this is how my xperia z ultra (C6833, 4.4.2, 14.3.a.0.757) plays notifications
http://i.imgur.com/iD4VkhE.png
this is supposed to be a 2 second long 1KHz tone at -3 dB, almost maximum volume. A simple signal so one can see it clearly.
there is a gap near the start and a very very loud pop before it starts. The pop is off the scale, much louder than what the device supposedly allows any sound to be.
any ideas?
Does this happen with all the notification sounds? If so, it's a really weird issue.
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all i have tried so far exhibit this behaviour.
going into diagnostics and doing the earphone and speakerphone test in succession stops the problem
but after half a minute it starts doing it again.
i do not have time to go to a sony center these days, but after next week i will
I've had the same thing on some stock ROMs (I don't recall which). There's no such issue on Paranoid Android.
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there is no such issue in the other android phones i had, either
This happens to me too. ...very annoying.
Don't really know what to do about that.
Perhaps someone could write a script that whenever media server starts like with notification or ringtone, it starts in low volume and max out very quickly or to the volume level that the user has set so that it doesn't become that "ascending ringtone" function.
And if media server is already active. Like if you are playing a game or music there would be some environment function that the script does not trigger it self because when media is played and a notification comes on it only lower the volume of that stream so the problem does not involve these scenarios. And when the notification ends the volume of the music is reset to its original volume.
So the problem from what I have experienced is that the cracking sound comes only when media server is inactive and starts up.
This idea would work similar to the "ascending ringtone"function. But this applies to all notification streams and not only ringtones.
This is one solution I can come up with. But I don't know how to implement this in a rom.
This might eliminate this pop-cracking sound right before the sound of an notification or ringtone plays
One suggestion is perhaps to make this to a module that installs and activates with Xposed framework?
edit: Oh forgot to mention. Im on slimkat rom with pimped kernel. But it does the same with any other kernel or rom
don't want to ruin it for you but the pop *will* happen, no matter if the volume starts low or high.
i measured it with the volume at the minimum (but not zero) volume. the pop is still there, still louderthan the max volume.
i wonder if we can bring charges against sony for this. we've set the volume to a certain level and the phone not only ignores it but it also produces a sound louder than what is normally possible on the device. *much* louder, not just "quite louder". we're talking four times louder.
Bring charges...
God I hate that sort of attitude. If you have a defective device send it in for repair.
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blueether said:
Bring charges...
God I hate that sort of attitude. If you have a defective device send it in for repair.
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it is a design flaw, not a malfunctioning unit.
i'd rather not damage my ears because sony can't design a safe device.
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it is a design flaw, not a malfunctioning unit.
i'd rather not damage my ears because sony can't design a safe device.
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It's not a design flaw, because you're one of few people that have this problem, making it not the norm, but a defect. Stop whining and use your warranty.
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It's not a design flaw, because you're one of few people that have this problem, making it not the norm, but a defect. Stop whining and use your warranty.
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few people report this issue, mostly because they do not understand the gravity of it. I'd wager most peoples' xzu do have this issue.
and i bet that sony will not even admit to it being a defect... come friday i will have an answer from them... i bet five bucks to you they will not even consider it to be a problem. Yes, five US dollars, i will paypal them to you if sony does NOT admit that gaps and pops are a defect.
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few people report this issue, mostly because they do not understand the gravity of it. I'd wager most peoples' xzu do have this issue.
and i bet that sony will not even admit to it being a defect... come friday i will have an answer from them... i bet five bucks to you they will not even consider it to be a problem. Yes, five US dollars, i will paypal them to you if sony does NOT admit that gaps and pops are a defect.
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I have 2 units here. one from Hong Kong the other from Singapore, neither unit pops at the start of a notification sound
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few people report this issue, mostly because they do not understand the gravity of it. I'd wager most peoples' xzu do have this issue.
and i bet that sony will not even admit to it being a defect... come friday i will have an answer from them... i bet five bucks to you they will not even consider it to be a problem. Yes, five US dollars, i will paypal them to you if sony does NOT admit that gaps and pops are a defect.
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Mine doesn't have this issue, so it's not normal. If ROM flashing doesn't solve it, it's not a software issue - but hardware, SO AGAIN; use your warranty. I'm not seeing the problem here.
