Ok so my co-worker just came in with at Droid 4 (God rest his soul) and was explaining to me he was informed you can't take the batt our or you void your warranty.
So he too the back of and sure as **** they have the IMEI sticker over top the batt and over laps so you have to cut it and the batt is screwed down....Hmmm looks like an attempt to stop you from rooting your phone cause you can't batt pull.
Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.
Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?
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Wtf does battery pull have to do with rooting?
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Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!
Here's a quote from Android Central:
"The most interesting part of the teardown focuses on the Droid 4's troublesome non-removable battery. The teardown process revealed that in addition to a warning sticker, the battery is fixed in place with Torx screws and glue, making removal challenging and potentially hazardous. Putting pressure on a lithium ion battery tends to cause bad things -- like explosions -- to happen, so iFix recommends gently prising it out with a spudger."
Maybe that's why they have the warning sticker on it. The battery they use may be hazardous. Still, non removable batteries suck.
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Well occasionally **** ****s up and you have to pull the batt if an SBF was done before you wiped user data and your in a boot loop so I guess a lot!
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yeah, it sucks how companies these days often try to control to much. As far as the battery removal, I have found that on my Droid X2 I have removed the battery dozens of times back when I wasn't rooted.... the software is just junk, so it requires battery pull at times!
That's one of the reasons I traded up from an iPhone as its easier to carry a spare battery than find somewhere to charge especially when travelling
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Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.
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Guys seriously, Hold power and volume down for about 10 sec. Same as batt pull. Problem solved. I have had a xoom for over a year, when it freezes solid you do the same thing. I had a RAZR freeze as well while working on it, same button combo. Works every time. No removal needed.
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Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)
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Does the Droid 4 have an external storage Card? If so is it in the same place as the DX2? Because that would be pointless for motorola to do that since you have to remove the battery to get to it. How do they know you pulled the battery? And why dont they just make the battery non removable? Arent they doing that now with newer phones? I hate how Motorola thinks.
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The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.
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Not on Droid x2 sir( just tried it.)
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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.
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The droid 4 does not come with a card but it does have a slot. The location is under the battery cover on top of the battery right next to the 4g sim card. They know you pulled the battery because there is a sticker over the entire battery that must be peeled on the sides to remove the battery. If you are crafty you can do it. There is no need though. The ribbon cable on the bottom of the battery is screwed in with 2 star screws(Torx) i think a t-5 or t-4 in size. It does not have traditional battery pins and terminals. If you try to yank it out, it will break.
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No it will only work on devices with non-removable batteries. Since our X2s are removable, it does not have the function.
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Name a Moron/jackass who allows you to access the battery compartment but doesn't let you remove it: Motorola! Ding, ding, ding! Congratulations!
What, is the battery a "museum piece"?? Do you open the battery cover and say, "Oh look darling! The flare from the sim/sd card slot accentuates the artistic impressions on the sticker above the battery. How wonderful, hmm.."?
Nonsense. Only explanation, and this is a logical one: Motorola is SOOO out of money, they couldn't even afford to redesign the Droid 4 so that the 4g/sd card slot is outside the battery compartment and the boss said we need a non-user replaceable battery. So, the clueless monkeys at Moto glued that POS.. Good one moto.. Next time, may be you guys can retrofit the X2 chassis with a 4.7 inch screen and add plastic bits to "Extend" the hull... And glue it on with some duck tape... Now that is a killer phone!
It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.
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It gets even better starting the 22nd to upgrade there is a $30 charge on top of the phone cost itself.....T-Mobile here I come it looks like. Hell maybe Ma & Pa's small time wireless with two cans and a string.
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That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/
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That leaves you with just $12 in your pocket! T-mobile charges $18 for an upgrade... :/
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Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone
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Well it looks like two cans and a string is my next phone
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LOL! Buy a long enough string, I wanna talk to ya!
The cellphone companies in this country are throttling innovation and inspiration, oh and the necks of their customers... Can't breathe.. here, Verizon, take this $10! Quick! Ahhh, much better...
Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.
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Yea, its sad that all carriers are doing this. I believe ATT charges $36 to upgrade. I think they may be the worst as far as this fee goes.
