hello to all
been a while this might sound like a dumb question but after doing a bit of reading. it states i can root my s5 on tmobile and not trip the knox.???
and the only way to trip the knox is by installing a different rom or kernel.??? i just finance this phone tru tmobile and don't want to trip the knox in case in 6months i want to do the jump to a different phone if this one don't work out.and if that is the case which root program do i use. thanks
1iwilly said:
hello to all
been a while this might sound like a dumb question but after doing a bit of reading. it states i can root my s5 on tmobile and not trip the knox.???
and the only way to trip the knox is by installing a different rom or kernel.??? i just finance this phone tru tmobile and don't want to trip the knox in case in 6months i want to do the jump to a different phone if this one don't work out.and if that is the case which root program do i use. thanks
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You WILL trip knox when you root. There is no way around it at this time.
ok thanks
aooga said:
You WILL trip knox when you root. There is no way around it at this time.
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Hey all,
In case you didnt know, Best Buy has a Samsung specific counter, with a factory trained rep there. I did this firmware update and it locked up my phone big time. I took there, he had the software to over ride everything and put it back to factory original.....Something to keep in mind as we try new things out...
downhillvinnie said:
Hey all,
In case you didnt know, Best Buy has a Samsung specific counter, with a factory trained rep there. I did this firmware update and it locked up my phone big time. I took there, he had the software to over ride everything and put it back to factory original.....Something to keep in mind as we try new things out...
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good to know. thanks. :good:
downhillvinnie said:
Hey all,
In case you didnt know, Best Buy has a Samsung specific counter, with a factory trained rep there. I did this firmware update and it locked up my phone big time. I took there, he had the software to over ride everything and put it back to factory original.....Something to keep in mind as we try new things out...
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We're these services free?
If only they could preform a JTAG for free haha
Harleydroid said:
We're these services free?
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Yes
Might be a real long shot but by chance does anyone know (or think) they would know anything about the KNOX application?
exaltedgod said:
Might be a real long shot but by chance does anyone know (or think) they would know anything about the KNOX application?
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doubtful. wonder if they can warranty developer editions lol
I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
Yes, unfortunatelly rooting your s6/s6 edge may disable the phone’s ability to use samsung pay, so be carefull.
Chainfire said:
Before actually rooting though, consider that KNOX will likely be tripped, and there's a good chance untripped KNOX will be required for phone based payments.
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Webster259 said:
I just received my S6E and I know I read earlier that CF noted that rooting may trip KNOX and disable the mobile payment system. Has anyone been able to verify whether or not this is actually the case? I'd love to root my phone, if for no other reason but to get Titanium up and running but I really would like to keep the mobile payment system intact. Thanks in advance.
Update: I have trouble reading sometimes and didn't realize/remember that Samsung Pay won't be available until later this summer. However, if anyone does come across any additional information related to this, I would be happy to hear about it.
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I'm curious to know this too. I ALWAYS root my Android phones especially for Adblocker and even more importantly Greenify. I'm worried tripping the Knox sensor will make it so I can't use Samsung Pay and I'd really like to use that, especially since it even works with magnetic readers! I'm worried that since SP won't launch until the Summer that no one will truly know what effect, if any, tripping the Knox sensor will have. I'm going to hold off on rooting for now, as tough as I KNOW that will be LOL.
Yeah sucks but I'm. Holing off too. I mainly root for custom roms and kernel... But do far the phone is managing well so. I can definitely hold off
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Considering that I can't stay without:
Titanium Backup Pro
AdBlock Plus for Android (without having to do stuff manually)
Xposed Framework
Unlocked Tethering
And who know what else!
I will definitely root and who cares if I won't be able to use Samsung Pay!
There are still other payment system coming out or already existing!
I haven't rooted because of Samsung Pay and also because we'll I mainly. Root. For custom recoveries and roms which none are available as the device isn't widely available
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Hello to all, i want to root my device, but it seems impossible. I have firmware version G925FXXU3COI9 ...
I've seen Pingpong root and my firmware version is not supported...
I've seen CF Auto Root and i didn't try, because i don't want to trip Knox for the warranty....
I've seen also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...lkit-skipsoft-android-toolkit-galaxy-t3101195 but it don't speak about tripping Knox (so this method i think will trip it? )
Do you have some idea to work it out ? I'm going mad
I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
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I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
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Samsung Pay?
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Samsung Pay?
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Haven't seen any place to use that so far. Heck, nothing is using it. Not in the Netherlands that is.
Doesn't really matter for me anyway, my bankcard itself has NFC inside so contactless paying is already possible.
Zulake said:
I don't see a reason why you don't want to trip Knox. It's good for nothing, doesn't have anything to do with warranty (as long as your problem comes from something that's not caused by rooting/flashing etc) and is only useless stuff.
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What ? Why you say doesn't have anything to do with warranty ? How you can know if a problem comes or not by a rooting / flashing ? You can't know for ALL the problems...and as long as i know, Knox is always checked when you go to Samsung assistance.
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Samsung Pay?
