Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
anyone?
Well is there any way to receive notifications from the mobile site? I think I recall a few years back when Google pulled sync support for iOS that some iPhone users had to do some shenanigans like this without push support and people used apps that were essentially browsers to check mail and provide notifications. Is there anything similar on Android? Or does it not exist since it's a niche concept? I just have a hard time believing I'm the only person with this problem.
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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That's for the reply. I'll give that a go. I've actually rigged it up so I still get notifications at this point through filters and auto forwards to my personal account. But something more native would be a lot better. Thanks again.
No further information on this thread?
I'm in the same situation with my company making the switch to google apps. They are enforcing encryption and non root'd phone. I have found that I can use IMAP to get my email, but my calendar is not found.
I have looked into just circumventing the checks....the only encryption solution i've found is some twrp/titanium back up so that you can at least easily recover systems after u've already been encrypted (not exactly a great solution).
As for the root access, ,the only solution i've found is with rootcloak (im not even sure if either of these solutions would actually work. I'm very much interested in a real solution.
Rootcloack didn't work for me, but that was 8 months ago. Try Touchdown, it's free for 30 days.
Try bluemail.
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Try bluemail.
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No luck for me. I appreciate the recommendation. I thought it was going to work when it went through my job's secure portal for setup but not such luck.
I'm looking for a way to do this as well.
I'm in a very similar situation and looking for the same workaround. Currently I'm able to use Edison Software's "Email" app to log in my corporate email account, but without the ability to receive notifications... which is a step better to endure the horrible mobile UI on gmail's website, but still would be better to have push notifications
Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
B1gC72 said:
Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
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Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
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Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
Me too...
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Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My educational institution's unlimited-storage Google account seems like the perfect match for this phone, but draconian MDM is a non-starter. Hopefully someone in the community does find a workaround at some point!
I have the exact same problem. I got a new personal phone which I was hoping I would be able to use Gmail and Google Classroom on for school but the device policy manager deactivates a bunch of my settings when i try it. The accounts just don't work without the policy manager, from the internet or the app. Do you think that if I were to speak to the school about it that they would be able to remove it? or is it impossible from their end due to the privileges they need over the account for security etc?
Thanks for your help,
Boxboy5
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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Initial Release: http://www.spikedsoftware.co.uk/blo...sending-smss-via-your-mobile-using-interwebs/
Evening guys,
I don't know about you, but i'm tired of texting from my whone when i'm at my desk. It's a long process and makes it look like i'm not busy at my desk, especially if i'm having a bit of a discussion with friends.
So i decided to write an app that sits on the phone, waiting for SMS's to be sent. You login to a web portal (which the app also logs into) and create your SMS there (as many as you wish) and when the app checks (every 1s to 300s) it'll download the messages you want to send, then send them. With a delivery report if you so wish.
Also looking for more features to add in once released, for example, SMSing you where your phone is, if you've lost it. Using the GPS.
It's still early, but that app is nearly programmatically complete. It's not very pretty, nor is the website. Hoping to get time this week to tidy it all up and get a test release out.
Watch this space Not even sure if this sort of app will be popular!
Will also be posting release information to my blog, http://www.spikedsoftware.co.uk
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Evening guys,
I don't know about you, but i'm tired of texting from my whone when i'm at my desk. It's a long process and makes it look like i'm not busy at my desk, especially if i'm having a bit of a discussion with friends.
So i decided to write an app that sits on the phone, waiting for SMS's to be sent. You login to a web portal (which the app also logs into) and create your SMS there (as many as you wish) and when the app checks (every 1s to 300s) it'll download the messages you want to send, then send them. With a delivery report if you so wish.
Also looking for more features to add in once released, for example, SMSing you where your phone is, if you've lost it. Using the GPS.
It's still early, but that app is nearly programmatically complete. It's not very pretty, nor is the website. Hoping to get time this week to tidy it all up and get a test release out.
Watch this space Not even sure if this sort of app will be popular!
Will also be posting release information to my blog, http://www.spikedsoftware.co.uk
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Not sure if this app will be popular!! Who are you kidding?
They charge a lot for this kind of thing, so it isn't cheap. If you want free hosting, let me know - I am not sure what methods you will be using for this, but as long as you know how to create the site, I can host it.
Thanks for the offer, for the moment i have hosting sorted however
Do you have the urls to the competitors?
Cheers,
Dean
Sounds good, but how will this differ from, say, mIQ? That allows you to send and receive SMSs via the web.
Huh... didn't actually see that on the web there.
Safe to say it's far more advanced that my application would be anytime soon. The only difference would be my remote GPS finder and that i had a plan to develop an app for Android.
Not much point now.
Thanks for finding that before i got too far into development!
sounds great, looking forward to it
Other than remote GPS finder, will there be any other special features?