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AT&T and sprint share that trophy. Back at my home you never paid for incoming texts and phone Calls. I know it is an alien concept. And competition drove the prices rock bottom, here competition forced Verizon to charge more!!!
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Yea...I hear ya. I really can't complain terribly though....WHile i disagree completely with the fee...you cannot go anywhere else without this fee apparently unless you go to a small time carrier. I never have an issue with coverage and data speed it's always fast for me. with Verizon, I guess that is what really matters in your cell phone service. I'd rather pay a little more for reliability.
Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.
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Well not to go totally off topic but it a growing trend Playstation and Xbox with their new consoles are looking to kill the Used game market. You would have to pay an unlock fee for used games and the games will be tied to your PSN accounts or Live accounts and the possibility of disk less games.....Seems a growing trend of Consumer getting ****ed in the end.
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All this discussion of screwing consumers reminds me of Eric Cartman cribbing with his mom for effing him in the ass for not buying him an ipad 64 GB... Lol!!! that episode was hilarious
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I just found out if you remove the battery door you get no service or data since the antenna connectors are on the battery door itself, this is lame! what if the door becomes loose over time, i wouldnt think they would do such thing.. The second i pop off the bottom part, data is gone, and once top doesnt touch the service is gone.
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I just found out if you remove the battery door you get no service or data since the antenna connectors are on the battery door itself, this is lame! what if the door becomes loose over time, i wouldnt think they would do such thing.. The second i pop off the bottom part, data is gone, and once top doesnt touch the service is gone.
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Thunderbolt was same way and my signal is still going strong.
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So that's what all that stuff is inside the back. That's pretty interesting, I just tried it and my data connection from 4G to 3G and from 2 bars to none.
yep it sucks in the way incase you do anything for example get different types of batteries or doors might have trouble with them.
If you get oversized batteries, then you get the oversized doors. Easy enough. I also have a Thunderbolt with the same type of door and never had a problem with it. More nitpicking.
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Yeah Idk why people are complaining about this. Don't run around with your back cover off like an idiot and you won't have problems lol. I don't see this as being an issue for any of us.
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Yeah Idk why people are complaining about this. Don't run around with your back cover off like an idiot and you won't have problems lol. I don't see this as being an issue for any of us.
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Agreed, I think it's actually a pretty clever way to place the antenna.
as far as the "coming loose" bit goes, I had that happen to my Thunderbolt. What I did was used needle nose pliers to bend each contact slightly + used "spark plug grease" from Napa Auto Parts to ensure they'd keep a good solid connection. Actually, I noticed it improved my signal afterwards.
yep i mean for times if the phone freezes or you need to do a battery pull, you take the cover off and eventually the battery cover becomes less resistant as it originally was. So far i havent had any issues to do a battery pull on the rezound but who knows
If it comes loose, warranty replacement overnight costs you nothing. Or, do voxigenboy said if you don't want to call Verizon.
this would be problematic if say... someone drops their phone during a ride, and they weren't able to find the battery cover. For most other phones it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but this case would leave you with a paperweight till you can get a new battery door
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this would be problematic if say... someone drops their phone during a ride, and they weren't able to find the battery cover. For most other phones it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but this case would leave you with a paperweight till you can get a new battery door
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What if we don't worry about this issue until it actually happens? Or keep the phone in a case or something.
lol i like the "lets just not bring it up till something happens." Seems like one of those oh the third wheel is missing but dont worry untill the car tilts over haha. But also for the person who said overnight is free... no its not they dont free overnight warrenty replacement anymore, they charge you for it! if you want free now you need to wait 3-5 business days.
The battery door hold's the Antenna's for LTE and EVDO for rx diversity. The CDMA 1xRTT voice antenna is located elsewhere..
They don't free overnight? Sure they do. Every replacement I get for my customers comes free overnight the next day.
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lol then i guess its different on the east coast, im in CA we have a verizon store down here as well, for the past 3-4 months all our customers complain about it too, even the corporate stores tell us when we go in, overnight isnt free anymore. Also i dont know about it being just the EVDO and LTE but when my door is off, my phone says no service period. No bard No data no nothing lol.
