Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
eRajesh said:
Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
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My bootloader is unlocked and x-reality works fine.
.402 fw
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eRajesh said:
Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
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There is a patch to re-enable X-Reality with bootloader unlocked.
Presently, there is no way to backup TA partition.
Where is this patch.
nintendolinky said:
Where is this patch.
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Here
EDIT: no longer here, ask for it at @auras76
EDIT2: rom RomAur v3.1 and rom monxDIFIED v02-01 are two custom roms based on .402 with X-Reality enabled.
Have you got a link mate, I can't find it in that thread, or is it built in to the ROM.
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nintendolinky said:
Have you got a link mate, I can't find it in that thread, or is it built in to the ROM.
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The patch is no longer here, ask for it at @auras76 or use rom RomAur v3.1 or rom monxDIFIED v02-01 that are two custom roms based on .402 with X-Reality enabled.
So what happens to the camera functionality? isn't it affected?
X Reality isn't working for everyone on those ROMs, myself included, so be wary!
Regards
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Thanks for your reply guys.
Does anyone know about the Bionic image processor being disabled as well? I will then compile everything to the OP and request a mod to make it a sticky
nreuge said:
There is a patch to re-enable X-Reality with bootloader unlocked.
Presently, there is no way to backup TA partition.
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so practically that means rooting now will void the warranty forever?
vsagonas said:
so practically that means rooting now will void the warranty forever?
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Yes, but will they verify if the DRM keys are still present?
nreuge said:
Yes, but will they verify if the DRM keys are still present?
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This depends on where you got the phone from
If its directly from sony then they will check
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Hi people. This is my 3rd android device. Two samsung products, and now the Z ultra.
So I have no idea what people are talking about... I'm used to ODIN... so is flashtool a similar piece of software?
My xperia Z hasn't arrived yet, Im just trying to get my head around sony and the way their devices are run..
So.. questions...
1. Backup your TA partition (I read that this has important info that I don't want to loose... Do i do this with flashtool? Do i also reflash this partition at a later date?)
2. Unlock your bootloader (Why are some people not unlocking bootloader... Do I understand correctly that some features will stop working... like x-reality?? If so, can't they just be reactivated with a custom ROM?)
3. I see there is a recovery for locked bootloaders... (can you still flash kernel's custom ROM's zips using CWM with a locked bootloader?)
Ive spent 3 days looking on the threads here, but I think because of my previous devices I have a preconceived idea of what i should be doing.. I'm confused.
hamdogg said:
Hi people. This is my 3rd android device. Two samsung products, and now the Z ultra.
So I have no idea what people are talking about... I'm used to ODIN... so is flashtool a similar piece of software???
My xperia Z hasn't arrived yet, Im just trying to get my head around sony and the way their devices are run..
So.. questions...
1. Backup your TA partition (I read that this has important info that I don't want to loose... Do i do this with flashtool?? Do i also reflash this partition at a later date?)
2. Unlock your bootloader (Why are some people not unlocking bootloader... Do I understand correctly that some features will stop working... like x-reality?? If so, can't they just be reactivated with a custom ROM?)
3. I see there is a recovery for locked bootloaders... (can you still flash kernel's custom ROM's zips using CWM with a locked bootloader?)
Ive spent 3 days looking on the threads here, but I think because of my previous devices I have a preconceived idea of what i should be doing.. I'm confused.
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Oh thanks god!! I have been waiting for someone to ask... I didn't want to get labeled as a noob! :b
greggCc said:
Oh thanks god!! I have been waiting for someone to ask... I didn't want to get labeled as a noob! :b
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Now everyone knows you're a n00b!
First of all, the minus of unlocking bootloader is losing your DRM keys. To do this, sony has provided us an official way through their website (just google it). Or you can do this via flashtool too. After unlocking, you will lose xreality engine and won't get FW update from sony anymore through official means (pcc or ota, but you can always flash). Some says trackID will be lost, too, but hey, who use it anyway?
The plus is, you entered godmode for flashing anything into your phone.
Unlocked bootloader can be relocked through flashtool, but relocked is not the same as locked, because xreality is still lost, cmiiw. To restore to original locked state, use backupTA (search thread in xda) BEFORE unlocking bootloader. And backupTA needs root, so we need root w/o unlock bootloader first (already plenty in other threads).
