One feature I would like the gear fit to have would be an exercise app that continuously reads your heart rate.
Also have vibrating warning as your heart rate go up and down.
Example:
If your heart rate is to high, vibrate continuously until it gets lower. And short vibrations if its too low.
That would be perfect for people who want to work out and stay in a specific heat rate zone.
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One feature I would like the gear fit to have would be an exercise app that continuously reads your heart rate.
Also have vibrating warning as your heart rate go up and down.
Example:
If your heart rate is to high, vibrate continuously until it gets lower. And short vibrations if its too low.
That would be perfect for people who want to work out and stay in a specific heat rate zone.
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Even if there was a development kit doubt it be possible with the way the watch gets the heart rate.
If it kept that light on all the time I expect the battery be dead in a few hours tops
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Even if there was a development kit doubt it be possible with the way the watch gets the heart rate.
If it kept that light on all the time I expect the battery be dead in a few hours tops
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It already does continuous heart rate monitoring in running mode. But I don't just run. That's what I'm using now for my work outs, as long as the gear fit is on tight it gets good readings. Just would be nice if could get vibration feedback instead of having to look at the watch.
I was hoping to track my heart rate over time, even when not working out. Can the Fit do this in any easy way?
I would be ok with 5/10 minute intervals. A little different that what you need but it could just be a difference in settings.
yeah I was also hoping something like that was possible.. maybe some devs will make it in the near future
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Yeah. How else would you track calories burned from other forms of fitness? This is seriously a big hole in the capabilities of this device.
Hi,
it's possible to have an app like Jawbone UP for Samsung gear fit?
thanks a lot
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It already does continuous heart rate monitoring in running mode. But I don't just run. That's what I'm using now for my work outs, as long as the gear fit is on tight it gets good readings. Just would be nice if could get vibration feedback instead of having to look at the watch.
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Has anyone attempted to monitor HR all night using "Walk" mode? I'm thinking about attempting it tonight. I really think this watch could be a great exercise training tool to see how you are recovering. It's is completely useless for running "Distance" works fine as a stop watch.
would be amazing to see heart rate at 30 min intervals with no button pressing!!!
Hi. I'd join the topic paster with the request of app. I have Samsung Gear Fit and it would be very interesting to have such app. If it's possible. I'm even ready to donate (a fear price). My phone - Samsung Galaxy S4. If it's possible - please let me know. Thank you. BR
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Tomorrow I'm getting my hands on the new SWR12 aka SmartBand 2. If you're preparing to buy one too, ask me anything regarding compatibility with the Z2.
After I had some time with it I'll try to write a review and compare the second generation with SWR10 aka SmartBand.
I'm quite curious about battery life. Wondering, if the new generation will last longer on battery without pulse monitoring.
First impressions:
Both the SWR12 core and band are made of different materials than SWR10. It feels more slippy.
Good news is that the SWR10 bands perfectly fit the new core. So you can use your old leather band with the new core.
The new band feels comfortable and the new lock is much better - no way this is going to fell of occasionally.
Great news is that the new SWR12 is compatible with SmartLock (Lollipop). So you can use it as a unlock device even though this is a BLE device. Yup, also works after a restart etc. I tested it very carefully, because I couldn't believe it Wondering if Sony is going to fix this for the first gen SmartBand....
The Heart Rate monitor is working better than expected, but I need to test this more to give a more reliable conclusion.
is it possbile to use heart rate measurements in 3rd party apps (Sports tracker in particular)? which new fuctions other than HR present in swr12 vs swr10?
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is it possbile to use heart rate measurements in 3rd party apps (Sports tracker in particular)?
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The SmartBand 2 host app only mentions Google Fit (there is a switch to enable synchronizing pulse rate with it). However there is a note that the pulse data is synchronized only if you measure your pulse using manual control. So for example if you want to measure your pulse every 10 minutes (like the Livelog does), that's not possible. So basically there are two options avaliable: Realtime pulse tracking or No pulse tracking at all.
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which new fuctions other than HR present in swr12 vs swr10?
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New strap
Colored notification LEDs
Smart Lock support for Lollipop
Standalone app (no need to use lifelog to measure steps etc.)
Google fit support
Quiet mode (Night mode replacement, probably you won't need to set when you sleep - it should track this without any interaction - for example during after-dinner sleep - still needs testing)
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Tomorrow I'm getting my hands on the new SWR12 aka SmartBand 2. If you're preparing to buy one too, ask me anything regarding compatibility with the Z2.
After I had some time with it I'll try to write a review and compare the second generation with SWR10 aka SmartBand.
I'm quite curious about battery life. Wondering, if the new generation will last longer on battery without pulse monitoring.
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where do you bought it? any web site to do it?
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where do you bought it? any web site to do it?
