So I used saferoot to root back at the 4.3 update; however, overnight one night my phone decided to install the tiny update Verizon pushed that kept 4.3 but took away root. Now I am trying to update to 4.4.2 via OTA update but it continuously fails...Since I've lost root already, I'm looking for a way to manually install the 4.4.2 update (knowing I won't have root access..but I don't know so...) or revert back to an 4.3 so I can root again with safestrap...
Can anyone offer any insight on either of these options? I'd probably prefer to revert to 4.3 and have root over 4.4.2 without....
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Android Version - 4.3
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kbrown.1407 said:
So I used safestrap to root back at the 4.3 update; however, overnight one night my phone decided to install the tiny update Verizon pushed that kept 4.3 but took away root. Now I am trying to update to 4.4.2 via OTA update but it continuously fails...Since I've lost root already, I'm looking for a way to manually install the 4.4.2 update (knowing I won't have root access..but I don't know so...) or revert back to an 4.3 so I can root again with safestrap...
Can anyone offer any insight on either of these options? I'd probably prefer to revert to 4.3 and have root over 4.4.2 without....
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If you're on 4.3 w/o root, you can follow this thread and regain root. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752360
I haven't see anyone post 4.4.2 yet to manually flash if the download fails. I'm the same boat there. Give it a few days and I'm sure someone will post it.
Thanks
xnatex21 said:
If you're on 4.3 w/o root, you can follow this thread and regain root. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752360
I haven't see anyone post 4.4.2 yet to manually flash if the download fails. I'm the same boat there. Give it a few days and I'm sure someone will post it.
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Thanks, I actually came across that post just a bit ago (apparently gave up on finding an answer a bit early, sorry). One other question though, if and/or when someone posts 4.4.2, is there a way to update manually and maintain root access? Or is root lost once it's updated in any way?
kbrown.1407 said:
Thanks, I actually came across that post just a bit ago (apparently gave up on finding an answer a bit early, sorry). One other question though, if and/or when someone posts 4.4.2, is there a way to update manually and maintain root access? Or is root lost once it's updated in any way?
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The only way you'd be able to get root is if someone finds a root exploit for this specific device and 4.4.2 (assuming you're on 4.3 with a locked bootloader already).
If you don't have a locked bootloader, then you can flash custom 4.4.x roms with root.
But if you are on a custom rom with an unlocked bootloader and you ODIN to the stock Verizon 4.4.2 that rolled out yesterday, you'd get a locked (possibly permanently) bootloader and a potentially un-rootable 4.4.2 rom.
xnatex21 said:
The only way you'd be able to get root is if someone finds a root exploit for this specific device and 4.4.2 (assuming you're on 4.3 with a locked bootloader already).
If you don't have a locked bootloader, then you can flash custom 4.4.x roms with root.
But if you are on a custom rom with an unlocked bootloader and you ODIN to the stock Verizon 4.4.2 that rolled out yesterday, you'd get a locked (possibly permanently) bootloader and a potentially un-rootable 4.4.2 rom.
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I am on 4.3 with the locked bootloader. Thanks again for the help.
xnatex21 said:
If you're on 4.3 w/o root, you can follow this thread and regain root. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752360
I haven't see anyone post 4.4.2 yet to manually flash if the download fails. I'm the same boat there. Give it a few days and I'm sure someone will post it.
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My update failed too, so I am interested as well if someone has the 4.4.2 official
mgarcia86 said:
My update failed too, so I am interested as well if someone has the 4.4.2 official
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Mine did the first couple times. What I did was odin to stock 4.3 again and take the small update on 4.3 and then the 4.4.2 worked after that.
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Hi,
I'm looking for a little help please. I have an international HOX X+ (on O2 ) that I unlocked and rooted using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213910&goto=newpost
At the time I did not want a ROM installed, just root so thats all I did. Since the release of Android 4.2.2 I wanted to get that installed, clearly the OTA update will not work with TWRP installed and I tried the Insertcoin 5.0.5 ROM, as that has all I need. But it simply fails with unable to load zip. (iirc)
Soo, I want to get my phone back to stock image - no twrp so that I can perform the OTA update and then re-root. Is this possible?
JAy3k1 said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a little help please. I have an international HOX X+ (on O2 ) that I unlocked and rooted using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213910&goto=newpost
At the time I did not want a ROM installed, just root so thats all I did. Since the release of Android 4.2.2 I wanted to get that installed, clearly the OTA update will not work with TWRP installed and I tried the Insertcoin 5.0.5 ROM, as that has all I need. But it simply fails with unable to load zip. (iirc)
Soo, I want to get my phone back to stock image - no twrp so that I can perform the OTA update and then re-root. Is this possible?
