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Hi, just got my new Hero and wanted to purchase the cheapest and best micro SD card for it..
I read somewhere that the 'Class 6' cards were the way to go..!!
Can someone advise me if this one will work in my Hero before I click buy.!!
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=104986
If not any suggestions..???
Thanks
Wish I'd seen this sooner! I got ripped off on eBay for an inferior product.
Go for it!
Do you have one of the 'Transcend' then?? I've not seen them before..!! I had assumed it was the same but thought i'd check.!!!
Thanks for your help.. What do you think of the Hero BTW??
The 2GB card that my Hero came with is made by Transcend. And with the Album app its way faster than the SanDisk 8GB Class 4 card I was going to use until I realised it was so slow in comparison.
Some SD card tests in the Hero would be great if someone has a few to try out
bazz71 said:
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=104986
Thanks
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This is the exact same one I got from 7dayshop.com. It works fine. I have taken out the 2GB card and put it away.
bazz71 said:
Do you have one of the 'Transcend' then?? I've not seen them before..!! I had assumed it was the same but thought i'd check.!!!
Thanks for your help.. What do you think of the Hero BTW??
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No - the eBay seller sent me un unbranded un classified (Class 2?) card when their ad clearly stated class 6.
As for the Hero - it's awesome!
Edit: I used a utility to test the speed of the card I was sent and it performs at around 8MB per sec - above the class 6 spec. I tested the card that came with the Hero and it came out at just over 1MB per sec - below even class 2. Guess which card I'm using now?
Cheers
Just ordered one of these because of this thread
long live xda-crew!
Me too!! cheers guys
Ordered..... thanks for that find.
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TheBrit said:
I used a utility to test the speed of the card I was sent and it performs at around 8MB per sec - above the class 6 spec. I tested the card that came with the Hero and it came out at just over 1MB per sec - below even class 2. Guess which card I'm using now?
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What utility did you use ?
I have a class 4 card that I wanted to use and its slower in Album than the stock 2GB card the Hero came with.
joemax said:
What utility did you use ?
I have a class 4 card that I wanted to use and its slower in Album than the stock 2GB card the Hero came with.
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It's called Drive Speed Checker.
Is that an Android app or PC app ? Can't find it on the Market.
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Is that an Android app or PC app ? Can't find it on the Market.
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It's a PC App. You get it here.
Grrr, literally just bought a lexar class 4 from my memory for slightly more money, wish I had checked this.
Do all apps have to be reinstalled when insert a new card or can I just simply copy the contents of old memory card to new one?
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stripey_tiger said:
Grrr, literally just bought a lexar class 4 from my memory for slightly more money, wish I had checked this.
Do all apps have to be reinstalled when insert a new card or can I just simply copy the contents of old memory card to new one?
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I copied one card to the other using my PC. Had to restore some album art using Album Art Grabber but that was it.
Great stuff, thanks - gonna order one of these this week
With SD Cards in the Hero using A2SD, what is more important - the read speed or the write speed?
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With SD Cards in the Hero using A2SD, what is more important - the read speed or the write speed?
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depends what you're doing, doesn't it? if you're gonna be writing lots of data to the card, then obviously the write speed (i'm thinking, for example, if you're taking lots of pictures with the camera, installing lots of applications maybe, etc etc). if you're just interested in reading from the card - e.g. listening to your music collection - then you'd want that to be pretty fast. my guess is that the bottleneck, in general, is going to be the write speed on any card - but i don't know much about these cards, still learning ;-)
Excellent find thanks
Got one on order so all looking good for my newly rooted G2
Have fun Devchef1
joemax said:
The 2GB card that my Hero came with is made by Transcend. And with the Album app its way faster than the SanDisk 8GB Class 4 card I was going to use until I realised it was so slow in comparison.
Some SD card tests in the Hero would be great if someone has a few to try out
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The speed in album app is more related to if your thumbnails are created correctly on your sdcard. There is an increasing number of persons that realizing that they have this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558168
Hello All: who has tried SD cards >32GB on the SGH-I777? What's your impression? Do they work, which ones, and how well? There are threads on 64GB SDs working on other devices, but nothing recent on the GS2 (I777). So what's the deal?
My 32 gb working fine. I got it fr ebay came fr Honkong no name sd
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I saw a YT vid of one being used in a GSII a few months back. It wasn't available to the public yet but it showed that the phone recognized the card and read all 64gigs. From what I hear, there's a 64gig card available now and a few members have them but I haven't heard how well they work.
Running a Samsung Plus 64gb class 10..
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axis01 said:
I saw a YT vid of one being used in a GSII a few months back. It wasn't available to the public yet but it showed that the phone recognized the card and read all 64gigs. From what I hear, there's a 64gig card available now and a few members have them but I haven't heard how well they work.