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Also for this thing . And also for Android pay. But i think you can use it with root . Maybe. I think you cannot use it if you flash a custom rom .
Zulake said:
Haven't seen any place to use that so far. Heck, nothing is using it. Not in the Netherlands that is.
Doesn't really matter for me anyway, my bankcard itself has NFC inside so contactless paying is already possible.
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You can use in every shop with Contactless payment symbol . Every bankcard with Contactless support (almost all the bank of the world right now) has NFC inside, so contactless payment it's possible . Some service use your "real"card number, other services use "virtual card number" , generating a new one for every transaction .
Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
Any major developers coming to the s9?
Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
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Do you really want root with no twrp and 80% battery?
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I'd take it. Currently been on a LGv30 since it's release with no sign of root in sight for it.
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Like how it was achieved with the s8+?
What are everyone's thoughts?
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I think ..... sadly not.... I just cannot get over the fact that it is sooooooooooo harrdddddd to root .. 80% battery is not for me by any means. I will do my best to curb my temptation to get this device but who knows. If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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If google allows an unlocked bootloader, not sure why Samsung won't
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Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
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Of course they deny it and blame Samsung for locking the bootloader, but I think it's T-Mobile who deliberately orders their phones with locked bootloader.
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Yeah it's all of them. Carriers, Qualcomm, and Samsung. Just to collect that 10 or 5 bucks hotspot as a monthly fee. Also so they can re-sell the phone after without having the knox tripped.
They're cheap.
I can't believe I am reading all this techie stuff..
But I cannot stand this S9+ with its unremoveable default apps that just keep popping up ..
I would settle for a solution that let get rid of the FKN Games and Game icon..
I finally got rid of Bixbie… painfully...
I HATE SAMSUNG for these forced apps getting the best real estate..
Hi everyone.
I've pre-ordered an S23 Ultra and have also purchased a 2 year Samsung Care + plan. I've been using a OnePlus 5 from 5+ years now and the last Samsung device I used was Galaxy S2.
Since Samsung's warranty becomes void if the Knox is tripped, my question is, in case there is a screen/ hardware damage to a rooted device, can it be claimed for repair/ replacement under Samsung Care+?
Because in case a rooted device will not be considered under Samsung Care+ plan too, I think I would prefer to cancel the plan. I'm looking for your suggestions on this. I am located in Canada.
P.s. I see the following exception point mentioned in the T&C's of Samsung Care+, "Device malfunction or damage due to improper installation on, or improper equipment modification to the device."
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
peacey8 said:
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
amirage said:
How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Joloxx9 said:
I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
There currently is no way to unlock the bootloader in the US and Canada. Additionally there is no working root exploit for these phones. It should be near impossible to trip Knox in the locked state. So it's nothing to worry about.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the Knox efuse, loading an unauthorized bootloader does.
Apparently paid services have been able to unlock the N10+'s and maybe other Snaps. I'm not that interested so haven't followed this too closely. The remote service could potentially install malware and I refuse to risk bricking a valuable device.
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It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
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Hi what's abd edits?
It's up to the person checking. Some may take it in for warranty even if the knox is tripped but some won't. I've had that experience before.
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Hi what's abd edits?
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Using ADB commands to remove bloatware is probably the most common example.
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on North American variants. Only European. So my point is this question is moot, not that Knox won't be tripped if you unlock bootloader.
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You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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Omg! I've recently shifted to Canada and was not aware about this.
Now I wonder, why did I order this 1900 CA$ device.
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units? I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units?
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Not at this time.
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I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Might as well get used to it as this is the way the industry is going. For example OnePlus 11 allows unlocking the bootloader but there is no longer a free way to fix your device if you brick it since the 9RT came out. This has meant that the 10T and 10 Pro have had basically no development.
Pixels have unlockable bootloader still and plenty of custom ROMs are available but... well... you'll be dealing with a lot of other headaches like a battery that probably won't even make it 24 hours on wifi and much less than that on 5G thanks to an inferior Samsung modem. They also have random hardware problems like I've had my screen start flickering and eventually get green lines twice on my Pixel 7 Pro and there have been many others reporting similar issues and now there are reports of pieces straight up falling off the phone surfacing too and this thing has only been out since October...
Pick your poison I guess.
wow , this is nuts . Any reason why other than make sure they sell their own software?
5-8 years ago we were laughing about Apple, but now android are doing the same thing.
Those phone a solid 8 years phone power wise, and the only way to keep them updated is aftermarket ROM !
OP, Im coming also from a OnePLus 5, and also from canada.
I also paid 1900$.
And I'm starting to regret my choice, I have only few days to return it.
Should I get a Oneplus 11 ???
I have had Android Phones since the OG T-Mobile G1. Back then, I rooted EVERY phone I have had.
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting. I don't get it.
Maybe I am just getting old? LOL!
Talderon said:
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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Thanks!! I get that some apps won't work without root, but it seems now that people want to root more to say they did than have a real reason for it.
I e given up on rooting mainly because of the inherent stability issue with Custom ROMs and the constant flashing.
Again, I just may be getting old. Lol!!!