And yeah, what a maze this is.
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unk_damnation said:
Now everyone knows you're a n00b!
First of all, the minus of unlocking bootloader is losing your DRM keys. To do this, sony has provided us an official way through their website (just google it). Or you can do this via flashtool too. After unlocking, you will lose xreality engine and won't get FW update from sony anymore through official means (pcc or ota, but you can always flash). Some says trackID will be lost, too, but hey, who use it anyway?
The plus is, you entered godmode for flashing anything into your phone.
Unlocked bootloader can be relocked through flashtool, but relocked is not the same as locked, because xreality is still lost, cmiiw. To restore to original locked state, use backupTA (search thread in xda) BEFORE unlocking bootloader. And backupTA needs root, so we need root w/o unlock bootloader first (already plenty in other threads).
And yeah, what a maze this is.
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Ok thanks, that confirmed what i thought about bootloader..
Can you still flash VIA CWM with a locked bootloader?
otherwise as i understand it...
1) root device
2) backup TA parition
3) unlock bootloader
4) flash ROM/kernel/etc
5) reflash TA partition.
done... custom ROM with x-reality support?
hamdogg said:
Ok thanks, that confirmed what i thought about bootloader..
Can you still flash VIA CWM with a locked bootloader?
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Limited options. Most ROMs required unlocked bootloader.
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unk_damnation said:
Limited options. Most ROMs required unlocked bootloader.
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so there will be some ROM's that don't require an unlocked bootloader??
Why are not all ROM's like this, then x-reality / track ID's would not be a problem...
hamdogg said:
so there will be some ROM's that don't require an unlocked bootloader??
Why are not all ROM's like this, then x-reality / track ID's would not be a problem...
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Well it's harder to make, apparently. Currently even custom recovery for locked bootloader is not finished yet. Check the development section. And flashing things that normally isn't allowed on locked does have limitations, check in other xperia devices threads.
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unk_damnation said:
Well it's harder to make, apparently. Currently even custom recovery for locked bootloader is not finished yet. Check the development section. And flashing things that normally isn't allowed on locked does have limitations, check in other xperia devices threads.
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ok... say I have flashed a ROM... i can then flash the TA partition and then I have that ROM with x-reality working?
hamdogg said:
ok... say I have flashed a ROM... i can then flash the TA partition and then I have that ROM with x-reality working?
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Actually on firmware .510 with unlocked bootloader and I still have Xreality. Making your Ta backup is mainly to be able to restore your device in case of softbrick or restore your phone to stock.
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bASKOU said:
Actually on firmware .510 with unlocked bootloader and I still have Xreality. Making your Ta backup is mainly to be able to restore your device in case of softbrick or restore your phone to stock.
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I read that members running 510 have the reality box to check, but most say it doesn't make a difference, and that its not working in the album
hamdogg said:
I read that members running 510 have the reality box to check, but most say it doesn't make a difference, and that its not working in the album
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Right i don't see difference on album. But I see it on videos.
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I am looking at getting the phone too. From what I understand is when your bootloader is locked, it will only load signed boot partitions. So any modification to the boot partition outside of the official stock kernel will not boot when locked. So installing any custom kernel (OC/UV/etc) with stock rom needs unlocked bootloader, or installing CM (which has it's own kernel anyway). So best is getting custom roms (only modified system) with stock kernel.
Also like already said, unlocked bootloader means no updates from Sony. I would backup TA at all costs anyway.
I doubt stock kernel supports kexec, but I guess you can hack the system init process to load different ramdisks. Which is why I guess they are having trouble with locked bootloaders with recovery ramdisks in the dev forum.
I am waiting for the C6806. Here are my plans:
1. Root using vroot (hope it doesn't infect TA with something ;o)
2. Backup TA Partition
3. Unlock
4. Deal with loss of DRM
5. Install whatever ROM/kernel for daily usage
6. (maybe make official TWRP)
7. Get official updates by restoring TA partition, stock kernel if necessary
or...
1. Root using vroot
2. Backup TA Paritition
3. Stick with stock kernel
4. Help with getting locked 2nd ramdisk working with stock init
5. Is the stock ROM awesome enough? (Not sure since we don't have 4.3 )
Also hoping info comes out about ATT bootloader soon on Note 3.