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Thanks! Yes, I saw that too but it's several months old now and I have not seen anything new. There is now a class 10 from Transcend - wonder if anybody tried it. I really like to hear from people using the 64GB cards (or higher).
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Running a Samsung Plus 64gb class 10..
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And? What's your take? BTW, where did you get that card from?
Works great. Fast. Frys electronics...
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Sd cards > 32GB is called SDXC cards. the smallest is 64GB. They typically come pre-formated with exFat which our phone doesn't support. You will have to use PC to re-format it into FAT32 using large cluster size before you can use it on the phone (the hardware of the phone supports SDXC cards
As I understand it, the phone supports SDXC.
Many 64GB SDXC cards are comming formatted as regular FAT which will work in our phone.
The SDXC standard officially calls out an exFAT filesystem - exFAT will NOT work.
What's with the class on the card never really noticed it what's it mean oh sorry for the thead hijacked...
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Class rates the write performance of a card (in MB/sec). So a class 10 card has a write performance of at least 10MB/s (write speed varies depending on the size of data). Typically, cards read much faster than write (on average 2x faster).
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Class rates the write performance of a card (in MB/sec). So a class 10 card has a write performance of at least 10MB/s (write speed varies depending on the size of data). Typically, cards read much faster than write (on average 2x faster).
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Thanks. I read somewhere in another forum that someone was using a 64GB class 10 card formatted as FAT32 and got ~5MB/sec, suggesting that the format slows the card. My current 32GB micro SD gives me also ~5MB/sec (guessing its a class 4/5 without pulling it out), so a 64GB at 5MB/sec would be ok. I will get me one and report back. Just not sure yet which one. Sandisk? Samsung (haven't seen that one online yet).
Look what I just found:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sandisk-unveils-worlds-fastest-128gb-sdxc-card-and-new-inand/
Class performance is only measured on a specific test... and can sometimes not be indicative of real-world results.
Sometimes people find that a Class 6 card does better overall than a Class 10, just due to being "better" in real world aspects other than what were tested for the class rating.
The class rating MIGHT only be raw write performance - the format of a card can have a major effect on performance depending on the underlying flash memory. For example, I recall a bunch of 4GB CF cards that got a HORRIFIC performance reputation at work - after further investigation, it turned out the only problem was that Windows defaulted to FAT32 on those cards, but FAT16 on smaller ones. The 4GB card formatted FAT16 was wicked fast.
My current class 2 16GB microSD card can give me 6MB/s write speed when I copy a small to medium sized file over. However, when I copy muiple or much larger files, the speed will eventually drop to 2MB/s. Most cards, especially cheaper ones, use a small cache to speed up the write performance and hide the slower flash memory. When you writes more than the cache can hold, the true performance of the card shows up. That's why a brand named card costs much more than no-name brands of the same class rating.
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My current class 2 16GB microSD card can give me 6MB/s write speed when I copy a small to medium sized file over. However, when I copy muiple or much larger files, the speed will eventually drop to 2MB/s. Most cards, especially cheaper ones, use a small cache to speed up the write performance and hide the slower flash memory. When you writes more than the cache can hold, the true performance of the card shows up. That's why a brand named card costs much more than no-name brands of the same class rating.
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Actually, the cache is the phone's RAM, not the card.
I love my 64gb card. $100 shipped from bestbuy. I want to buy one for my tablet.
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Actually, the cache is the phone's RAM, not the card.
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No, I'm testing it on my PC with 8GB of RAM directly. Don't trust phones for that task
My understanding is that most SD cards has a small block of flash cells that's much faster than rest of the cells. Small data chunks get write into those fast flash cells first before they write into the much slower mass storage cells. So, if you copy a large file into the SD card, you will see the write performance slowly drop as the cache fills up.
Aren't there 64GB cards that are SDHC?
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Look what I just found:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sandisk-unveils-worlds-fastest-128gb-sdxc-card-and-new-inand/
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without looking, if that's the same article I read, it isn't micro size. the 64 is, though.
Firepac said:
Aren't there 64GB cards that are SDHC?
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Here are how it works:
SD: up to 2GB --> FAT16 formatted
SDHC: from 4GB up to 32GB ---> FAT32 formatted
SDXC: from 64GB to 2TB ---> exFAT formatted (although some come with FAT32 formatted for compatibility reasons).
Which are the advantages of getting the 32Gb versions to the 16Gb?
I know that it has more memory: but isn't it enough to add to the 16Gb version a powerful microSD with 64Gb for example?
At the end of the day: is it worth it to pay more for the 32GB?
Many apps can't be installed to the external SD. So if you plan on installing a lot of apps and don't mind the wait, I'd say go for the 32 gb. There's no such thing as too much storage space ;-)
Just get the 16gb and put all your media files on a memory card if 16gb is enough for all your Apps.