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yep i mean for times if the phone freezes or you need to do a battery pull, you take the cover off and eventually the battery cover becomes less resistant as it originally was. So far i havent had any issues to do a battery pull on the rezound but who knows
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I switch batteries on my thunderbolt at least 3 times a day for the last 6 months and have had no problems with the back not going back on. You are making this an issue when it is not.
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The battery door hold's the Antenna's for LTE and EVDO for rx diversity. The CDMA 1xRTT voice antenna is located elsewhere..
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is this the same as the thunderbolt with 2 radios? I hadn't heard either way. The thunderbolt was the only phone that had that.
most 4g phones in this form factor are going to use antenas that are in the back cover... And if you drop your phone and the battery cover goes flying, then shame on you for not having some sort of case on the phone...
And yes, the TB is the same way.
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lol i like the "lets just not bring it up till something happens." Seems like one of those oh the third wheel is missing but dont worry untill the car tilts over haha. But also for the person who said overnight is free... no its not they dont free overnight warrenty replacement anymore, they charge you for it! if you want free now you need to wait 3-5 business days.
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They literally just warranty replaced my X2 last weekend and shipped it to me Via FedEx on a SATURDAY for free. So, yes they do still do it. You just have to know what you are talking about, or have a good rep apparently.
From Saturday morning. And I shipped the phone right back out to the MIUI Developer in the X2 forum Monday morning and it made it to his house Tuesday https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...hLUC_jspRXg/s1440/2011-11-12_17-03-17_988.jpg
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They don't free overnight? Sure they do. Every replacement I get for my customers comes free overnight the next day.
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yep, the guy has no idea what he is talking about, lol.
Watching the michigan illinois game in the background like a boss.
So in the beginning of July I dropped my Rezound in some water, and it voided those water sensors on the back, and thought it has been functioning fine, you can notice that there is/was water under the very back of the screen when it is a white screen and it messes up from here to there but has worked alright. So I used my upgrade in March to get this phone and Verizon basically said I can buy a new phone at full price or else I'm screwed and stuck with it. Besides just finding someone on craigslist, ebay, etc.. anyone got any ideas on how I can get a new Rezound on the cheap or anything else 4g from Verizon on the cheap that isn't a turd, or somehow I can get a discount?
Just looking for any input, I'm fine with it now, but it's just annoying, and I'm not sure how long the phone will be operational.
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So in the beginning of July I dropped my Rezound in some water, and it voided those water sensors on the back, and thought it has been functioning fine, you can notice that there is/was water under the very back of the screen when it is a white screen and it messes up from here to there but has worked alright. So I used my upgrade in March to get this phone and Verizon basically said I can buy a new phone at full price or else I'm screwed and stuck with it. Besides just finding someone on craigslist, ebay, etc.. anyone got any ideas on how I can get a new Rezound on the cheap or anything else 4g from Verizon on the cheap that isn't a turd, or somehow I can get a discount?
Just looking for any input, I'm fine with it now, but it's just annoying, and I'm not sure how long the phone will be operational.
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Ur pretty much screwed bro
Do you not have insurance on your line?
Check out TeamBAMF's marketplace... they have some Thunderbolts and Rezounds for sale there.
Plug it into a charger, wrap it in a paper towel and put it in a bag of dry rice and let it sit for a few days. I've saved an iPhone and a camera that way.
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Plug it into a charger, wrap it in a paper towel and put it in a bag of dry rice and let it sit for a few days. I've saved an iPhone and a camera that way.
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Putting it on a charger doesn't even make any sense
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Plug it into a charger, wrap it in a paper towel and put it in a bag of dry rice and let it sit for a few days. I've saved an iPhone and a camera that way.
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Why do you plug in the charger?
Perhaps a little heat to help drive out the water? Just my guess.