LTE phone is out by 9/25 I am thinking with US warranty support. (C6806)
bigbiff said:
I am looking at getting the phone too. From what I understand is when your bootloader is locked, it will only load signed boot partitions. So any modification to the boot partition outside of the official stock kernel will not boot when locked. So installing any custom kernel (OC/UV/etc) with stock rom needs unlocked bootloader, or installing CM (which has it's own kernel anyway). So best is getting custom roms (only modified system) with stock kernel.
Also like already said, unlocked bootloader means no updates from Sony. I would backup TA at all costs anyway.
I doubt stock kernel supports kexec, but I guess you can hack the system init process to load different ramdisks. Which is why I guess they are having trouble with locked bootloaders with recovery ramdisks in the dev forum.
I am waiting for the C6806. Here are my plans:
1. Root using vroot (hope it doesn't infect TA with something ;o)
2. Backup TA Partition
3. Unlock
4. Deal with loss of DRM
5. Install whatever ROM/kernel for daily usage
6. (maybe make official TWRP)
7. Get official updates by restoring TA partition, stock kernel if necessary
or...
1. Root using vroot
2. Backup TA Paritition
3. Stick with stock kernel
4. Help with getting locked 2nd ramdisk working with stock init
5. Is the stock ROM awesome enough? (Not sure since we don't have 4.3 )
Also hoping info comes out about ATT bootloader soon on Note 3.
LTE phone is out by 9/25 I am thinking with US warranty support. (C6806)
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Thanks for your thoughts biff...
I was also going to wait for the LTE version, however only two cities have it in my country, and I rarely travel to them, and the added price made be think again...
Thanks to all for their contributions on this thread especially op for having the balls to expose his new noob levels I'm coming from Samsung note and this has helped put things in perspective.
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SpyderTracks said:
Thanks to all for their contributions on this thread especially op for having the balls to expose his new noob levels I'm coming from Samsung note and this has helped put things in perspective.
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Lol nobody should be ashamed to be a noob. We are all noobs to some extend, we learn and improve. I am a big noob on Sony devices as well and a huge noob when it come to development hahahhaa
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I've just ordered mine, should be delivered day after tomorrow. Wait is almost over!
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SpyderTracks said:
I've just ordered mine, should be delivered day after tomorrow. Wait is almost over!
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haha.. no problem!
I know samsung devices very well, and am no noob there.. But sony... yes, I know basically nothing. We all have to start somewhere.. :silly:
hamdogg said:
haha.. no problem!
I know samsung devices very well, and am no noob there.. But sony... yes, I know basically nothing. We all have to start somewhere.. :silly:
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Jeez, this is a nice phone!
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SpyderTracks said:
Jeez, this is a nice phone!
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my wait is nearly over... customs called... gotta pay import duty (ARSE!!!)
but will have it Monday... Boom!!
Is it worth it to unlock your bootloader because you lose some things like apps and bravia engine....
Do you have any problems on your device with unlocked bootloader?
Is it possible to have bravia engine on CyanogenMod?
Is it possible to have sony's picture effect app on CyanogenMod?
kathallida said:
Is it worth it to unlock your bootloader because you lose some things like apps and bravia engine....
Do you have any problems on your device with unlocked bootloader?
Is it possible to have bravia engine on CyanogenMod?
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader is to run custom roms, we don't even need it unlocked for recovery now.
You can also restore the TA partition to regain xreality on stock roms.
blueether said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader is to run custom roms, we don't even need it unlocked for recovery now.
You can also restore the TA partition to regain xreality on stock roms.
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Oh ok.
Is it possible to restore the TA on custom roms?
kathallida said:
Oh ok.
Is it possible to restore the TA on custom roms?
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It is, but they won't boot
blueether said:
It is, but they won't boot
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lol is there any custom roms that can have bravia on it?
kathallida said:
lol is there any custom roms that can have bravia on it?
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I'm not sure, but I think someone has said that it may still work for some things
@LordManhattan?
kathallida said:
lol is there any custom roms that can have bravia on it?
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@monx® rom, released today has it.. Fantastic rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606414
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iBuzman said:
@monx® rom, released today has it.. Fantastic rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606414
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Only with a locked BL?
Since we're on the topic - I'm on stock 290 but using the custom kernel (for root). I also have custom recovery. Will restoring TA be safe?