Internal memory is always faster then external memory. If you are not bothered about in price difference, get the 32gb version.
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Hi, so you can choose to save Videos and Photos taken with camera to External SD instead of Internal?
And use the Internal SD ONLY for the data downloaded by games and app (Android and Data folders), ClockworkMod Recovery and Titanium Backup?
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Hi, so you can choose to save Videos and Photos taken with camera to External SD instead of Internal?
And use the Internal SD ONLY for the data downloaded by games and app (Android and Data folders), ClockworkMod Recovery and Titanium Backup?
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Yes, you can.
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I find the 32gb useless for a device that lets u use memory cards.
Isn't the internal ones better quality and high speed rating though? (my S2's internal writes at over 6MB/s and reads at 50) Looking at the SDcards I can get here there aren't many in store and most are class 6 and under can't find any class 10's that aren't cheap pos or good but really expensive and unnecessary. So I'm pretty much looking at needing to buy online you add shipping to that and I might as well just get the 32GB model for ease and less hassle. It also looks like Bell Canada will have the 32GB models on launch day as well so I think I will just get that when I go to get my S3.
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dbzgod said:
Isn't the internal ones better quality and high speed rating though? (my S2's internal writes at over 6MB/s and reads at 50) Looking at the SDcards I can get here there aren't many in store and most are class 6 and under can't find any class 10's that aren't cheap pos or good but really expensive and unnecessary. So I'm pretty much looking at needing to buy online you add shipping to that and I might as well just get the 32GB model for ease and less hassle. It also looks like Bell Canada will have the 32GB models on launch day as well so I think I will just get that when I go to get my S3.
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Don't only look at class speeds.
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Mmmm.. Maybe i'll go with the internal 16GB + 32/64GB class 10 memory!
Whats is the best to use in this device?
Size :
Class :
There's Extreme Pro SD Card, can i use that on this device?
Thanks
Whats is the best to use in this device?
Size : 32gb
Class : I don't think it is really limited to the top end stuff like:: uhs 1
Should work fine or at whatever the maximum internal limits of the fascinate are
I have one of those for my camera, I could verify at some point
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Thanks for the reply
i want to buy extreme pro sd card. 95MB/s i'm afraid this device can't handle it. but i think it's worth to try
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Thanks for the reply
i want to buy extreme pro sd card. 95MB/s i'm afraid this device can't handle it. but i think it's worth to try
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I don't think it will run the speeds the card is capable of but I believe it will do better than your normal class 10
Liken it to buying a Ferrari for use on our usa roads,,, cool and fun to own and certainly better than most all other sports cars,,, but you could do SO much more on better roads!!! if you can find a steal on it,, go for it!!
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Yeah just keep in mind the speed ratings refer to the transfer speed, not the internal memory speed which is going to be mostly the same for any type of card from how I understand it
Ok I was looking through the threads looking for exactly this...I'm getting a SanDisk ultra 32gb sdhc class 10 uhs 1 card for my s3 and want to get a second one for my son's fascinate...so this will work on the fascinate then, just likely not at full speed? Just want to be double sure before I buy them...the class 4 16gb seems to run extremely slow in the fascinate and apps randomly appear and dissapear randomly
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Yes,,, you'll be fine. Way better than a class 4 :thumbup:
And don't forget to tweak the:: buffer size/read ahead speed
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Hi !
I have just install my new a1 sdcard in my tab s3, but as I can see I not still be able to install more apps than with my previous non a1 sdcard ! So all is the same but I suppose that the sd is just faster....
This is happening also in my s7 edge.
A1 sdcard was not suppose to let us install any app directly into the sd (not even just move some of them) ?
Is there anything I am missing? Any special format or whatever?
Many thanks !
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If you want to install apps on the SD Card (are you asking this question) then you may want to try the Storage Enabler patch. If this isn't what you're after then I do not know what you're saying (sorry).
I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
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I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
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The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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Istarth said:
The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
To install apps directly to an sd-card, you need to enable Adoptable Storage via this patch
volcolm said:
Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
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I don´t know If u had read about these cards before... I have SanDisk Extreme 128GB Class 10, U3, V30, A1, No matter how expensive is the card but if the card is not an A1 card the aleatory access is not good enough...
A1 means this cards are much much faster for aleatory access / read... and after some bench I have to say that difference is so big... So the card is working well and very fast both sequential and aleatory...
Anyway I thought This kind of cards could be considered by Android in a special way... and let us to install any app in it with no restrictions and without any patch or root mod... but as I can see.... no luck.... again after some installed apps.... memory problems are here again... no matter if you have 200 free GB in your SD.... so bad....
Many thanks !