Ok, long story shot, I've got a line that still has unlimited data. Right now I'm tired of paying $60 a month for internet. So I've come up with the idea to use my droid razr at a perminate in home hotspot. Thing is, anyone who has done this will know, the phone gets really hot failry fast. It also drains battery, even during chargeing. I'm trying to come up with an idea of how to keep the phone cool, and keep the hotspot up. I'm thinkning of useing a CPU liquid cooling system attached to the battery to help keep it cool. (something like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032 ). Just wondering if someone has any other ideas, or know if this will work for sure... thanks!!
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Ok, long story shot, I've got a line that still has unlimited data. Right now I'm tired of paying $60 a month for internet. So I've come up with the idea to use my droid razr at a perminate in home hotspot. Thing is, anyone who has done this will know, the phone gets really hot failry fast. It also drains battery, even during chargeing. I'm trying to come up with an idea of how to keep the phone cool, and keep the hotspot up. I'm thinkning of useing a CPU liquid cooling system attached to the battery to help keep it cool. (something like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032 ). Just wondering if someone has any other ideas, or know if this will work for sure... thanks!!
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The fridge???
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xpsychox said:
Ok, long story shot, I've got a line that still has unlimited data. Right now I'm tired of paying $60 a month for internet. So I've come up with the idea to use my droid razr at a perminate in home hotspot. Thing is, anyone who has done this will know, the phone gets really hot failry fast. It also drains battery, even during chargeing. I'm trying to come up with an idea of how to keep the phone cool, and keep the hotspot up. I'm thinkning of useing a CPU liquid cooling system attached to the battery to help keep it cool. (something like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032 ). Just wondering if someone has any other ideas, or know if this will work for sure... thanks!!
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Its not just the battery that heats up. The CPU temperature increases too along with the power consumption resulting in heating up battery. And If you attache the charger, the effect is multiplied. A cooling unit does sound a good idea but where exactly would you put the heat sink.?
Attaching it to battery will be difficult.
Well, when mine got hot, I placed it in front of the AC unit and it would cool down real quick.
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Only problem with the fridge is there is no power to charge the phone and the WiFi drains the battery. Depending on the age of the fridge it might cut down on signal strength.
I was thinking of possibly trying to figure out a way to bypass the battery.. Does anyone know if it'll boot without the battery attached?
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OK...that didn't work...I'm thinking of leaving phone apart and leaving space between back of battery and phone to let air pass.
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Maybe putting some ice in a box and put the Razr on this box? You know what I mean? This should cool it down for a time
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I need a more perm. Solution this is going to b my arm. Home internet
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Ok said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835181032[/url] ). Just wondering if someone has any other ideas, or know if this will work for sure... thanks!!
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Assuming you have a signal of -90 dBm or better all you need is:
Buy a Verizon / Pantech UML290 4G/3G LTE USB Cellular Modem from ebay $20
Buy a Cradelpoint MBR95 wireless router from 3gstore.com $140
Buy a micro sim card adapter $8
Insert sim card from cell!!!
Okk try this.
Get a CPU fan(if u can try a laptop one,its smaller). And a DC adapter..
Attach the fan to the back of the phone.
Place the heat-sink in some coolant (try with ice or frozen gel).
Plug DC adapter and run the fan.
That's as good as I can suggest..
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Assuming you have a signal of -90 dBm or better all you need is:
Buy a Verizon / Pantech UML290 4G/3G LTE USB Cellular Modem from ebay $20
Buy a Cradelpoint MBR95 wireless router from 3gstore.com $140
Buy a micro sim card adapter $8
Insert sim card from cell!!!
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Going to have to look into that..
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xpsychox said:
Ok, long story shot, I've got a line that still has unlimited data. Right now I'm tired of paying $60 a month for internet. So I've come up with the idea to use my droid razr at a perminate in home hotspot. Thing is, anyone who has done this will know, the phone gets really hot failry fast.
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I'm in the same situation and have been using my xt912 for almost a year as my sole hotspot. It doesn't get particularly hot and the battery charge increases while it is on the charger. This was with the latest Verizon OTA update and also currently with CM11 and the Motorola a/c adapter that came with the phone. Could there be something else running that is causing the heat and high battery usage?
