand lol
I wish android implemented swipe gestures on the screen to wakeup. Its almost effortless and is an elegant solution especially if your phone is idle on a table top
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Yes or No and why. I'm on the fence right now and really wanna know what it's like walking, sitting down and operating a huge phone.
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Coming from iPhone 5, I need some adjustment to typing on this device. However, browsing websites and reading articles from Current and Buzzfeed is great, it has that book-reading feel to it. In fact, the big ass screen makes it a pleasure.
It's easy to hold with one hand but making phone calls made me feel awkward, and a little bit embarassed.
I feel like I made the right choice to return to android with this device. I wish it has tablet capacity battery though.
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My biggest concern actually is using the phone as a music player. The audio jack is on thw side so it might be too tight on the pants. And while driving, it might be impossible to switch between tracks with one hand lol
I wish android implemented swipe gestures on the screen to wakeup. Its almost effortless and is an elegant solution especially if your phone is idle on a table top
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The audio jack on the side is ridiculous - sony did this on XSP too (sony seems to be good at spoiling decent devices ), especially on a "smartphone" this big :silly:
I'm also getting an XZU in couple of weeks, and if using audio cable while the phone is in my pocket proved impossible, I think the workaround is using the wireless bluetooth.. Sounds like it defeat the purpose of a fully-waterproofed audio jack, but some compromise must be made, huh
First look I worry about the size, now I love the size. Inside my pocket no problem for walk, sit and run. I put my note 2 and zu together with my jean pocket or short paint is ok. No doubt.
One hand operate no problem for me. Because I m the big hand.
When incoming call also no problem, answer without bluetooth. Now I won't worry the size only how to root my device.
One more think is this device suitable for male better than female. When my wife hold it look like holding a M16.
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Here's a fresh preview video from Pocket Now. The Ultra Vs the Note 2
I found the Note 2 too awkward to use so I sent it back. If I had issues with that would this device be even worse?
I don't have the ZU yet, so I can't really give you an answer, but what didn't you like about the Note 2? Was it too big?
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I don't have the ZU yet, so I can't really give you an answer, but what didn't you like about the Note 2? Was it too big?
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It was partly the size but more just its general handling, reaching across the screen even though I tried clustering stuff on one side of it. I had a Galaxy Note sometime prior & I got on with that reasonable well & though the Note 2 was bigger of screen I still thought I would be OK with it.
I taking out my phone from the jeans every time I get in the car.
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I can make calls with it no problem. No need for a bluetooth device at all unless you want one.
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I can see this being very difficult for my coffee/beer in one hand use :laugh: