Just wondered, is there anyone using one of those 3A chargers to charge their device?
Since Z2 supports upto 3A charging.
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Just wondered, is there anyone using one of those 3A chargers to charge their device?
Since Z2 supports upto 3A charging.
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Can you link the exact model? I would like to charge it faster but idk what would cause to the battery.
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Since Z2 supports upto 3A charging.
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According to...?
Jackos said:
According to...?
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All S801 phones support Quickcharge 2.0, which allows them to charge of currents upto 3A.
Not sure of S800 devices tho.
SkyS1gn said:
Can you link the exact model? I would like to charge it faster but idk what would cause to the battery.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-Po...Adapter-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S4/1885965147.html
KyleSforza said:
All S801 phones support Quickcharge 2.0, which allows them to charge of currents upto 3A.
Not sure of S800 devices tho.
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I think this is manufacturer and kernel specific.
How quickly would they charge with 3A...
I use 1A through magnetic and it's lightening quick
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How quickly would they charge with 3A...
I use 1A through magnetic and it's lightening quick
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I assume a 3300 mAh battery would take 1.1h (3.3/3).
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How quickly would they charge with 3A...
I use 1A through magnetic and it's lightening quick
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3A would be twice as fast as the stock wall charger and if yours is 1A, it'll be thrice as fast.
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3A would be twice as fast as the stock wall charger and if yours is 1A, it'll be thrice as fast.
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hmm... I may look into this as well then....
Faster charging can't ever hurt can it!
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hmm... I may look into this as well then....
Faster charging can't ever hurt can it!
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Li-ion batteries are smart, so are the chargers. If possible check reviews about whichever 3A charger you pick first. Battery won't get damaged because the chip they use will prevent charges heavier than they accept. Its all about if anyone's willing to spend the extra money to perform this experiment and see if the charger will actually make a real world difference in charge time or not.
those things are just huge!
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs...let-PIPO-M9-T7s-T10s-T7-Chuwi/1698888387.html
I'm thinking about buying one... would be nice in some situations to charge with full 3A but i still think it's bad for battery longetivity.
seventieslord said:
I assume a 3300 mAh battery would take 1.1h (3.3/3).
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It's actually not that easy, usually a battery charges to 80% in half the charging time and to 80% out of that 80 in a quarter of the charge time. Guess what I'm trying to say is that charging is not linear, meaning the equation is more complicated
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So anyone got one yet?
I have a few of these http://www.ianker.com/product/71AN7105-W5A
Says it can output 8A per port. Do you know how to see what current the phone is pulling?
Honestly I have my set via the kernel to only charge at 1200ma max
se1000 said:
I have a few of these http://www.ianker.com/product/71AN7105-W5A
Says it can output 8A per port. Do you know how to see what current the phone is pulling?
Honestly I have my set via the kernel to only charge at 1200ma max
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Why'd you limit it? Secondly the only way to find out is noticing the charge time I think.
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Why'd you limit it? Secondly the only way to find out is noticing the charge time I think.
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Faster you charge lithium batteries, you reduce the number of charge cycles. I'd rather charge it slower, especially because you can't change the battery.
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Faster you charge lithium batteries, you reduce the number of charge cycles. I'd rather charge it slower, especially because you can't change the battery.
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True,
I have multiple chargers, in the car I have 1.2A (Sony original car charger), in work I have 2.0A ( Samsung original charger )... but near the bed I have 0.35A (Sony bluetooth headphone charger)... while sleeping I don't need fast charging so I went for the lowest possible power...
please dont try high amperage chargers... might burn the chip!
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Any tip/trick/advice?
2 amp charger. Good quality, short USB cable.
Or do like me and carry extra batteries. 20 sec full charge
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Airplane mode or turn it off completely and charge from there. It its a huge battery that takes time. Could also try to use a higher mAh charger. I use a 2.1 mA charger and while using Bluetooth stereo and streaming music I charge 1% a minute
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2 amp charger. Good quality, short USB cable.
