From my experience with Sony's charging dock on the Tablet Z, I found that it charged quite slowly as compared to a usb connected charge. I would see an overnight charge which is roughly 8 hours to only charge 30% to 85% whereas a direct usb charge would give a full charge within an hour and a half. Just wondering cause I've ordered the Z2 and hoped that the dock wouldn't be such a bad experience cause I don't want to bother with the flaps unless I have to.
I picked up a generic dock from Amazon. Seems to be 'straight through' connections, so chargers as fast as the charger will allow...
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xAjCx said:
From my experience with Sony's charging dock on the Tablet Z, I found that it charged quite slowly as compared to a usb connected charge. I would see an overnight charge which is roughly 8 hours to only charge 30% to 85% whereas a direct usb charge would give a full charge within an hour and a half. Just wondering cause I've ordered the Z2 and hoped that the dock wouldn't be such a bad experience cause I don't want to bother with the flaps unless I have to.
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About 2 hours or so from 20% to full. Full speed.
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About 2 hours or so from 20% to full. Full speed.
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The magnetic charging port is definitely slower but mine still charges in a few hours on the dock next to my bed(not sure how many amps the wall adapter is). In my car it seems about the same off the 2 amp charger(so I assume the other is only 1-1.5 amp) with much heavier drain(bright screen, BT streaming, navigation, etc.).
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A lot will depend on the quality of the cable as well. I have the no name dock from amazon and it is slow to charge with the supplied short cable but very quick with the Sony one
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It depends on the charger and the cable, to charge a 3200 MAH battery for the z2
a minimum 2 amp charger and 38 pin cable is definitely a must !
My magnetic charging port charges at a rate of 1% every 1 1/2 mins, 2 1/2 hours for full charge according to my battery stats which seem about right.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I just can't wait to get the phone. I've been on the fence with it for some time now between the Z2 and the S5 (now the S5 Active that just came out). I just wanted a change and the two devices kinda broke even with specs and reviews for me. :highfive:
anyone yet been that crazy to use a 3A charger? Snapdragon S801 should be capable of that.
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I picked up a generic dock from Amazon. Seems to be 'straight through' connections, so chargers as fast as the charger will allow...
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I did the same, but it takes all night to get 80% whereas the direct USB takes a couple of hours to 100%
Now after i got the dock (cheap one from Ebay) i do have the same Problem!
Takes 7hours to charge from 0% to 75%
using Stock rom + Doomkernel v9
Ookay... I just connected the Mulitmeter between smartphone and dock (it's a hassle.... Hacked USB cable would be nice....)
The official Sony wallcharger (1.5A) is charging the dock and Smartphone with 800-850mA.
I tried Doomkernels Fastcharge and forced constant AC =roughly 1300mA.
Strangly when I set it to 1500 or 2000 in Faux app it falls back to 800mA.
The battery was 85% charged when I made those tests.
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Ookay... I just connected the Mulitmeter between smartphone and dock (it's a hassle.... Hacked USB cable would be nice....)
The official Sony wallcharger (1.5A) is charging the dock and Smartphone with 800-850mA.
I tried Doomkernels Fastcharge and forced constant AC =roughly 1300mA.
Strangly when I set it to 1500 or 2000 in Faux app it falls back to 800mA.
The battery was 85% charged when I made those tests.
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I thought fastcharge applied only to micro usb port
Yesterday I got a non original docking station from Amazon.de (€9,40 + delivery costs) - from 42% to 95% chargin time was 1h55min.
please visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789564
Yeah,,,, so.... i made a reallife test!
Set FauxApp to "Constant AC" in FastCharge options.
in 5 hours it charged 16% xD 3.2% Per hour.
Then after that i set to "Custom" 1200mA
Charged from 76% to 100% in 3.5hours
tonight i'm trying to empty the phone (Unreal Epic Citadel might be a good idea, or maybe GFXbenchmark Battery Test....) and set to Custom 1500mAh and see what happens.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
it supports quick charge 2.0 and Sony should enable it
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https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
it supports quick charge 2.0 and Sony should enable it
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So.... anyone has one of those QuickCharge 2.0 Adapters Mentioned here ?
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
i wonder if it would charge faster than the Sony 1.5A charger.
