Hello! I've been searching around, and can't find any clear statement of what I'm loosing when the bootloader is unlocked. Bravia? Can live without that. But I can't live with loosing camera quality.
I love the camera, it's amazing.
Chillzone said:
Hello! I've been searching around, and can't find any clear statement of what I'm loosing when the bootloader is unlocked. Bravia? Can live without that. But I can't live with loosing camera quality.
I love the camera, it's amazing.
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Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755893
you will not lose anything BIONZ works as well as x-reality. even DRM keys never become lost after unlocking the bootloader so I just do relock and guarantees in case of problems with the handset.
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skit777 said:
you will not lose anything BIONZ works as well as x-reality. even DRM keys never become lost after unlocking the bootloader so I just do relock and guarantees in case of problems with the handset.
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Is that confirmed that DRM keys won't get lost? I always thought that was the one given that they will be gone for ever...
There are three other threads covering this. Here and in Q and A. This phone does not have bravia. DRM is lost after unlocking. And its built tight not loose.
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There are three other threads covering this. Here and in Q and A. This phone does not have bravia. DRM is lost after unlocking. And its built tight not loose.
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Tight? Loose? What?
You can loose device if your hands isn't straight ??!!!
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I came from an s3, flashed it to death, I'm getting withdrawl...
I Understand that unlocking the bootloader on the z1 broke various things.
Like camera (although I believe thats resolved in the latest update) and also the x reality?
Except I've read that unlocking the bootloader on z2 would lead to less quality on my camera?
Is this true?
Also, on z1 and other xperia phones, didn't they manage to enable xreality even without locked bootloader?
So, my question is simply this: without mentioning warranty
What do I lose by unlocking my bootloader, and anything thats lost could potentially get restored unofficially?
and could someone also interested in unlocking the bootloader, take some pictures before and after the unlock... please?
Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
Envious_Data said:
Things that are lost after unlock
DRM Keys
Warranty
Things that break:
X-Reality
OTA Update/any kind of update through sony pc companion or update service
Things that change:
All of the above
Updating and stuff , or anything at all. Just ask
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Official Sony response:
Dear Jacek,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
In regards to the email that we receive from you about what you loose when you unlock the bootloader, we can tell you that the features that the phone has intergated you are able to keep them like the one that you mentioned. We are sorry for any incovenience this may cause. Thank you for been part of the Sony Xperia™ Family.
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I mentioned X-Reality and BIONZ. I don't know how reliable this answer is... Seems quite vague.
Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Their reply just says nothing is lost in fancy talk
I think x-reality engine stops but i cant test right now
I dont even have a rom installed
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Sure, keep us posted.
Thanks for the replies guys.
So it seems nothing is lost...
Ota isn't an issue since.. Well we'll be flashing tweaks anyway.
X reality and camera is the thing I was most worried about and their email reply seems to confirm they're preserved.
So what are the drm keys for!!?
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Keys are important for Sony's special offers and warranty.
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So no keys means no lounge offers... Not sure I'd miss it too much tbh.
What about ps4 connectivity and other Sony exclusive things? Anyone?
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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Ps3 controller connection works fine, even throwing music to a ps3 and 4 works fine with a UBL (unlocked bootloader)
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thanks for testing that, i heard there was ps4 camera connectivity.
For example: using playroom, draw on phone, the object comes to life on your camera ps4 screen and can be interacted with.
Seems a petty thing to ask but I just want the full lowdown on whats lost via unlock, this seems to be a sony exclusive z2 and z2tab feature so I'm wondering.. do drm keys affect ps4 interactivity in that way?
My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
I was thinking about this the other day, if the drm keys (ta folder) are exclusive to each handset and sony themselves provide key for bootloader unlock, wouldnt sony be able to provide the folder if we supplied the serial number, imei etc. Obviously i'd be better off asking sony, just wondered what others thought? I can't see any reason why they wouldnt be able to, but can maybe understand why they may not want to
@shollywood...
You're rooted? If so, is the walkman app downloading music info? That seemed to be the other thing people mentioned might break
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My XReality and "offers" are working just fine. I also updated to 17.1.A.2.55 yesterday through companion...
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What exactly are these "offers" if I may ask? Also, does xreality even make a difference?
Can someone confirm that nothing important (except the warranty) is lost after unlocking bootloader ?
I dont't mind OTA updates and special offers.
If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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If X-Reality, OTA updates and Some Xperia Market apps are not important then unlocking your bootloader is a big plus
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Is xreality lost ??
Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Seems so... But there's been talk on z1 forum about reenabling again after root...