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I actually made this thread, because I guess I'm one of the first to get this device. I had huge trouble finding it - even ebay doesn't sell it.
When suddenly I looked at the local auction website "Allegro" in Poland and noticed that the official Sony re-seller called "M-point" has them in stock.
Link to the auction: http://allegro.pl/sony-swr12-smartband-2-czarny-i5653196214.html
Link to the reseller website: http://www.sklep.m-point.pl/4650-Sony-SWR12-SmartBand-2-czarny.html
No idea, if the shop ships internationally.
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Night mode replacement, probably you won't need to set when you sleep - it should track this without any interaction - for example during after-dinner sleep - still needs testing
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Just tested and indeed you don't need to use night mode to track your sleep - all is done automatically. That's superb!
It takes about 25 seconds to measure the pulse rate - lets call this a "cold start". After this period it measures in real time.
So take this into account, if you want just to check manually for your PR from time to time you'll need to wait a few seconds for the test to complete. This also applies to SWR12 STAMINA-mode.
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Could you make a test of how long the battery lasts when you permanently measure your heart rate. This would be interesting for me, because the main point I'm interested in is to have a 24h measurement of my heart rate - awake and asleep.
Thx
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Could you make a test of how long the battery lasts when you permanently measure your heart rate. This would be interesting for me, because the main point I'm interested in is to have a 24h measurement of my heart rate - awake and asleep.
Thx
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The heart rate is measured every 10 minutes by default. That way it should last for 2 days.
With Heart activity mode enabled (measures the heart rate more often than 10 minutes (every 5 minutes?) it should last for 10 hours.
Which mode would you like me to test? Also, I'm getting quite much notifications during the day, this could lessen the battery life.
EDIT: I was heavy testing the device yesterday, updating it's firmware, pairing with different devices, measuring heart rate in activity mode for some time etc and the battery lasted for about 28h. I did not use the STAMINA mode at all.
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The heart rate is measured every 10 minutes by default. That way it should last for 2 days.
With Heart activity mode enabled (measures the heart rate more often than 10 minutes (every 5 minutes?) it should last for 10 hours.
Which mode would you like me to test? Also, I'm getting quite much notifications during the day, this could lessen the battery life.
EDIT: I was heavy testing the device yesterday, updating it's firmware, pairing with different devices, measuring heart rate in activity mode for some time etc and the battery lasted for about 28h. I did not use the STAMINA mode at all.
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I would be interested in "heart rate in activity mode always on". I understand that in this mode the heart rate is measured permanently and not "only" every 10 minutes (which actually should be sufficent for most use cases).
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I would be interested in "heart rate in activity mode always on". I understand that in this mode the heart rate is measured permanently and not "only" every 10 minutes (which actually should be sufficent for most use cases).
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It's definitely not a constant measure in "heart rate in activity mode always on", because if I peek under the smartband 2 during this mode - it's not always emitting the green light (required to measure the pulse). So it's more often, but still not always on. The heart rate monitoring is only always on (permanent), if you keep the SWR12 app open (and keep the smartphone screen on). That's from my observation.
Difference between normal mode (2 days battery life) and activity mode (10 h battery life)
This diagram was recorded during 16h of usage (14h normal mode - 2h activity mode).
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I would be interested in "heart rate in activity mode always on". I understand that in this mode the heart rate is measured permanently and not "only" every 10 minutes (which actually should be sufficent for most use cases).
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I just fully charged my SWR12. You're right after all. I'm now peeking under the core every few minutes and the green light is always flashing. So yes, in activity mode the pulse is measured in real time. Sorry for my last reply, I made a mistake
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I just fully charged my SWR12. You're right after all. I'm now peeking under the core every few minutes and the green light is always flashing. So yes, in activity mode the pulse is measured in real time. Sorry for my last reply, I made a mistake
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Thx for your investigation. So with "always on" the smartband will not last for a whole day. But with "nomal mode" you are able to cover a whole day and maybe a second day.
So using "normal mode" and "always on" for sports and charging the smartband every day in the evening would be a way to go if you are really interested in your heart rate.
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Thx for your investigation. So with "always on" the smartband will not last for a whole day. But with "nomal mode" you are able to cover a whole day and maybe a second day.
So using "normal mode" and "always on" for sports and charging the smartband every day in the evening would be a way to go if you are really interested in your heart rate.
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I just finished testing the always on mode and I got exactly 12 h and 35 minutes of battery life. It might get even better after a few charge/discharge cycles.
So if I would plan to do an Iron Man challenge, I would need to hurry up
Just kidding.
Thank you very much for your test and your answers. I just saw that the Smartband is now available on amazon.de and I'm going to buy one now :good:
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So if I would plan to do an Iron Man challenge, I would need to hurry up
Just kidding.