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Phew... dem chargers! 18W and 30W editions!
5V 4A
9V 2.2A
12V 2.5A
20V 1A
Quick charge 2.0 does only use 9V sporadically doesn't it ?
Edit2: and 9V 4A .... wow
I wish. I could do charging in 90 minutes. It takes twice as that now.
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Hey guys wanted to know where I can find a rapid battery charger. I'm currently using Anker Battery Expert but it takes around 5 or more hours to fully charge a battery. Would love to find a charger that could charge my battery within an hour!!!
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Hey guys wanted to know where I can find a rapid battery charger. I'm currently using Anker Battery Expert but it takes around 5 or more hours to fully charge a battery. Would love to find a charger that could charge my battery within an hour!!!
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You can get a 2amp charger but the kernel must support fast charging.
Even then i dont think full charge within an hour is possible.
Thanks for the respond.... But not to use with the phone only for the battery. I have a seperate charger for the extra battery but it feels like it takes forever. I do rate it over the phone charger though because if I fully charge the battery with my phone and I take it out and place it on the external charger it shows that It still have around 10 to 15min left to complete charging... I beleive it's correct because it seems to last longet than charging with the phone!!!!
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Thanks for the respond.... But not to use with the phone only for the battery. I have a seperate charger for the extra battery but it feels like it takes forever. I do rate it over the phone charger though because if I fully charge the battery with my phone and I take it out and place it on the external charger it shows that It still have around 10 to 15min left to complete charging... I beleive it's correct because it seems to last longet than charging with the phone!!!!
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Not trying to revive this post, but noticed people are looking for a fast charger. I have a Touchpad and use the charger to charge my Note. It charges much faster than the OEM.
It is a 2+amp charger. It says 2amp on the label. I tried to charge my Touchpad on a Ipad charger (also 2amps) and the Touchpad said gave a warning saying it will take longer to charge. So I assume the Touchpad charger is 2.5amp. (max allowed for FCC)
Long story short, its on sale for only $4.99. Go get it!
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho.../FB341AA?HP-TouchPad-Power-Charger&aoid=35252
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I have a Touchpad and use the charger to charge my Note. It charges much faster than the OEM.
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Both the AC wall wart that comes with the Note (I assume that's what you mean by "the OEM") and the HP TouchPad AC charger will charge the Note at 1 A. One is not faster than the other.
It is a 2+amp charger. It says 2amp on the label. I tried to charge my Touchpad on a Ipad charger (also 2amps) and the Touchpad said gave a warning saying it will take longer to charge. So I assume the Touchpad charger is 2.5amp. (max allowed for FCC)
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No, this is because the iPad charger is wired up to supply 2 A only via the proprietary iPad connector. If you connect it to a micro USB device (like the Touchpad or the Note), you will not get 2 A. You will probably only get 0.5 A, which is the USB standard. That causes the TP to display the warning you saw.
Thanks guys but I still didn't get the answer I was looking for. I'm looking for a universal wall charger that could charge batteries by itself but at a faster pace!!
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You can get a 2amp charger but the kernel must support fast charging.
Even then i dont think full charge within an hour is possible.
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Will it pullover one amp with a fast charging kernel?
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Will it pullover one amp with a fast charging kernel?
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No. The Note (and most current Samsung hardware) is limited at just over 1A. I'm using a 3A charger with a change-only cable and my Note can only charge at ~1.1A according to CurrentWidget. Without charge-only cable it's half an amp at best.
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No. The Note (and most current Samsung hardware) is limited at just over 1A. I'm using a 3A charger with a change-only cable and my Note can only charge at ~1.1A according to CurrentWidget. Without charge-only cable it's half an amp at best.
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Hrm I'll have to test this. I have a prime and it's wall charger is rated at 2A,might charge the phone faster.
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Well Charging seemed very quick but the CurrentWidget showed charging from 1A to 8A. Listed on their Google play page they say that Samsung probably isn't supported.