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neverborn said:
Since we're on the topic - I'm on stock 290 but using the custom kernel (for root). I also have custom recovery. Will restoring TA be safe?
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You will soft brick the phone. ie it won't boot with the custom boot.I'm with a locked BL
Restoreing the TA will relock the bootloader.
Thought so, but I'm a new enough Sony user that u wasn't sure. Thanks!
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blueether said:
Only with a locked BL?
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Yep. Unlock BL no x-reality...lock it and it works again. No way around it...at least for now.
shaolin95 said:
Yep. Unlock BL no x-reality...lock and it works again. No way around it...at least for now.
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I have unlocked my BL and to be honest I can't tell any difference with X-reality deactivated. But I mostly use QuickPic to view photos and MX Player for videos. I do not regret unlocking.
There is a difference but sadly is not always for the best from my previous experience.
Some things look very nice, almost HD like but very bad video quality for example just seems to look even worst lol
shaolin95 said:
There is a difference but sadly is not always for the best from my previous experience.
Some things look very nice, almost HD like but very bad video quality for example just seems to look even worst lol
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Totally agree, on the whole I have it disabled because of this. The benefits aren't good enough to warrant it IMHO.
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Just making it clear, I unlocked my BL and rooted my XZU but I can still see X-Reality. Is it simply not working or it's supposed to be not there, even?
jnocomski said:
Just making it clear, I unlocked my BL and rooted my XZU but I can still see X-Reality. Is it simply not working or it's supposed to be not there, even?
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It'll still show the option - but it won't actually be in effect because of lost DRM keys.
hassanmahmood said:
It'll still show the option - but it won't actually be in effect because of lost DRM keys.
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Ah, i see! I couldn't tell the difference then, if it's in effect or not! Thanks.
Since large part of us might get their Z2s this week (hopefully including me :silly, I'd like to know what options we have to make our Xperias secure with soon-to-arrive custom ROMs.
From what I managed to find, the most convenient option (at least theoretically) would be to:
- unlock bootloader
- flash custom recovery
- flash custom ROM
- reflash stock recovery to prevent lockscreen bypass and adb access in general
- relock bootloader to prevent flashing custom recovery and regaining adb by potential attacker.
- then if needed, reflash recovery online if rooted, reflash new/updated ROM, reflash stock recovery back
Now, I've read that Xperia Z2 (other Zs probably as well) will softbrick with locked botloader and custom ROM/kernel, rendering this method useless. Am I right?
If yes, what other options do we have?
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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numskull said:
all i know for sure is its more complicated than samsung models n im gonna wait till there a way to root it without messing with the bootloader
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I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
waynekirby said:
-Unlock bootloader
-Flash kernel of the ROM you want (DooMKernel for stock based)
-Boot into the recovery that's baked into the kernel
-Flash the ROM you want
All AOSP ROM's require fastbooting the kernel from the zip (unless stated).
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So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
Garaddon said:
So there is no way to block access to recovery after flashing custom ROM?
Also sorry for probably dumb question (I'm new to Xperias): do you maybe know if current recoveries baked into CM support encryption? I know there is no CM for Z2 yet, I'm asking about current Z series phones.
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Well... On newer Xperia's (2012+) you can flash a recovery to the TArecovery partition, so you could remove it I suppose... But if the kernel you are using has a custom recovery baked in (they usually do on Xperia) then you could flash back the stock kernel, if you don't want recovery on stock based ROM. but as far as CM is concerned, you cannot remove recovery.
And yes all CM has recovery baked into Xperia kernels. We'll have official CM support from FXP team as soon as they receive their device too. Good times ahead
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shollywood said:
I cam from Samsung also, but really not difficult to unlock Bootloader at all actually.
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Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
numskull said:
Its not so much the unlocking of the bootloader that bothers me, i reckon i could do that. Its more the effects of it, what gets lost, stops working properly etc
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What gets lost or stops working properly?
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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Not sure, thats why i aint doing nothing to it, apparently theres a folder that contains licence keys, which you will lose when you unlock bootloader. until i know a bit more about it, i aint messing with it
shollywood said:
What gets lost or stops working properly?
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
Xernoxis said:
You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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What would I need the keys for? Sony sends the code to unlock the bootloader.