Or do like me and carry extra batteries. 20 sec full charge
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Yep, the second battery makes me not worry about this power eater.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ETC-CPK1E1GSTA-Battery-Charger-SGH-I717/dp/B0076Z3FSQ/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
Stand is a bit useless with this massive Commuter case, but still handy to carry.
A CHARGE ONLY cable is necessary to get the full 960mA the phone will accept.
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My nexus 7 charger is about twice as fast
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My nexus 7 charger is about twice as fast
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+1 for the Nexus 7 charger. It charges my note amazingly fast...it really does seem to do it 1.5-2x quicker.
The stock one does this too. Well let me test it now. @6% and leavingphone on not using. 5 % atvplug in
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Sorry meant itcchages in 2 hours. Just got it plugged in at 6:18.
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Edit: took 3 hours to charge from 5%. So was wrong on that. Usually don't let it get to 5% and use the wall charger as i just put another battery in. Must have been remembering charging from a higher percent (15-20%).
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I, like others, carry extra batteries around.
+1 for extra batteries. check out this extra battery LINK.
try avoiding fast charge, it might not be a good idea.
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+1 for extra batteries. check out this extra battery LINK.
try avoiding fast charge, it might not be a good idea.
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You will be sruprised if you use a current monitor. I only have used "Current Widget". You will be surprised how many chargers and cables charge below 1/2 amp while others charge at almost an amp. You can test all of your chargers and cables this way. For example I have a wall charger with a long cable, with what looks like very small wires, suggesting a low charge, but it actually charges at 1000 ma, much better than some really short cables i have. Also apparently if the data signal is shorted in the cable or in the charger it will tell the phone to charge near an amp.
I also have a charger in my car that has a usb connection that says 1a and 2.1a. The 1 amp charges at almost 1 amp while the 2.1a charges at a 1/2 amp. If you dont use the amp app to see this you would never know and be charging your phone at the slower rate
Just for clarification 1a(amp) = 1000 ma(milliamp), 1/2a = 500 ma
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You will be sruprised if you use a current monitor. I only have used "Current Widget". You will be surprised how many chargers and cables charge below 1/2 amp while others charge at almost an amp. You can test all of your chargers and cables this way. For example I have a wall charger with a long cable, with what looks like very small wires, suggesting a low charge, but it actually charges at 1000 ma, much better than some really short cables i have. Also apparently if the data signal is shorted in the cable or in the charger it will tell the phone to charge near an amp.
I also have a charger in my car that has a usb connection that says 1a and 2.1a. The 1 amp charges at almost 1 amp while the 2.1a charges at a 1/2 amp. If you dont use the amp app to see this you would never know and be charging your phone at the slower rate
Just for clarification 1a(amp) = 1000 ma(milliamp), 1/2a = 500 ma
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What formula did you use to dial In current widget?
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What formula did you use to dial In current widget?
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I didnt use a formula. I downloaded the widget from the play store "current widget". I dont think there is anything we do. The only little bug that i know of with it, is it displays for example 9993 ma, when it reall is 999ma. There is no way it could be 10 amps. The numbers might not be right but they appear to relative to different chargers, cables length etc
I've been hearing a lot about these 2 amp chargers charging devices really really fast. I heard them talking about it on the podcast also but I was wondering if they were safe to use with this device? If so I'm gonna purchase a few. I don't want to damage my new battery so that's why I'm posting this. Thanks.
jacqueline robert said:
I've been hearing a lot about these 2 amp chargers charging devices really really fast. I heard them talking about it on the podcast also but I was wondering if they were safe to use with this device? If so I'm gonna purchase a few. I don't want to damage my new battery so that's why I'm posting this. Thanks.
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I charge my N3 with the original charger (2A/5v) and bought a 2 meter usb cable, its 100% fullly charged in about 1-1,5 hrs i guess.
I have A 4Ah charger but with 4 ports can go as high as 2amps on a single port.
Usually it charges at 1amp.
Intelligent charger so ramps down charge when needed
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I charge my N3 with the original charger (2A/5v) and bought a 2 meter usb cable, its 100% fullly charged in about 1-1,5 hrs i guess.