Thank you very much for your test and your answers. I just saw that the Smartband is now available on amazon.de and I'm going to buy one now :good:
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I found something interesting: actually I didn't fully charge my band... Because the green LED indicates that the SWR12 is charged over 90%, so to fully charge I had to charge it for a qouple minutes longer... :sly:
Hi there. When you are using the continuous hr (always on), the only way to check your hr is checking the phone? I would like to use the band to practice sports but I would not be able to check the phone screen.
I know the band doesn't have a display (like fitbit charge hr). But if it was possible to check at least the zone you are (by the color of the led blinking for example) it would be OK to me.
Can tou test if it's possible to check your zone just looking to the band please?
Thanks very much!
What do you guys think of the continue heart rate monitor? Is it worth the battery life? Does the watch still periodical take heart rate by it self if you turn continuous heart rate monitor off?
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What do you guys think of the continue heart rate monitor? Is it worth the battery life? Does the watch still periodical take heart rate by it self if you turn continuous heart rate monitor off?
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Idk, I've left in on for 24h , and it didn't significantly drain the battery, almost no difference. It did warn me once during biking to chill as my heartrate went over set value of, i think 130.
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Yes, it's taking heart rate periodically. How else should work? But it's not taking all time as during the workout. Not sure about interval, every couple of minutes. Maybe 15... Of course, there's impact on battery. From my experience, about half day of 5.
I turned it off, at first to test battery impact. Then figure out that I'm not missing it.
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I don't think so.
I turned on continuous heart rate like last month and it drains more battery, but it doesn't provide much information to you, and for me, I don't even go and look about it. It just stays there until I turned it off yesterday.
So I bought the pace model.
Did an interval workout on the treadmill, after I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second. Which was nice and well becase i know thats where I end up at the end of those 4 minutes.
However, after that I did some strength training, and then finished off with some uphill walk on the treadmill where the treadmill measued 150 BPS, and my watch... 88 BPS. I know 150 is more accurate because my breath was around there.
After that, it hasnt been able to register anything over 110 BPS. Tried it for several workout sessions, still doesnt measure above 110. I tried factory reset.. doesnt change anything.
Someone else seen this?
I'm testing one amazfit and comparing with one garmin 630.
Amazfit measures correct just after 10 minutes of workout and then, after some minutes it measures wrong about a minute or two, and back to measure correct again.
Very bad algorithm.
Has nothing to do with bad algorithm.
Why do you guys think that there is no gym workout on the watch?
Because there is no known wrist hr sensor that is working correct for that.
Doing workouts means bending and flexing the wrist, which means that the sensor looses contact, which means inaccuracy .
And 90% of people that complain, have the sensor on a spot that is not really working.
Have seen very hairy guys complaining or people that have the watch "between the hand and the bone".
And make sure it is tight.
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I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second.
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Holy crap, 195 beats PER SECOND!!?!! How are you still alive? Are you The Flash? Or possibly some kind of super smart hummingbird with an xda account (that would be cool).
Jokes aside, I also find the HRM on the Pace problematic.
It seems to work ok when you do "check now" as long as you stay still and its on tight. But whenever I use continuous HRM or do an activity like biking the reading seems to be about 20+ bps too high.
For example, I did "check now" just before a bike ride and got 65bpm, then again right after the ride and got 104bpm, but the bike activity recorded a starting heart rate of 84bpm and an ending rate of 134bpm.
yeah, sometimes my watch seems to measure my heart rate correctly, but other times it shows quite strange results.
I just finished indoor cycling workout. I used together Suunto Ambit watch with HR strap and Amazfit Pace. Amazfit HR data is useless. Here is merged image with both graphs.
Amazfit was tight, and my hand didn't moved to much. I tried several times to move hand on different positions to check is there any improvement, but without change.
Here is paralel graph (top is Suunto, bottom is Amazfit)
sometimes when physical exertion increases (when I go up a slope, for example) the heart beats are reduced.
The HR sensor in the pace seems about as accurate as someone guessing your heart rate from across the room.
Yes the bip is the same.
Absolute ****.
I've compared it with Polar watch + chest strap. There were differencies in the meassured pulse, however the average pulse for the trainings was very close on both devices. What is important for Peace, it has to be fastened very tightly on the wrist.
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I have compared Amazit Pace (1.3.6d) with Garmin Chest Strap HR monitor and FR235 doing Interval training running, and to FR235 optical HR monitior doing indoor biking.
In both activities Amazit Pace worked inestable the first 10 min then worked showing nearly same HR thank Strap HR and optical HR monitors.
Amazfit Pace showed a sudden decrease in HR reading about the middle of activities (about 1 hour each) and then back to proper reading.
In summary, Amazfit Pace uses about 10 min to have proper HR values, and sometimes during the activity has sudden decreases in HR reading.
For the rest of activity it performs quite well.
but you know that you can pair amazfit with a heart rate monitor strap, for example Polar H7?