The electric current reading doesn't work on all devices. The reason is that the manufactures (mostly Motorola and Samsung) don't support this in the battery driver or in the hardware.
here's a couple screenshots
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OP, I did some amazoning (new phrase, you like?) and here are a couple options I've found:
OEM Sammy charger: Dunno the charging speeds, but probably 1.1A like the chargers that come with our phones.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Battery-Charger-2500mAh-Included/dp/B0076Z3FSQ/
Also there's this charger/dock:
It uses a 1A wall wart and here's the catch it's mentioned it charges both the phone and battery at the same time so it would split the power, I don't know if it'll shuffle the power around when only one battery needs a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Samsung-Compatible-international-Packaging/dp/B006QBKTCG/
Long story short, the best you're probably going to get is a 1A charger, most aftermarket units I've seen are charging between 300mha to 400mha.
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Hrm I'll have to test this. I have a prime and it's wall charger is rated at 2A,might charge the phone faster.
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Well Charging seemed very quick but the CurrentWidget showed charging from 1A to 8A. Listed on their Google play page they say that Samsung probably isn't supported.
The electric current reading doesn't work on all devices. The reason is that the manufactures (mostly Motorola and Samsung) don't support this in the battery driver or in the hardware.
here's a couple screenshots
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OP, I did some amazoning (new phrase, you like?) and here are a couple options I've found:
OEM Sammy charger: Dunno the charging speeds, but probably 1.1A like the chargers that come with our phones.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Battery-Charger-2500mAh-Included/dp/B0076Z3FSQ/
Also there's this charger/dock:
It uses a 1A wall wart and here's the catch it's mentioned it charges both the phone and battery at the same time so it would split the power, I don't know if it'll shuffle the power around when only one battery needs a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Samsung-Compatible-international-Packaging/dp/B006QBKTCG/
Long story short, the best you're probably going to get is a 1A charger, most aftermarket units I've seen are charging between 300mha to 400mha.
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I've never got off-the-wall amperage #'s like that on my OG Note. I know it's accurate because the Samsung OEM wall charger is 1amp and my phone shows 1100~mA when plugged in. It shows the same #'s when plugged in to my 3amp car charger with charge-only cable.
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Hey guys wanted to know where I can find a rapid battery charger. I'm currently using Anker Battery Expert but it takes around 5 or more hours to fully charge a battery. Would love to find a charger that could charge my battery within an hour!!!
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I have the eBay wall chargers for my extra battery's.. I wish there was something faster but unfortunately I haven't come across it.
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My OEM battery charges in about 1 hr .....
RooT -[]D[][]V[][]D- BeeR
The OEM charger cannot charge in an hour... the battery is 2.5AH and the charger gives out 1amp
Ideally if the phone was off it would take 2.5 hours. (without calculating inefficiencies etc)
Amazon has a great deal...battery charger with (2) 2750 mah batteries for 18.00...ive been using this for a couple weeks and it works GREAT
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The OEM charger cannot charge in an hour... the battery is 2.5AH and the charger gives out 1amp
Ideally if the phone was off it would take 2.5 hours. (without calculating inefficiencies etc)
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With fast charge enabled with kernel I use I charge in about a hr to hr and a half from about 10 to 15 percent ....yes its possible.
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Thinking on getting one of these...
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-QI-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-for-micro-USB-for-Samsung-Nokia-LG-HTC-/251937842667?var=&hash=item3aa8aa65eb
I got one for my Idol 3. It works just fine...HOWEVER:
1) It is a slow charge vs. the USB cable (2-3 times slower).
2) Heats up the battery pretty quickly and gets pretty hot
3) Really inconvenient if you only have one wireless charging station and have to charge in the car or something
4) Tore mine because it was flimsy and I needed to charge using a cable (see #3).
Over all recommendation, yes, get it, it's fun to have wireless charging. BUT if you're going to be removing the plug everyday and switch between wireless charging and USB cable, be forewarned of what could happen.
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I got one for my Idol 3. It works just fine...HOWEVER:
1) It is a slow charge vs. the USB cable (2-3 times slower).
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Personally I feel the USB cable, with the included wall adapter, is STILL an extremely slow charge. That's one thing I dislike about this phone. The battery seems to take forever to charge just 5%. My phone was at about 60% one day and I decided to plug it in and went under battery and it said 4 more hours until full charge. 4 hours to charge just 40%? I wish Alcatel added the Quick Charge feature since the Snapdragon 615 it uses is capable of doing so.