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So in the beginning of July I dropped my Rezound in some water, and it voided those water sensors on the back, and thought it has been functioning fine, you can notice that there is/was water under the very back of the screen when it is a white screen and it messes up from here to there but has worked alright. So I used my upgrade in March to get this phone and Verizon basically said I can buy a new phone at full price or else I'm screwed and stuck with it. Besides just finding someone on craigslist, ebay, etc.. anyone got any ideas on how I can get a new Rezound on the cheap or anything else 4g from Verizon on the cheap that isn't a turd, or somehow I can get a discount?
Just looking for any input, I'm fine with it now, but it's just annoying, and I'm not sure how long the phone will be operational.
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You can buy replacement stickers on Amazon.... Replace the stickers and warranty that ****
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Why do you plug in the charger?
Perhaps a little heat to help drive out the water? Just my guess.
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Exactly. Putting it on the dashboard of your car works too, just make sure it's completely covered in rice so it doesn't get too hot. After all, you can bake cookies on your dashboard nowadays.
Oh! I forgot to mention taking the back off, for better airflow. Removing the battery, SIM and SD card don't hurt either, but I don't think the charger will work if you remove the battery. None of my other phones ever have but I've never tried it with my Rezound.
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Exactly. Putting it on the dashboard of your car works too, just make sure it's completely covered in rice so it doesn't get too hot. After all, you can bake cookies on your dashboard nowadays.
Oh! I forgot to mention taking the back off, for better airflow. Removing the battery, SIM and SD card don't hurt either, but I don't think the charger will work if you remove the battery. None of my other phones ever have but I've never tried it with my Rezound.
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No, it doesn't work without a battery. Unless your in bootloader.
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Exactly. Putting it on the dashboard of your car works too, just make sure it's completely covered in rice so it doesn't get too hot. After all, you can bake cookies on your dashboard nowadays.
Oh! I forgot to mention taking the back off, for better airflow. Removing the battery, SIM and SD card don't hurt either, but I don't think the charger will work if you remove the battery. None of my other phones ever have but I've never tried it with my Rezound.
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Putting it on the charger can make the water damage worse. Put it in the sun or something but don't put it on the charger. Water + electricity = kablam
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Putting it on the charger can make the water damage worse. Put it in the sun or something but don't put it on the charger. Water + electricity = kablam
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Just like Pokémon.
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Just like Pokémon.
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exactly!
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You can buy replacement stickers on Amazon.... Replace the stickers and warranty that ****
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Whaaat theres no way
Thanks for the input everyone
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Putting it on the charger can make the water damage worse. Put it in the sun or something but don't put it on the charger. Water + electricity = kablam
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He did say it's been working fine other then the water in the phone...
You can check the marketplace here on XDA too. I've seen some rezounds for around $200.
We're only talking about 5V, 1A, which isn't a lot of power. Yes, at high voltage or high current, water and electricity don't mix but I'm sure he's charged it since he dropped it. I've saved devices in exactly this way in the past. Screens are the the hardest part to save, though. The touchscreen on my old iPhone needed to be replaced because the bottom half stopped responding to touches and the camera has a very faint shadow in the screen if you hold it at a certain angle in bright light. Both devices otherwise work perfectly but I hardly use them any more because they've been replaced by my Rezound.
I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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I have several of the original Incredible batteries that are 3.7VDC, 1300mAh, 4.81Whr lying around and with Sandy coming for a visit here in NJ, I was wondering if these can be used as backups for the 4G LTE Incredible (3.8VDC, 1700mAh, 6.46Whr). I do expect to lose power since we do for all major storms and I have a generator but would be nice if these can be used in this phone. If so, could these be charged in this phone as well? Thanks!
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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i think they'll work in the phone ok but i switched batteries on my inc2 to my 4g buy mistake one time, phone worked fine, but would not charge, don;t know why or if this was an isolated situation, i'd test it and see.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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If his generator fails, he'll have no way to charge it anyway.
I don't know if the Incredible battery is the same physical size, but if it works, great. I'd have to spend some time finding my original Incredible, then taking my cases off both phones, then switching out the batteries to check.
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don't know either, the inc2 batteries are the same as the 4g except for the mah rating.
Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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Well, after getting them charged up in my son's Inc, I decided to try one in my 4G phone and while they are the same physical size they won't fit. The tabs on the contacts end are different. Damn...