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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You lose the DRM keys. You can't keep the DRM keys if you root as of yet, because you have to unlock bootloader to root, and you can't do TA backup without root. Vicious circle.
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That was the one, i knew it was something important. thats why im waiting till there a root without unlocking, i could probably manage without most of it, but i want the bravia engine working and any other screen or audio stuff it affects, altho i was wondering, could you not just redownload the stuff you want and in doing so aquire new keys?? or is it not that simple?
waynekirby said:
Music info, X-Reality engine stops working and so on...
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Mine all seems to still work...odd
shollywood said:
Mine all seems to still work...odd
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This were from what happened on XT, XZ etc... I hope you're right buddy
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i predict that this time next week enough people will have z2's that we'll have all our answers
Hey,
What exactly do I loose when I unlock and root my device? Is is a train smash?
Regards,
I... Don't know what a train smash is, but on a typical phone, you lose nothing by rooting.
The Xperia Z2 is somewhat different in that, due to having no root exploits released so far, you must first unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernal in order to root. The process of unlocking wipes all data from the phone. Also, you'll lose your DRM keys, which are (arguably) not important, but will lose access to Sony Unlimited Video and Music, as well as void your warranty (but only if someone bothers to check it extensively, which likely they won't).
King Cole said:
I... Don't know what a train smash is, but on a typical phone, you lose nothing by rooting.
The Xperia Z2 is somewhat different in that, due to having no root exploits released so far, you must first unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernal in order to root. The process of unlocking wipes all data from the phone. Also, you'll lose your DRM keys, which are (arguably) not important, but will lose access to Sony Unlimited Video and Music, as well as void your warranty (but only if someone bothers to check it extensively, which likely they won't).
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Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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misiakr said:
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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No issues here.
Puffin617 said:
Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
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Correct.
misiakr said:
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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No issues here, and I'm on a rather dated firmware too (the .64 if I'm not mistaken).
Puffin617 said:
Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
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DRM keys are lost yes. But they don't affect anything like on previous Sony devices. Bootloader unlocked and everything will work just as before.
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Fidelio_o said:
DRM keys are lost yes. But they don't affect anything like on previous Sony devices. Bootloader unlocked and everything will work just as before.
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Yes correct to all xperias with 4.4 KK
Data is wiped with a couple and some not
Puffin617 said:
Hey,
What exactly do I loose when I unlock and root my device? Is is a train smash?
Regards,
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Nothing is lost besides DRM keys, your warrenty/garentee
(xreality and xperia services still work)
And the contents of you internal storage as your data is wiped when you unlock
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Thanks guys.
Personally I don't want to root the phone cause the stock ROM is just fine for me. I need some suggestions to get alternatives to root apps like Titanium Backup, etc.
Puffin617 said:
Thanks guys.
Personally I don't want to root the phone cause the stock ROM is just fine for me. I need some suggestions to get alternatives to root apps like Titanium Backup, etc.
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I would suggest not to root as u won't get allot but loose warranty etc.Some root apps now work with non root phones like greenify which is awesome.U can try that.
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Guys, do you have any idea when or if it will be possible to root Xperia without unlocking bootloader?
misiakr said:
Guys, do you have any idea when or if it will be possible to root Xperia without unlocking bootloader?
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This can happen any time. Just waiting for a Dev to find an exploit.
So tomorrow or maybe never. Who's to say?
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Doesnt look like n e time soon as less devs on Z2 for now
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If they get the TA Backup thing sorted for the Z2, will that mean that I can go ahead and root then restore to factory as if nothing happened?
Hi, I wanna question if I unlock my bootloader I will lose features like X Reality or BIONZ processor?
I saw some posts and it continues unclear for me.
Please explain me.
Duilio Patiño said:
Hi, I wanna question if I unlock my bootloader I will lose features like X Reality or BIONZ processor?
I saw some posts and it continues unclear for me.
Please explain me.
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X-Reality is only thing lost for me
Also my warrenty
X-Reality? De** but it only works with images and video right?
So... That is the only thing that l'll lose? BION Z, Software updates will be fine?
Thanks
Duilio Patiño said:
X-Reality? De** but it only works with images and video right?
So... That is the only thing that l'll lose? BION Z, Software updates will be fine?
