I just switched from a pixel 3 XL to the v60.
I didn't need a work profile on my pixel. All my Gmail and drive apps worked with it.
Now that I have the v60, it forces me to make a work profile when I add my work email to drive or Gmail.
It makes it so I must use a screen lock. I just want to hit the power button to unlock. It blocks those options. In order to have 1 Gmail, 1 drive app, and disable screen lock, I have to delete the work profile, thus losing access to my work stuff.
Is there a way to have it like it was on my pixel? Just one app, and not be blocked from disabling screen lock?
TIA
As somebody on the IT team, I would wipe and blacklist your phone if I find out you're trying circumvent our security measures, and you wouldn't be the first. (When you log in to the portal, it tells us every single device that are out of compliance, so it doesn't even take serious effort to find out.) Then we would report what you did and how we responded to our c level exec.
But hey, that's just me protecting my company from security risks like you. You do you
jd254 said:
As somebody on the IT team, I would wipe and blacklist your phone if I find out you're trying circumvent our security measures, and you wouldn't be the first. (When you log in to the portal, it tells us every single device that are out of compliance, so it doesn't even take serious effort to find out.) Then we would report what you did and how we responded to our c level exec.
But hey, that's just me protecting my company from security risks like you. You do you
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That's not how it works at all. IT admin has the ability to wipe the device if a separate work profile is not installed. A separate work profile prevents the user's personal data from being wiped.
OP- I'm the admin at my company, and I don't enforce a work profile for this reason, it's wonky and works like **** since inception. I came here hoping to see a workaround but it looks like that's a fail. This thing is getting traded as soon as T-Mobile gets a comparable replacement.
idefiler6 said:
OP- I'm the admin at my company, and I don't enforce a work profile for this reason, it's wonky and works like **** since inception. I came here hoping to see a workaround but it looks like that's a fail. This thing is getting traded as soon as T-Mobile gets a comparable replacement.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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Actually I have work profiles set for opt-in only. When I had this happen yesterday, I checked the admin panel of our gsuite account.
Funny thing is, I returned my v60 and reactivated my wiped OP8, and it now requires a work profile too.
This leads me to believe it's not enforced by gsuite, but by android in some recent update. I didn't need a work profile on this same phone yesterday, but had the account logged in since I had the phone so it must have grandfathered it in somehow until I factory reset it.
Kind of sucks that I can't combine calendar widgets and whatnot but I guess I'll deal with it since I have no choice....as the admin even lmao.
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Actually I have work profiles set for opt-in only. When I had this happen yesterday, I checked the admin panel of our gsuite account.
Funny thing is, I returned my v60 and reactivated my wiped OP8, and it now requires a work profile too.
This leads me to believe it's not enforced by gsuite, but by android in some recent update. I didn't need a work profile on this same phone yesterday, but had the account logged in since I had the phone so it must have grandfathered it in somehow until I factory reset it.
Kind of sucks that I can't combine calendar widgets and whatnot but I guess I'll deal with it since I have no choice....as the admin even lmao.
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I can understand the frustration, but this sort of functionality makes sense to me. Keeping the work profile sandboxed protects corporate info.
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I can understand the frustration, but this sort of functionality makes sense to me. Keeping the work profile sandboxed protects corporate info.
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Again, that's not the case. Device Policy protects corporate info. That's enforced with or without the work profile. The work profile protects personal info from being erased in the case of separation from the company.
I am having this exact problem with my new LG Velvet... my pixel 2XL and pixel 3a had no problem. I am also the company owner/admin/janitor/sales assistant.... switching profiles to check my six email accounts is a giant pain. Sooooo Aside from the, not helpful, justification for this supposed new " feature" does anyone have any suggestions?
I have asked my company about this. They have not set anything like this up. So, it's not on their side. I have no info that private. So it's automatic. Something on LGs side. Maybe this thread will get some attention. Hoping for a fix.
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I was discussing this with someone on another forum the other day, and it sounds like this is tied to g-suite. I don't know all the ins and outs of it (I don't need a work profile for my job), but it sounds like companies can set up a bring your own device policy in g-suite for your company email address. When you log that email address on to your phone, Google detects it and forces you to set up the work profile. From my understanding, this is a Google issue/feature, not LG's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the same problem on other phones when adding your corporate email address.