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wait, the bet should be that i send you 5 bucks if they DO admit it is a defect worthy of replace/repair. i messed it up.
https://soundcloud.com/tsiros-1/tonetest
this is how the ringtone sounds from the headphones.
could you hook up your z ultra to the line in of your computer, set the default ringtone to this https://soundcloud.com/tsiros-1/tone , have music playing on the z ultra, record it on the pc and then call your phone? i want to see the behaviour of your phone
tsiros said:
https://soundcloud.com/tsiros-1/tonetest
this is how the ringtone sounds from the headphones.
could you hook up your z ultra to the line in of your computer, set the default ringtone to this https://soundcloud.com/tsiros-1/tone , have music playing on the z ultra, record it on the pc and then call your phone? i want to see the behaviour of your phone
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I'm not going to bother doing that, but I can tell you right now, like I've already said several times, that I do definitely NOT have this issue. That my friend is not normal.
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yes you do, you just don't notice it.
when 4.4.4 rolls out, you will see in the changelog that they fixed an issue with gaps and pops at the start of notification sounds.
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I'm not going to bother doing that, but I can tell you right now, like I've already said several times, that I do definitely NOT have this issue. That my friend is not normal.
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here you go. same issue on the z1 compact
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ication-Sounds-and-Ringtones/m-p/741889#M6717
you most certainly have this issue, you just not notice it.
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I keep getting awierd sound from speakers after the device has been asleep..sort of like a buzz sound..can't really explain it..but it happens when the device first makes a sound after its been sleeping..anyone know what this could be? Kernel maybe?
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I keep getting awierd sound from speakers after the device has been asleep..sort of like a buzz sound..can't really explain it..but it happens when the device first makes a sound after its been sleeping..anyone know what this could be? Kernel maybe?
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Maybe electrical interference?
Move the tablet away from any other electronic devices (especially mobile phones) and see if it persists.
It hasnt really been near any phones..my phone is about 1 foot away from the touchpad..I have had it closer before and it hasn't made a noise..
I think I know what you mean, the sound is like a short buzz or "Donk" sound. I sometimes get it when I first click on the pad or when I swipe up to close an app.
The only thing I can think of that I did was installing the increase sound patch and later removed the patch. It started after that.
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I think I know what you mean, the sound is like a short buzz or "Donk" sound. I sometimes get it when I first click on the pad or when I swipe up to close an app.
The only thing I can think of that I did was installing the increase sound patch and later removed the patch. It started after that.
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I got this after going through various patches, although I didn't install the sound patch. It went away for me after a few reboots.
To the OP, you may have abnormally good hearing and can hear the white noise speakers make when they're activated, try it with some other devices, see if you hear the same buzz, if not, call HP and get a replacement.
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Touchpad weird sound
Ok so i just got my Touchpad 16GB yesterday and while i was playing around with it, i noticed it doing a weird sound like when those old speakers where powered on. I updated to 3.0.2 and it still does it.
Ps: Its not the WEE easteregg sound
Not sure what sound you mean but it shouldn't be making any noises you don't want it to. Get in touch with HP to see if they can fix it for you.
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Not sure what sound you mean but it shouldn't be making any noises you don't want it to. Get in touch with HP to see if they can fix it for you.
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Well, i bought it from ebay (from canada) so im not sure if they will even think about checking it.
It makes that sound only when its not in 'mute' and when im using it. When the screen is locked, nothing happens. It sounds like a little shutter noise of half a second length.
When I shake the phone there's a rattling noise, it could be the battery or something like that, is this normal or should I take it back to store?
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When I shake the phone there's a rattling noise, it could be the battery or something like that, is this normal or should I take it back to store?
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Unless it's loud and feels like something has fallen off, it might be the camera or the accelerometer.
Accelerometer is an aside, no audible moving parts.
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just gave mine a shake and i will admit im not in the quietest office but i could not hear anything. If i was you i would take to the store to be safe i mean they should just straight swap it over.
I meant to type "ASIC," silly autocorrect changed it on my atrix.
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Yup, I have that too. I noticed it when I followed the 'shake' tip in App Highlights.
It's like one of the bigger parts isn't secured, possibly the battery. It makes a muffled click-clack noise when I shake the phone. But I have to really shake it, when I turn it over or move swiftly it doesn't occur.