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Thanks Bro.....
I'm charging my note 3 using this charger which have 2 ports, one 2.0A and the other 1.0A. From 0 to 100% in about 2-3 hours.
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I'm charging my note 3 using this charger which have 2 ports, one 2.0A and the other 1.0A. From 0 to 100% in about 2-3 hours.
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It looks pretty good!!!!!! but I charge my Note3 with the original charger (2A/5v). Thanks for your post.
The original stock charger 5.3V 2.0A is the fastest, it was made for the note 3, even a 5V 2.0A will be slightly slower.
Do also note that the cable plays an important part in the charging time especially in my case where I'm using a third party cable and charger.
Using the following app, it can show how much current it's currently charging. Here mine, post yours if higher then mine. Can someone post the screenshot using the original samsung usb cable and charger as a reference too?
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Can someone post the screenshot using the original samsung usb cable and charger as a reference too?
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Just got my Note 3. It charges at 1800mAh on the stock charger (see pic).
It's weird though, because my Galaxy S4 charges at 1900mAh on its stock charger. I assumed that with USB 3.0, the Note 3 would somehow charge at a faster rate.
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Just got my Note 3. It charges at 1800mAh on the stock charger (see pic).
It's weird though, because my Galaxy S4 charges at 1900mAh on its stock charger. I assumed that with USB 3.0, the Note 3 would somehow charge at a faster rate.
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Thanks for the info. I tried charging with a third party USB3.0 cable and a third party charger and it did reaches to 1800mAh.
Using USB3.0 and USB2.0 cable does make a-bit of difference.
The upcoming Oppo Find 7 have this 4.5A charger that provide a technology call VOOC charging.
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Just got my Note 3. It charges at 1800mAh on the stock charger (see pic).
It's weird though, because my Galaxy S4 charges at 1900mAh on its stock charger. I assumed that with USB 3.0, the Note 3 would somehow charge at a faster rate.
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USB 3.0 makes a difference only to data transfer and not charging the battery when compared to USB 2.
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USB 3.0 makes a difference only to data transfer and not charging the battery when compared to USB 2.
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You are right. USB 3.0, the latest version of USB (Universal Serial Bus), provides better speed and more efficient power management than USB 2.0. USB 3.0 is backward compatible with USB 2.0 devices; however, data transfer speeds are limited to USB 2.0 levels when these devices inter-operate.
I'm looking into AC charging adapters and want to buy the one that will charge the phone the fastest. I've found a 20 watt, 5 volt, 4 amp one. Is anything more even powerful even useful?
TIA
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I'm looking into AC charging adapters and want to buy the one that will charge the phone the fastest.
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The PHONE asks for the power from the charger.
If the phone doesnt ask for more than 2amps, for instance, it doesnt matter if youve got a 100amp charger, it wont give it any more than 2amps.
panyan answers ur question.
However you can reduce the charge time by looking into buying a quick charger 2.0 as the S800 supports this. I repeat: version 2.0! 1.0 does not work with S800.
Details here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/800
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qualcomm-Ce...682?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ec14a922
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qualcomm-Ce...187?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d333ddd6b
will work with the phone. I don't have any quick charger so I don't know how much faster such charger act compared to a normal dc adapter.
The main advantage of buying a charger that has more amps output is that the unit will not heat up as much as compared to a 700mAh-1.5A charger. Because it has more performance to give than a smaller charger which is always going at full throttle.
But as panyan said. Your phone won't use more amps even if u buy one that can output like 20 amps..
And as many here has noticed. In the lollipop roms charging the phone is now ridiculous slow. Instead of 2 hours as we saw in KK roms it now takes like 4-6 hours.
In kitkat I topped 1,5A but now I get like 400mA-650mA. Dunno why they changed this in lollipop..
The disadvantage is just a miniscule thing to not even care about.
A charger with higher amps output can have a higher idle current then a smaller charger.
Instead of using something like 0,1W per hour a larger charger might use 0,15W per hour.