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I agree it's a Gsuite thing... I tried opt-in and then I completely disabled work profiles in my gsuite admin and waited the recommended 24 hours. I have also factory reset the phone AFTER said changes. I added my primary (personal) Gmail no issue but as soon as I added the gsuite one I'm back in the same "Google Play services requires account action" loop. when I click on that it wants to add a work profile.
God67 said:
I agree it's a Gsuite thing... I tried opt-in and then I completely disabled work profiles in my gsuite admin and waited the recommended 24 hours. I have also factory reset the phone AFTER said changes. I added my primary (personal) Gmail no issue but as soon as I added the gsuite one I'm back in the same "Google Play services requires account action" loop. when I click on that it wants to add a work profile.
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I don't think it's g suite. Bc my pixel did not do this.
This work profiles thing is such a garbage solution to the problem. Google is shooting themselves in the Android foot by doing this. Seriously? BYOD means using multiple email apps and multiple calendar widgets and me buying an iPhone? Seems to be the simplest solution. Thanks.
any day google can increase the security more and more... i think even if you get it working this time, it might not last long. its a huge pain and now i just access work emails via mobile browsers and i believe Firefox beta can load office365 and gsuit apps or most of them.
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I'm looking for recommendations on phone security apps in case my phone gets lost or stolen. Free or paid, I really don't care, I just want to sleep better knowing that if my clumsy self loses the phone I won't be out of 200 dollars. Thanks!
Lookout has been good for me. Does backups, anti-virus (however unnecessary as it may be right now), and phone location. Used it since beta Win Mo days.
-bZj
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Lookout has been good for me. Does backups, anti-virus (however unnecessary as it may be right now), and phone location. Used it since beta Win Mo days.
-bZj
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Thanks for the help! I tried the app and it works out well. Everything works well on it. I had to do the GPS fix on my phone to test out the Locate Device function, and good thing I did too! I would've been so mad if I used lookout and then realize the GPS on my phone didn't work, lol. Again, thanks!
I'm a fan of Mobile Defense. You can install as a system app and it will be able to survive a wipe. The only way to remove it would be a flash. It won't show up in app manager either. It can remotely activate the GPS and will notify you automatically of a sim card change via email. It can also remotely lock the phone even if you don't normally use a lock pattern. It can also display messages on the screen that won't go away without entering a code. So you can have the screen have a message telling the person to return the phone and the message won't go away until the code is entered.
The only downside is that I think the beta program is closed to new people right now. I'm not sure as I joined a while ago.
I demoed Wave Secure and liked it so much that I bought the subscription for my G1 and my Mom's My Touch.
Check the features here.
https://www.wavesecure.com/wavesecure/android.aspx
Good Luck!
And I became really a fan of the recently introduced Track and Protect. It's a service that not only allows you to locate your phone on map, lock it, wipe it or let it scream via a personal web panel but also allows you to make photos remotely and send a call back command to listen to your own phone. All this works even after SIM change! It has auto lock function, it reports you the thief's phone number, operator ID and location instantly. Really useful.
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And I became really a fan of the recently introduced Track and Protect. It's a service that not only allows you to locate your phone on map, lock it, wipe it or let it scream via a personal web panel but also allows you to make photos remotely and send a call back command to listen to your own phone. All this works even after SIM change! It has auto lock function, it reports you the thief's phone number, operator ID and location instantly. Really useful.
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Do you know any information on there "credit" method that they are using? It seems like a great service to use except that they don't tell you anything about these "credits" on the website without registering first.
Currently I use both Mobile Defense and Lookout. I always feel safe when I have more than one security app just in case. Although, Mobile Defense might also have a paid service in the future, similar to what Trust and Protect is doing. I wouldn't mind paying Mobile Defense since they allow us to install it as a system app, which a previous user explained upon.
I'm very confused, trying to make the leap from a PC (Windows and Linux),
where it is OBVIOUS how to distinquish one user in the household from another,
to my new B/N Nook Tablet.
Ok, so I'm now using my tablet. When I hit 'Home', my desktop shows that my logged-in email is an active app. (and so are a few others).
