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As soon as i got this phone I rooted it and flashed xtr rom because it looked reliable and stable. Which it was the rom was beautiful but i got the froyo bug and decided to move on to 2.2. I installed kaos froyo and love it but there are a certain things i miss specifically the htc contact app which allowed me to merge contacts from all my different sources and really minimize doubled up contacts. Is there anyway to get the htc contact app on a 2.2 rom without sense that doesn't involve flashing? Is there an apk or an apk for a similar contact app?
TLDR: Can i install HTC contact app on Kaos Froyo rom?
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As soon as i got this phone I rooted it and flashed xtr rom because it looked reliable and stable. Which it was the rom was beautiful but i got the froyo bug and decided to move on to 2.2. I installed kaos froyo and love it but there are a certain things i miss specifically the htc contact app which allowed me to merge contacts from all my different sources and really minimize doubled up contacts. Is there anyway to get the htc contact app on a 2.2 rom without sense that doesn't involve flashing? Is there an apk or an apk for a similar contact app?
TLDR: Can i install HTC contact app on Kaos Froyo rom?
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Unfortunately, there isn't any way of getting the HTC Dialer (which is what you're looking for) on a non-Sense based ROM. It would have to be ported, and noone has been able to do so. It may be hard or impossible without the original source code.
I have used Dialer One in the past, which is a lot more like the Sense Dialer. I don't know for sure if it has the feature you're looking for, but there's a free version on the Market. Check it out.
Edit: FYI in case you're curious enough to try putting the HTC Dialer on other ROMs anyway, forget it, I've already tried it. It's just not that easy.
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Unfortunately, there isn't any way of getting the HTC Dialer (which is what you're looking for) on a non-Sense based ROM. It would have to be ported, and noone has been able to do so. It may be hard or impossible without the original source code.
I have used Dialer One in the past, which is a lot more like the Sense Dialer. I don't know for sure if it has the feature you're looking for, but there's a free version on the Market. Check it out.
Edit: FYI in case you're curious enough to try putting the HTC Dialer on other ROMs anyway, forget it, I've already tried it. It's just not that easy.
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What about xtr rom? It's a vanilla rom with the htc dialer. It might be sort of hybrid but it uses launcher pro (not sense) and the same dialer. I was kind of upset the htc dialer has so many little features that you take for granted until they are gone.
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What about xtr rom? It's a vanilla rom with the htc dialer. It might be sort of hybrid but it uses launcher pro (not sense) and the same dialer. I was kind of upset the htc dialer has so many little features that you take for granted until they are gone.
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It is still based on the HTC framework, which is why so much of the HTC stuff is still present and works.
I really miss the HTC Alarm/Timer/etc app, too. Sigh...
Just flash xtrSense and switch to Launcher Pro or something.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
It is still based on the HTC framework, which is why so much of the HTC stuff is still present and works.
I really miss the HTC Alarm/Timer/etc app, too. Sigh...
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What rom do you use?
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What rom do you use?
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I'm using Red Glass, Workshed's themed version of his FroShedYo v8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824160
I may switch to his Vanilla, just because it's based off a newer CM build.
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Just flash xtrSense and switch to Launcher Pro or something.
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I think he's hoping to get it or an equivalent on a 2.2-based ROM. As much as I like xtrSENSE and xtrROM, I like CM6.x-based ROMs because of the ease of access to toggle widgets in the notification menu, Froyo-native Apps2SD, and the Froyo-native USB tethering, which has been working much better for me than any other kind or method of tethering recently, and tethering is my only internet ATM.
I don't know if the OP likes the same things out of Froyo ROMs or not, but I would assume he doesn't want to go back to more stock for anything more than the HTC alarm clock and/or contacts.
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I think he's hoping to get it or an equivalent on a 2.2-based ROM. As much as I like xtrSENSE and xtrROM, I like CM6.x-based ROMs because of the ease of access to toggle widgets in the notification menu, Froyo-native Apps2SD, and the Froyo-native USB tethering, which has been working much better for me than any other kind or method of tethering recently, and tethering is my only internet ATM.
I don't know if the OP likes the same things out of Froyo ROMs or not, but I would assume he doesn't want to go back to more stock for anything more than the HTC alarm clock and/or contacts.
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Thank you for the help. Xtr sense with launcher pro is almost equivalently the xtr rom. You hit the nail on the head perfectly as well. I love the stability smoothness and just all around solidness of the xtrroms sense and not. I just feel like i'm missing out when i roll 2.1 there is not much but just a lot of little things above ones mentioned are big. I'm going to rock xtr again for a little then switch to a 2.2 maybe kaos again or possibly what you use and weigh out what i like about both. I would drop both options if we can get a daily use gingerbread though.