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I'm in the same situation and have been using my xt912 for almost a year as my sole hotspot. It doesn't get particularly hot and the battery charge increases while it is on the charger. This was with the latest Verizon OTA update and also currently with CM11 and the Motorola a/c adapter that came with the phone. Could there be something else running that is causing the heat and high battery usage?
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Yeah...called doing too much...lol I do a lot of random things...I also have my RAZR with the RAZR maxx mod on it.
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If you are using it as a stationary hotspot, why not uc/uv it so never goes beyond certain frequencies?
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If you are using it as a stationary hotspot, why not uc/uv it so never goes beyond certain frequencies?
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Uc/UV? Not familiar with that..
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Uc/UV? Not familiar with that..
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Underclock/UnderVolt
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OK... Ive done that before of a different phone.. Recommend a good app to do it with? Haven't done it in years..
Nvm..downloaded setcpu... Going to give that a shot..
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xpsychox said:
OK... Ive done that before of a different phone.. Recommend a good app to do it with? Haven't done it in years..
Nvm..downloaded setcpu... Going to give that a shot..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223517
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JBX-Kernal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223517
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I'm running stock ROM.. I could put something else on bit in my XP the built in hotspot app works the best and they usually cut it out.. I got setcpu and put t at kin of 300 and max 600 and it sees to b fine.. Other than when my breaker blew last night and caused my phone not to charge (bad USB plug in on phone..forgot about it)
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I definitely agree with you using tether instead of internet. WOW internet cost me...roughly $60 for a 2mb/s down and 1mb/s up. Now lets not forget that we are talking about megaBITS so that is only 256kb/s down and 128kb/s up, which sucks.. My unlimited data with verizons 4G LTE has gotten me as high has 45mb/s which is freaking nice!!! Anyways onto the original problem.
In the beginning I simply put my phone in front of a fan and that usually kept it pretty cool for a while, but you will learn that at some point you have to turn it off and let it rest. I've also learned that certain tethers on certain roms run better then others. I've had cases that my tether didn't get hot AT ALL which was great! Whereas others burned me to the touch in minutes.
What you can try is using a small power pack that can easily attach to the side of a case or whatnot and rig it to a computer fan, which would significantly decrease the heat since it is in direct content. I had it like that for a while and it was extremely manageable, but not very efficient for taking it out of the house.
Also, I would not recommend putting your phone in the fridge, freezer, A/C unit. I say this because what happens when you bring your nice cold lemonade outside where it's hot. It condensates, which is what can happen if you are not careful of HOW you are actually cooling it down. You do not want a FAST change in temperature, but a steady cooling method. Another example is if you leave anything electronic outside when it's cold, you should wait until the device is room temperature before turning it on since it is so cold, etc etc.
Hope I said something useful. Hope you figure it out!
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had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy keyboard. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the tab bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
Update#2: Just found out you can't send SMS messages while you're on the phone. The Evo did it all the time. not MSM messages but plain old text messages........on top of that I called sprint to see about sending me a HTC Evo 3D but they told me I'd have to wait till my 30 days are up(Oct 16) before they can send me a phone out BECAUSE I'm in Alaska(Army) now and of course sprint don't have a walk in store here so I can't send the phone back in to the sprint store I got it from in GA, I'd be without a phone for like 3 weeks. So Sprint high above said they would send me a 3D after my 30 days are up.......Guess it gives me more time to think about all this. I do like the design and the Extra that it's a world phone but meh I guess I want need it unless this phone works over in Afghanistan. hmmmm.
update#3 Scratch the Evo 3D.........because I'm getting the Iphone 4gs. my 30 days will be up oct 16 then sprint will send me a replacement of my choice. $199 iphone 4gs I can't wait!!!. The Photon is great but I just prefer something else with a bit more life too it. Thanks guys.
This might be right, I believe the issue comes at a point where the settings
within the WiFiTeather app for Transmit Power is at %100.