There's no linear formula for how it works but it can happen.. you might care about care about this if you are a controlfreak with the elecric bill.
This only applies if you leave your charger in the socket all the time like I do. Some people unplug it some just leave it in ready to charge the phone next time.
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However you can reduce the charge time by looking into buying a quick charger 2.0 as the S800 supports this. I repeat: version 2.0! 1.0 does not work with S800.
Details here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/800
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We have had a discussion about this on the forum before and i dont think the ZU is supported:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0&manufacturer=Sony
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We have had a discussion about this on the forum before and i dont think the ZU is supported:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0&manufacturer=Sony
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hmm strange... I don't really have much say about this. I have never tried it.
Did anyone around here on the forum tried buying a quickcharger and try?
How would you even know it's working? Is there any verbose output in the catlog or dmesg?
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Did anyone around here on the forum tried buying a quickcharger and try?
How would you even know it's working? Is there any verbose output in the catlog or dmesg?
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No idea unfortunately, i dont have a quick charge 2.0 charger
I bought a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger and it doesn't work on my c6833.
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I bought a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger and it doesn't work on my c6833.
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Thank you! Finally someone bought one!
Now we have the answer. Quick charge does not work.
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I saw something about that quickcharge has the same connector BUT it uses 7 pins instead of 5 as a regular micro usb cable.
And looking into a microscope I can see that the Z ultra micro usb port has 5, five pins.
So the missing part might actually be an hardware issue here?
Värt att notera är att Micro-Flip inte har stöd för QuickCharge eftersom kontaken endast har fem stycken pinnar framför sju stycken, vilket krävs för turboladdning
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It is worth noting that the Micro-Flip does not support QuickCharge because it only has five pins on the plug instead of seven, which is required for turbo-charging
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Source: http://www.swedroid.se/micflip-och-...en-vandbar-microusb-kontakt-via-crowdfunding/
But I can't find any good sources for this.
I took my time to look at a few close up on the nexus 6 usb port. It also uses 5, five pins
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But on LG G3 and G4 its a whole other story. Many pins here.
LG G3
LG G4
Same on Samsung Galaxy Note 4 flex SM-N915F. Many pins.
I can't find any good source that tells exacly what Quick charge is about.
Hi
Pls tell How to use Ampere apk?
I recently installed Ampere apk. I tried but most of the 1-2 amp charger at home, my 2 amp chargers are showing reading of 1800+ but after a few minutes they come below 700 or so.
Am I doing something wrong or Pls tell how to use this apk properly ?
regards
What version of android are you using?
Hi,
What all Ampere do is to measure charging current. With some adjustments, you could also measure discharging current...
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I am using version 2.03
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I am using version 2.03
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He means your Android version, not Ampere version that you installed.
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What version of android are you using?
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krasCGQ said:
Hi,
What all Ampere do is to measure charging current. With some adjustments, you could also measure discharging current...
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He means your Android version, not Ampere version that you installed.
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I am using CM13 on my Moto E condor.
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I am using CM13 on my Moto E condor.
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As quoted in the OP of the app thread:
"Background info:?*The app measures the battery charging/discharging current. If your phone is not connected to a charger, you see the discharging current which is negative. Now, if you connect a charger then the current what the charger gives will be used to supply your phone and the remaining power will be charged into the battery.
If your phone consumes 300 mA without a charger connected, then a 500 mA charger will charge your battery maximum with 200 mA current."
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-ampere-charging-meter-t3012890
With that in mind, your charger probably have an initial output of 1800+ mA but since you're charging your phone with the power on (or most probably using it), the charging current drops to 700+ mA because the charger must also sustain the power that the device is using.
Another probable reason is your charging cable. Do you try using other usb cables? Ampere is developed for us to detemine the best charger+cable combos for our device.
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As quoted in the OP of the app thread:
Another probable reason is your charging cable. Do you try using other usb cables? Ampere is developed for us to detemine the best charger+cable combos for our device.
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Does that mean charging will be more effective when charged by 2 Amp non-usb charger?
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Does that mean charging will be more effective when charged by 2 Amp non-usb charger?