Is there a simple way of disabling sense completely for the Flyer?
I've changed to ADW EX but I know the processes are still running and taking up resources in the background.
I'd love to be able to disable sense and reinstall the stock contacts, calendar, etc.
From what I gather, even HC has it baked in :'(
From what I've read elsewhere for other devices this is a near-impossible task, however given that this is the first tablet I've known about I figured it may be worth asking.
Alternatively, is there a ROM without Sense available? The few I've checked out have included it for some bizarre ( ) reason.
Thanks!
Lol I have one out that I'm working on that doesn't have sense. If you didn't want to flash a ROM you could probably freeze all the sense apps using titanium backup (i think)
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I checked out the ROM, looks good and I like what you're trying to accomplish but is there nothing at the moment that's completely Sense free at all?
No, unless a Asop rom comes about
Is this something that is likely to appear? CM or similar?
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I dont have a problem with sense or anything, I just like to have options and I really like the look of stock Android.
I havent found a solution as to why I cant flash Cyanogenmod 9/10 betas yet (keeps aborting installation), so I need to do this without flashing a new ROM.
Im currently running viperROM IC3D Beta 3. Im not sure if its promoted to be stable, but so far it is for me. And its also using Sense 3.6 so it should be the same if I was running the stock ICS OTA update, I assume.
So is there a way to disable/remove sense without installing a new ROM?
A launcher wont do it for me. All that does is change the home screen, not the actual shell of the OS.
Thanks is advance!
Get a new phone, or change your rom.
Since sense is integrated, you need a whole new rom if you dont want it.
The only thing you can disable with sense is the sense launcher.
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Get a new phone, or change your rom.
Since sense is integrated, you need a whole new rom if you dont want it.
The only thing you can disable with sense is the sense launcher.
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I figured that was the case. I just wasnt sure because I know that it was possible on the EVO 4G. But thanks anyway.
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I figured that was the case. I just wasnt sure because I know that it was possible on the EVO 4G. But thanks anyway.
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There are some desensitizing scripts out there that you can find and tailor to your needs, but I would just find a ROM that is already desensitized. Some people swear by the scripts; others have issues getting them to work right.
I'm needing help/looking for recommendations for a new DNA ROM. I usually have the worst luck in choosing ROMs so I thought to ask the community which one(s) that are available at this time that you use and would recommend.
A month or two ago I switched from a 4.2.2 rom to Blackout's "HTC One *STOCK* ROM Port | 4.19.401.8 | 4.4.2 | HTC Sense 5.5" ROM. Although I loved the new features and their work (very much at that, thank you all!).. but with the ROM itself I found the battery life to be pretty bad, especially compared to my previous 4.2.2 ROM and Blackout's also doesn't always connect well to some WiFi hotspots. My old 4.2.2 rom was really great on battery, was fast, stable and connected well to all WiFi connections.
Basically I'm yearning for a newer DNA ROM, maybe KitKat, doesn't have to be though...
My absolute must haves are below:
Very Stable - If it's not stable all the time I'd rather pass for a different ROM. It has to almost never crash with normal usage for it to be a daily for me.
Great Battery Life - A ROM with great battery life. Since the DNA as it is has bad battery life to begin with a battery efficient ROM would be a must.
Fast - I'd like it to be fast in transitions and loading software as best as possible - I'll trade in many cases newer features for speed almost any day.
No Bugs For Common Tasks - WiFi, Bluetooth, Speaker, etc - it all should work as expected and flawlessly.
Nice to haves list, but not necessary, are below:
Latest Android/KitKat - Would be nice to have KitKat, 4.4 but doesn't have to be.
Latest Sense/5.5 - I don't use Sense a whole lot but wouldn't mind the latest.
Improved Camera - again would be nice but not needed.
So basically... any recommendations for a new DNA ROM(s) would be _greatly_ appreciated. I can spend days trying out ROMs with little to show for it and would love to hear your thoughts/recommendations. Even if it's not the latest, if it's a solid, stable fast and super reliable ROM with great battery life please share I'd love to hear it.
Thanks!!
Try ViperDNA. Current version is 3.1.0 (4.4 KK based off the Sense 5.5 from HTC One). It is as stable as it gets for KK, all KK roms have VOIP issues, so if you need that, stick to 4.2.2 which ViperDNA 2.5.2 is based off of (recent DNA OTA).