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Yes, please follow this guide on how to unroot and relock the bootloader :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35897885#post35897885 Written by the amazing hasoon2000
This guide talks about how to reverse everything back to stock to get OTA updates. Best of luck
Ghand0ur said:
Yes, please follow this guide on how to unroot and relock the bootloader :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35897885#post35897885 Written by the amazing hasoon2000
This guide talks about how to reverse everything back to stock to get OTA updates. Best of luck
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Thank you very much Ghand0ur. I shall stick my head into this now...
Hey everyone, I am new to rooting but I have been all over t)his site learning about it. I currently have a verizon note 2 running 4.3 that I took OTA, with a vruemj9 build. I see that I can root the phone with safe root but it won't unlock the boot loader? So that means I can't install CWM or any custom Roms or kernels? Isn't that the best thing about rooting phones? Is there any way around this? Can I roll back to something before the 4.3 since I took it OTA? And than be able to root my phone? Thanks in advance guys. Any help would be appreciated
vafangool said:
Hey everyone, I am new to rooting but I have been all over t)his site learning about it. I currently have a verizon note 2 running 4.3 that I took OTA, with a vruemj9 build. I see that I can root the phone with safe root but it won't unlock the boot loader? So that means I can't install CWM or any custom Roms or kernels? Isn't that the best thing about rooting phones? Is there any way around this? Can I roll back to something before the 4.3 since I took it OTA? And than be able to root my phone? Thanks in advance guys. Any help would be appreciated
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Well I just read and saw that I can't undo the OTA 4.3 update. So I guess I'll just have to use the safe root and hope for the bootloader to get unlocked. I knew I should have done this a long time ago . Has anyone seen that galaxynote2root Something about downloading root injected firmware?
So, this morning I accidentally accepted the 4.3 OTA update. I know I can't install any custom roms because of the locked bootloader I now have. Are there any stock roms I can install?
YouthD said:
So, this morning I accidentally accepted the 4.3 OTA update. I know I can't install any custom roms because of the locked bootloader I now have. Are there any stock roms I can install?
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You are on the stock rom. What you have is what you get. You can root and use xposed framework for some things, but that's it.
Sent From My Sticky Note, Too?
Kingo root is what I used to get root access it also provides an unroot option.
Should I unroot first if I want to accept the 4.4.3 OTA update from Verizon?
My VZW Note 2 was rooted via Saferoot. Then I disabled SDM and FWupgrade by renaming them to *.bak.
I don't mind resetting everything to factory default. If I do that, should I unroot as well?
Thanks!
nope you shouldnt have to unroot. However, do understand that there is a chance that you cannot root in the future with 4.4 due to Knox 2.0. We just have to hope developers find a new way to root/unlock bootloader.
mushypizza said:
nope you shouldnt have to unroot. However, do understand that there is a chance that you cannot root in the future with 4.4 due to Knox 2.0. We just have to hope developers find a new way to root/unlock bootloader.
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Thanks! That exactly what confuses me right now.
If I don't unroot and turn on SDM/FWupgrade to allow 4.4.3 OTA update to
be installed on my rooted Note 2,will the rooting disappear afterwards?
(going back to rooted state by itself?)
Or will the Note 2 remain rooted?
Thanks!
youphone said:
Thanks! That exactly what confuses me right now.
If I don't unroot and turn on SDM/FWupgrade to allow 4.4.3 OTA update to
be installed on my rooted Note 2,will the rooting disappear afterwards?
(going back to rooted state by itself?)
Or will the Note 2 remain rooted?
Thanks!
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There is no 4.4.3 Ota. Only 4.4.2. And yes you will lose root. It's not currently rooted.
Never take the OTA's. Just wait for one of the ROM developers to make a ROM based on the OTA.
DreamFX said:
There is no 4.4.3 Ota. Only 4.4.2. And yes you will lose root. It's not currently rooted.
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yeah, I meant 4.4.2
If my Galaxy Note 2 is currently rooted, it will not lose root after 4.4.2 is installed. Is this correct?
coolpoete said:
Never take the OTA's. Just wait for one of the ROM developers to make a ROM based on the OTA.
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Is that even possible on a Verizon Galaxy Note 2 that came from Samsung with 4.3?
youphone said:
Is that even possible on a Verizon Galaxy Note 2 that came from Samsung with 4.3?
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Once you update using the OTA 4.4, you WILL LOSE root.
If your phone came with 4.3, then it is not possible to flash another rom since the bootloader is locked. Root is possible though.
mushypizza said:
Once you update using the OTA 4.4, you WILL LOSE root.
If your phone came with 4.3, then it is not possible to flash another rom since the bootloader is locked. Root is possible though.
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Actually it is still possible to flash custom roms with locked bootloader: safestrap.