Just to let everyone know (esp the guy above me) I took it back and got a replacement, the replacement makes no noise on shake at all so it definitely is some kind of fault (albeit a small one).
Like, robinVerdegaal says I think it was the battery. Mine was pretty loud (you could hear it rattle in a loud room) and I also noticed it when using the Suprise Me function on the App Highlights app.
Thanks brummiesteven. I didn't have a real problem with the loose part, but as I've also had a couple of touchscreen and touchbutton freezes (see this thread) I'll probably go and get a replacement as well.
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Thanks brummiesteven. I didn't have a real problem with the loose part, but as I've also had a couple of touchscreen and touchbutton freezes (see this thread) I'll probably go and get a replacement as well.
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I think that may be a software problem, I too have a similar issue, screen works fine but none of the buttons on the side work, volume, power, camera etc. It only happens when connected to power which is why I think it's a software problem.
I'm at lost here I'm not sure whether to exchange my LG g3 for something else . some of my apps are not compatible with 4.4.2 with no update in site and being with in my 14 days not sure what to do . verizon is willing to work with me . coming for the note 3 to LG g3 I have to say I'm disappointed . any help would be appreciated.
Just got unlocked if that matters for you.
I really like mine and I'm keeping it but I think it's a dying phone as far as support goes (both official and from the hacking community).
This is especially true for the Verizon version.
The support the phone receives in the next 8 or 9 months before the G4 is available is what is going to make up my mind up about whether I stick with LG or jump back to the Samsung Galaxy line.
The G3/GS4/Note4 are the only flagship phones I would consider right now because I want a replaceable battery. Options are really limited for those of us who like to be able to carry an extra battery when we are going to have a really long day with heavy usage.
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I'm at lost here I'm not sure whether to exchange my LG g3 for something else . some of my apps are not compatible with 4.4.2 with no update in site and being with in my 14 days not sure what to do . verizon is willing to work with me . coming for the note 3 to LG g3 I have to say I'm disappointed . any help would be appreciated.
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What apps are not compatible with 4.4.2? Maybe someone would know better alternatives to them that are compatible?
Thanks for,the replies I exchanged phone ,most have been a issue with the phone it self everything works now except the starbucks apps I can live with that
I'm thinking of selling mine as well. Still getting callers telling me I am muffled, under water, fading and so forth. I'm one of those rare folks for whom making calls is important. Never had any of these problems with my previous phone a Razr Maxx.
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I'm thinking of selling mine as well. Still getting callers telling me I am muffled, under water, fading and so forth. I'm one of those rare folks for whom making calls is important. Never had any of these problems with my previous phone a Razr Maxx.
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I am in the same boat. I don't know that Verizon or LG are going to fix the muffled sound issue. I plan to move to another phone shortly, and not return to LG.
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I am in the same boat. I don't know that Verizon or LG are going to fix the muffled sound issue. I plan to move to another phone shortly, and not return to LG.
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Ok. Creepy! I rarely use my cell phone for calls. And a few days ago someone told me the exact same thing.
Now the weird part was the issue was exactly the same on hangouts Call and video call with headphones.
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Ok. Creepy! I rarely use my cell phone for calls. And a few days ago someone told me the exact same thing.
Now the weird part was the issue was exactly the same on hangouts Call and video call with headphones.
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I've done some experimenting with the issue because it happens to me on just about every call that goes more than say a couple of minutes or so.
For me, it has never failed even a single time when I use my BT headset or the BT in the car.
In fact just yesterday, I was on a call and the person on the other end was complaining I was fading in and out. I hot swapped to my BT headset and we talked for about 45 minutes without a single problem.
So that leads me to conclude, that at least for my phone, it is the microphone or the audio processing within the phone and most likely not a radio problem.
Also when it does fail, re positioning the phone or talking loudly into the microphone seems to "wake it up" temporarily.
It also fails on speakerphone BTW.
I've seen some hits on the net regarding others with this problem and I suspect it is wide spread however most people are inclined to blame it on the cell connection etc.
I might try LG warranty repair first before selling and see if they can either fix/replace it.
It might just end up being an inherent design problem in the hardware which would be really bad.
Anyone hear a light crackling and buzzing sound during silent portions of a call through regular ear speaker?
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Yes. There is a crackling sound on every single call I get now. I can even hear it while they are talking. It's not loud enough to make it so you can't hear the other person but it is annoying.