Looks like i won't be continuing, mIQ already have the app i'm creating!
Well don't lose interest just yet. A dedicated solution just for that task, especially one I could host on say my own website would be a much preferred solution for me than yet another social site having access to all my information.
Its a cool idea, but I could see how people would be concerned with privacy. My text messages aren't always PG nor are the discussions always "legal". I personally don't concern myself with privacy anyhow.
Right now I just run MyMobiler and tether the phone to my PC and use the phone GUI with my keyboard. This app/service WOULD be very helpful for people with ridiculously strict IT departments and people who don't use Windows OS on their workstations. I'll definitely check it out when released. Sounds cool.
Eoinoc said:
Well don't lose interest just yet. A dedicated solution just for that task, especially one I could host on say my own website would be a much preferred solution for me than yet another social site having access to all my information.
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Its a cool idea, but I could see how people would be concerned with privacy. My text messages aren't always PG nor are the discussions always "legal". I personally don't concern myself with privacy anyhow.
Right now I just run MyMobiler and tether the phone to my PC and use the phone GUI with my keyboard. This app/service WOULD be very helpful for people with ridiculously strict IT departments and people who don't use Windows OS on their workstations. I'll definitely check it out when released. Sounds cool.
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+1, a server that YOU choose would be fairly better than having to use a common service that would store our data...
The webserver could be our pc, or why not, getting a way to get it working throught a php script that could be hosted on any host we want to
Just my opinion...
[APP - Release] Send SMS from your PC, RELEASED.
Well, you guys are on the exact train i am.
Basically, i was going to host it on my site, and if people were interested, then open it up for registration etc. However, you're right, Privacy was a worry and i'm not sure i like my information being held by someone else, i only just allowe Facebook to.
So, i'll continue, get it polished up, then release a package that people can deploy wherever the hell they want
Hopefully this weekend some time, i would imagine? Busy all week
Cheers guys!
thats the spirit man.. just checked out that other software.. exactly the sort of thing i DIDN'T want.. uninstalled it within 5mins of messing around.
Looking forward to your solution! sounds much more like the sort of thing I would be interested in (and many more im sure)
Anyone think of a good name? :\
Working on it at the moment
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Well, you guys are on the exact train i am.
Basically, i was going to host it on my site, and if people were interested, then open it up for registration etc. However, you're right, Privacy was a worry and i'm not sure i like my information being held by someone else, i only just allowe Facebook to.
So, i'll continue, get it polished up, then release a package that people can deploy wherever the hell they want
Hopefully this weekend some time, i would imagine? Busy all week
Cheers guys!
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I REALLY like this idea. Please keep me informed!
why not use mymobiler?
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why not use mymobiler?
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Because you need to be able to get to your phone, i.e. ActiveSync or via WiFi.
I don't know about you, but at my place of work, we don't have any drivers installed on the machines to allow us to use USB Devices, other than the keyboard and mouse. And we don't have WiFi that will get us onto the main network. So that option would be out.
Sounds really cool, I'd definitely use it. Right now I just use MyMobiler and just type with my pc keyboard on my phone under the keyboard on ABC. Works fine for me now, but my phone needs to be plugged in if I want to use it.
Hey all,
Thanks for the support, very early release can be found here.
Please can you all try it, let me know how you get on. It's very simple, but it does the trick.
Cheers,
D
Sounds like a good idea, but not sure how many people know this, but as long as you know that format for a carrier you can actually send a message via e-mail to a person's phone as a text.
For Sprint it's <10 digit number>@messaging.sprintpcs.com
for AT&T it's <10 digit number>@txt.att.net and to send MMS to ATT it's @mms.att.net
I have a list of HUNDREDS of the formats somewhere I will post if you all want.
Could you? Would be interesting. Thanks.
Any tried it yet? I've had alot of views and no feedback?
I'm gonna stop using Aim, along with every other messaging client. My only problem is that none of my friends actually use Google Talk, but the majority of them actually have an Android and obviously have a Google account. I need to build up a list of reasons why they should use it so I can actually convince them to
start using it.
Thanks in advance
Sent from my LG-VM670 running Harmonia2 IHO using Tapatalk
because you can. I cant use it in ontario canada. drives me nuts!
Because of the integration the google apps have on android for obvious reasons lol.
I know it's light on the battery, notifications work flawlessly, GTalk never crashed for me, and I'm sure it doesn't need to be updated so often.
Every Android user got it on his phone, so no need to install another application for chating
I'll give a con:
it disconnects (other people see you offline) WAY TOO often.
Around the web you may find scripts useful to reduce heartbeats interval (means keepalive), but you need root at least in order to use them.
I'd love to use gTalk. Unfortunately, it fails as a always on chat app. Ironic, isn't it ?