You might want to try to reduce the Transmit power and see if that helps it.
About the issue with car charging, I don't believe your alone on this,
However seeing as though this post lacks detail information regarding Current Running apps,
Services being active like 4g/wifi/BT/GPS and the power/amp going to the phone from the charger,
it might be hard to give you a definitive answer.
I also have had this issue and I can't say that it's only the photon.
All in all good luck and maybe someone here that is more advanced in power consumption will be able to shine light on this.
You won't find a phone that doesn't get really hot when tethering for a good period of time. You cant blame the phone when an accessory that isn't made for it doesn't work with it.. There are many alternative keyboards available if the stock doesn't suit you. Have fun with your 3d.
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This might be right, I believe the issue comes at a point where the settings
within the WiFiTeather app for Transmit Power is at %100.
You might want to try to reduce the Transmit power and see if that helps it.
About the issue with car charging, I don't believe your alone on this,
However seeing as though this post lacks detail information regarding Current Running apps,
Services being active like 4g/wifi/BT/GPS and the power/amp going to the phone from the charger,
it might be hard to give you a definitive answer.
I also have had this issue and I can't say that it's only the photon.
All in all good luck and maybe someone here that is more advanced in power consumption will be able to shine light on this.
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The phone is plugged up when I run wifi tether. yeah I figured it was the power option under wifi tether settings but didnt want to change anything that would stop wifi tether from working......in the car I have pandora radio playing while charging=no charge. I'm always connected to 3g. pandora/web browser and wifi tether is like the only apps I use all day...
Get the gingerbread keyboard....the stock one isn't that great. And try a different car charger, I have a generic off brand one and I've never had an issue with it working.....
A co-worker had a blackberry microusb charger at work, now A: good news is my photon battery last very very long I can get through my nine hour work day with moderate use and still have < 10%. B: The blackberry charger although plugged in and a gave charging animation, never seem to actually raise the % of power. It may have slowed it but not by a whole lot.
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had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Like xTMFxOffshore said, you can always use gingerbread keyboard or many others. Remember, this is Android not the iPhone, you can use a different keyboard, and a different launcher... Just switch to a new keyboard, (I prefer Smart Keyboard Pro, or A.I.Type Keyboard), and you might enjoy your phone again. If you don't like Motorola's launcher try the ever-so-customizable Go Launcher / Go Launcher Ex, or Launcher Pro, or just look in the Market for more launchers. If you don't Motorola's Dialer, look in the Market for a dialer such as Rocket Dialer, or Go Contacts/Go Contacts Ex. Same applies for Browser (I like Dolphin HD Browser personally), SMS application (I like GoSMS personally), Camera application (I like the stock Camera app personally), and much more. Look in the Market. Themes for Launchers, some SMS apps, some Dialers, (both such as GoSMS/GoContacts), set the tone for the application, and make it more enjoyable.
I had the same experience with the charger, except it was a home charger. Try buying on Amazon.com, Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Charger and have a new car charger that works.
As for wifi tethering, lilrepo and Acvice already addressed that above. Try the Wifi Tether 3.1, beta6 app, found on the website.
Now if you follow our tips, you can fall in love with the Photon all over again.
As for the random restarts, you may have a loose battery, call Motorola and explain that to them, and for motivation tell them about the charger, (you may have to say it won't charge), and remind them that you are covered by a 1 year warranty for all parts and accessories. They will ask for your serial number/IMEI found in the About section of your phone, and send one to your home address. If you get a new battery, break it in by first draining it until your phone shuts off, charging it to 100% while off, repeat those steps again, and it will be "broken in."
Another possibility for the random restarts, is overheat protection. Your Photon will turn off / restart to prevent overheat, or when the processor gets overloaded. Try not to charge your phone while using the tether app, as that makes it hotter.
One more tip: to keep and maintain a healthy battery on all phones, Once A Month: Drain your battery until the phone shuts off, then charge it to 100% while off.
Also remember, this phone is the best in signal and call clarity.
Remember to update your PRL once a month, to get better service.
Good luck, I hope I helped! Looking forward towards your reply.