So, I completely power it down.
When I power it back up, I expected that my email would NOT be active.
But, it IS!
What if it was some OTHER household member who powered up the tablet?
(I do NOT want them, by default, seeing my email screen!)
Is there a solution? (Or should I just return this goofy 'tablet' to Barnes and Noble, and wait til next year to see if next-year's tablet OS works the
way most of us would want it to???)
For now, think of this tablet as a personal device such as a mobile phone. Pretty sure ICS works the same way too so it might be a long wait for you.
Ok.
Meanwhile, how do I explicitly shutdown (stop) my running apps
(e.g. my email app)?
Do I 'visit' each one, and find how each app handles stopping it?
Or, better...is there a 'task-mgr' (list) for my apps, so that I could select
them all and abort them?
You could get "advanced task killer" from the market. Not sure if it needs to be rooted or if you could just side load it.
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You could get "advanced task killer" from the market. Not sure if it needs to be rooted or if you could just side load it.
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Hmm...I'm still a newbie to all this 'root' vs 'side-load' terminology.
Side-load just means: 'Get it first on a real PC, then plug-in the USB-cable
to the tablet, and 'move it over'?
To 'root' something seems to mean that, in Linux-terminology, I first need to
have 'root' (super-user) privs, right? (I saw a thread about how to 'root'
the device, but am unclear about DETAILS. Does it violate warranties?
(yada, yada) Also, I THINK I'm hearing that, right now, I can only use
the Barnes/Noble 'app store' and NOT to the generic Android 'app store'?
True/false?
Are you saying I might need 'root' to INSTALL the app 'adv task killer', or
to RUN 'adv task killer'? (or both?)
It sounds like you want to have some form of screen locker in place so when you power back up (or unsleep) you have to enter a code or a pattern. This prevents unauthorized access to your personal tablet.
You should be able to activate it from the settings menu.
Concerning multiple logins, the presumption is one user per device. As to 'working how "most of us" would want it to'... Most people do prefer it this way. If someone else wants their own tablet, they should get their own tablet.
>the presumption is one user per device.
This is a legacy of Android still being a phone OS. Tablet is a more social device, and safe bet is that multiuser acct handling will show up at some point. Hopefully, soon. Else, Win8 will do what Android can't.
Android still has a lot of holes it needs to fill, and I'm not talking about apps.
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You don't need to "close" apps in Android. The OS manages memory as needed per least-recently-used basis. Using apps such as "Task Killer" is inefficient and will shorten battery life. There've been many articles/posts written on this topic. Google to find.
What's recommended is to run something like System Panel (free app in market). Over time, it'll give you a profile of which app is eating up the most battery. Use that to remove apps that are power-hogs.
At least on my Android cell phone, hitting the Home key leaves the current application running. Hitting the "Back" key ends the application. Not sure if the NT has a "Back" function...
rmm200 said:
At least on my Android cell phone, hitting the Home key leaves the current application running. Hitting the "Back" key ends the application. Not sure if the NT has a "Back" function...
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The NT does have a back key, but that behavior depends on how the app was designed and it not true for many apps. In fact, because of what e.mote described about Android's design for "backgrounded" apps, Google recommends that apps not be designed to close itself with the back button, menu command, etc except for special circumstances.
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@OP
You don't need to "close" apps in Android. The OS manages memory as needed per least-recently-used basis. Using apps such as "Task Killer" is inefficient and will shorten battery life. There've been many articles/posts written on this topic. Google to find.
What's recommended is to run something like System Panel (free app in market). Over time, it'll give you a profile of which app is eating up the most battery. Use that to remove apps that are power-hogs.
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Ah, but that's the question/issue: i.e. I WANT to close this particular app (email), for
security reasons!
Are you saying that apps in Android are often NOT programmed with a
mechanism to STOP them?
By design, yes - most apps are not programmed to fully stop themselves - they remain resident in memory in case you return to that app - it reduces load times and allows content viewing sites (news readers, downloading the newest emails, periodic alerting tools, etc) to work in the background so the information is available when you want it without having to do a load at the time you bring up the app.