Currently installed is SkyDragon. How can I update the phone to a GPE Lollipop ROM? I have S-ON.
catzilla said:
Currently installed is SkyDragon. How can I update the phone to a GPE Lollipop ROM? I have S-ON.
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There is no official lollipop for AT&T yet, but wonders_never_cease has a dev edition ROM modified for at&t, all the directions to flash it are in the thread, I recommend trying it, very fast with no bugs ?
catzilla said:
Currently installed is SkyDragon. How can I update the phone to a GPE Lollipop ROM? I have S-ON.
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just flash skydragons lollipop gpe
rbouza1 said:
just flash skydragons lollipop gpe
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If the OP hasn't updated to 4.4.4 firmware by OTA (and can't do it manually with s-on) broken WiFi may be the result after flashing SD LP.
4.4.4 is reportedly started to roll out today for AT&T (which will update the firmware).
redpoint73 said:
If the OP hasn't updated to 4.4.4 firmware by OTA (and can't do it manually with s-on) broken WiFi may be the result after flashing SD LP.
4.4.4 is reportedly started to roll out today for AT&T (which will update the firmware).
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How can I update to AT&T's 4.4.4 without unlocking S-On? Is that possible?
I think I read something around here that says that going back from a GPE rom to a carrier rom is impossible unless s-off.
Can you please confirm?
Really, I have absolutely zero need in AT&T's 4.4.4 if there is any way I could jump straight to SkyDragon 5.0 GPE, without screwing up connectivity.
Another thing is, I have an update notification waiting for me (see pic). What will happen if I flash that? Will that completely screw up my phone, or will that get me to Google's stock Lollipop GPE?
catzilla said:
How can I update to AT&T's 4.4.4 without unlocking S-On? Is that possible?
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Its certainly possible. Either return to stock ROM and stock recovery, and OTA to 4.4.4.
Or alternately, relock the bootloader and flash the 4.4.4 RUU (back any personal data before RUU, all internal storage will be wiped).
catzilla said:
I think I read something around here that says that going back from a GPE rom to a carrier rom is impossible unless s-off.
Can you please confirm?
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That is incorrect. If you just flash a GPE based ROM, you can freely go back to Sense.
S-off is needed to fully convert to GPE (including GPE CID, bootloader, partitioning, etc.); or alternately, to fully convert a GPE version to Sense.
catzilla said:
Really, I have absolutely zero need in AT&T's 4.4.4 if there is any way I could jump straight to SkyDragon 5.0 GPE.
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You don't need the ROM, but you absolutely do need the 4.4.4 firmware. If you don't have it, WiFi will be broken. You might also have extremely long boot times (10+ minutes).
And that is the only reason I'm suggesting the OTA, so you can update the firmware without having to s-off.
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catzilla said:
Another thing is, I have an update notification waiting for me (see pic). What will happen if I flash that? Will that completely screw up my phone, or will that get me to Google's stock Lollipop GPE?
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With you current setup the OTA won't work:
1) You have to be on a stock ROM or the OTA will fail.
2) You have to be on corresponding stock recovery, or the OTA will not install (phone will loop booting TWRP looking for stock recovery and not finding it).
3) You need the GPE Carrier ID (CID) or OTA will fail. You can't change CID with s-on.
So what you are saying is, my best course of action would be to:
1) Flash stock 4.4.2 (is rooted version okay?)
2) Update to stock 4.4.4 via OTA (is there root available? how do I not lose it?)
3) Flash SkyDragon Lollipop
catzilla said:
So what you are saying is, my best course of action would be to:
1) Flash stock 4.4.2 (is rooted version okay?)
2) Update to stock 4.4.4 via OTA (is there root available? how do I not lose it?)
3) Flash SkyDragon Lollipop
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1) Rooted is okay, as long as no system files have been altered (which should be the case if its called "stock"). You also need stock recovery.
2) You will lose root. Simply root again. Flash TWRP, and flash SU or SuperSU. Or just boot TWRP, and it will probably ask you if you want to root.
3) Yes.
Alternately, since the 4.4.4 RUU is now available:
- backup any personal data
- Relock bootloader
- RUU
- Re-unlock bootloader and install TWRP
- Flash Skydragon
I can't say RUU methos is necessarily any better or easier. Just another option, really. But it might take the footwork out of finding the right stock ROM and stock recovery combo, and restore the phone to "stock" in one fell swoop.
One last question, and I feel sad for asking this because I really should be able to find it myself: where can I find this mythical 4.4.4 AT&T RUU? I've looked all over the forum but I just don't see it.
Edit: I think I got it. Is this it? http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_...40.34.C35006.02_F_release_407726_signed_2.exe
Relocked, ran RUU, unlocked, flashed recovery, flashed rom, currently patiently waiting for it to boot.
I think this is going to work, thanks for all your help! =)