I didn't notice it for the first couple of weeks I had the phone but I've noticed for at least 2 weeks now on every single call.
As for the problem of people not hearing me, that was solved by holding the bottom of the phone closer to my mouth. I have a tendency to angle the phone away from my head when talking and it seems like the mic in the G3 is terrible and just doesn't pick sound up very well at more than a couple inches from your mouth.
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Yes. There is a crackling sound on every single call I get now. I can even hear it while they are talking. It's not loud enough to make it so you can't hear the other person but it is annoying.
I didn't notice it for the first couple of weeks I had the phone but I've noticed for at least 2 weeks now on every single call.
As for the problem of people not hearing me, that was solved by holding the bottom of the phone closer to my mouth. I have a tendency to angle the phone away from my head when talking and it seems like the mic in the G3 is terrible and just doesn't pick sound up very well at more than a couple inches from your mouth.
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I am trying to gather all the info I can on the issue. It seems like it's not affecting different phones just depends on how people hold it.
I preemptively disabled the voice enhancement setting just to be safe.
I placed several test calls to another cell and land-line and I heard no crackling. And my voice sounded just fine.
I am very curious to see if our update to hd calling improves the issue.
The sound I heard was so faint it was only noticeable during a pause. It was very reminiscent of signal interference. Maybe there's something not shielded correctly in the speaker or the antenna is too close?
I think the two issues are separate. Because the one time I had complaints it happened with phone, hangout voice call, and video, over speaker, mic, and headset. Hopefully disabling that voice enhancement fixes it.
Alright...
The bootlaoder is (basically) unlocked, you can get a free battery and cradle if you ask for it from LG, you can root/recovery/flash in @5 steps or less using stump/bump/flashify, and you can flash Jasmine(the phone JUST got TWRP!) ROM right now.
What more do you want?
Just go buy your iPhone/S5/locked down Note and stop bugging the rest of us who love our G3.
The G3 is a great phone and the devs are just getting started.
Hang in there.
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Alright...
The bootlaoder is (basically) unlocked, you can get a free battery and cradle if you ask for it from LG, you can root/recovery/flash in @5 steps or less using stump/bump/flashify, and you can flash Jasmine(the phone JUST got TWRP!) ROM right now.
What more do you want?
Just go buy your iPhone/S5/locked down Note and stop bugging the rest of us who love our G3.
The G3 is a great phone and the devs are just getting started.
Hang in there.
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Of course the G3 is a great phone, but that doesn't negate the fact that people are having problems with call quality. And it's rather odd, at least to me, that people seem to describe the symptoms the same way.
With all the phones I have owned/own, this one is the only one that I constantly have others telling me I'm:
1. Fading out.
2. Sound underwater.
3. Sound muffled.
4. Sound robotic/electronic voice like.
Some things I have discovered, only because I make a lot of calls.
1. Never happens with a BT wireless.
2. Never happens with a wired headset.
3. Never happens with speakerphone.
4. Re-positioning the phone so the bottom mic is above my mouth fixes it. This is not a solution because now the my ear rests in the middle of the screen, almost, not on the speaker.
My guess is that either the mic is not sensitive enough OR that fancy noise reduction/voice enhancement chip LG brags about is running amok somehow.
Reading the boards and even the reviews I realize that actually making phone calls with a phone seems to be an afterthought (see how little space the typical review gives to call quality) but for some of us it's more important than running YouTube at some insane resolution.
I do suspect that the reason the net isn't flooded with complaints is due to the fact that most people will blame this on cell technology and just the nature of the beast.
And that is understandable to a point.
I'm not interested much in rooting the phone.
I just want a phone I can make calls from where I don't have to be constantly re-positioning it so the other person can hear me.
That shouldn't be asking too much for a top tier phone.
This is Verizon BTW.
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Of course the G3 is a great phone, but that doesn't negate the fact that people are having problems with call quality. And it's rather odd, at least to me, that people seem to describe the symptoms the same way.
With all the phones I have owned/own, this one is the only one that I constantly have others telling me I'm:
1. Fading out.
2. Sound underwater.
3. Sound muffled.
4. Sound robotic/electronic voice like.
Some things I have discovered, only because I make a lot of calls.