Any app that's paused (not the current focus) may be asked to relinquish resources by the OS in order to allow another app (with the current focus) the ability to run. This is all handled by the OS, and applications are expected to always be interruptable, thus constantly persisting their state as they are being used. This allows for something else to interrupt (such as a phone call or selection of another app, or an alert from your alarm program) with a reasonable expectation that whatever you were doing wasn't lost.
The security built into Android is the ability to require a passcode or pattern to unlock the phone when coming out of a sleep state. Failing to set that pattern or passcode is a failing of the user, not the OS.
Phones and Tablets, from the android perspective, are an extension of the person. Though I sometimes use my wife's NookColor, or she mine - it is a rare thing and any use beyond that by friends is always supervised.
Other tablet OSs may have the concept of 'logging in', but not Android.
So, I'm screwed? No way to get her email logged in?
Hmm...I HOPE I'm still missing something simple. (Otherwise, I'm
screwed, and I'll have to return this diabolical BEAST to the store.)
This unit is a gift for my wife for Xmas.
To familiarize myself with it, I setup and logged-in to my
Gmail acct.
Of course, NOW I want to:
'Log out' of my gmail, and setup the 'email app' to login to
her email (non-Gmail-based). [And, have THAT one be the
always-open email-acct, (tho I do NOT LIKE this 'feature'
of always-logged-in at all!)]
How do I do that? ('Rooting' this Nook Tablet is NOT an option, so
if that's part of your proposed "solution", forget it.)
TIA...
cookdav said:
Hmm...I HOPE I'm still missing something simple. (Otherwise, I'm
screwed, and I'll have to return this diabolical BEAST to the store.)
This unit is a gift for my wife for Xmas.
To familiarize myself with it, I setup and logged-in to my
Gmail acct.
Of course, NOW I want to:
'Log out' of my gmail, and setup the 'email app' to login to
her email (non-Gmail-based). [And, have THAT one be the
always-open email-acct, (tho I do NOT LIKE this 'feature'
of always-logged-in at all!)]
How do I do that? ('Rooting' this Nook Tablet is NOT an option, so
if that's part of your proposed "solution", forget it.)
TIA...
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There should be an option in the Settings section to add and remove email accounts. I don't have a NT but that's pretty standard as Android devices go.
I have to say you seem to have a lot of misinformed expectations of the Android/Nook experience. Keep remembering that the software was originally developed for mobile phones, so expecting things to be done in the same way to a desktop OS is gonna cause you grief.
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There should be an option in the Settings section to add and remove email accounts. I don't have a NT but that's pretty standard as Android devices go.
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Ah...'should' is the operative word. But, I do NOT see any such option.
I have to say you seem to have a lot of misinformed expectations of the Android/Nook experience. Keep remembering that the software was originally developed for mobile phones, so expecting things to be done in the same way to a desktop OS is gonna cause you grief.
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Hmm...I'd characterize my expectations quite differently. This is the FIRST
(and I hope LAST) implementation of an 'email reader' that was designed
with NO WAY to log out/close down. Common sense SHOULD dictate
that they'd provide a way to log-out or reset to a different email-acct,
but so far, there's NO SIGN that anyone had any common sense.
Hey, maybe the 'crime-stoppers' (aka 'big brothers'/homeland-security) folks
asked for this 'feature'. It will make it easier now...they can just say:
"Great...there's her B/N Nook Tablet! She can't have logged out, so just look
thru her emails, and see who she's been corresponding with."
Right now, my opinion of this beast is worse than the 'Hotel California':
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
�relax,� said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!
Hell, on a Nook, I can't even checkout!
cookdav said:
Ah...'should' is the operative word. But, I do NOT see any such option.
Hmm...I'd characterize my expectations quite differently. This is the FIRST
(and I hope LAST) implementation of an 'email reader' that was designed
with NO WAY to log out/close down. Common sense SHOULD dictate
that they'd provide a way to log-out or reset to a different email-acct,
but so far, there's NO SIGN that anyone had any common sense.
Hey, maybe the 'crime-stoppers' (aka 'big brothers'/homeland-security) folks
asked for this 'feature'. It will make it easier now...they can just say:
"Great...there's her B/N Nook Tablet! She can't have logged out, so just look
thru her emails, and see who she's been corresponding with."