PS- You may have a faulty phone, the first couple batches of Photons were kinda iffy. Go to your point of purchase or call/email them, and you may get a free replacement. If all else fails, contact Motorola.
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The only BIG issue I had was the silent calls but hey now thats fixed other than that hmmm.... its not .2 inches bigger and it doesn't have a Samoled+ screen oh and seriously I miss the notification toggles other than that the phone has been great.
Does seem however your phone is faulty out of the many people here only a few have real issues with the phone
noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Came from a BB 9650. I had an XPERT and hated it.
Got the Photon and had the same issues you have.
After the updates it was much better but still getting hot. I finally exchanged it and now running the same apps no more heat issues.
I had a problem with entering TXT or dialing and that was an app crashing the phone. Not sure what app but I went back to bare minimum including a fair number of apps and an exchange email client and no more issues.
I think you need to exchange the phone before you make a final decision.
My last 4 phones (Tilt, Fuze, Evo and Mopho) all get hot tethering, you are, more or less, draining the battery at a high rate of speed!. 2nd, there are a MILLION different options for another keybord, use one of the suggestions here or search until you find one YOU like. As far as restarts, one, you rooted it, two, its possible you have a broken phone?
Lastly (and trust me, I learned the HARD way!) Not all chargers are alike!! A friend of mine quit and left his BB charger and I figured I would use it for Evo. I could use that thing till the cows came home before I got maybe 30 or 40%? Even though the spec's looked the same, my chargers worked. Ended up using BB charger for bluetooth.
i would have to agree with everyone as well, my OG droid would get so hot i could barely even touch it, after about 15 minutes of WIFI tethering the battery would hit the 60c range and shortly turn off, even look at dedicated WIFI hotspots that are designed to be used constantly they get just as hot ( i had a mifi from Verizon, and i have a sprint 4g hotspot for work both get very hot)my mifi would slow to a crawwwwwl after about 6 hours of use till it cooled down. this is going to happen anytime you stick something like wifi in such a small form factor feel your wifi router at home its hot too and it at least has some notches for passive cooling. the fact of the matter is that all phones were not designed to do this long term. enjoy your 3d as its going to be the same deal for you.
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@noob2010, please check my revised post on page 1 of this thread.
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@noob2010, please check my revised post on page 1 of this thread.
Thanks,
Deedscreen!
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Love the MoPho signature, that's bang'n! Also, I'm getting this kit on Thursday. I'm excited. I hear the radio is exceptional and being blanketed in 4G like I am, it would be nice to pull a consistent 12Mbps. I can pull 8Mbps consistently with the OG Epic 4G so, hopefully this is even better!
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Love the MoPho signature, that's bang'n! Also, I'm getting this kit on Thursday. I'm excited. I hear the radio is exceptional and being blanketed in 4G like I am, it would be nice to pull a consistent 12Mbps. I can pull 8Mbps consistently with the OG Epic 4G so, hopefully this is even better!
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Thanks, it's custom made by myself... If you want something like this, PM me and I can work on something of your design... (when I get home.)
As for the 4G, Sprint is working hard with LightSquared on new 4G LTE, this may work with our phones, many users say no, but I've spoken to Motorola & Sprint Reps, and they have all said yes.
The radios are great! Call quality is superb! Motorola is best with these radio chips. We are packing a Tegra 2 dual core processor.
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i would have to agree with everyone as well, my OG droid would get so hot i could barely even touch it, after about 15 minutes of WIFI tethering the battery would hit the 60c range and shortly turn off, even look at dedicated WIFI hotspots that are designed to be used constantly they get just as hot ( i had a mifi from Verizon, and i have a sprint 4g hotspot for work both get very hot)my mifi would slow to a crawwwwwl after about 6 hours of use till it cooled down. this is going to happen anytime you stick something like wifi in such a small form factor feel your wifi router at home its hot too and it at least has some notches for passive cooling. the fact of the matter is that all phones were not designed to do this long term. enjoy your 3d as its going to be the same deal for you.