Mine charges from about 25% to 100% in about 2 hours using included wall adapter with Dollar Tree USB cable (longer).
4 hours? That's a really long time. I charge mine using a sorts of chargers laying around and from nearly depleted to full, maybe 2.5hours max. :-/
The quality of your USB cable will affect the charge time. Cheaper cables contain less copper. I just replaced my ebay cables with branded, and the charge time for all my devices is much improved. The new cables were still under 2 GBP.
Thanks for the replies. I'm using a 6' charging cable from a brand called Xtreme bought at FiveBelow. Guess I'll start searching for a Samsung one or something.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I am using a USB cable from Dollar Tree. Can't get much cheaper than that. It charges just fine, from 25% to 100% is about 2 hours. The original cable that came with the Idol was not faster and it was too short for my use.
Charging cable deal five for $5.49
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The quality of your USB cable will affect the charge time. Cheaper cables contain less copper. I just replaced my ebay cables with branded, and the charge time for all my devices is much improved. The new cables were still under 2 GBP.
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These just arrived:
Aukey [5-Pack] Premium Micro USB Cable in Assorted Lengths (3.3ft x 3, 1 ft x 2)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UWRHNVA
On sale:
"Save $4.50 when you purchase 1 or more Aukey [5-Pack] Premium Micro USB Cable (Black, White) offered by Aukey Direct. Enter code W97Q49D6 at checkout. Here's how (restrictions apply)"
Micro USB makes a firm connection with the Idol 3.
They show 1.0 to 1.2 amp charging current using a Photive 5 port charger:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JJ2C0S0/
measured with:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271676469558
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Personally I feel the USB cable, with the included wall adapter, is STILL an extremely slow charge. That's one thing I dislike about this phone. The battery seems to take forever to charge just 5%. My phone was at about 60% one day and I decided to plug it in and went under battery and it said 4 more hours until full charge. 4 hours to charge just 40%? I wish Alcatel added the Quick Charge feature since the Snapdragon 615 it uses is capable of doing so.
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Your connector must be damaged, mine charges 1% per minute until it starts it's trickle charge cycle around 80%.
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Your connector must be damaged, mine charges 1% per minute until it starts it's trickle charge cycle around 80%.
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Actually it was just my charging cable that was the problem. I bought a new Anker charger and it charges the phone 10 times faster now. Really relieved that it wasn't something with the phone itself.
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daft question maybe - will it still fit in a case?
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daft question maybe - will it still fit in a case?
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Fairly certain you'll need a case to be able to use it since there's no removable back on the Idol 3 so you'll need a case to hold it in place between the phone.
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I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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I spend a lot of time making short trips in my car, jumping in and out for meetings, and it would be nice to have this feature to get my phone charged back up in the 10 or 15 minutes I might have. I am not so much worried about whether or not the charger can charge the phone over long periods as I am typically just navigating or streaming Bluetooth. If I was using the 500ma ports built into the car then that would be another story.
Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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. . . Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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Sorry but I did not mean the 12 volt outlet, but a USB outlet. Many people here in NL are using usb-adapters in the sigaret lighter outlet. Many USB adapter are max 250mA at 5 volt
As far as I can see every charger will be good as long as the capacity is at least 1A at 5 volt.
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
I have the quick charger from vzw and have had no issues with it. Ya the phone gets warm, and it lives in a case. Still no issues.
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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This is the one I have. I have only used it a few times but I have had zero issues with it. It seems to charge just as fast as the stock house charger in my opinion. It also has a notification light that lights up blue when it is plugged in / has power and green when it is actually charging your device. Kind of handy imo. I mainly went with this one because of it actually being "Qualcomm Certified" or whatever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VH...ar+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=415UvP5jebL&ref=plSrch
This is the cable I got to go with it. It appears to be very nice and of high quality. I don't like being on a short leash.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SU...+usb+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=31ynDmfEZZL&ref=plSrch
I was looking for a quick charge 2.0 car charger on amazon, and ran into a little Bluetooth fm transmitter that you plug into the cigarette lighter. It has 2 usb ports both 2.1a (21W, 4.2A)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010ZOK1Q8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The reviews on it seem outstanding
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This is the one i'm rocking and love it
I also got a couple of blitzwolf chargers and they work great as well.