Right now, my opinion of this beast is worse than the 'Hotel California':
"You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave! "
Hell, on a Nook, I can't even checkout!
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But you can lock the tablet.
The option is there. I don't have my NT in front of me, but there is an option to remove B&N account settings and wipe the device. That's what you want. It will remove everything that you set up.
As far as your opinion that this is the first such email program that doesn't log out...there has never been a smartphone OS email program that logs completely out, or one that allows multiple users. Android was developed for Phones. The expectation is that you will use your phone, not share it with 10 people with each of them having their own settings.
Something that you are referring to is available, but not from an Android, Blackberry or iOS device. You would have to get a Windows (not Win Mobile) tablet, which will not work as well (yet) as any of the other OS's because it was not designed specifically for the hardware it's running on.
Easy way to have what you want on this tablet: Don't set up email using the built in email program. Use the browser and don't have it remember the password.
@OP
Your expectations aren't unreasonable. It's just that Android-on-tablet is still very much a work in progress, and you along with all of us are beta testers.
Multiuser handling is just one of many issues that have arisen. In the Kindle Fire forum, there are complaints about not being able to disable one-click purchasing for when handing the KF to your kids. iOS has had the same issue, and has a partial workaround. Until Android supports multiuser, there is no good solution.
For e-mail, you can try various email clients to see if any supports discrete logins/logouts (and of course pulling mail from your webmail account).
http://google.com/search?q=email+apps+for+android
cookdav said:
Ah...'should' is the operative word. But, I do NOT see any such option.
Hmm...I'd characterize my expectations quite differently. This is the FIRST
(and I hope LAST) implementation of an 'email reader' that was designed
with NO WAY to log out/close down. Common sense SHOULD dictate
that they'd provide a way to log-out or reset to a different email-acct,
but so far, there's NO SIGN that anyone had any common sense.
Hey, maybe the 'crime-stoppers' (aka 'big brothers'/homeland-security) folks
asked for this 'feature'. It will make it easier now...they can just say:
"Great...there's her B/N Nook Tablet! She can't have logged out, so just look
thru her emails, and see who she's been corresponding with."
Right now, my opinion of this beast is worse than the 'Hotel California':
"You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave! "
Hell, on a Nook, I can't even checkout!
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Jesus guy, it's not an 'email reader', whatever that means, it's a mobile tablet computer, and it handles email accounts the same way as all tablet computers that use a mobile OS (ones based on Android, iOS, and presumably webOS and Blackberry too), because they're designed for personal, individual use. Smartphones don't have a way to log out of your email account in the way you're expecting, and neither does a modern tablet.
If this is the first time you've used this type of device, you need to exercise more patience before you start stamping your feet, otherwise people are gonna be unwilling to help you.
I'm 100% certain there is a way to remove your email account from the device, you just haven't found it yet. This is very likely not the fault of the device! Did you even read the user manual? http://img1.imagesbn.com/pimages/nook/tablet/mediakit/userguide_NOOKTablet_111115.pdf
Reset the unit to factory standard and put it in the box, it is an option under 'settings' and will return it to the "as-purchased state" with all data wiped.
Then decide if you're returning it or wrapping it to give to your your wife.
In the future, consider letting the person receiving the gift having the pleasure of opening a unit in pristine condition. My wife would kill me if I "pre-opened" an electronic device intended for her "to familiarize myself with it". Let that happen on the day she opens it, after she's decided she needs help. I think it's deplorable that you've cracked the seals and denied her the experience of opening something new.
If you want to 'log out', then you have to shut the device down instead of leaving it in 'sleep mode'. No power means the apps aren't running (unless you or the OS have set them up as background processes). When you turn it back on, you'll realize quickly that there is no 'select profile' or 'choose user' function because it is designed to be one device for one user.
If the user wants security to prevent other people from reading sensitive information, they should set the screen lock code in the settings menu.
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At this point, I believe you have all the information you need:
1) Devices are intended to be single user, by design, regardless of your desire to have them be otherwise.
2) Use the built in screen lock capability if you are concerned about sensitive information being viewed.
3) You should reset the device to factory settings via the settings menu to wipe all data you've entered and return it to a nearly 'as new' state.
