Hey,
What exactly do I loose when I unlock and root my device? Is is a train smash?
Regards,
I... Don't know what a train smash is, but on a typical phone, you lose nothing by rooting.
The Xperia Z2 is somewhat different in that, due to having no root exploits released so far, you must first unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernal in order to root. The process of unlocking wipes all data from the phone. Also, you'll lose your DRM keys, which are (arguably) not important, but will lose access to Sony Unlimited Video and Music, as well as void your warranty (but only if someone bothers to check it extensively, which likely they won't).
King Cole said:
I... Don't know what a train smash is, but on a typical phone, you lose nothing by rooting.
The Xperia Z2 is somewhat different in that, due to having no root exploits released so far, you must first unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernal in order to root. The process of unlocking wipes all data from the phone. Also, you'll lose your DRM keys, which are (arguably) not important, but will lose access to Sony Unlimited Video and Music, as well as void your warranty (but only if someone bothers to check it extensively, which likely they won't).
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Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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misiakr said:
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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No issues here.
Puffin617 said:
Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
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Correct.
misiakr said:
I wouldn't root this phone, as it is by far, my most faulty device I have ever had. Now I got my third device...
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No issues here, and I'm on a rather dated firmware too (the .64 if I'm not mistaken).
Puffin617 said:
Are the DRM keys the only thing that is irreplaceable?
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DRM keys are lost yes. But they don't affect anything like on previous Sony devices. Bootloader unlocked and everything will work just as before.
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Fidelio_o said:
DRM keys are lost yes. But they don't affect anything like on previous Sony devices. Bootloader unlocked and everything will work just as before.
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Yes correct to all xperias with 4.4 KK
Data is wiped with a couple and some not
Puffin617 said:
Hey,
What exactly do I loose when I unlock and root my device? Is is a train smash?
Regards,
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Nothing is lost besides DRM keys, your warrenty/garentee
(xreality and xperia services still work)
And the contents of you internal storage as your data is wiped when you unlock
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Thanks guys.
Personally I don't want to root the phone cause the stock ROM is just fine for me. I need some suggestions to get alternatives to root apps like Titanium Backup, etc.
Puffin617 said:
Thanks guys.
Personally I don't want to root the phone cause the stock ROM is just fine for me. I need some suggestions to get alternatives to root apps like Titanium Backup, etc.
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I would suggest not to root as u won't get allot but loose warranty etc.Some root apps now work with non root phones like greenify which is awesome.U can try that.
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Guys, do you have any idea when or if it will be possible to root Xperia without unlocking bootloader?
misiakr said:
Guys, do you have any idea when or if it will be possible to root Xperia without unlocking bootloader?
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This can happen any time. Just waiting for a Dev to find an exploit.
So tomorrow or maybe never. Who's to say?
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Doesnt look like n e time soon as less devs on Z2 for now
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Sharingspider I dont understand
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If they get the TA Backup thing sorted for the Z2, will that mean that I can go ahead and root then restore to factory as if nothing happened?
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Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
nielo360 said:
Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
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Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
nielo360 said:
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
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I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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Confirmed.
Unlock bootloader.
Flash DooMLoRDs CWM Recovery and boot into recovery an you'll get root as a side effect. Make sure you flash a Superuser zip....
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
nielo360 said:
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
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you and many others (me for example.) seems like many of devs havent got sgp321 in hand so they're more focused in sgp311 and312. I've mentioned before there is paradox for sgp321.
# You can backup Ta partition for bravia engine 2 and drm keys.
# But you cant do that without root.
# You cant Root (yet) without unlocking bootloader.
# With bootloader unlocked you'll lost DRM key and BA2 forever. (you cant flash others TA partition you'll hard brick the device).
I've asked a question in QA if the mods can make three subforums for SGP 321,311 and 312 so that people wont flash wrong tft or try flashing wrong firmware in wrong device as every Model is reffered to Xperia Z ( I almost flashed xperia Z phone's firmware to SGP 321) its just disaster waiting to happen.
The naming convention used by sony itself is a bit strange when i try to google xperia tablet z related stuff i get xperia z stuff same with youtube. its tough finding guides. In terms of marketing it seems like an odd choice too. Xperia z and xperia tablet z can be confusing for daily consumers despite one being a phone and another a tab
isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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I confirms the. Got ROOT this method.
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Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
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well actually there is but from xperia z smartphone (it was 10.1.A.1.434 before came update to 10.1.1.A.1.253 ). Furthermore smartphone has the same hardware as tablet (Wifi+LTE), the difference seems to be only in screen size, and camera. So if you take the risk you can downgrade to .434, get root and the update to .253.
Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
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Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
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My bootloader is unlocked and x-reality works fine.
.402 fw
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eRajesh said:
Since this question is going to be asked quite a lot of times over the coming few months, I wanted to make sure this question is addressed properly.
What all features are disabled once you unlock the bootloader on the Xperia Z2?
1) X-Reality is disabled. If you take the backup of the TA partition, you can restore it after re-locking the bootloader to enable this functionality.
2) Bionic image processor -- Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. I am looking for a *confirmed* answer here.
User inputs will be highly appreciated.
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There is a patch to re-enable X-Reality with bootloader unlocked.
Presently, there is no way to backup TA partition.
Where is this patch.
nintendolinky said:
Where is this patch.
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Here
EDIT: no longer here, ask for it at @auras76
EDIT2: rom RomAur v3.1 and rom monxDIFIED v02-01 are two custom roms based on .402 with X-Reality enabled.
Have you got a link mate, I can't find it in that thread, or is it built in to the ROM.
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Have you got a link mate, I can't find it in that thread, or is it built in to the ROM.