Thanks
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Boinz you will not lose
Software updates i have no idea, with modded system yes, unlocked bootloader i dont know
Thanks man
Duilio Patiño said:
X-Reality? De** but it only works with images and video right?
So... That is the only thing that l'll lose? BION Z, Software updates will be fine?
Thanks
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For some reason there is a difference in the quality of the pictures taken with lb vs ub.. Be aware of that before unlocking
Edit: if you search on Google you can see that sony states that with unlocking you lose the drm keys and thereby the algorithms etc.. So no image processing
HellRoot said:
For some reason there is a difference in the quality of the pictures taken with lb vs ub.. Be aware of that before unlocking
Edit: if you search on Google you can see that sony states that with unlocking you lose the drm keys and thereby the algorithms etc.. So no image processing
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Actualy i did a test and camera quality was identical with UB abd LB across 3 different deviced
1. Locked and unlocked tested in 3 states
2, never unlocked
3. Unlocked
Ill post a link to my results when i find them again
Envious_Data said:
Actualy i did a test and camera quality was identical with UB abd LB across 3 different deviced
1. Locked and unlocked tested in 3 states
2, never unlocked
3. Unlocked
Ill post a link to my results when i find them again
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My z1 got really bad pictures after unlocking and there was a noticeable distortion difference.... I now have a z2 and it wont be unlocked..
There are many threads with this..
Which device did you use?
Envious_Data said:
Actualy i did a test and camera quality was identical with UB abd LB across 3 different deviced
1. Locked and unlocked tested in 3 states
2, never unlocked
3. Unlocked
Ill post a link to my results when i find them again
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Thanks ?
HellRoot said:
My z1 got really bad pictures after unlocking and there was a noticeable distortion difference.... I now have a z2 and it wont be unlocked..
There are many threads with this..
Which device did you use?
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Z2, i Used 3 Z2s
1. My own one
-Unlocked bootloader
-Relocked
-Relocked with TA
2. Freinds unlocked bootloader
3. Another Freinds never unlocked bootloader
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7kXPU2Y8c5xY2xwSGRHSXpBbkk/edit?usp=docslist_api
Here are my test results
Sony support even said X-Reality is the only thing you would lose and its true, ive still got noise canceling bionz and everything else, even camera quality is the same, my test above can prove this
If i relock my bootloader i will get the features back?
Duilio Patiño said:
If i relock my bootloader i will get the features back?
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If you have the ta-backup then probably yes
Duilio Patiño said:
If i relock my bootloader i will get the features back?
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Only if you back up your TA and restore
(restoring yout TA relocks it)
Envious_Data said:
Z2, i Used 3 Z2s
1. My own one
-Unlocked bootloader
-Relocked
-Relocked with TA
2. Freinds unlocked bootloader
3. Another Freinds never unlocked bootloader
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7kXPU2Y8c5xY2xwSGRHSXpBbkk/edit?usp=docslist_api
Here are my test results
Sony support even said X-Reality is the only thing you would lose and its true, ive still got noise canceling bionz and everything else, even camera quality is the same, my test above can prove this
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Guess you were lucky then, I was not and the quality of mine was greatly decreased
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/
From Sony.. It mentions the algorithms
HellRoot said:
Guess you were lucky then, I was not and the quality of mine was greatly decreased
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/
From Sony.. It mentions the algorithms
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It states for Z3
On the Z2 white papers it says this shouldent happen because content on sirius is protectable even with a broken DRM signature
Maybe ur just unlucky i guess :/
How can I tell if my bootloader is already unlocked?
keithljh said:
How can I tell if my bootloader is already unlocked?
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1) Go to your phone dialer.
2) Type *#*#7378423#*#*
3) Tap Service info, and then tap Configuration.
4) Look to the Rooting status section. It will display one of three bootloader statuses.
Bootloader status 1) Bootloader unlock allowed: No (this means you can't unlock your bootloader at all, don't ask if there is any way you can cause there isn't.)
Bootloader status 2) Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes (this means you can unlock your bootloader, remember to take TA backups and make multiple TA backups in case anything happens to your hard drive.)
Bootloader status 3) Bootloader unlock: Yes (this means your bootloader is unlocked, I hope you made them TA backups.)
So, with the new update to 4.4.4 I can't use Play Station App and Play Station Remote, another things that I can't use or I lost with unlocked BL?