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My wife and I have the overdrive and even that thing gets smoking hot
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My EVO 4G would get very hot after tethering for some time, it's gonna happen no matter what phone you get since (as said before) you're draining the battery at a high rate.
There are tons of keyboards on the Android Market, you just need to find the one you like best. I personally use Thumb Keyboard.
My HTC Evo used to cook my eggs when I would tether. It's just one of those things that come along with tethering. This phone does has it's flaws but crappy, I think not.
noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Don't do it man I came from the evo3d to the photon. The evo3d gets hot just from internet browsing and phone calls alone and don't get me started on how it gets when you use GPS the only things that the evo3d has on the photon is sense 3.0 and more custom roms and kernels photon has better signal, call quality, wayyyyy louder speaker, stock battery life and camera. This is android. remember you can change damn near anything on ur phone that you don't like
If you take the time to look for it.
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I heard horrible reviews about heat issues with the 3D. So that just confirms it more.
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noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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I hate to be a complete **** and rain on your flaming parade, but next time do your research before complaining about issues caused by you and blaming them on the phone.
I purchased a Droid RAZR on the day it was released and it has been running just fine. As of right now I am satisfied but I ran into something that worried me slightly.
Earlier today I had my phone in the Kickstand case/belt clip and hadn't used it for about an hour. When I took the phone out of the belt clip it was scolding hot. Battery, screen, all of it. I regretfully didn't have something to monitor the temperature to check what it had gotten to, but it was nearing pain just to hold.
Has anyone else been running into overheating problems with their RAZR of this magnitude or does anyone know any cause/solutions? Any input would be appreciated.
Sounds like you had 4g turned on and a lot of activity going on
also sounds like it got hot, i did not "overheat".
My razr gets warm in the case too... Does your case have a magnetic closer thing? Mine does and I am wondering if that is playing a part as I know old motorola droids (Droid 1 ) would not play nice with magnetic cases.
Mine has never been got hot. Not even warm...
But I've heard that many of you are experiencing problems like this so, maybe, it's my device the exception.
P.S.: Always running in HSPA+ with data connected. It got a little warm after 30 minutes of playing on WebTop (on my ATRIX LapDock)
I noticed this today. Went without my otterbox on an after 10 min of listening to pandora the thing was almost to hot to touch. Going to exchange this.
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also sounds like it got hot, i did not "overheat".
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No it does not.
And there were not a lot of activities going on. Up until that point I had made a phone call. That was it. And I checked to see what was active and there wasnt aanything that shouldn't have been.
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Mine is XT910 and it is kinda cold even after surfing HSPDA+ for 15mins. The 4G LTE radio in the XT912 aka Droid Razr should be the cause of this issue. I believe they'll roll maintenance updates soon enough to fix this kind of baseband issues.
My device too has been getting hot. I have the Droid Razr. It will overheat with no case, weather i am streaming in 4g or not. constantly losing 4g connection. also once it is over heating it will begin to powercycle. I have also noticed now due to the over heating the kevlar backing now has a huge air bubble underneath it where it has come detached. you can run your finger across hte bottom and just hear the popping sound of it moving around.
Check in Display Settings if In-Pocket detection is ticked. You never know. It is an active process if ticked.
For the past couple days I've noticed when I am in bed I've been using my fiance's EVO 3D charger and it's been heating up the screen pretty good, hot enough to really feel it on your palm of hand, not warm, i'm talking hot. I unplug it, shut it down and within minutes it's cool again.
is this an LTE phone?
I noticed the phone get hot (noticeably hotter than expected) the first day of use when I was hammering LTE and opening/closing things. I didn't use LTE a lot after that. I used the (google) navigator app in the car for a good 11 hours straight and it barely got warm but using 3g.
Since then, I've installed the leaked update which contains a new radio and updates the os to 2.3.6. I've been running 4G and It hasn't been anywhere close to hot. It might get SLIGHTLY warm while downloading/watching some youtube vids but it seems much improved.
No such issues with mine. Scolding hot? You sure you are not exaggerating a little?