1. Never happens with a BT wireless.
2. Never happens with a wired headset.
3. Never happens with speakerphone.
4. Re-positioning the phone so the bottom mic is above my mouth fixes it. This is not a solution because now the my ear rests in the middle of the screen, almost, not on the speaker.
My guess is that either the mic is not sensitive enough OR that fancy noise reduction/voice enhancement chip LG brags about is running amok somehow.
Reading the boards and even the reviews I realize that actually making phone calls with a phone seems to be an afterthought (see how little space the typical review gives to call quality) but for some of us it's more important than running YouTube at some insane resolution.
I do suspect that the reason the net isn't flooded with complaints is due to the fact that most people will blame this on cell technology and just the nature of the beast.
And that is understandable to a point.
I'm not interested much in rooting the phone.
I just want a phone I can make calls from where I don't have to be constantly re-positioning it so the other person can hear me.
That shouldn't be asking too much for a top tier phone.
This is Verizon BTW.
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This will probably be fixed, we haven't even got an update yet.
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This will probably be fixed, we haven't even got an update yet.
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I agree with you Chilidog !
That's why I am sticking with the phone.
I love everything else about this phone.
I must be lucky. The only time I had issues was after I rooted the phone. Once I restored the original ROM the issues completely went away. While I was rooted I had intermittent Wi-Fi, battery drain, and slow apps. Now I've used the phone at work all day and still have 60% battery left. My work Wi-Fi stayed connected all day and no voice quality issues. I've had all 3 Samsung Notes and I love the G3.
Just wondering, but has anyone tried disabling the noise suppression or voice enhancement settings under Settings > Call? These options don't affect BT.
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Just wondering, but has anyone tried disabling the noise suppression or voice enhancement settings under Settings > Call? These options don't affect BT.
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The Verizon version only has the Voice Enhancement setting and yes I have tried it both ways with no difference.
The android lollipop update is rumored for the end of 2014. It will probably fix a lot of the sluggishness and call quality problems as well as add better support for ART runtime and loads of other new features.
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Unlocked my white 32GB after 300 MB download. No issues.
Installed a few apps, nothing special yet, no system related apps.
This afternoon my N9 started ticking from the bottom speaker each time I touch the glass. Just unlocking via pattern does it also.
About 12-15 very quick clicks like a speaker wire is shortening out.
Any hope before I call in a RMA?
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benwish said:
Unlocked my white 32GB after 300 MB download. No issues.
Installed a few apps, nothing special yet, no system related apps.
This afternoon my N9 started ticking from the bottom speaker each time I touch the glass. Just unlocking via pattern does it also.
About 12-15 very quick clicks like a speaker wire is shortening out.
Any hope before I call in a RMA?
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How loud are these clicks?
It isn't unusual to get quiet clicks and buzzes when using a device, the Nexus 4 for example is a famous for it, it constantly makes a noise if you put your ear to it even when it is sleeping.
The CPU and other components are awake shy. They spend a large amount of time in sleep mode, perhaps coming on for a millilsecond then going off for several milliseconds, then back on at the next touch where it needs to display a nice graphic or do something, then off again. Everytime the CPU switches on, so does a lot of electrical circuitry to drive the power requirements. Currents switching on and off flowing through wires creates noise, either audible directly, like the hum from a kettle or a buzz from a power supply, or via electrical noise that is picked up by other circuits, for example the amplifier for the sound, which then makes it audible. Almost every electronic device if you put your ear to it makes a noise and buzzes, often changing in tone when you make it do something.
So I would say if it is very quiet, only audible in a quiet room when near to the tablet, it's is probably just normal operating noise. You might find a replacement is quieter, or you may find it is louder. You may find someone else can't hear it at all, if you are young you are more likely to hear these things than someone who is older as we lose high frequency hearing as we get older, and listening to loud music in headphones makes it happen quicker
Of course if it is pretty loud, audible all the time and annoying, certainly go for a replacement.
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Phil
Just wanna make sure, but you are not talking about the button touch sound on Android 5.0 are you? The sound has been changed to a very swooshing sound that almost sounds like static on an audio line.
Thank you guys for your input.
The sounds I observed were loud, not the near silent hum kind. More like a finger nail is hitting a window.
The sound got progressively louder during my trouble shooting.
It ended up in a total distorted, muffled tone coming from the bottom speaker.