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Ok, I will wait before unlocking my device, I want to know exactly what I'll lose. For the moment, noone seems able to report precisely what is lost... It's really a shame...
Then, maybe a method to backup TA partition will be found sooner or later.
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Yeah I am going to wait and see what happens. Now that more are getting the phone we will recieve more data and hopefully more people can look for exploits. Who knows maybe we don't even need to unlock the bootloader :victory:
*How does the phone hold up on day to day usage
*any issues out of the box
*ota 5.0 lollipop is now realeased for the phone,so how is that treating the device
Im most likely gonna not root it and unlock bootloader but just to get it out of the way..
**camera issue?**
Whats the deal with the camera messing up?
If you root and unlock will that already screw up the camera?
How about if your complete stock 5.0 and then deciede to root and unlock
Will that mess it up as well?
Sorry for the newb questions im gonna be new to the z ultra
Thanks in advance
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*How does the phone hold up on day to day usage
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Good, Had mine for over a year, dropped it out of the truck a couple of times and still good as gold. Treat it as 2 1mm thick sheets of glass on an 7mm aluminium frame.
*any issues out of the box
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Only the camera in poor light - just get a good manual camera and it is ok
*ota 5.0 lollipop is now realeased for the phone,so how is that treating the device
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LP is only out for the GPe version. The original Sony will get it some time in the new year
Im most likely gonna not root it and unlock bootloader but just to get it out of the way..
**camera issue?**
Whats the deal with the camera messing up?
If you root and unlock will that already screw up the camera?
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Loss of auto focus only effects the GPe version, the Sony just has startup time issues on a locked BL, and there is a work around for that
How about if your complete stock 5.0 and then deciede to root and unlock
Will that mess it up as well?
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Who knows at this stage
Sorry for the newb questions im gonna be new to the z ultra
Thanks in advance
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blueether said:
Good, Had mine for over a year, dropped it out of the truck a couple of times and still good as gold. Treat it as 2 1mm thick sheets of glass on an 7mm aluminium frame.
Only the camera in poor light - just get a good manual camera and it is ok
LP is only out for the GPe version. The original Sony will get it some time in the new year
Loss of auto focus only effects the GPe version, the Sony just has startup time issues on a locked BL, and there is a work around for that
Who knows at this stage
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Thanks for answering the questions..im dead set on buying the google playy edition z ultra.ive been wantimg to buy it since day 1 at launch but so expensive lol now that its cheap im considering in buying it
1 more question..hopefully someone using the google play edition can answer. Im most likely gonna be using it on tmobile does the gpe support tmobile LTE bands? Or would i just be getting h/h+ connection?
I have the GPe and I'm on TMo. I do get LTE speeds, and you will see the LTE symbol when it's available.
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*How does the phone hold up on day to day usage
*any issues out of the box
*ota 5.0 lollipop is now realeased for the phone,so how is that treating the device
Im most likely gonna not root it and unlock bootloader but just to get it out of the way..
**camera issue?**
Whats the deal with the camera messing up?
If you root and unlock will that already screw up the camera?
How about if your complete stock 5.0 and then deciede to root and unlock
Will that mess it up as well?
Sorry for the newb questions im gonna be new to the z ultra
Thanks in advance
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A few issues:
1. Lots of random reboots (so save your work often)
2. 5.0 lollipop is junk. Buggy as heck and unusable. Stick to 4.4.x if at all possible.
Camera: NO issues, but bear in mind its only 8MP without flash. Not the best camera available but "does the job".
Root / Unlock: I highly do not recommend it unless you absolutely NEED to root. Rooting tends to destabilize Android (which is already buggy by nature)
Other: The GPE is a C6806 which supports all GSM LTE bands in the U.S. You should expect to see LTE on either AT&T or T-mobile just fine. I use T-Mobile and have LTE
Other than that: Awesome device. Best one on the market in my opinion, although the Huawei Mediapad X1 is really tempting me....
Ok.. Hopefully I can get some good advice here!
Basically, my G4 crashed and burned recently - unrecoverable boot loop. LG took it away for repair under warranty but sent it back unfixed - because it was rooted. I personally think they shouldn't get away with violating my consumer rights in this way - they admitted a hardware fault after all (and my device was one of the affected serial numbers)..
Anyway.. Thank F**k for Amazon, who are refunding my phone.. I can't praise them enough. :good::good:
I wasn't planning on getting another LG phone (after they screwed me over) but they are just so damn good.
So. cutting to the chase....
If you were buying another phone today. Would it be an LG G4 or G5 (Or something else Android) with the following requirements..
- It must be easily rootable...