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For the past couple days I've noticed when I am in bed I've been using my fiance's EVO 3D charger and it's been heating up the screen pretty good, hot enough to really feel it on your palm of hand, not warm, i'm talking hot. I unplug it, shut it down and within minutes it's cool again.
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Man, Razr has a high voltage battery..... dont ever try to charge it with another phone's charger,,,,
you can charge via laptop.....
My GSM RAZR does get hot, but after about 20 mins of browsing the net + chatting + fb all using 3g....get worried at times...but it goes off. just hoping for my back cover not to bulge, like some has.
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Man, Razr has a high voltage battery..... dont ever try to charge it with another phone's charger,,,,
you can charge via laptop.....
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Just how 'high' do you think the voltage is on the battery? I have used various chargers and they all work fine.
I had to echange my Razr after 2 weeks because the camera kept freezing but 4-5 times I would feel my pocket get hot. It was very hot and would partially drain the battery quick. Only have 3G in my area. I would reboot it and it would cool down.The new Razr has always stayed cool.
I've had similar problems in the past with my phone randomly becoming extremely hot and the battery dying within a few hours. I eventually downloaded an app called Android System Info on the market. It will tell you exactly what processes are running and how much of the CPU they are using. I found out that a process named android.process.media was starting and hogging 70% or more of my CPU at random intervals. After some research I figured out this was possibly caused by my phone attempting to sync with the media on my micro SD card and failing, but continuously retrying.
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Man, Razr has a high voltage battery..... dont ever try to charge it with another phone's charger,,,,
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Disregard that message as it is ridiculous.
If the Razr couldn't be used with a standard micro-usb charger then they would have put a proprietary charger port on it. And secondly, even the cheapest plug-in charger has far more juice than what a laptop USB port provides.
When I first received my RAZR, it too became very, very hot at times. Uncomfortably hot. To the point where I feared for internal components. On the plus side, some of those 'black blotches' under the screen seemed to disappear.
As above, narrowed it down to the media scanner. Solution was initially to use the phone without an SD card, but that was hardly a long term fix. In the end, I rooted, froze the terrible Blur music app, hid as many folders as possible with .nomedia files, and used the feature of PowerAMP that disables the system media scanner for its database.
Have not had the same problem on 2.3.6 firmware, thankfully.
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Ok so my co-worker just came in with at Droid 4 (God rest his soul) and was explaining to me he was informed you can't take the batt our or you void your warranty.
So he too the back of and sure as **** they have the IMEI sticker over top the batt and over laps so you have to cut it and the batt is screwed down....Hmmm looks like an attempt to stop you from rooting your phone cause you can't batt pull.
Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.
Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?
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Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?
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Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!
Here's a quote from Android Central:
"The most interesting part of the teardown focuses on the Droid 4's troublesome non-removable battery. The teardown process revealed that in addition to a warning sticker, the battery is fixed in place with Torx screws and glue, making removal challenging and potentially hazardous. Putting pressure on a lithium ion battery tends to cause bad things -- like explosions -- to happen, so iFix recommends gently prising it out with a spudger."
Maybe that's why they have the warning sticker on it. The battery they use may be hazardous. Still, non removable batteries suck.
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Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!
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yeah, it sucks how companies these days often try to control to much. As far as the battery removal, I have found that on my Droid X2 I have removed the battery dozens of times back when I wasn't rooted.... the software is just junk, so it requires battery pull at times!
That's one of the reasons I traded up from an iPhone as its easier to carry a spare battery than find somewhere to charge especially when travelling
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Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.
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Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.
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Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)
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Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.
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The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.
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Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)
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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.
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The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.
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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.
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Name a Moron/jackass who allows you to access the battery compartment but doesn't let you remove it: Motorola! Ding, ding, ding! Congratulations!
What, is the battery a "museum piece"?? Do you open the battery cover and say, "Oh look darling! The flare from the sim/sd card slot accentuates the artistic impressions on the sticker above the battery. How wonderful, hmm.."?