I bought a subscription to PIA last night. Seemed like a reputable provider, highly recommended. I'm not really trying to hide anything that needs to be hidden, per se, just like my privacy. I know how to set up a VPN on a computer, Win/Linux, and PIA even has an app for Android that I'm using, but I've still a question or two for those knowledgeable on the subject...
By activating the VPN, is everything secure? As in, everything that users DATA (apps, Facebook, email?) Or just browsers? I don't even see the option, but does each browser have to be configured with the VPN? I mainly use Firefox Aurora. Are there any NONOs that would cause data/dns leaks (like, say, with TOR and pdf/flash?)
I also have a few questions about TOR on Android if anyone has knowledge with that. Like I said, I mainly just Facebook and Google searches, crack flashing, and mod the phone itself. However, with all this NSA/PRISM crap talk, I figured it was just time to protect my data from mining... Because it's mine.
I realize to truly keep some sense anonymity to not login to FB, Email and the like, before anyone starts in on that, but refer to the top about not hiding anything worth really being hidden I searched for a board on VPNs and security, but didn't come across one. SO, if I should have this moved, no problem.
VZW Gnote2 running Moon ROM V4. Boom!
shill1986 said:
I bought a subscription to PIA last night. Seemed like a reputable provider, highly recommended. I'm not really trying to hide anything that needs to be hidden, per se, just like my privacy. I know how to set up a VPN on a computer, Win/Linux, and PIA even has an app for Android that I'm using, but I've still a question or two for those knowledgeable on the subject...
By activating the VPN, is everything secure? As in, everything that users DATA (apps, Facebook, email?) Or just browsers? I don't even see the option, but does each browser have to be configured with the VPN? I mainly use Firefox Aurora. Are there any NONOs that would cause data/dns leaks (like, say, with TOR and pdf/flash?)
I also have a few questions about TOR on Android if anyone has knowledge with that. Like I said, I mainly just Facebook and Google searches, crack flashing, and mod the phone itself. However, with all this NSA/PRISM crap talk, I figured it was just time to protect my data from mining... Because it's mine.
I realize to truly keep some sense anonymity to not login to FB, Email and the like, before anyone starts in on that, but refer to the top about not hiding anything worth really being hidden I searched for a board on VPNs and security, but didn't come across one. SO, if I should have this moved, no problem.
VZW Gnote2 running Moon ROM V4. Boom!
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I believe that all your traffic is redirected by the VPN, but I'm not sure. Traceroute your traffic to check, but that doesn't mean that certain apps aren't rerouted through the VPN. I would look deeper into Android VPN before assuming that all traffic is redirected. It is a good question.
Yeah I was hoping the app would have a root mode (it doesn't), like TOR proxies all apps, but TOR is slow. Will do that though, good idea.
VZW Gnote2 running Moon ROM V4. Boom!
Don't forget to check VPNRoot app. It allows you to connect without any security lock on the device.
I just switched from a pixel 3 XL to the v60.
I didn't need a work profile on my pixel. All my Gmail and drive apps worked with it.
Now that I have the v60, it forces me to make a work profile when I add my work email to drive or Gmail.
It makes it so I must use a screen lock. I just want to hit the power button to unlock. It blocks those options. In order to have 1 Gmail, 1 drive app, and disable screen lock, I have to delete the work profile, thus losing access to my work stuff.
Is there a way to have it like it was on my pixel? Just one app, and not be blocked from disabling screen lock?
TIA
As somebody on the IT team, I would wipe and blacklist your phone if I find out you're trying circumvent our security measures, and you wouldn't be the first. (When you log in to the portal, it tells us every single device that are out of compliance, so it doesn't even take serious effort to find out.) Then we would report what you did and how we responded to our c level exec.
But hey, that's just me protecting my company from security risks like you. You do you
jd254 said:
As somebody on the IT team, I would wipe and blacklist your phone if I find out you're trying circumvent our security measures, and you wouldn't be the first. (When you log in to the portal, it tells us every single device that are out of compliance, so it doesn't even take serious effort to find out.) Then we would report what you did and how we responded to our c level exec.
But hey, that's just me protecting my company from security risks like you. You do you
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That's not how it works at all. IT admin has the ability to wipe the device if a separate work profile is not installed. A separate work profile prevents the user's personal data from being wiped.
OP- I'm the admin at my company, and I don't enforce a work profile for this reason, it's wonky and works like **** since inception. I came here hoping to see a workaround but it looks like that's a fail. This thing is getting traded as soon as T-Mobile gets a comparable replacement.
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OP- I'm the admin at my company, and I don't enforce a work profile for this reason, it's wonky and works like **** since inception. I came here hoping to see a workaround but it looks like that's a fail. This thing is getting traded as soon as T-Mobile gets a comparable replacement.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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Actually I have work profiles set for opt-in only. When I had this happen yesterday, I checked the admin panel of our gsuite account.