- It must not suffer from boot loops.. (G4's are fixed since 508, I believe, and the new ones have serials way above that)..
- edit.. Price.. Ideally not more than about £400. Unless you've a very good reason and a warranty that won't expire if I root it..
Thanks for your time!!
#H
Well, if it's a rootable version (like H850) then of course G5.. not a discussion.
But he mentioned the warranty. If you root H850 you most likely lose it. I'm about to take my G5 for GPS warranty repair. Mine is rooted, I will report what they told me.
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For a super fast, stock experience you'd do well to find something better than the One Plus 3. However, the camera really isn't that great, so even though I loved the phone, I came to the lg g5, of which I adore.
I used to have a g4 and not much can come close to the g4 or g5 in pro mode.
Thanks guys.. So looks like the G5..
Which root method would you recommend?
I guess I don't mind losing the warranty as long as the phone doesn't have any issues.. Do they suffer from boot loops as well?
Huawei is stopping users to unlock bootloaders for the devices going to be launched after today.
For the devices which are there, get it in another 2 months, else the same applies to it if you wanted to unlock post 60 days from today.
I don't think there is any point in thinking to buy a device from Huawei in future. They won't believe that this act will actually hamper their market.
For Now, Yes you can go ahead and unlock it from here : https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail
You can see the attachment for the notice.
If I obtain a code for my bootloader, can I use it whenever I want or it has an expiration date?
If I generate the code(and not use it), is my warranty still valid?
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Yes
marek_poland said:
If I generate the code(and not use it), is my warranty still valid?
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Yes it will be valid until you see the message " Your device is unsafe or so" while booting, and that will only appear if you use cmd and the unlock command to unlock bootloader. So no issues in getting it handy.
i really had to read the announcement 4 or 5 times in shock and disbelief lol.
- A phone company has gone from zero to one of the best by 1) open source 2) unlocked bootloader as standard
- Another company with a diminishing reputation is not open source and has seen current massive issues regarding unlocking bootloader requests (root cause = not being unlocked as standard), so this company puts final nail in coffin by permanently removing bootloader unlock, thus creating the complete opposite of what has been globally defined as the sucessful model.
very funny ?
I can't even get a firmware update
I'm on November last year security patch
So if they was really security minded, they would push timely ota updates
Nothing more than a tech dump
Sell and forget
br54 said:
I can't even get a firmware update
I'm on November last year security patch
So if they was really security minded, they would push timely ota updates
Nothing more than a tech dump
Sell and forget
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Yes
I think, when I AM BUYING a Huawei phone, and i am paying 500-600 € i am also buying all software that is coming with this phone, including the bootloader. Also i want to do whatever i want with my PAIED [email protected]%#ng phone, unlock it, fry it, brick it, brake it. Because, do you know dear HUAWEI? I PAIED FOR IT, YOU DIDN'T GIVE IT TO ME FREE. So if i break it again, i ll pay you again to fix it. So... R. I. P HUAWEI
After entering my login pass I am getting blank screen at emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_index
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After entering my login pass I am getting blank screen at emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_index
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I couldn't access the site on a mobile browser, worked fine on my PC.
Try setting Chrome on your phone to browse the desktop site, or just use a PC.
Hi Guys. I had opportunity to test out my OP7TPro with Seat android auto connection for a past few days. I have issues with it, not sure why, since 5t worked like a charm with the same settings/permissions. After some time when screen is totally off (Gmaps is running in the background together with android auto) my gsm range just dies. And i cant have it back untill I unblock the phone. I turned off screensaver. Also got rid of the feature which turns off connections, etc., when phone is not used for a while. Still, it didnt helped.
Anyone had similar issues?
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Hi Guys. I had opportunity to test out my OP7TPro with Seat android auto connection for a past few days. I have issues with it, not sure why, since 5t worked like a charm with the same settings/permissions. After some time when screen is totally off (Gmaps is running in the background together with android auto) my gsm range just dies. And i cant have it back untill I unblock the phone. I turned off screensaver. Also got rid of the feature which turns off connections, etc., when phone is not used for a while. Still, it didnt helped.
Anyone had similar issues?
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Try looking in app battery optimization and disable it for all apps effected
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Try looking in app battery optimization and disable it for all apps effected
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Yup, did it in the first place.
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Guys, it seems it doesnt happen only when i use android auto. I've noticed that when i have GMaps on, and ill lose gsm connection, it doesnt comes back when im back in range. Factory reset didnt helped, im still having this issue.
Any ideas?
This phone is killing me. Wierd problems all the time. If i wont find the fix, ill just return it and never buy 1+ again.
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