Nonsense. Only explanation, and this is a logical one: Motorola is SOOO out of money, they couldn't even afford to redesign the Droid 4 so that the 4g/sd card slot is outside the battery compartment and the boss said we need a non-user replaceable battery. So, the clueless monkeys at Moto glued that POS.. Good one moto.. Next time, may be you guys can retrofit the X2 chassis with a 4.7 inch screen and add plastic bits to "Extend" the hull... And glue it on with some duck tape... Now that is a killer phone!
It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.
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It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.
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That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/
litetaker said:
That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/
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Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone
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Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone
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LOL! Buy a long enough string, I wanna talk to ya!
The cellphone companies in this country are throttling innovation and inspiration, oh and the necks of their customers... Can't breathe.. here, Verizon, take this $10! Quick! Ahhh, much better...
Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.
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Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.
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AT&T and sprint share that trophy. Back at my home you never paid for incoming texts and phone Calls. I know it is an alien concept. And competition drove the prices rock bottom, here competition forced Verizon to charge more!!!
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Yea...I hear ya. I really can't complain terribly though....WHile i disagree completely with the fee...you cannot go anywhere else without this fee apparently unless you go to a small time carrier. I never have an issue with coverage and data speed it's always fast for me. with Verizon, I guess that is what really matters in your cell phone service. I'd rather pay a little more for reliability.
Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.
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Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.
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All this discussion of screwing consumers reminds me of Eric Cartman cribbing with his mom for effing him in the ass for not buying him an ipad 64 GB... Lol!!! that episode was hilarious
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I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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don't know either, the inc2 batteries are the same as the 4g except for the mah rating.
Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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good luck to ya, man
You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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yeah, we are supposed to get 50-60 mph winds, looks like a dandy.you guys are going to get the worst of it though, be safe
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You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
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I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres and all oak trees.
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I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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No, the incredible 2 batteries that were tried in the incredible 4, which are the same size and contact location, work but only one person tried charging and reported it wouldn't work. I'm planning on confirming that tomorrow. Since the battery isn't flipped from Inc 2 to the 4g polarity shouldn't be reversed. Unless the contact polarity inside the batteries themselves are reversed, but not sure why they would do that. To me I think it's worth a try to break the tabs and try them. If they don't work you shouldn't have any problem reusing them in the og incredible.
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres.
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I hear ya, I'm on well and septic but probably not as rural as what you have. Gotta love that wood burner tho. I have a simple insert in the living room that heats most of the first floor surprisingly. I'd love to put one in the basement ducted into the furnace but so far am happy with the insert. Don't have many power issues so I haven't bothered to wire a generator to the well yet.
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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I really like this idea. I've currently got a dock for my Rezound, and while it is more convenient than a loose cable most of the time, its still fan be a bit of a pain sometimes.
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dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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Right on.. I'll be able to tell that by the lightning symbol in the battery icon too.
Beep be damned! lol
I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
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I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
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Looks like a good choice, although more $ and out of stock apparently (for now).
dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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i was on the fence yesterday about getting it, and picked it up today and i am so glad i did. i especially like how firm of a grip it has. i still think i may pick up the energizer one from amazon so i can have one at home and one at the office
I'm thinking of picking up the LG pad (and ripping the speaker out) to put on my desk. I can't think of anything more convenient that just putting the phone down and it charging up. I'll probably continue to use a charger at night for now. I'm not really crazy about the LG pad, and you know there'll be more options out there soon. I'd rather hold off and get one that's maybe more stylish, or slimmer (and no beep!) before I invest in a second pad.
I'd like to see a USB powered pad if possible, so I could toss it in my bag and take it to work with me (no free outlets at my desk so I currently charge my phone through the USB port).
I just ordered the nokia charger from verizons website, it is compatible with DNA.
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I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
Matto2007 said:
I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
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What I'm worried about is the constant charging and discharging that will happen when we're forced to charge it over night, at work, and then in the car.
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
luke1333 said:
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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Could you provide a link please
luke1333 said:
...dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
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Could you provide a link please
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right here man....
http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Po...id=1353287259&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+charging+pad
welcome!
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
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so it wont work an inch above at all?
I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
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I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
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the one i just picked up today says that it is wireless charger compatible, i will know for sure tomorrow when i get to the office and throw it on there. if it isnt, it will be going back super quick