I use this and it works great....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3XIKXQ
As for the heat issue, I don't think the the phone will get THAT much hotter using this than it would with a standard charger. I think the majority of heat issues in a car scenario are a result of a combination of (A) having the phone mounted where the sun is shining on it and (B) having the screen on continuously (if navigating). The best way to combat this, in my opinion, is to find a phone holder that attaches to (or around) your car's vent. That way when you have your A/C on on hot days, it will keep the phone cool. It sounds silly but it works surprisingly well (Note: I've never had much issue with any of my phones getting too hot in the winter when this A/C method wouldn't really work).
I'd suggest looking into ProClip mounts... at least for my car and my previous car, they had an option that positioned the mount directly over a vent...
Note: If you are curious about the foam/tape, it's because I have a universal holder and not a Nexus 6 specific holder. The universal is not a great fit for the odd contours of the Nexus 6 so I added some foam.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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Definitely an awesome charger! I grabbed it on a similar deal!
Charger that comes with this phone is just labeled fast charge... Phone seems to charge pretty slow also from what I see.
i just installed some dual 2.4A usb outlets in my house they charge very fast from 8% to 100% in about an hour, considering the Amperage on the stock charger is 1.8A it doesn't seem like it would be enough to use the phone while charging.
I havent used the stock charger yet but mine reads it puts out [email protected] 1.8amps or [email protected] 1.8amps. I am waiting for my battery to get really low so i can see how fast it will charge.
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When the OEM charger is plugged in, swipe down and you can see it says it's being fast charged.
When plugged in, my screen does say Quick Charge, and my phone charged rather fast, but still getting used to it. Even when I had my phone plugged into a normal new USB C plugged directly into my usb outlet, it seemed to charge much faster than I was expecting.
Yes I understand it says fast charging, so does the quick charge 2.0 with this phone, but is it actually charging at QC 3.0 speeds??
It seems silly they would make a Quick Charge 3.0 phone and not supply the relevant charger.
I ordered an aftermarket QC 3.0 charger, I guess I can do some comparisons when it shows up.
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
jrwingate6 said:
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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They didn't give a qc2.0 charger with g4
turbodroid said:
I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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I performed a test with the aftermarket QC 3.0 charger linked above and the one supplied with the phone. I drained to 90% and as soon as it hit 90 I plugged it in and started the timer. The results are nearly identical in how fast 100% charge was achieved.
The first screenshot of total time was the aftermarket charger and the 2nd is the factory charger. I would venture to guess based on these results, the factory charger is QC 3.0, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well if the stock charger says 9V @ 1.8A and 5V @ 1.8A, then it's not true QC 3.0 as that uses voltages from 5V - 20V.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
Before any of you rush out and buy a cheap charger to save a few bucks I'd think twice about it. I have been screwed by cheap chargers on more than one occasion which is why I refuse to buy them anymore.
I've had them stop working after a couple weeks and many of them made a very annoying noise. Some made a high pitch squealing noise while just sitting there doing nothing and others made the noise while charging.
Slow and Fast
I noticed it charged VERY slow at first while i was using the phone at the same time. I notoced the charger wasnt even slighty warm to the touch after 30+ minutes. That made me think and noticed if I left the phone at rest without turning it on it charges much quicker and the charger got warm quick. And the charger actually cools down if you start using it half way through a charge.
*I took a screen shot of the battery usage graph, but I'm new so I can't post photos yet so you'll have to trust me lol
My rough estimates are that if you are using the phone while charging it will take just over 2 hours, but if you don't touch it then it charges in under 50 minutes.
Mind you phones battery temperature also effects the charge rate, is if you have it on top of a pillow it might not charge as quick.
You don't wanna use the phone while it quick charges. Turn screen off for an hour and it will be done
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
The charger that came with the G5 is the same charger that came with my v10, it is only Quick Charge 2.0, I have compared the model #'s and they are exactly the same. I have gone on amazon and ordered a Anker Quick Charge 3.0 plug and a couple of their USB-C cables.
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I just contacted LG through their website via E-Mail regarding the Quick Charge 3.0 charger, I will follow-up once I receive an email back from them. The website advised that I should receive an email within 24 hours.