Something inside shortened out.
I had a micro-Tesla conductivity meter this morning at my bench and I could see that by touching the screen even at the top it induced a small current directly at the bottom speaker.
I called an RMA and the N9 was declared DOA.
Replacement is in the mail.
B
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Thank you guys for your input.
The sounds I observed were loud, not the near silent hum kind. More like a finger nail is hitting a window.
The sound got progressively louder during my trouble shooting.
It ended up in a total distorted, muffled tone coming from the bottom speaker.
Something inside shortened out.
I had a micro-Tesla conductivity meter this morning at my bench and I could see that by touching the screen even at the top it induced a small current directly at the bottom speaker.
I called an RMA and the N9 was declared DOA.
Replacement is in the mail.
B
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When you called what did you tell them? Where did you get it from? I got mine from best buy, and have this same problem. I think I'm going to wait until its closer to my 14 day period... Maybe I'll get a second batch device.
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Not me. The ticking sound was the first thing I listened for when was testing out the speakers. I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary.
Took me awhile to be sure though cuz the song i used to test actually did have occasional ticks in it. I had to relisten to it on my headphones and on my home theather system to be sure it was just the song and it was.
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When you called what did you tell them? Where did you get it from? I got mine from best buy, and have this same problem. I think I'm going to wait until its closer to my 14 day period... Maybe I'll get a second batch device.
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I told them just my findings. Repeated click sounds by touching screen from a single speaker. This was a direct Google order and they sent a replacement within 24 h's. No questions asked.
The new White N9 is perfect. No unusual click sounds. In addition to that, there is a little less light bleed and from the few hours I used it so far I get the feeling that the battery is lasting a good bit longer. The first N9 went from 100% to about 40% within 3 h's of trouble shooting, the replacement is still at 75% after I unlocked & rooted and put back all my files, about 2.5 h#s screen-on-time. Makes sense, since the constant shortening out the speaker uses electricity.
The serial number difference of the last 4 numbers is a 44 higher count number, so I believe its the same batch/lot.
Overall, a quick and painless exchange and Google's RMA process is one of the fastest and easiest I have gone through.
Hey guys,
I basically bought the SBH-80 for about £40 and I'm experiencing some erratic behavior.
Sometimes if I leave the phone on my desk I can walk to the other side of the house before audio starts distorting i.e. the range is good. But sometimes the range is like 20cm. I kind find any pattern which would explain this discrepancy. The range is awful about 95% of the time.
The problem is I cycle to work, the phone works fine when I'm setting it up. It connects quickly and music starts playing. As soon as I put it into my pockets the music distorts, snap, crackle, pops and is basically unusable.
I've probably missed out lots of vital information but this is the jist of the issue. Can anyone recommend me trying anything?
note: It's not the headunit, I've tested it with an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 5 and it functions perfectly.
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Hey guys,
I basically bought the SBH-80 for about £40 and I'm experiencing some erratic behavior.
Sometimes if I leave the phone on my desk I can walk to the other side of the house before audio starts distorting i.e. the range is good. But sometimes the range is like 20cm. I kind find any pattern which would explain this discrepancy. The range is awful about 95% of the time.
The problem is I cycle to work, the phone works fine when I'm setting it up. It connects quickly and music starts playing. As soon as I put it into my pockets the music distorts, snap, crackle, pops and is basically unusable.
I've probably missed out lots of vital information but this is the jist of the issue. Can anyone recommend me trying anything?
note: It's not the headunit, I've tested it with an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 5 and it functions perfectly.
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bad news bro. that happened to my sbh80 too. bought it for $100 last year. either your bluetooth antenna(left earpiece cable) snapped or you have damaged bluetooth module. mine had that problem 3 months after buying it. kept it in storage for months i forgot i ever bought it. then i saw it again while i was cleaning up with 90% battery. tried it and now it works well. i don't know what happened as i sold it the next day for $65.
eumanoid said:
bad news bro. that happened to my sbh80 too. bought it for $100 last year. either your bluetooth antenna(left earpiece cable) snapped or you have damaged bluetooth module. mine had that problem 3 months after buying it. kept it in storage for months i forgot i ever bought it. then i saw it again while i was cleaning up with 90% battery. tried it and now it works well. i don't know what happened as i sold it the next day for $65.