My generator won't fail, I treat it like my baby! Cover it up at night when it's all cold and change it's oil on a regular basis. :fingers-crossed:
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good luck to ya, man
You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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Thanks! We've lived through plenty before but they seem to think this one might pack more of a wallop. I travel a lot and was suppose to head up to Boston for the week but decided to cancel all my appointments today. No reason to risk one's safety for a job. It looks like Pittsburgh will be getting some of this as well!
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yeah, we are supposed to get 50-60 mph winds, looks like a dandy.you guys are going to get the worst of it though, be safe
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You should be able to use those batteries. People that switched from the original incredible to the incredible 2 reported being able to use their old batteries. It did require them to file down the tabs on the old batteries but after that they fit fine and worked. Since we discovered recently that the incredible 2 batteries work in the 4g it should work out fine for you. Not sure about charging but in your case you'll probably want to limit you generator to essential things.
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I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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Btw during large storms like that where you lose power, how does Verizon's network hold up? If the towers lose power doesn't that mean the network goes down in that area too?
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres and all oak trees.
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I was thinking of doing that but one thing I'm concerned about is the label and contacts placement on battery. On the original Dinc, the contacts are opposite (left-to-right) of the 4G. This could be why the older batteries won't charge.
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No, the incredible 2 batteries that were tried in the incredible 4, which are the same size and contact location, work but only one person tried charging and reported it wouldn't work. I'm planning on confirming that tomorrow. Since the battery isn't flipped from Inc 2 to the 4g polarity shouldn't be reversed. Unless the contact polarity inside the batteries themselves are reversed, but not sure why they would do that. To me I think it's worth a try to break the tabs and try them. If they don't work you shouldn't have any problem reusing them in the og incredible.
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In the past, it hasn't been too big of a problem and even our cable has worked when running on generator. Of course you never know what the next storm will bring. Last spring we were out of power for 5 days and Freehold 8 miles away was over 10 days. I had neighbors lined up to take showers (everyone here is on a well). My generator runs the well, one furnace, frig and a couple of circuits of lights. I won't let the kids plug in the big LED TV so they use the old 36" tube TV that's >25 years old and going strong. The winter isn't an issue because we have a high efficiency wood insert downstairs which will run you out of the house if you open it up. The benefits of living on 5 acres.
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I hear ya, I'm on well and septic but probably not as rural as what you have. Gotta love that wood burner tho. I have a simple insert in the living room that heats most of the first floor surprisingly. I'd love to put one in the basement ducted into the furnace but so far am happy with the insert. Don't have many power issues so I haven't bothered to wire a generator to the well yet.
I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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Personally HOX+ hands down. SG3 dual core vs. HOX+ quad core + 1, really no comparison. Only thing the SG3 has on the HOX+ is the 2gb of ram and sd card slot i believe it has in the USA version. I played with the SG3 in the store as before i knew anything about the HOX+ i was thinking to get it over the new iphone 5. Thing looks and feels like a cheap piece of plastic and not liking it at all and the dull colors the screen produces. Really personally preference on your part but if going off the specs along the HOX+ hands down imo at least.
Walk into the ATT store tomorrow and be the first to play with the HOX+ in the store and i think instantly you will make your mind up .
SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
sdbe said:
SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
deeznuts said:
I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
Bigred007 said:
Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
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Battery pull on S3 for hard reset is same as holding power button for about 10 seconds on One X, yields same results and cold boots device
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An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
Sharpshooterrr said:
An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
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Well of course but who the heck holds onto the same device for 3+ years, lol? Not matter how cutting edge your current device is (this for example for the time being as in today, who knows about tomorrow), in a few months and for sure in a year your device will be outdated even with the latest software upgrades and you'll be drooling over the next best thing. Longest i've ever kept a device was 2yrs and that was the Iphone 4 when it first came out. Only reason why i held out so long is because i didn't like the S3 at all and had high hopes for the Iphone 5 which is a joke compared to what's out now. 3 years, that's crazy talk my friend
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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I guess it depends upon one's lifestyle. I also charge my phone all night but during the day I am constantly moving. If I get to 20% by 5pm and then need to go out I like to have a spare battery in my pocket or briefcase. Also using the phone as a gps or tethering, which I do during the day, tends to drain the battery more than standby or talking. I spend a lot of time in airports and always see the poor folks gathered around the charging stands or wired to outlets in the floor. I don't have that problem if I have a couple of spare batteries charged. I can use the phone in the airport then on the plane. It takes 30 seconds to change a battery compared to hours to charge. Battery life is irrelevant if you can just replace them when they are dead, it doesn't matter if you get 12 hours or 24. At $4 each you can carry as may spares as you need.