Why choose Viper for a Rom? It has a boat load of desense options. (AOSP launcher, AOSP lock screen, etc) Viper roms also have some really nice themes also.
Viper ROMs also get pretty decent battery life.
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I suggest you to install this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2626050
It is very stable, fast and it has a great battery life. The viperdna has a lot of theme and much more but it isn't absolutely fast.
TY for ViperDNA Rec
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Try ViperDNA. Current version is 3.1.0 (4.4 KK based off the Sense 5.5 from HTC One). It is as stable as it gets for KK, all KK roms have VOIP issues, so if you need that, stick to 4.2.2 which ViperDNA 2.5.2 is based off of (recent DNA OTA).
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poal98 said:
It is very stable, fast and it has a great battery life. The viperdna has a lot of theme and much more but it isn't absolutely fast.
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Thank you so much for the recs...
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Thank you so much for the recs...
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Uzephi said:
Try ViperDNA. Current version is 3.1.0 (4.4 KK based off the Sense 5.5 from HTC One). It is as stable as it gets for KK, all KK roms have VOIP issues, so if you need that, stick to 4.2.2 which ViperDNA 2.5.2 is based off of (recent DNA OTA).
Why choose Viper for a Rom? It has a boat load of desense options. (AOSP launcher, AOSP lock screen, etc) Viper roms also have some really nice themes also.
Viper ROMs also get pretty decent battery life.
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I agree viper rom is by far the most customizable rom when it comes to sense roms and it is very stable. I'm still running 3.0.1 but 3.1.0 is out. There have been some bugs in that version that are being worked on. So I'm waiting until it's fixed. Rom is as stable as it gets though. Highly recommend it when it comes to sense roms.
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Jaggar345 said:
I agree viper rom is by far the most customizable rom when it comes to sense roms and it is very stable. .
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Jaggar345 said:
...Highly recommend it when it comes to sense roms.
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Again, thank you - definitely flashing ViperDNA ROM now then. Will report back for others interested in how this goes..
Jaggar345 said:
I agree viper rom is by far the most customizable rom when it comes to sense roms and it is very stable. I'm still running 3.0.1 but 3.1.0 is out. There have been some bugs in that version that are being worked on. So I'm waiting until it's fixed. Rom is as stable as it gets though. Highly recommend it when it comes to sense roms.
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Great, thanks for the info. Just to clarify: you're running 3.0.1 which is viperDNA_3.0.0_release_candidate.zip released Feb 15, 2014 () plus the VIPERdna_ota_3.0.0_3.0.1.zip from Feb 24, correct? It's Android 4.4 and it doesn't have the SMS bugs people are dealing with in ViperDNA 3.1.1?
I'm also looking for a stable, no-glitch ROM, preferably 4.4. I think I'll try ViperDNA 3.0.1 based on your recommendation. Thanks! =)
For others reading this thread: I had trouble finding 3.0.1, but eventually found it under "previous releases" in the thread "(3.19.14) Team Venom Presents ViperDNA v3.1.1" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648446 Download link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=2910#downloads
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I'm also looking for a stable, no-glitch ROM, preferably 4.4. I think I'll try ViperDNA 3.0.1 based on your recommendation. Thanks! =)
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I downloaded 3.1.0 and the OTA 3.1.1 zip update. I formatted my phone with TWRP, "adb push"ed the two zip files to my phone. Installed 3.1.0 then after that I installed the 3.1.1 OTA update.
It's really interesting you mentioned the SMS issue... I've noticed that when I send SMS messages it will repeat them on my phone (but I'm told the recipients only get one of them). If this is the SMS issue you're referring to then I can confirm with 3.1.0 w/ 3.1.1 OTA zip that I'm getting that.
The other issue I have is some Google processes will unexpectedly stop running... for example if I'm using Google Search or Google Now sometimes it'll unexpectedly quit and crash.
Thank you for linking and explaining how to get 3.0.1... I think I'll go ahead and flash that instead.
Uzephi said:
Try ViperDNA. Current version is 3.1.0 (4.4 KK based off the Sense 5.5 from HTC One). It is as stable as it gets for KK, all KK roms have VOIP issues, so if you need that, stick to 4.2.2 which ViperDNA 2.5.2 is based off of (recent DNA OTA).
Why choose Viper for a Rom? It has a boat load of desense options. (AOSP launcher, AOSP lock screen, etc) Viper roms also have some really nice themes also.
Viper ROMs also get pretty decent battery life.