This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
fzelle said:
This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
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oh, ok, i was talking about Stratos
heart rate sensor go crazy
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
ahander said:
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
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Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
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Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
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I bought my pace in Feb/18 (3 months ago)
my sweat is near to zero
never bath/shower using it
the pace work well until one week ago, when i need to do a factory reset because something was draining the battery too fast (one charge in one night)
after the reset, the battery issue has gone, and the watch work well until yesterday (when the HR sensor issue start)
thinking about do one more factory reset... :fingers-crossed:
just to illustrate: HR (red) x Cadence (blue)
alexhan said:
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
Someone know how to fix it?
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Same issue here, with every Rom update HR accuracy gets worse in Sports activities. Continuous HR monitor seems accurate when compared to my chest strap, but goes haywire and at least 50% off true when in Run Indoor and Cycle indoor. Elliptical seems to be accurate at least some of the time. Have factory reset many times but nothing seems to help.
Yesterday I realized that with new ROM update, Peace have option to connect to other Bluetooth sensor(s).
I tested it and it with cheap 20$ Bluetooth sensor and works nice.
My Bip’s heart rate monitor seems to be working fine when I am resting. I have detection frequency set for every 5 minutes. However, when I am working out, I am not getting anywhere close to an actual reading. The detection is updating frequently, which it is supposed to do when you’re increasing your intensity. However, the reading stays low even when it’s clear my heartbeat is well over 100. When I say low, I’m not exaggerating. Last night, the reading dipped into the 40s while I was working out. I couldn’t even come close to that while resting.
Additionally, once my workout was done, it actually gave me an accurate reading of a heart rate over 100. Just not during the workout. The app is also not showing that I was in an intensive state. Its very confusing.
Does anyone know how to troubleshoot the Bip to get an accurate HR reading while working out? This is one of the main reasons I bought the watch in the first place.
Thank you.
Same issue here..
To me It seems like the watch only gives more accurate values when my actual heartbeat is under 90-100..
Hi guys,
I just got my new Amazfit GTR and noticed strange behavior of heart rate monitor. It shows values even if the device is not on my wrist. I left the device on the table for more than hour and any time I looked on main screen there was heart rate value and it was also changing the values. So it wasn't just last value stuck. I tried to run exercise activity while leaving device on the table and it was showing heart rate as well. Not all the time but sometimes there was value and sometimes not. So is the device faking heart rate values? Is it normal behavior?
It is how PPG sensors work, they use the reflected light to estimate the number of beats. Search the internet for more info.
Well, I have another watch with PPG sensor but they don't show nothing when they are not on wrist.
So it will probably not be about sensor type. In this case they for example report my rest heart rate during the night even if they lay next to me on the table so the values will be completely faked.
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
HR
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The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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HEyy,
- Also got 2 other product with the same comportment `` Fitbit Charge Hr ´´ and `` Fitbit Blaze ´´ , both detect when they are not in the wrist. Why doen's GTR do the same?
- Also both got more accuracy in Heart rate measurments...Because they are doing it consistently. With Amazfit GTR i only can program it to do it 1min in 1min. Already change it with Notify & Fitness. nothing seems to change....
- Another outburst from my side : heart rate scale doen't save scores higher than 180 BTM !
Are some of them just software issues ?
Regards to all
The heart beat sensor on the GTR is utter garbage. It does indeed fake heart beat results. Also the sleep analysis functionality is totally broken.
Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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I returned the GTR and got another one from another vendor and it has the same problem. I can now say that the heart rate monitoring in the GTR is useless, just a boring toy.
Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
As the heart rate sensor is basically a pulse oximeter which monitors the perfusion of blood to the dermis, it’s prone to inaccuracies.That’s because skin perfusion — a measure of how much blood flows through your skin-varies significantly from person to another. Especially the ones who have dark skin, hairy wrists, tattoo, and scar.
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Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
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Oddly enough I have found the heart rate monitor to be remakably accurate if worn correctly and over the range 60-110. A few moments ago I confirmed previous results and while the watch showed 91 bpm a simultaneous ECG showed 90 bpm. The problem I have with the HR monitor is that it seems, when the cpu is stressed, to produce crazy results. To get around this I run exercise from the phone and get sensible results from the HR monitor. I might add that I was cooling down after exercise!
Well seems I am testing today. Had the watch about 2 days. I am guessing the watch does NOT show the current temperature? Like that matters. The GPS took about 45-60 seconds to connect, as others had. Seem to do faster NOT on wrist. Now my heart-rate monitor works really good. Tested it and I when I got 86 the watch got 85. did it again I got 84 thee watch got 85. Now I did take it off put it on the rubber mat and it kept going up to about 96 lol Put on my keyboard( light on top of keys) it went down to 40. Yet on my wrist works really good.