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
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I have drained to 50% and am performing the same test with the factory charger now. Will update results later this evening so I can repeat with the aftermarket charger.
evobyte said:
Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
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It's a wonder why anyone tries to share information on this site with comments like this. Since you probably only skimmed over what I posted, I said feel free to draw your own conclusions and that it was a 'quick test'.
When the phone gets to 80 % the other 20% go pretty slow, might even be similar to the QC 2.0... But 50% to 100% would be a good test, and we can see if there's a difference
The day 1 when I charged my google pixel 6, I had my heart stopped because while going to sleep I connected the charger and when I woke up the battery went down from 44% to 33% showing "connected, not charging" I thought this is it.
But then through out the whole day I was going through tonnes of videos and posts which confirmed one thing for sure that Google Pixel 6 doesn't go more than 22W on PPS charger. Finally fingers crossed I was going to spend on Anker 65W but then came across Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger with PPS. My goodness the charger does what it does, charges 50% in 30 minutes and remaining reaching slowly in another 45 minutes which is enough and sounds safe to me.
I am posting this because many look around the internet for solutions like me, if I can contribute a little.
Amazon.com
It's very ironic. I was initially going to buy the official Google charger for the 30W despite already having a 20W one. I just bought another 20W charger in the Anker Nano one which also serves me perfectly fine as 20W is good enough; don't need the extra 2-3W ^^
Ayyyy! Snagged one too! It was half off bringing it down to $10!
For those in the UK the Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger is currently reduced to £12.99 on Amazon.
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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This is what I have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vSk1m8
33w pps and small it should be dropping againnfor black Friday.
Dropped to 4 quid in the 11.11 sale bf drops to 6
That belkin one decent tho
I bought the original Google charger 30w.Peek is 22 too.
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
utnick said:
Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
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It did. 2900+ ma constant.
It's a power supply for a xfinity box. They are not even expensive, like 15 bucks.
I was reading about chargers and power supply which the power supply is always the same but chargers have temperature sensors? Maybe was about something else....
I may be mistaken
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
With a Baseus gan 2 65w charger I constantly see more than 20w charging except the percentage is high. I think this one has pd3 which supports PPS.
Do not trust Franco readings. Get an inline meter if you need absolute certainty.
You could very well be hitting those speeds since the charger looks to be compatible.
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
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Understood.
Still, it got from 0 to 65% in like 40 minutes then I disconnected because I had to leave.. As soon as I receive mine, I'll do some stats and post them here.
I thought PPS chargers have a 3a max and is not constant, it goes up and down, depending on the battery itself.
The more amps that pulls, the faster it charges... Or am I wrong?
It's not correct. Power is current multiplied by voltage.
3A at 1V is only 3W. PD is usually 5V or 9V.
Google's can do 1.5A at 20V to reach 30W for supported devices.
For me, the more amps that pull the faster it charges... Voltage don't mean anything.
Voltage have great effect. Power is electrical current (amperes) multiplied by voltage (volts). For example 1 ampere at 5 volts is just 5 watts but same 1 ampere at 20 volts is 20 watts which is much higher. Different charging technologies have different approaches to send maximum power from charger to the phone but generally most use higher voltage to transfer power above 10 W because most usb cables do not support more than 2 to 3 A of current. Before charging the battery itself phone converts back the high voltage to low voltage suitable for the battery (usually between 3.5 and 4 volts). If you are looking at software programs like aida 64 or ampere - they read the current at this stage so this is why more current at that level means faster charging because the voltage is already reduced to what is needed by the battery. Generally you have something like this:
1. Phone and charger negotiate needed power and they way it will be achieved based on the capabilities of the charger, phone and cable connecting them. Let's say that they agree for 20W which is 10 V with 2 A current.
2. Charger transforms 220 V AC to 10 V DC and phone starts drawing 2A of power.
3. Internally in the phone voltage is transformed from 10 V to 4 V which causes current to rise to 5 A which are fed to the battery.
Here is a great analogy showing the relation between voltage, current, power and resistance using something as simple as water hose.
https://www.freeingenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Electricity-101-v2.png
utnick said:
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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It shouldn't damage it as charging is controlled by the SoC.
Kramer679 said:
My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
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Ahhhh. Yeah, it's type A to type C.