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Brilliant lol It lasted ONE cycle trip, before it started distorting. Thankfully the eBay seller said I can return it. It's such a shame... I really like the design. Can you recommend any other bluetooth headsets?
theprince1991 said:
Brilliant lol It lasted ONE cycle trip, before it started distorting. Thankfully the eBay seller said I can return it. It's such a shame... I really like the design. Can you recommend any other bluetooth headsets?
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I'd say jaybird bluebuds since you cycle to work. They sound really good too.
I've got a Plantronics Voyager Legend. Within the same room (~20ft) it seems ok, but if it has to go through a wall (~30ft), it starts to break up. I once tried going up one floor and on the opposite side of the house (maybe 50ft at most) and it was really bad.
I figured that bluetooth in general wasn't that great.
I've never had an issue with the phone on me though.
I have more issues with my bluetooth mouse connected to my laptop
eumanoid said:
I'd say jaybird bluebuds since you cycle to work. They sound really good too.
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Ooft they are very expensive, not sure if I can endure such a hit on my bank account . I appreciate good audio quality. At home I use Grado SR225i's with Little Dot 1+ amp and I love it... Not tried a headphone more than I like that combination. But when it comes to earphones I don't really care about quality because I know I won't get anything close to the grado, the Sony earphones that came with my Z1 Compact are more than good enough but, of course, it's not wireless.
eng3 said:
I've got a Plantronics Voyager Legend. Within the same room (~20ft) it seems ok, but if it has to go through a wall (~30ft), it starts to break up. I once tried going up one floor and on the opposite side of the house (maybe 50ft at most) and it was really bad.
I figured that bluetooth in general wasn't that great.
I've never had an issue with the phone on me though.
I have more issues with my bluetooth mouse connected to my laptop
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I've read a few threads were the Z5 was having trouble connecting to bluetooth in people's cars etc but I think my issue is with the headset because it doesn't actually work with any other phone either
I have a z1 compact, and I've always had bt issues with it across devices. I have a z5 compact arriving tomorrow, reading this isn't inspiring.
I use a sbh52, and it never quite worked right with sony, but I think that was mostly due to the data channel stuff and how it interacted with the app for email alerts and other socket stuff that uses raw serial protocols to communicate. I've at times had 4-5 different serial devices attached to the phone, and none of them are happy when doing so. The radio seems to become selective about who is actually working at a time, but the upstream consumers at the bluez socket layer seem unaware stuff isn't working.
I got a non-sony phone, a sharp aquos, and using it with my sbh52 without any sony software, and only that - it rocks actually, range and all. I felt a little bit bad I used to talk so much crap about it.
My biggest telltale of bluetooth serial dysfunction with my z1c was my google glass, which works entirely as both a persistent tethered device via bt, and a headset device. Data for glass via bt also refused to work if I disabled the headset kindly, so in other words bluetooth dysfunction ruined usability when mobile. Now I tether my glass to my tablet data that does no other bt, and seems to work pretty dandy.
It seems more of a bluetooth stack issue as a whole, either between google and/or firmware vendors, and if my z5 gives me issues too, I'll just need to find a more "dumb" headset.
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I started watching catlog (log reader) when using my glass and headset troubleshooting, and would suggest doing so too.
I would always see "innocuous" looking messages about the bt, but nothing seemed to ever really "break". I'd see disconnects and reconnects, when one device or the other wouldn't/couldn't connect, seemed at the radio level though as the headset would just give up trying to connect.
Happened the same to me too. Xperia z5c+sbh80. The audio is kinda lagging whenever I put in my pocket. But, I have read somewhere in xda post that somebody claimed it might related with stamina mode configuration (solution given: put audio setting into exception list) and it might related to activity on the fingerprint scanner as well (really? solution given: try to avoid any contact on the fingerprint scanner because z5c try to initiate vibration mode while the audio is still playing). I have try both solutions, and yeah, there are little bit less lagging activity.
I'm using Sony SBH-80 as well, and it works perfect. I'm listening about 2-3h music/day, loads of calls through SBH80, and it works fine. Indeed, sometimes it disconnects automatically (usually when I'm using facebook call and I receive an email or something like that). On my S6 dual sim didn't happened that, but I can live with that. Sorry guys to hear that you have issues with that, on my side it's fine.