Funny thing is, I returned my v60 and reactivated my wiped OP8, and it now requires a work profile too.
This leads me to believe it's not enforced by gsuite, but by android in some recent update. I didn't need a work profile on this same phone yesterday, but had the account logged in since I had the phone so it must have grandfathered it in somehow until I factory reset it.
Kind of sucks that I can't combine calendar widgets and whatnot but I guess I'll deal with it since I have no choice....as the admin even lmao.
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Actually I have work profiles set for opt-in only. When I had this happen yesterday, I checked the admin panel of our gsuite account.
Funny thing is, I returned my v60 and reactivated my wiped OP8, and it now requires a work profile too.
This leads me to believe it's not enforced by gsuite, but by android in some recent update. I didn't need a work profile on this same phone yesterday, but had the account logged in since I had the phone so it must have grandfathered it in somehow until I factory reset it.
Kind of sucks that I can't combine calendar widgets and whatnot but I guess I'll deal with it since I have no choice....as the admin even lmao.
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I can understand the frustration, but this sort of functionality makes sense to me. Keeping the work profile sandboxed protects corporate info.
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I can understand the frustration, but this sort of functionality makes sense to me. Keeping the work profile sandboxed protects corporate info.
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Again, that's not the case. Device Policy protects corporate info. That's enforced with or without the work profile. The work profile protects personal info from being erased in the case of separation from the company.
I am having this exact problem with my new LG Velvet... my pixel 2XL and pixel 3a had no problem. I am also the company owner/admin/janitor/sales assistant.... switching profiles to check my six email accounts is a giant pain. Sooooo Aside from the, not helpful, justification for this supposed new " feature" does anyone have any suggestions?
I have asked my company about this. They have not set anything like this up. So, it's not on their side. I have no info that private. So it's automatic. Something on LGs side. Maybe this thread will get some attention. Hoping for a fix.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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I agree it's a Gsuite thing... I tried opt-in and then I completely disabled work profiles in my gsuite admin and waited the recommended 24 hours. I have also factory reset the phone AFTER said changes. I added my primary (personal) Gmail no issue but as soon as I added the gsuite one I'm back in the same "Google Play services requires account action" loop. when I click on that it wants to add a work profile.
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I agree it's a Gsuite thing... I tried opt-in and then I completely disabled work profiles in my gsuite admin and waited the recommended 24 hours. I have also factory reset the phone AFTER said changes. I added my primary (personal) Gmail no issue but as soon as I added the gsuite one I'm back in the same "Google Play services requires account action" loop. when I click on that it wants to add a work profile.
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I don't think it's g suite. Bc my pixel did not do this.
This work profiles thing is such a garbage solution to the problem. Google is shooting themselves in the Android foot by doing this. Seriously? BYOD means using multiple email apps and multiple calendar widgets and me buying an iPhone? Seems to be the simplest solution. Thanks.
any day google can increase the security more and more... i think even if you get it working this time, it might not last long. its a huge pain and now i just access work emails via mobile browsers and i believe Firefox beta can load office365 and gsuit apps or most of them.
Samsung pass doesn't work. What do you guys use I just came from iphone and it has a password manager built in. What free ones are available
1password. Works everywhere and on everything.
Bitwarden has a free account offering and their premium is very cheap.
Bitwarden is free, open source and the premium is literally $10 per year if you wanted it but it's not needed, everything is available for free except the encrypted cloud storage.
I use Bitwarden's $10 a year tier so I can use my YubiKeys with it.
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
GastonC said:
How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
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Under passwords and autofill in settings. Then select autofill service.
Bitwarden $10 annual plan. Avoid using LastPass as they have had several security breaches recently.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
evangelionpunk said:
Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
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Your choice. Google has never failed me.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
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EtherealRemnant said:
Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
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These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
Brava27 said:
Your choice. Google has never failed me.
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Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
spart0n said:
Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
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I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
Does Google password manager fill in apps?
I second avoiding LastPass. In addition to the semi-annual breaches, their pricing is ridiculous. $50/year to store 100kB of data in the cloud? There has been zero evolution to their app over the last 5 years, so it is not like they have heavy RnD costs.
Brava27 said:
I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
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Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
spart0n said:
Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
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Yeah that's true. My good friend just passed at 37. His poor wife couldn't access his iPhone and it made things very difficult to process things and get photos etc.... I will do this process for my wife.
Brava27 said:
These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
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Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
EtherealRemnant said:
Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
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I'll look into bitwarden. Thanks
KeePass Offline; only caveat is that you have to back it up manually (so each time I update it, I copy it to other devices in case the phone dies or is erased or stolen; my password is super long but I only have to remember one password).