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why viper? the interface is very different from sense, is there sense inside viper?
ViperDNA 3.0.1
Bujjet said:
It's really interesting you mentioned the SMS issue... I've noticed that when I send SMS messages it will repeat them on my phone (but I'm told the recipients only get one of them). If this is the SMS issue you're referring to then I can confirm with 3.1.0 w/ 3.1.1 OTA zip that I'm getting that.
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I think so; that sounds like what people were describing in the ViperDNA thread. I haven't tried 3.1.0 or later yet, because of the reports of double SMS. As of yesterday there's a ViperDNA 3.5.0. Although the release notes don't say anything about fixing the double SMS, I'm going to watch the discussion for a few days and see whether it gets brought up or not.
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Thank you for linking and explaining how to get 3.0.1... I think I'll go ahead and flash that instead.
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So I've now been running 3.0.1 for a day or two and I'm mostly very happy with it. The one caveat is a bug with the camera: if you turn the screen off (or the screen times out) while the camera is open, the screen won't turn back on. I saw a posting saying that a workaround is to plug into power before pressing any buttons, but I found a better workaround: switch to the AOSP lock screen (instead of the default Sense lock screen) and the camera bug goes away. I do miss the quick-launch buttons from the Sense lock screen but my phone is responsive enough with this ROM that I'm OK with that for now. To switch lock screens, go into the Viper Tweaks application, then go to Lock Screen section, and there's a toggle to switch to the AOSP lock screen; you then have to reboot the phone for the change to take effect.
ViperDNA 3.5 isbelieve out
An update -
Viper 3.5 has been released - it supposedly fixes the multiple text message bug (one that I was receiving)... And others are reporting a bug with Bluetooth headsets - in that when music/video/media etc work really well but is jumbled when making phone calls. (*NOTE - I'm not sure on this next part...) I believe I read that the Bluetooth phone issue is rleated to 4.4.2 KitKat , and that it won't be fixed until HTC releases source for the DNA and 4.4.2.
One "big bug" I had with 3.5 was related to GSM ... there is a big issue with APNs, SIMs and ViperDNA 3.5. This is just an FYI based on my flashing experience.
I'm going to try 3.0.1 like others here and see how that goes - I am hoping all I get (if any!) is the camera issue mentinoed above.
Bujjet said:
An update -
Viper 3.5 has been released - it supposedly fixes the multiple text message bug (one that I was receiving)... And others are reporting a bug with Bluetooth headsets - in that when music/video/media etc work really well but is jumbled when making phone calls. (*NOTE - I'm not sure on this next part...) I believe I read that the Bluetooth phone issue is rleated to 4.4.2 KitKat , and that it won't be fixed until HTC releases source for the DNA and 4.4.2.
One "big bug" I had with 3.5 was related to GSM ... there is a big issue with APNs, SIMs and ViperDNA 3.5. This is just an FYI based on my flashing experience.
I'm going to try 3.0.1 like others here and see how that goes - I am hoping all I get (if any!) is the camera issue mentinoed above.
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3.5.0 apparently fixes double texts (i modded and used a different mms.apk)....that is according to beta team and other users as i personally block messaging on my account and use google voice and hangouts for texting as i dont want to pay for a messaging plan
gsm was a mistake on my part and i got aggressive in trying to make it a more pure gsm build for those users....but if you select "verizon" install instead of gsm in aroma you can still manually set your apns and network mode.....just loose out on the specific gsm quicksettings and have some verizon apps installed
there should be no difference in bluetooth from 3.0.0 up to 3.5.0, its all the same files, phone calls work the same regardless of version for me....but everyones devices are different and we are talking about a rom port
the camera issue/bug with screen off was resolved as of 3.1.0 as well
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why viper? the interface is very different from sense, is there sense inside viper?
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Yes, Viper is a sense-based ROM. That means it has all the sense libraries and applications. The default lock screen is the sense lock screen, the default launcher is the sense launcher, and the sense mail app, widgets, calendar, etc. are all there too. Other ROMs which are based on Cyanogenmod or AOSP cannot run sense applications because they lack the libraries (and maybe other stuff? kernel support?) needed to run sense.
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Yes, Viper is a sense-based ROM. That means it has all the sense libraries and applications. The default lock screen is the sense lock screen, the default launcher is the sense launcher, and the sense mail app, widgets, calendar, etc. are all there too. Other ROMs which are based on Cyanogenmod or AOSP cannot run sense applications because they lack the libraries (and maybe other stuff? kernel support?) needed to run sense.