4) You should not be playing with your wife's new device and instead allow her to experience the setup guide and walk through the configuration of the device in the way she desires.
If there is another specific question about how things work or operate, please ask. If there are further conspiracy theories I'm sure there are better forums for that than this one.
Wow. lotta words - no Solution...
You're going to have to factory reset the device:
Settings>Device Info>Erase and Factory Reset
Once its resets, enter your wife's information.
You seem to think that phones and Pads run like Windows where you can log out as yourself and no one can see your email. Phones and pads are single user devices and will not work like Windows. Even Windows phones and pad don't operate like that.
I've searched the board here and found a few threads about bypassing the security policy when corporate email requires a pin/password code unlock on your phone preventing you from customizing your lock screen. All of the threads I saw where made under forums for other devices and I'm curious if anyone may know if they will work for the Verizon Note II?
I have a corp email account I sync on my phone and it forces me to use a pin lock or password phrase for security. I would like to try and get around this limitation, does anyone have any suggestions?
I'm trying to figure out the same thing.
I couldnt find anything in the play store that would do it.
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Enhanced email has the option
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smalltownbird said:
Enhanced email has the option
sent from my "Oh my God its huge" galaxy note 2
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I see it for $9.99 on the GooglePlay Store ... a little steep for a single option / enhancement.
Durzo.Blint said:
I've searched the board here and found a few threads about bypassing the security policy when corporate email requires a pin/password code unlock on your phone preventing you from customizing your lock screen. All of the threads I saw where made under forums for other devices and I'm curious if anyone may know if they will work for the Verizon Note II?
I have a corp email account I sync on my phone and it forces me to use a pin lock or password phrase for security. I would like to try and get around this limitation, does anyone have any suggestions?
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As the office IT guy. We make you set that stuff for a reason! Be careful as this could be a violation of your corporate use policy.
Make sure and ask your IT department before circumventing this policy.
However I belive touchdown leta you leave this password on just the exchange data on your phone.
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As the office IT guy. We make you set that stuff for a reason! Be careful as this could be a violation of your corporate use policy.
Make sure and ask your IT department before circumventing this policy.
However I belive touchdown leta you leave this password on just the exchange data on your phone.
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thanks for the help, but not only is Touchdown $19.99, according to their website the software will not bypass pin/password security.
Touchdown doesn't circumvent the policy but you only need to enter the pin when accessing anything synced to your device via the exchange service. Everything else is wide open. Personally, I prefer to have all my information locked down via a pin. Too much information accessible on these devices anymore and the minor inconvenience of entering a pin is a small price to pay IMHO
Durzo.Blint said:
I've searched the board here and found a few threads about bypassing the security policy when corporate email requires a pin/password code unlock on your phone preventing you from customizing your lock screen. All of the threads I saw where made under forums for other devices and I'm curious if anyone may know if they will work for the Verizon Note II?
I have a corp email account I sync on my phone and it forces me to use a pin lock or password phrase for security. I would like to try and get around this limitation, does anyone have any suggestions?
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my corporate exchange admin said that i simply needed to use the pattern unlock screen function and that would be sufficient. i'm sure its a configuration option he did on the exchange server.
Durzo.Blint said:
I've searched the board here and found a few threads about bypassing the security policy when corporate email requires a pin/password code unlock on your phone preventing you from customizing your lock screen. All of the threads I saw where made under forums for other devices and I'm curious if anyone may know if they will work for the Verizon Note II?
I have a corp email account I sync on my phone and it forces me to use a pin lock or password phrase for security. I would like to try and get around this limitation, does anyone have any suggestions?
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I rooted my Note 2 with "imnuts" deodexed version of the root method located here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035404
Then I was able to follow these directions located here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117452
This worked for what you are trying to do. Follow the directions and be sure and download the Java files that are pointed out and it will work just fine. It's real easy to do but make sure you FOLLOW the directions. I have used this method on my GS3 and it worked for it also.
Jetdr said:
I rooted my Note 2 with "imnuts" deodexed version of the root method located here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035404
Then I was able to follow these directions located here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117452
This worked for what you are trying to do. Follow the directions and be sure and download the Java files that are pointed out and it will work just fine. It's real easy to do but make sure you FOLLOW the directions. I have used this method on my GS3 and it worked for it also.