But unfortunately it seems that the SG3 is the last top tier phone with a removable battery. The hox+, LG Optimus G, Sony Experia TL, and the Nokia Lumia 920 all have embedded batteries. Regardless I may end up with a hox+ and have to change the habits that I have developed since 2005. Maybe I will carry one of those AA battery recharging gadgets as a security blanket.
I have 3 issues with my current phone.
1- It has a bright spot on the screen. I'm not sure if it is a bright pixel or what but it only glares when I am on a white screen and it is about the size of a period.
2- My speakerphone sounds blown... it crackles every time i use it.
3- My phone takes 8+ hours to charge no matter what charger I am using. OEM or not.
Now. Do you feel any of those issues would get a replacement? I do not have insurance but my phone is still under warranty since I got mine in February.
Try a program called dead pixel test(market) and then tell Verizon your results. I always run my refurb phones through a battery of tests.
To your last? Are you rooted? If so change kernels and or calibrate your battery and steal your kids chargers and test.good luck
PS I gave you a free txs
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takota6 said:
Try a program called dead pixel test(market) and then tell Verizon your results. I always run my refurb phones through a battery of tests.
To your last? Are you rooted? If so change kernels and or calibrate your battery and steal your kids chargers and test.good luck
PS I gave you a free txs
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Not rooted.
The dead pixel test puts that black menu bar at the bottom of the screen.... and that is where the issue is.
mwl1119 said:
I have 3 issues with my current phone.
1- It has a bright spot on the screen. I'm not sure if it is a bright pixel or what but it only glares when I am on a white screen and it is about the size of a period.
2- My speakerphone sounds blown... it crackles every time i use it.
3- My phone takes 8+ hours to charge no matter what charger I am using. OEM or not.
Now. Do you feel any of those issues would get a replacement? I do not have insurance but my phone is still under warranty since I got mine in February.
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Sound like excellent reasons to get a replacement.
Where did you get it?
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Went ahead and took it into Verizon and they plugged it in to see what it did but that didn't matter as soon as the chick saw the spot on the screen she ordered my replacement.
A lot easier than I expected and whole lot easier than things were with T-mobile.
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Went ahead and took it into Verizon and they plugged it in to see what it did but that didn't matter as soon as the chick saw the spot on the screen she ordered my replacement.
A lot easier than I expected and whole lot easier than things were with T-mobile.
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I've always had good experiences with Verizon like that. Normally the most I've seen the do is check for water damage. They're usually very understanding and don't mind helping out if they can. That's why I love big red!
So I have a similar screen issue, but mine is a blue haze in the middle of the screen. Also been having the SIM card error problem. I called VZW today and they're sending me one of the certified like new devices. However, they did mention if there was any damage to the phone I would be charged $299. I mentioned that the plastic cover over the charging port had broken off like day 2 I had the phone. She said she's not sure if that would or would not be considered enough damage to charge the fee. Has anyone sent it back with the broken cover and had any issues being charged?
These are the terms for a certified like new device as written up by Droid-Life.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/3...nt-program-phone-protection-plans-now-a-must/
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Verizon has been good about replacements. Sadly I am on my third. First one had a broken headphone jack, replacement had a stuck pixel, and now I'm hoping for no more problems haha.
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Mnorton1228 said:
I've always had good experiences with Verizon like that. Normally the most I've seen the do is check for water damage. They're usually very understanding and don't mind helping out if they can. That's why I love big red!
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Yea I'll say we get screwed on the bill but every time I've had an issue like that they've been good about it.
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