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sorry mate, i kinda stuck in my hboot flashing, could you help me out on this.
i already unlock and rooted my droid dna, and install clockmod recovery, but nowaday most rom are on twrp, so i used fastboot method to replace my clockmod with twrp, and then i proceed to flash my hboot, but i encounter this error,
H:\fastboot flash zip PL83IMG_3.06_hboot.zip
sending 'zip' (558 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.203s]
writing 'zip'...
FAILED (remote: 92 supercid! please flush image again immediately)
finished. total time: 0.265s
so what is wrong with my supercid?? thanks.
TerminatorJ said:
sorry mate, i kinda stuck in my hboot flashing, could you help me out on this.
i already unlock and rooted my droid dna, and install clockmod recovery, but nowaday most rom are on twrp, so i used fastboot method to replace my clockmod with twrp, and then i proceed to flash my hboot, but i encounter this error,
H:\fastboot flash zip PL83IMG_3.06_hboot.zip
sending 'zip' (558 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.203s]
writing 'zip'...
FAILED (remote: 92 supercid! please flush image again immediately)
finished. total time: 0.265s
so what is wrong with my supercid?? thanks.
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Sorry, I haven't seen that one before. But I'm a bit of a noob; maybe someone else can help? If a forum search doesn't turn up anything useful, you might get more attention by starting a new thread.
Thank you!
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gsm was a mistake on my part and i got aggressive in trying to make it a more pure gsm build for those users....but if you select "verizon" install instead of gsm in aroma you can still manually set your apns and network mode.....just loose out on the specific gsm quicksettings and have some verizon apps installed
there should be no difference in bluetooth from 3.0.0 up to 3.5.0, its all the same files, phone calls work the same regardless of version for me....but everyones devices are different and we are talking about a rom port
the camera issue/bug with screen off was resolved as of 3.1.0 as well
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Thank you so much for replying in this thread Nitsuj17. Glad to know all of this.. I think I will flash 3.5 now in Verizon mode. 3.0.x has been working well for me too (except I have gotten the lock screen bug a few times, once for sure with camera). Love your ROMs and your work.
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No worry, and thanks for your reply. It is due to s off wasnt done. I already flash my rom. All is good now
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3.5.0 apparently fixes double texts (i modded and used a different mms.apk)....that is according to beta team and other users as i personally block messaging on my account and use google voice and hangouts for texting as i dont want to pay for a messaging plan
gsm was a mistake on my part and i got aggressive in trying to make it a more pure gsm build for those users....but if you select "verizon" install instead of gsm in aroma you can still manually set your apns and network mode.....just loose out on the specific gsm quicksettings and have some verizon apps installed
there should be no difference in bluetooth from 3.0.0 up to 3.5.0, its all the same files, phone calls work the same regardless of version for me....but everyones devices are different and we are talking about a rom port
the camera issue/bug with screen off was resolved as of 3.1.0 as well
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Great, thanks! Sounds like 3.5 is a winner. I'll update when I get a chance. Very much appreciate all your hard work on this ROM; I'm quite happy with it.
One thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is where to configure the launch shortcuts for the AOSP lockscreen. The ability to configure shortcuts goes away when I toggle from the sense lockscreen to AOSP, but the AOSP lockscreen has 8 slots around the circle for apps to launch, they're just mostly empty. Perhaps that's fixed in 3.5 too?
The best way to find the best DNA KitKat Rom would be to download and be a flashaholic. That's what I have done here so far and honestly I'm stuck between santod040 and nitsuj17 Rom.! They both give me the performance I'm looking for and I never have issues with either of there roms. And when I do I see others metioning the same thing and within a day or two it's usually fixed by them. But that's my point of view. Only you can choose the Rom you like.
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Does anyone know how to add some sense feature to the google play rom ?
Mainly interested in adding sense camera software to a gpe rom, also I would like to know how to make the back button kill the current app like on sense, how to remove the battery icon like sense, and how to just show the battery percentage in numbers only with no battery icon around the numbers like I can on sense roms, also I like the sense dialer over the gpe dialer, another feature would be to be able to hold down the home button to bring up the menu at any time.
I had tried the gpe rom on my old m7 kit kat and these were features that I could not add or figure out how to do with the gpe.
But now being on the m8 I would like to run the gpe but I want the features I listed that I like that I have with sense roms such as the viperone I normally run.
Basically I like how the gpe didnt eat up my phones memory and runs a lot faster and smoother than sense roms.