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Thanks a million for this!! I will try this and report back my results. :good:
Or just use maildroid. Its free in the play store
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As much as I would like to, I KNOW that my IT department would kick my @$$ if I did this. If your phone was lost/stolen, your exposing yourself to some serious issues if there is any sensitive info on your phone.
I just wish they would allow the pattern lock and not force the PIN method at my company.
I'm trying to setup a home VPN and I'm having the same issue. It's requiring I setup a security lock for my phone just to enter any VPN information.
Kind of frustrating because it's not a corporate network I'm connecting to, just my own personal home network. And there's no way for me to do it without some type of security lock. Very lame sauce.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
I'm trying to setup a home VPN and I'm having the same issue. It's requiring I setup a security lock for my phone just to enter any VPN information.
Kind of frustrating because it's not a corporate network I'm connecting to, just my own personal home network. And there's no way for me to do it without some type of security lock. Very lame sauce.
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Yeah I agree here, really wish there was a way to disable that feature. I understand that they want to make the device secure when using passwords, but it should be our choice when using that security. The VPN security is annoying as hell for me. I end up removing the vpn when I'm done.
Being the "IT Guy" at my job, once corporate data touches a person's phone it becomes a liability. No matter how you look at it. YES the phone belongs to you but the Email belongs to the company.
We enforce the Pin on our Exchange Servers here and require any employee to sign a contract pretty much stating that they're going to comply with the rules and regulations.
Is it inconvenient for the user, "He'll yeah it is", you know how often I get cussed out? But the fact of the matter is that the company has to protect itself.
Before we put this policy in place, we had an employee that had an iPad he had email and other proprietary materials on it. No Pin and it was a 3G model. He reported the iPad missing 5 days later only because he was wondering why his emails in outlook would go from unread to read with out him doing anything. After investigating it came out about the iPad and we had to remotely wiped it.
Long story short a company can't take chances with its information so if it means inconveniencing it's employees a little to give them the convenience (oxymoron) of using a mobile device for accessing data....then so be it.
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Is this exchange email security policy a verizon specific requirement? I just switched from sprint and never had to agree to any permissions that alowed my phone to factory reset without my input before. I was on HTC before but now samsung. Ditto a coworker who is now on motorola and gets the same excessive permissions to setup work email. So many limitations and restrictions since the switch that I would think about going back to Sprint
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Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
anyone?
Well is there any way to receive notifications from the mobile site? I think I recall a few years back when Google pulled sync support for iOS that some iPhone users had to do some shenanigans like this without push support and people used apps that were essentially browsers to check mail and provide notifications. Is there anything similar on Android? Or does it not exist since it's a niche concept? I just have a hard time believing I'm the only person with this problem.
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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That's for the reply. I'll give that a go. I've actually rigged it up so I still get notifications at this point through filters and auto forwards to my personal account. But something more native would be a lot better. Thanks again.
No further information on this thread?
I'm in the same situation with my company making the switch to google apps. They are enforcing encryption and non root'd phone. I have found that I can use IMAP to get my email, but my calendar is not found.
I have looked into just circumventing the checks....the only encryption solution i've found is some twrp/titanium back up so that you can at least easily recover systems after u've already been encrypted (not exactly a great solution).
As for the root access, ,the only solution i've found is with rootcloak (im not even sure if either of these solutions would actually work. I'm very much interested in a real solution.
Rootcloack didn't work for me, but that was 8 months ago. Try Touchdown, it's free for 30 days.
Try bluemail.
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Try bluemail.
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No luck for me. I appreciate the recommendation. I thought it was going to work when it went through my job's secure portal for setup but not such luck.
I'm looking for a way to do this as well.
I'm in a very similar situation and looking for the same workaround. Currently I'm able to use Edison Software's "Email" app to log in my corporate email account, but without the ability to receive notifications... which is a step better to endure the horrible mobile UI on gmail's website, but still would be better to have push notifications
Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
B1gC72 said:
Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
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scorpienez said:
Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
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Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
Me too...
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Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My educational institution's unlimited-storage Google account seems like the perfect match for this phone, but draconian MDM is a non-starter. Hopefully someone in the community does find a workaround at some point!