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The patch is no longer here, ask for it at @auras76 or use rom RomAur v3.1 or rom monxDIFIED v02-01 that are two custom roms based on .402 with X-Reality enabled.
So what happens to the camera functionality? isn't it affected?
X Reality isn't working for everyone on those ROMs, myself included, so be wary!
Regards
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Thanks for your reply guys.
Does anyone know about the Bionic image processor being disabled as well? I will then compile everything to the OP and request a mod to make it a sticky
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There is a patch to re-enable X-Reality with bootloader unlocked.
Presently, there is no way to backup TA partition.
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so practically that means rooting now will void the warranty forever?
vsagonas said:
so practically that means rooting now will void the warranty forever?
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Yes, but will they verify if the DRM keys are still present?
nreuge said:
Yes, but will they verify if the DRM keys are still present?
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This depends on where you got the phone from
If its directly from sony then they will check
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Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
Hey Mate , Thank you for your reply
I have tried it but it didnt work, it says my "phone isnt vunerable", I have sent to author waiting his reply.
If you have any other pointers for me that would be great !
a.hamameh96 said:
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
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I have also the same error now we are sure that our devices are not supported yet I think he needs some informations about the kernel.
I sent him message and I got a reply but he thought that I have 4.4.2.
He told me that he is busy.
I sent another message and I'm waiting his reply.
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Then How to do it even with losing data, but not losing the original FTF ?
Again sorry for being a noob
Envious_Data said:
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
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hoooka said:
Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
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Its not too complicated, but im sure its 100% safe. The step only required downgrade and then install the pre-rooted rom. If you know how to flash with flashtool, then this is not a big problem. Before you begin, please make sure you understand each step that you gonna do. This is how actually i do.
1. Download all files required(ftf, rooting tools, prf creator, recovery, etc)
2. Make the pre-rooted rom first.(i just skip that step 11)
3. Flash the stock .314
4. Root & recovery it.
5. Insert that pre-rooted ftf that i made early, in my case i also use a stock rom .167
6. Reboot and finish.
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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ka1eid said:
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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yuskhayru said:
This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes root doesn't harm your DRM keys only unlocking the bootloader will do that and here are so manybthreads howto get root on locked bootloader, just search before posting and read the rules !!
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So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes rooting doesn't Unlock your bootloader so no loss of DRM keys. Its theoretically impossible to hard brick a locked boot loader Z2.
Hi guys, I unlocked my BL, then I enabled my Xperia app. Now I can no more run fastboot command (not allowed). Can you help me please? Is there any way to fix it? Or where can I repair my tablet? I live in Italy, Sony said won't support me in any way
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farfetch said:
Hi guys, I unlocked my BL, then I enabled my Xperia app. Now I can no more run fastboot command (not allowed). Can you help me please? Is there any way to fix it? Or where can I repair my tablet? I live in Italy, Sony said won't support me in any way
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There's no way to fix, you have to sell it as bricked device...
AndroPlus said:
There's no way to fix, you have to sell it as bricked device...
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Totally no way to repair it?
Good move Sony...
Edit: tablet runs regularly, I can update with companion app and everything... Just fastboot looks broken.
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farfetch said:
Totally no way to repair it?
Good move Sony...
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Yes.
Sony warns this problem in bootloader unlocking page, so read carefully before trying.
(they should change it to big red text?)
Unlocking bootloader is risky thing if you don't read warning.
Also security and encryption features often don't work on unlocked bootloader, so don't expect them to work.
AndroPlus said:
Yes.
Sony warns this problem in bootloader unlocking page, so read carefully before trying.
(they should change it to big red text?[emoji14])
Unlocking bootloader is risky thing if you don't read warning.
Also security and encryption features often don't work on unlocked bootloader, so don't expect them to work.
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I only want to get root
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farfetch said:
I only want to get root
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Be patient, in that case...
AndroPlus said:
Yes.
Sony warns this problem in bootloader unlocking page, so read carefully before trying.
(they should change it to big red text?[emoji14])
Unlocking bootloader is risky thing if you don't read warning.
Also security and encryption features often don't work on unlocked bootloader, so don't expect them to work.
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I noticed Sony Mobile Flashtool give same error on my full working Z5c (ERROR - Can't read a byte value), so that should be a Flashtool issue... Maybe fixing that, I could flash and unbrick my Z4 tablet (?)
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Hi all bro.
As the title, I want to root XZ1 without Unlock bootloader.
Can you guide me how to do it?
Thank you.
Imposible.
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I'm sure you've already seen my answer in https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1/help/how-to-root-xperia-xz1-unlock-bootloader-t3814906.
It is still impossible.
4rz0 said:
I'm sure you've already seen my answer in https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1/help/how-to-root-xperia-xz1-unlock-bootloader-t3814906.
It is still impossible.
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I know, but I just moved the thread about right with the thread.
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Imposible.
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Thank you.
Can you guide me to root by UL and still retain the drmkey of sony?
I read about forum posts but I'm not very computer literate.
Thank you.
What you want is impossible, pain and simple. The ONLY way to root the phone is to unlock the bootloader and by doing that you WILL lose the DRM keys. There is no way of backing them up, you just keep it stock or you root, you choose.
Even if you take a second to look at the forum you'll see that the bounty for a root method without unlocking bootloader it losing DRM keys has never been claimed since it can't be achieved.
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What you want is impossible, pain and simple. The ONLY way to root the phone is to unlock the bootloader and by doing that you WILL lose the DRM keys. There is no way of backing them up, you just keep it stock or you root, you choose.
Even if you take a second to look at the forum you'll see that the bounty for a root method without unlocking bootloader it losing DRM keys has never been claimed since it can't be achieved.
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Thank you.
before you use Xperia Z3 6.0. is made.
but since XZ out the eye, that is not possible.