Either that or if there is a way to remove as much htc crap as possible such as back up and all the garbage I never use, there is so much that it would take me a month to physically go through and try removing then see if it works ok or if I need to unfreeze the htc apps or restore a back up allowing them back on. I already have all the social media stuff removed as much as possible.
I just want a clean rom with no crap that is not 100% required for the rom to run, but yet I still want the sense options that I listed above.
If you do not understand why I want to remove as much bloat as possible, then please do not post on this page, because I do not want anyone asking why trying to say they do not think there is no need to, well please respect that this is my posting and yes you are entitled to your own opinion but you can post whatever you want just please put it on your own posting as I do not want any posting like that, so please respect my posting and post those opinions elsewhere thank you.
Short answer is that porting Sense apps (such as the camera) to GPE or AOSP ROMs can't be done. Longer answer is that the Sense apps are purposely heavily tied to the Sense framework. Technically, just about anything is "possible" but porting it would require many hours of tedious work by the right developer(s) for something that is probably not popularly demanded.
Your best bet may be to try a ROM like Viper, InsertCoin, etc. which have many options to remove various Sense apps and (when applicable) replace them with the "vanilla" Google versions.
Another possibility that I have seen on other devices, is that a developer would release a "de-Sensified" ROM which would still have the Sense framework intact, but remove many of the Sense apps, and giving the ROM an overall GPE/AOSP look and feel, while keeping the features that many folks desire. Of course, there is the rub: what some people may see as "crap" may be desired by others. The camera is the most frequent request. But what Sense components get removed versus what gets kept is subjective. Which just brings me back to a ROM like Viper, InsertCoin, etc. which give you the options to choose for yourself what to remove.
You are better off staying sense and using Google launcher and Google apps
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You are better off staying sense and using Google launcher and Google apps
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The thing is though that with the gpe roms the phone is a lot faster and has more free memory. Right now I have to use google voice for personal reasons and with things skimmed down as much as I can the phone is still being slowed down with most of the memory being used. I wish they would have went with 3gigs of memory like samsung. I do a lot of work stuff on my phone and everything I use is what I require, nothing to get rid of other than some htc bloat that I could get away with ditching.
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Short answer is that porting Sense apps (such as the camera) to GPE or AOSP ROMs can't be done. Longer answer is that the Sense apps are purposely heavily tied to the Sense framework. Technically, just about anything is "possible" but porting it would require many hours of tedious work by the right developer(s) for something that is probably not popularly demanded.
Your best bet may be to try a ROM like Viper, InsertCoin, etc. which have many options to remove various Sense apps and (when applicable) replace them with the "vanilla" Google versions.
Another possibility that I have seen on other devices, is that a developer would release a "de-Sensified" ROM which would still have the Sense framework intact, but remove many of the Sense apps, and giving the ROM an overall GPE/AOSP look and feel, while keeping the features that many folks desire. Of course, there is the rub: what some people may see as "crap" may be desired by others. The camera is the most frequent request. But what Sense components get removed versus what gets kept is subjective. Which just brings me back to a ROM like Viper, InsertCoin, etc. which give you the options to choose for yourself what to remove.
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I already run viperone with as much bloat removed as I can. Only thing left is get rid of htc bloat that I can actually do with out which I have no clue what all I can get rid of htc wise without screwing things up. The only things I like about sense are listed in the first post. I miss my elegancia rom I only use viperone because there is no elegancia.
Roefastford said:
I already run viperone with as much bloat removed as I can. Only thing left is get rid of htc bloat that I can actually do with out which I have no clue what all I can get rid of htc wise without screwing things up. The only things I like about sense are listed in the first post. I miss my elegancia rom I only use viperone because there is no elegancia.
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Try freezing the unwanted apps with Titanium Backup first. Then if you test for a while, and see no ill effects than remove the app in question. Or just keep it frozen. In fact, I don't think there is much benefit to removing vs. freezing in this case.
redpoint73 said:
Try freezing the unwanted apps with Titanium Backup first. Then if you test for a while, and see no ill effects than remove the app in question. Or just keep it frozen. In fact, I don't think there is much benefit to removing vs. freezing in this case.
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That would be a very lengthy and painful process to do.
Roefastford said:
That would be a very lengthy and painful process to do.
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The only way around this, that I see, is for someone to tell you one by one what apps/processes are safe to remove or freeze. Someone might know this, and chime in. But the only way they would have found out, would be to do it trial and error as we've already discussed. So you can wait around for something that may or may not happen, or just start doing it yourself. Your choice.