I have the exact same problem. I got a new personal phone which I was hoping I would be able to use Gmail and Google Classroom on for school but the device policy manager deactivates a bunch of my settings when i try it. The accounts just don't work without the policy manager, from the internet or the app. Do you think that if I were to speak to the school about it that they would be able to remove it? or is it impossible from their end due to the privileges they need over the account for security etc?
Thanks for your help,
Boxboy5
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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Samsung pass doesn't work. What do you guys use I just came from iphone and it has a password manager built in. What free ones are available
1password. Works everywhere and on everything.
Bitwarden has a free account offering and their premium is very cheap.
Bitwarden is free, open source and the premium is literally $10 per year if you wanted it but it's not needed, everything is available for free except the encrypted cloud storage.
I use Bitwarden's $10 a year tier so I can use my YubiKeys with it.
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
GastonC said:
How do you get Google pass to be the default over Samsung pass?
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Under passwords and autofill in settings. Then select autofill service.
Bitwarden $10 annual plan. Avoid using LastPass as they have had several security breaches recently.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
evangelionpunk said:
Not true and several reasons why some others are better and why I don't and wouldn't use Google password manager atm. YMMV
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Your choice. Google has never failed me.
Brava27 said:
I don't. Google password manager is free and works flawlessly. Anything else is a waste of time.
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Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
9to5google.com
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Good luck if your Google account ever gets breached. Or if Google one day bans your account like they've been known to do to others for seemingly no reason. I used Google's password manager for years but when this flaw was pointed out to me, I switched to Bitwarden that same day and I haven't looked back.
It's also very easy to breach your Google account and thus all your others if your phone is stolen.
Like iPhone, a stolen Android phone's PIN could be used to change Google account password
A report from The Wall Street Journal last week sounded the alarm on an obvious, but frightening issue on iPhone...
9to5google.com
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These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
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Your choice. Google has never failed me.
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Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
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Google also thanks you for all your data. But in all seriousness don't keep all your eggs in one basket. Using 1 service or company for everything (Like Google does) is a terrible security practice. I'm not saying don't use Google, I'm saying don't use it for everything PLUS (tinfoil hat time) the way things are going with less and less privacy, I expect Google to start using passwords saved in its services in an attempt to provide more services to users but in doing so they have access to everything about you, bank info, cellular carrier login, other email logins, everything and frankly that would frighten me. This is why I self host on bitwarden, everything is in my hard drive AND encrypted on backblaze.
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I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
Does Google password manager fill in apps?
I second avoiding LastPass. In addition to the semi-annual breaches, their pricing is ridiculous. $50/year to store 100kB of data in the cloud? There has been zero evolution to their app over the last 5 years, so it is not like they have heavy RnD costs.
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I definitely agree. I might just be really lazy and don't care anymore. I could tie tomorrow and all the passwords I had would be irrelevant lol.
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Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
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Your passwords will matter to family that left after you're gone. I have several people in my life that have a detailed guide on how to access my digital life if/when I'm gone.
Bank info, logins, email stuff, just to make thier lives easier getting things of mine closed etc.
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Yeah that's true. My good friend just passed at 37. His poor wife couldn't access his iPhone and it made things very difficult to process things and get photos etc.... I will do this process for my wife.
Brava27 said:
These are all valid points but chances of happening are very slim.
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Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
EtherealRemnant said:
Is it worth the risk for that slim chance? If someone gets ahold of your online identity, they can ruin every part of your life in a matter of minutes, all while you're totally locked out from being able to stop them. My Bitwarden isn't even tied to my Gmail address for the login and I keep my 2FA in Authy separately, with Authy set to not allow multi-device. It would be pretty difficult for anyone to breach me unless they put in a lot of work that my meager net worth wouldn't be worth doing.
Besides, Bitwarden is actually more convenient than Google's password manager in a lot of areas. When enabling the accessibility options, I've noticed that the password popup shows in places that Google's never did which means less having to manually copy and paste.
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I'll look into bitwarden. Thanks
KeePass Offline; only caveat is that you have to back it up manually (so each time I update it, I copy it to other devices in case the phone dies or is erased or stolen; my password is super long but I only have to remember one password).