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What do you mean by non-USB charger?
You just have to try other USB cables and look for the one that gives the highest charging current to your device.
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What do you mean by non-USB charger?
You just have to try other USB cables and look for the one that gives the highest charging current to your device.
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I am talking about the charger with normal wiring and which is not a usb charger like one given below...
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I am talking about the charger with normal wiring and which is not a usb charger like one given below...
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Maybe. The best way is that you try.
Hi Guys
Just purchased a Xiaomi Mi 9 along with a razer charger QC 4.0 charger and was wondering if the phone gives any indication that you are charging at QC 4.0 speeds.
Download "Ampere" to see at what rate your phone charges.
Thanks just downloaded the application.
Any particular stats within the app to look out for
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Thanks just downloaded the application.
Any particular stats within the app to look out for
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Just the charging speed, QC4+ should be around 4A, if I'm not mistaken? Haven't checked, but I think that's about what you should get. My Mi 9 charges at 3.3A with the stock adapter.
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I bought the Belkin QC4+ charger and it seems to charge the same at the stock Chinese model (8/128) adapter.
Mid 4000s mAh @4.4v
Take it for what you will. I bet anything is better than the Global brick I guess.
I know it's working because my phone charges absurdly fast.
Look for rapid charging on lock screen
Or charge turbo on charge animation
I am using the Hama QC4+ charger, no Charge Turbo and no Charge Quick/Fast displayed.
Wonderful charger
It does charge kinda quick, and the text shows Charging Fast, but that's it. Disappointed.
Could always use one of these, they're fairly cheap and quite usefull for checking port/usb output
or you simply look at the GSI lockscreen which integrates usb meter
shows volts, ampers, temperature, battery% and speed status
GSI
Gourmandises said:
I bought the Belkin QC4+ charger and it seems to charge the same at the stock Chinese model (8/128) adapter.
Mid 4000s mAh @4.4v
Take it for what you will. I bet anything is better than the Global brick I guess.
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The charger that comes with the Chinese model should be a qc4+ one.
Gourmandises said:
I bought the Belkin QC4+ charger and it seems to charge the same at the stock Chinese model (8/128) adapter.
Mid 4000s mAh @4.4v
Take it for what you will. I bet anything is better than the Global brick I guess.
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This was not my experience at all. I bought that belkin 4.0+ and it averaged at 2200... I don't think the phone does Charge Turbo or even Fast on 4.0 / 4.0 + because it isn't really a QC 4 rated phone. Offical Xiaomi chargers that do 27 w are running at QC 3.0 (look closely at the brick) they do however have an extra mode which makes the QC 3.0 charge TURBO... here is the confusion I beleive after buying a Hama 4.0+ and this Belkin 4.0+ you said works but doesn't charge Turbo.
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I got this app. But it gives me a wrong information. I checked via real usb voltmeter. Recording the app charger itself is charging less than 2000 mah. But I connected this charger to wireless charger and I gave almost 4000. Who is know please explain me, how can I get more from wireless charger than charger itself?
By the way charger I bought from AliExpress, original Xiaomi 27w charger
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Gokh said:
Download "Ampere" to see at what rate your phone charges.
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I got this app. But it gives me a wrong information. I checked via real usb voltmeter. Recording the app charger itself is charging less than 2000 mah. But I connected this charger to wireless charger and I gave almost 4000. Who is know please explain me, how can I get more from wireless charger than charger itself?
By the way charger I bought from AliExpress, original Xiaomi 27w charger
I guess the speed over 4500mA+?
JoKeRLeE said:
I guess the speed over 4500mA+?
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Can you send me photo of charger which you're using
Ataemonus said:
I am using the Hama QC4+ charger, no Charge Turbo and no Charge Quick/Fast displayed.
Wonderful charger
It does charge kinda quick, and the text shows Charging Fast, but that's it. Disappointed.
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I might be late but i got exactly that chrager and its somehow not turbocharging...
Told you. In the meantime, my Hama charger does not even work, it charges intermittently, 1s on 1s off.