Late reply guys sorry.
mbutash said:
I have a z1 compact, and I've always had bt issues with it across devices. I have a z5 compact arriving tomorrow, reading this isn't inspiring. .
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So does the Z5 compact work with your headset then? They seem to release cool devices, update to a later version of android, it ends up not working properly and they pretty much just forget about it.
hazeem89 said:
Happened the same to me too. Xperia z5c+sbh80. The audio is kinda lagging whenever I put in my pocket. But, I have read somewhere in xda post that somebody claimed it might related with stamina mode configuration (solution given: put audio setting into exception list) and it might related to activity on the fingerprint scanner as well (really? solution given: try to avoid any contact on the fingerprint scanner because z5c try to initiate vibration mode while the audio is still playing). I have try both solutions, and yeah, there are little bit less lagging activity.
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I don't have stamina mode on (reduces performaces WAY too much... like 5 seconds to open an app...unacceptable) but yeah I too have notices weird distortion effects when I receive a facebook message.
ady_uaic said:
I'm using Sony SBH-80 as well, and it works perfect. I'm listening about 2-3h music/day, loads of calls through SBH80, and it works fine. Indeed, sometimes it disconnects automatically (usually when I'm using facebook call and I receive an email or something like that). On my S6 dual sim didn't happened that, but I can live with that. Sorry guys to hear that you have issues with that, on my side it's fine.
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Ah lucky you! I guess I'll wait for my replacement and see what's up :fingers-crossed:
theprince1991 said:
Late reply guys sorry.
So does the Z5 compact work with your headset then? They seem to release cool devices, update to a later version of android, it ends up not working properly and they pretty much just forget about it.
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Yes! My SBH52 was absolute crap with my z1c (random disconnects, sound levels, just never connecting), with a Sony original rom, Cyanogen10-11, any kernel/rom I tried. With my z5c, my SBH52 works dandy, even with the sony app installed for the data link, as well as my SBH60's that came with the z5c as a Clove special. Need to resurrect my jawbone, everyone hated it I spoke to prior, now I'm curious about it too.
Oddly, my friend just upgraded too, didn't want to spend the extra for a z5c, so got a used z3c instead, and has a lot of issues with his bluetooth as well. Mine was more disconnections, devices fighting over connections, but his seems to be just simple horrible quality, like noise entering in when used, so not sure if it's bad software or bad phy bt chip or a bunk build.prop on it. Sound always required a lot of tweaking on my z1c, it was useless without root and hacking to fix the crap sony rom build or a *good* 3rd party rom, so maybe it as well.
Range-wise, I've used the SBH52's with my phone upstairs on my desk, and walking downstairs about 30 feet away and through a hall/wall. The SBH60 has much less range I've found, 20 feet away and down the hall same level codec sound comes unglued.
theprince1991 said:
I don't have stamina mode on (reduces performaces WAY too much... like 5 seconds to open an app...unacceptable) but yeah I too have notices weird distortion effects when I receive a facebook message.
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I don't ever use stamina modes... My battery life is/was always crap on my z1c (~6-8hr), as I collect a bunch of push imap accounts with aquamail, multiple gmail accounts, lots of system level apps, so it's almost expected my battery life to be nil. I've been a bit more pleasantly surprised with the z5c with most everything from my z1c loaded (~10-15hr), the battery life is still better, but the z1c was also ~3yr old with original battery.
theprince1991 said:
Ah lucky you! I guess I'll wait for my replacement and see what's up :fingers-crossed:
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They *did* have the whole headphone connection issue on the z3c, really don't know how much of those sorts of things come down to maybe bad connectors internally. Doesn't seem to matter if you're apple or sony, us or china, sh*t happens.
My only impetus for upgrade was I noticed I had some discoloration on my z1c lcd, and my phone now had a noticeable curve in the middle (think lg flex) after apparently sitting on it the wrong way, so replacing it before it just died was key. So far I'm happier with the z5c. as thus far "everything works", including sound levels that were always an issue with the z1c too (bad Sony), and especially bluetooth function. The fingerprint reader unlock convenience is awesome, and I'm looking forward to trying payments with it. I came across the z5 drm restore now, so it's rooting time, and it's going to get even better once I can remove nauseating ads with an adblock means, and using xprivacy again since since disables app privacy (gee, thanks big brother).